The reality is 99.9% members can never rank up with the new merit system.

[jpespa]

Well even I am getting envious of other members here receiving such merits BUT the fact that many members especially the Jr.members ranking up shows that the new system really effective.

Other members here who are just complaining about anything are obviously part of the 99.9% that may never rank up because of what they are doing. While they are just ranting and complaining about this system, other members are already leaving them behind because these people are trying to improve how they post instead of sulking about the system.

The new system is challenging but effective even I am trying to improve my post in response to every topic that I see. The only "small issue" that I observed is about the quality posts that are being overlooked or being ignored and other members who just ignores the system.

I just hope that all the members here will cooperate with everyone to make this forum become resourceful, productive, and successful.

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[sparg]

I'm just one average user here.

Right, but just looking at your post here, your command of the English language seems to be above average.  Most users at your level crank out shitposts exclusively, and the reason why they're shitposts is precisely because they don't speak English.  So I'm sure if you put just a little thought and effort into your posts, they'd be worth reading. 

But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post.  I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times.  And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing.  I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up.  But I'm patient.

So basically, in your opinion, the merit sistem is just a way to grade users english skills. Dude you are a teacher or a crypto enthusiast?
Even so, i`v read that there are merit sources in every language subforum but apparently the one in Romanian sub think that there isnt any posts that deserve to be merited. And in this case you cant play the broken language card.

[romanovst]

Well even I am getting envious of other members here receiving such merits BUT the fact that many members especially the Jr.members ranking up shows that the new system really effective.

It is easier for a Jr Member to become a member because of two reasons:

1) They need only 10 points which can achieved with just 2-3 extremely well written posts.

2) Most of the senior members are giving preference to these members. You can see threads where members offered giveaways for new members only.

[longlivecapitalism]

For people like me who would like to go from Member to Full Member, it's virtually impossible. And that "make better posts" line they're feeding us is bullshit (pardon my french). I'd need a lifetime of good posts to achieve that because even when people make good posts, that doesn't guarantee that a member with sMerits will see them or that they will be willing to give them their points.

[hilariousetc]

I'm just one average user here.

Right, but just looking at your post here, your command of the English language seems to be above average.  Most users at your level crank out shitposts exclusively, and the reason why they're shitposts is precisely because they don't speak English.  So I'm sure if you put just a little thought and effort into your posts, they'd be worth reading. 

But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post.  I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times.  And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing.  I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up.  But I'm patient.

So basically, in your opinion, the merit sistem is just a way to grade users english skills. Dude you are a teacher or a crypto enthusiast?
Even so, i`v read that there are merit sources in every language subforum but apparently the one in Romanian sub think that there isnt any posts that deserve to be merited. And in this case you cant play the broken language card.

No, it's a way to grade quality posts that contribute something and for people just making lazy shitposts will fall by the wayside. Someone who can't speak English very well isn't going to be making great coherent posts and this is the reason why the forum became such a shitshow because it was swarmed by thousands of people who A) Can't speak English very well if at all, and B) Know little to nothing about bitcoin and are only here to earn, and those two factors are a recipe for disaster.

[mmhaimhai]

If we are all just discipline enough to post quality messages and avoid spamming just for the sake of activity count or reaching weekly quota for a sig camp then moderators won't need to implement such rule like merit system. Maybe they just get tired reviewing all post and delete shits around and banned members. When there are DTs who gives time giving neg trust and tagging spammers, there also been lots of complaints. If you have something you think more efficient than merit system why not suggest it?.

[mobilazy]

But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post.  I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times.  And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing.  I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up.  But I'm patient.

They simply could post in one of the local topics. This forum covers all the major languages. I write in English section with Grammarly extension turned on, which doesn't make my English good of course. But at least it can find some annoying typos and spelling errors. I see your point and think that laziness is the main reason here.

[Decoded]

Good? More than 99.9% of the community are spammers, shills or downright spastics who don't understand how Bitcoin works. Even a couple of high-profile people on bitcointalk. Idiots everywhere.

[lvincent]

For me the legitimacy framework works it trained the general population in this discussion it enables many individuals here to figure out how to compose a post that has quality so they won't simply present since they require to achieve their quota for their campaign and individuals here will going to begin valuing those post here that has the quality by giving them some merit despite the fact that it is a significant change I consider all us here can receive on this sort of framework

[sparg]

I like that most of you criticize all this shitspammers and i like the one whos says that 99 % of the forum is users who spam but at the same time you have sigs with advertise.
Do you know how advertise works?
The only reason some companies whant to promote theyr project here is because there is traffic.(the shitspammers included)
If 99% of the forum dissapears, companies will loose interest in this forum and will look for another way to promote theyr product.
And dont be hypocritical and say that you are here only to "bring something new to to bitcoin worl" as most of the ass kissers say because we all are in this game for the money. Otherwise start a charity organisation and look donate all the money there.

I dont want to be undestood wrong. I`m not in favor of spamming and i hate spam. If you see my post you could see that even before merits came i was promoting quality posts because i grew tired of people posting without even reading the OP post.
But i am disgust of people who ar againts those who whant to make a dolar and themself have the signature enroled in a campaign.

While the campaign managers will not take theyr job serious and only count posts that matters nothing will change.

[lucario21]

The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks  
  

Your Subject title was annoying, really 99.9% can you proved that? If you want to hear our thought with the new system maybe you should change the title first with subjective approach.

If your concern are those quality post that will not be recognized I think in marketplace there was a thread where they given a merit to those informative post just give them the link and they check it.

The objective of new system was for the benefit also of our members, it builds them to interact with more informative way, they might took a research first before they reply to the topic and with exchanging of informations all the members will gain on it.

[TheBeardedBaby]

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I understand what you say but I disagree. In the beginning I came here find a way to get some satoshi from faucets, to play some dice and sh!t. But hey, things have changed. I was more and more interested to understand how actually blockchain works and what this thing - bitcoin was. Then I went deeper and I started a Blockchain course on edx.
I was mining bitcoin back in 2013 just for to test it, but I had no idea what I was doing that time.

I don't care anymore if there will be any sig campaign or bounty here. Yeah, collecting some coins it is fun and somehow exiting but this is not the only point I'm here. Not anymore. I'm here because I want to be the part of making the future, because blockchain technology is the future,it has many applications and many ways to develop. Now are the "dark ages" abusing the technology for profit/scamming/stealing but sooner or later the things will change. We are in the very begging and if I can be part of it and help with what I can I will be happy.

[bobrova]

I like that most of you criticize all this shitspammers and i like the one whos says that 99 % of the forum is users who spam but at the same time you have sigs with advertise.
Do you know how advertise works?

I agree to this. There is no problem in being here for signature campaign as long as you are following the forum rules. Some people try to say that they are not interested in these but still keep applying in different campaigns. It looks funny.

[MKH]

The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks  

Lets come out form the forum and Think abut real life.

1.Think that your are an employ in a company. If you do not give your best service then why would they give you promotion to Higher rank?Likewise, if you do not post good quality and not work for peoples help, why would they rank you up?

2.Do everyone in the compay that you employ, do not even respect you, do not notice you, because of this, is your work or you, anyone stoped? No you are not. Similarly there is no need to think that you are not noticed by every one. you will get your receipt, just work hard.

3.Think you have done a good job, will every one in your company congrats or best wishes you for this? No,,, ther will be some who do not heade and gamble for this. There are a just few members here who will not want to encourage you in this work and many will have.


It is entirely my opinion, don't take it if you don't aggre.


Advance sorry for my bad english.

[lenovo16]

I'm just one average user here.

Right, but just looking at your post here, your command of the English language seems to be above average.  Most users at your level crank out shitposts exclusively, and the reason why they're shitposts is precisely because they don't speak English.  So I'm sure if you put just a little thought and effort into your posts, they'd be worth reading. 

But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post.  I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times.  And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing.  I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up.  But I'm patient.

So basically, in your opinion, the merit sistem is just a way to grade users english skills. Dude you are a teacher or a crypto enthusiast?
Even so, i`v read that there are merit sources in every language subforum but apparently the one in Romanian sub think that there isnt any posts that deserve to be merited. And in this case you cant play the broken language card.

No, it's a way to grade quality posts that contribute something and for people just making lazy shitposts will fall by the wayside. Someone who can't speak English very well isn't going to be making great coherent posts and this is the reason why the forum became such a shitshow because it was swarmed by thousands of people who A) Can't speak English very well if at all, and B) Know little to nothing about bitcoin and are only here to earn, and those two factors are a recipe for disaster.

So in other words, this merit system is not only to grade some quality post but also screen those people who can be promoted. Because only people who reach the number of designated merit was can be promoted. And I think its a good idea because only those who really contribute in the forum has a right to be promoted.

[Pancheng]

No, especially if we don't have any weekly event that we can earn and claim merits, and most likely there are 5-10% individuals who get negative trust because they are circulating their merits within their group, like workers, schoolmates, and group chats in FB haha.

I'm stuck with my rank because don't have someone to give merits to me and I don't want red mark because of begging, funny but some already started trying.

[hd49728]

I would like to choose both happy and sad.
1. Happy because merit system has motivated users to be more energetic, more constructive, in particular newcomers have tried composing higher quality posts, helping others. On the other hand, higher ranked users found them useful in terms of giving newcomers hints, links, documents to learn, advices to improve their knowledge, skills, etc. It is two-way interaction between them.
2. Sad mainly because merit abusements seem to be occured and discovered day by day, including merit trading, merit exchanging, etc. We can easily found low-quality or even one-line posts which received 20, 30, or 50 merits from one specific sender. It destroys the original objectives of merit system.

To conclude, I highly appreciate what Theymos have done to launch merit system and strongly believe in the system that it will help to clean up and build up the forum as better place for Bitcoin/Altcoins discussions.

Newcomers will definitely rank up if they spend more time to read, to learn, to share, to help each other. The more time they spend for each post, the higher (in most cases) quality post will get; which in turn increase writers' internal quality day by day. For long-term improvement like this, those ones will have more chances to earn merits from other users. Most importantly, don't be here simply for getting merits, for ranking up, and getting free money fastly; instead be here for those purposes mentioned above. Of course, newcomers can join campaigns and get rewards as bonuses, not as their main purpose to be here.

Good luck and rank up with continuous, high qualities, constructive threads.

[Toughit]

Just an update to the non-believers in the merit system. From 27 Jan til today, 13 Feb I got 51 Merit points and I'm just one average user here.So tell me again that it is not possible to rank-up. I still have 14 days to reach the needed activity points for Full Member and the missing 39 merits but I think it won't be a problem at all. I'll be very proud to rank-up because I have earn it this time. Now there is a new meaning in the ranking-up process, everyone could spam in the off topic section and rank-up with just activity, now game has changed and the feeling is great. Goodbye shitposters.
WYGIWYD

At least 47 of your received merit came from posts that have the word merit in the title  (yah, me to...)

It does not seem in the spirit of merit to be rewarded for discussing the problems of merit.

If you had 51 merit points in that time period from discussing Bit (or alt) coin topics, then I would be impressed.

[t3hpwnographer]

Just an update to the non-believers in the merit system. From 27 Jan til today, 13 Feb I got 51 Merit points and I'm just one average user here.So tell me again that it is not possible to rank-up. I still have 14 days to reach the needed activity points for Full Member and the missing 39 merits but I think it won't be a problem at all. I'll be very proud to rank-up because I have earn it this time. Now there is a new meaning in the ranking-up process, everyone could spam in the off topic section and rank-up with just activity, now game has changed and the feeling is great. Goodbye shitposters.
WYGIWYD

At least 47 of your received merit came from posts that have the word merit in the title  (yah, me to...)

It does not seem in the spirit of merit to be rewarded for discussing the problems of merit.

If you had 51 merit points in that time period from discussing Bit (or alt) coin topics, then I would be impressed.

From what I've seen, meta is the only forum where people are willing to give out merit. No one in the altcoin forums is willing to use it. I've made numerous posts that have gotten "thank you" replies, but no one has clicked the button yet. Then I come in here and I see people giving it out left and right just for sharing an opinion or being well known.

I dunno, I'm just extra salty because the system was put in to place like a week before I was supposed to rank up to full member so now I've got a lot more work to do to get there. Just need to find the right places to post I guess.

[krishnaverma]

From what I've seen, meta is the only forum where people are willing to give out merit. No one in the altcoin forums is willing to use it. I've made numerous posts that have gotten "thank you" replies, but no one has clicked the button yet. Then I come in here and I see people giving it out left and right just for sharing an opinion or being well known.

If you have observed this, then simple post quality posts in meta. All sections need quality content here. Also, there are a lot of users asking questions about the merit system. So, you should learn the latest developments related to merit system and update other members.