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November 20, 2013, 09:06:15 AM
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also been told i will be getting nothing back. i have already contacted lawyers in australia about building a case, legal action appears the only resort we have.

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November 20, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
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I'm also in Australia, please keep me informed or post in the thread if anything happens.

My deposit wasn't huge but it's enough to hurt now I don't have it.

I've even emailed TF with a sob story about my current situation and he doesn't even have the decency to reply.  If he would update the forums more often he wouldn't be inundated with so many emails so he would have more time to respond to the one's he gets.

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November 20, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
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For people who are interested in how the 100% fiat settlement is calculated, here's a worked example:

Deposit 10 BTC on Sep 29th, considered $1430 deposited
Withdraw 1 BTC on Oct 2nd, considered $127 withdrawn
Deposit 1 BTC on Oct 16th, considered $154 deposited

Added together: 1430-127+154=$1457

The $1457 figure would be your re-denominated balance if you choose to accept, which is ~100% of the fiat value. Payment would be made in BTC using the latest MtGox ask.

TradeFortress offered me the rate of $750 (price was $620 at the time) for the fiat settlement. I offered latest MtGox ask, didn't recieve any response yet.

Did anyone of you used the settlement option after the price fallen from $750? What was your BTC/USD rate?
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November 20, 2013, 11:36:19 AM
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btc is now 400+,keek on down  ,see how this man will do,haha
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November 20, 2013, 12:12:45 PM
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Hi TF:
I have sent email to you.
Reply pls.
thx

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November 20, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
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btc is now 400+,keek on down  ,see how this man will do,haha

Does not matter in this case.
TF defines "latest Mt. Gox. ask" as >= $750/BTC.
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November 20, 2013, 12:48:35 PM
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These USD value rules seem to vary. It was ok at $750 but now it's come down he doesn't want to make a deal. Disgraceful.
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November 20, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
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Third email I've sent him. Let's see if he even dares to reply now. So far, I think it's been pretty obvious he has been trying to work out the situation to the best of his interests and while it does make me think he did get hacked (He already had 4100 BTC from our money, he could just have claimed more or just said everything was lost and then disappeared if it was a scam?  Huh ) it's also obvious he wants to scratch this off as a profit with the way he's managing the so-called settlements.

Again, I'll make a reply as soon as I get any response from him.

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November 20, 2013, 01:00:05 PM
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These USD value rules seem to vary. It was ok at $750 but now it's come down he doesn't want to make a deal. Disgraceful.

He probably want to wait for price to come back up, so it is more legitimate to offer $750/BTC.
Right now that's +55% Mt. Gox ask...
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November 20, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
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also been told i will be getting nothing back. i have already contacted lawyers in australia about building a case, legal action appears the only resort we have.

Someone told me today they are trying to find out the real identity of TF and this people have big contacts.
Also still waiting for TF to return my 76 BTC in CL and it's ridiculous.

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November 20, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
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These USD value rules seem to vary. It was ok at $750 but now it's come down he doesn't want to make a deal. Disgraceful.

now deal is already done and completed now rate going down badly hope TF already have all exchanges in his account
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November 20, 2013, 02:06:26 PM
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Hi all,

I am surprised that more people have not lodged complaints against his trust score.
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November 20, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
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Hi all,

I am surprised that more people have not lodged complaints against his trust score.

yes because its fact he can start a new id and again have some trust and new work 
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November 20, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
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Hi all,

I am surprised that more people have not lodged complaints against his trust score.

Many argue he's paid theymos to maintain such a trust level.
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November 20, 2013, 02:48:12 PM
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I am surprised that more people have not lodged complaints against his trust score.

Won't do any good.  TF is on the default trust list through inheritance.
Very few members on the default trust list have given him negative rating over this incident.
Most of our ratings of him will have no impact since we are not trusted by someone on the default trust list.

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November 20, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
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Hi all,

I am surprised that more people have not lodged complaints against his trust score.

Many argue he's paid theymos to maintain such a trust level.
Very likely he has blackmailed or paid him or something along those lines.
Someone who is used to "pentest without authorization" suddenly gets a positive feedback from site admin for "responsibly disclosing security vulnerabilities"? Yeah, sure.
"Give me positive feedback or I'll hack your forum" is more likely, and more in-line with the profile.

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November 20, 2013, 02:57:55 PM
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The trust rating issue has been fixed, it seems. Now he rightfully has a trust rating of -168. I don't think I've ever seen someone with such a low trust rating on the forums before, and certainly not without a SCAMMER title. Not that it would do much good right now, anyway...

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November 20, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
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So much bullshit, FML

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November 20, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
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Since you held your account, yes. Arbitrarily deciding a cut off date.. is arbitrarily.

Question, this is all fine for CL account holders, but I don't have a balance in my CL account. My funds are still tied in the BTCINVEST shares; any word for how that's going to be resolved? I've sent an email, but haven't heard back in a couple weeks.
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November 20, 2013, 08:28:06 PM
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At the end of the day, "shouting" just creates noise.
For what its worth, lets keep a sound mind gentlemen...

Keep a sound mind about what?  That some of us are being told to go fuck ourselves by TradeFortress without so much as an apology?  We knew this could happen going into it, but that doesn't mean we have to be happy about scammers doing their scamming when they do it.  I've had my own personal rant and moved on and made my peace.  All I can hope for now is for some justice someday.  I care about that much more than a few coins.
Watching the market spike at $900 & having negative BTC left me in a state of  despair. Having waited so long for that moment only to be a by stander versus a trader. I feel you brother, I am in the same boat as you.

I wrote that "in the moment" but its like this, a sound & clear mind with a focused discussion hopefully leading up to viable plans of actions. I believe these actions would best be spent in "supporting" TF to make the best decisions (ie: reclaim lent money, sell off of assets,organization etc). Let me be understood, I believe this thread is still in good health, I know that it could be much more bitter & malevolent. I sure most of us have this thread here on watch but its a good example of productive and out of the box approach by organizing everything. Not sure I agree on the legal action.

I think what I meant by a sound mind But one could make the analogy of a pilot that has lost control of a plane. It would be in everyone's best interest to not storm the cockpit and completely inundate the pilot with request, threats & general panic. A sound & clear mind would allow us optimal probability of survival.
**disclaimer: I do believe the majority of the posts in here are mature & the discussion in general is healthy. perhaps this post is small talk then.

We Assessed that the plane is crashing & death could be imminent, we start to form a Plan of action which is the best solution for the best outcome. This could be supporting the pilot so that he can do his job & then weImplement these plans of action. versus cultivating a noisy / threatening environment (suing a 20 year old guy that probably does not have any offline assets available to settle a lawsuit).

I may be going out on a limb by saying all this (especially with my weak analogy) but I know, I know we are dealing with peoples money here & shi* gets intense, real quick. Again, going out on a limb, I do not believe that TF is a scammer, I dont buy it. I do believe that in the momentum of it all, he slipped up and was immediately exploited thus we all are suffering the ill effects of any carelessness. Even if you think that TF is a scammer. Still the clear mind & focused discussion leading to an effort may have the most beneficial approach (again, the majority seems to be well focused). Call me naive, call me desensitized & numb from it all, call it what you want. But I do know that in a "Disaster response" situation, we all have to filter & not contribute to any noisy artifacts...in essence drama. Perhaps, Ill vouch and say that getting the Fed involved and taking this guy to court is an artifact, a tough guy mentality that is a dispense of energy. Maybe I will be proved wrong, maybe the community is stronger offline then i think but I feel this will only complicate matters. this post ran on longer then intended. im trying to bring my own self back to earth after all this and think outside the box.
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