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April 08, 2018, 02:53:36 PM
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I don't think that the sources are the merit whales. Theymos wanted to use trusted members, rather than merit hunters. The initial sMerits must be used up fairly soon, so it will be good posters and sources that will be awarding the merits. Well that's the theory as I see it.

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April 08, 2018, 04:34:32 PM
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The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks Smiley  
  

This is true even we are posted a constructive posts our posts  will ignore in other user's they don't have an attention about merit system but don't worry thier is a lot of people in this forum we will not surrender we will keep on posting 😊
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I fall under the bad category as you mentioned in OP. I have made some good post but haven't received merit and I will not give up I will make some useful post on speculation coz I like speculation. One more ugly thing I have observed lot of ranked members exchange merit with their friends only I am not blaming them for that coz sometimes their friends makes good post and sometimes they get merit from their friends for shitpost which I feel wrong.  There some members like hugeblack, bill gator, baao, addeqt, iasenko, stingers and Vlad are doing great to provide the platform for merit for people's who fall under bad category. Also I like Joe's signature less challenge will take part in that challenge once I complete my current campaign not for merit I feel through Joe's signature less challenge I will learn lot of things.
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April 09, 2018, 12:24:52 AM
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I finally ranked up to become a member so that's good. But the next step is 100 so that's gonna take a while... It took me 3 months to get 10, so 90 more might take 27 months. However, I do think the more established you become, the more easily you earn merit.
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This is true even we are posted a constructive posts our posts  
But if you write like this ^^^ you haven't "posted a constructive post".  You've posted a bunch of garbled-English nonsense that's been written 1000 times before and which no one wants to read.  There's so much wrong, structurally, linguistically, grammatically, with what you wrote that it smacks of SE Asian shitposting.  No offense intended because of where you live, but that section of the world has earned a notorious reputation on bitcointalk.

In addition, if you post like this in mega spam threads, you are absolutely guaranteed not to earn merit.  Those kinds of threads are par for the course in Bitcoin Discussion and Economics because it's so easy for shitposters to slip through the cracks.  All the posts look the same, say the same thing, and it's uninteresting.

We must post a constructive post
We must post a constructive post.
On and on and on.

Let me give you a tip:  When you're speaking about things in general, and not about a specific group you're in, don't use "WE" so much.  I see this overused by people who can't write proper English, and it's driving me insane.

When you combine that with garbage like what you wrote, it's much, much worse.  I don't expect you to comprehend my tip, but perhaps some other would-be merit earner will.  It's on the house.

It is hard since most of the merit source in the forum don't care about giving merits, I've seen a lot of quality post out there but does'nt given merit points, There should be a consequence also to those who hold merit(s)
Whaaa?  Merit sources applied to be such because they do care about giving merits.  The problem from your perspective is that you're not earning them, and that reflects more on you than it does on the merit sources.  Why does nobody clean their own house first?

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April 09, 2018, 01:02:29 AM
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It is hard since most of the merit source in the forum don't care about giving merits, I've seen a lot of quality post out there but does'nt given merit points, There should be a consequence also to those who hold merit(s)

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April 09, 2018, 01:45:31 AM
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We must post a constructive post
We must post a constructive post.
On and on and on.

Let me give you a tip:  When you're speaking about things in general, and not about a specific group you're in, don't use "WE" so much.  I see this overused by people who can't write proper English, and it's driving me insane.

When you combine that with garbage like what you wrote, it's much, much worse.  I don't expect you to comprehend my tip, but perhaps some other would-be merit earner will.  It's on the house.
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Thank you very much, The Pharmacist.
Writers should not use we when want to express ideas about their own experiences. I am non-native English-speaker, so I highly appreciate your tip.

Sometimes, I also see writers use Sir. in their threads. The word should not be over-used, which might lead to the 'real' launch "Politeness point" in the future. Just kidding.
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April 09, 2018, 02:33:09 AM
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I joined the forum on July 14, 2017, and I have not received any merit yet, but I do not think it is unworthy, depending on your contribution they will give you merit, and I'm not worthy enough.
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April 09, 2018, 02:52:29 AM
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Thank you very much, The Pharmacist.
Writers should not use we when want to express ideas about their own experiences. I am non-native English-speaker, so I highly appreciate your tip.
No problem.  I'm glad you at least read my post and took a suggestion, which is more than the average bitcointalk member is willing to do.  I don't usually give tips on writing better English, as the ROI for doing so seems ridiculously low here.  And at least you didn't call me sir, which is another pet peeve that you seem to have picked up on. 

Some of these threads for signature campaigns are funny (almost) to read, because so much ass is kissed that there has to be some cold sores forming somewhere.

The two salient points of this are that 1) you CAN earn merit and rank up, but a lot of people haven't figured out what it takes yet, and 2) the whole reason merits were put into place was to curb the shitposting/account farming/whatever problem, which the old system nurtured.  Now it's much harder to rank up, and the goal here IS to discourage people from just posting nonsense.  They haven't quite stopped yet, but in time they'll learn.  *I hope*.


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April 09, 2018, 07:26:09 AM
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I think that merit system is quite difficult to others but for me merit sytem is quite challenging it make you more challege to post constructive and more high quality post. The harder you work to gain for merits the better to do your very best. That's why i will do my best to gain those merits so that i will rank up to member up to legendary. good luck to all like me who wants to rank up. godbless
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April 09, 2018, 07:51:11 AM
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I think that merit system is quite difficult to others but for me merit sytem is quite challenging it make you more challege to post constructive and more high quality post. The harder you work to gain for merits the better to do your very best. That's why i will do my best to gain those merits so that i will rank up to member up to legendary. good luck to all like me who wants to rank up. godbless

Lol.
I think that the real challenge is your desire to spam challenge you to stop your habit, and start spending more time to compose your threads.
However, spending more time won't lead to higher quality threads, because the quality mainly depends on your knowledge on crypto world, your experience in the crypto ecosystem, your English proficiency, and more.
Challenge yourself to spend more time to learn, to Sharon's your English skills, in particular reading (to understand what others wrote) and writing (to express your ideas clearly, easy to understand to make it's understandable). Spend your time to do it, and don't pay attention to merit system.
Human are the most valuable resources in he world, not merits, not Bitcoin, not Altcoins; so you should improve yourself first. Eventually, you will be better, more knowledgeable; and merit system will not be your matter at all.

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April 09, 2018, 12:55:11 PM
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I think that merit system is quite difficult to others but for me merit sytem is quite challenging it make you more challege to post constructive and more high quality post. The harder you work to gain for merits the better to do your very best. That's why i will do my best to gain those merits so that i will rank up to member up to legendary. good luck to all like me who wants to rank up. godbless


It should be seen as a challenge or we should not try to push for it. Just make relevant posts and you will get some merits for sure. Also, do not expect instant results. I keep getting merits for some posts I made months back and I am sure this happens to other users also.
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To merit or not to merit? That is the question. Wink
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April 10, 2018, 01:01:12 PM
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The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks Smiley  
  

wow intelligent observation i proposed the development of a new forum quite a while ago, i have to beacen this like a pulsar till enough people get conscious about it.

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I don't know what you implied? "can"?. The general quality of threads rose due to merit system, I agree.
the number of users that can post with qualities are now increasing.

Merit system is a barrier for account farmers, not for ranking requirements. In fact, merit system related to new ranking system (which has new rules due to the launch of merit system). I am not sure you mis-expressed your ideas due to language or due to misunderstood the merit system.
Merits will not be a hindrance anymore for the ranking requirements,

Only constructive users can rank up, not all.
it will only take sometime for the new members to Rank Up.
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I've gone from brand new to Junior member in 14 days, and, much to my surprise, I've got enough merit to become a member in 4 weeks time. I didn't expect this account to earn any merit, and I certainly didn't chase it. I think it shows that if you are prepared to put the interests of the forum and its members first, then the forum will reward you by increasing your rank. Polluting the boards in a desperate hunt for merit and bounty payments is not the way to move ahead.

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I've gone from brand new to Junior member in 14 days, and, much to my surprise, I've got enough merit to become a member in 4 weeks time. I didn't expect this account to earn any merit, and I certainly didn't chase it. I think it shows that if you are prepared to put the interests of the forum and its members first, then the forum will reward you by increasing your rank. Polluting the boards in a desperate hunt for merit and bounty payments is not the way to move ahead.
Agree with you guy! Be helpful, just be helpful, don't pretend to be helpful, merits will come naturally. How to be helpful? Learning more, reading more, sharpening English skills.
Begging for merits will almost lead to nothing, no merit at all.
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I'm generally happy with systems that help make this forum a better place by limiting spam posting, scamming, etc. I've been around for a while so am not in a position to have to earn my way up by collecting merits.

I am a bit concerned about the limited ways there are to get s-merits. It seems the merit sources and the folks who collect a lot of merit points would be the merit whales on this forum, and that over time, people wanting to rank up will post with those whales in mind, rather than simply focusing on quality. Also, there is a certain aspect of this that depends on your ability to promote yourself, not just write quality posts. I don't know if there is a way to kind of equalize that. I think it's great to reward high quality posts, but the ability to write those posts and promote them so that the right forum members may notice them are two different skill sets.

No, you're generally a copy-pasta spammer. Get lost.

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April 13, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
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Going up in rank is now only for those elite who are already in a higher rank. the rookie and those in the unqualified merbro rank will never rise in rank that's the truth. You can see that those who advocates merit are those who do not need it anymore because they will get merit from one another.
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Going up in rank is now only for those elite who are already in a higher rank. the rookie and those in the unqualified merbro rank will never rise in rank that's the truth. You can see that those who advocates merit are those who do not need it anymore because they will get merit from one another.

I think you need to reread that. You are saying that the only members who will be able to increase in rank are the Legendaries.

This post is typical of those who fail to blame themselves for failing to earn any merit.

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