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January 15, 2025, 10:47:16 AM
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Spot market inefficiency is really showing lately; lack of active arbitrageurs has somehow led I0Coin's price on the Stellar platform to be about four times the price of IXCoin while at the same time over at FreiExchange IXCoin's price is about twice the price of I0Coin!

An arbitrage opportunity for some intrepid soul, maybe?


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It is far too complicated to have any arbitrage between Freiexchange and the Stellar platform due to having to first tokenise i0coins or ixcoins to allow trading on the Stellar platform and then not being able to simply withdraw either ixcoin or lumens (XLM) from there to Freiexchange.

The smartest option for both the ixcoin and i0coin community or any devs about is to petition Freiexchange to have a Lumens (XLM) market for both i0coin and ixcoin on their exchange.

In fact this could actually be the best thing ever to happen to both coins to solve the liquidity and trading volume issues that having only an obscure exchange to trade on has caused.


That is my proposal.



Emphasis on the point of having an XLM pairing on Freiexchange^





That's a super idea cornhodlr. I have tried using their helpdesk on the site with the addcoin option on the dropdown menu but once I fill out the form and hit send it just goes to cloudflare and says I am banned for some reason. Not sure why because I am not using any vpn or tor so maybe theres a problem with the site.

If anyone has a contact email for them I will try again later.
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January 15, 2025, 10:54:18 AM
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Note to bystanders: the above quote is from I0Coin's ANNounce thread, I responded to it over there.


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Good call sir! I think both the ixcoin and i0coin community are one and the same although both individual unique separate coins of course. Maybe we should merge threads or something?

On another note I was wondering if ixc or i0c ISO 20022 compliant and if not should or could this be something to look at implementing?
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February 12, 2025, 11:39:58 PM
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Hi, where can the official wallet be downloaded from please? Thanks.
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February 13, 2025, 12:53:43 AM
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Hi, where can the official wallet be downloaded from please? Thanks.

Hello. You can download the wallet here: https://github.com/IXCore/IXCoin/releases/tag/v0.14.1
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Discord?
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Hi, where can the official wallet be downloaded from please? Thanks.

Hello. You can download the wallet here: https://github.com/IXCore/IXCoin/releases/tag/v0.14.1


Thanks indeed, much obliged.
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Discord?

No Discord, yet.
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February 16, 2025, 02:43:02 PM
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It's getting much harder to buy ixcoin by simply placing an order on the exchange because it seems the price just keeps stepping up beyond your price target like theres a bot trading it or has anyone had an order filled recently?

Has anyone coins on Cryptopia and any idea if they will ever be returned to anyone who made a claim? Theres probably people who had ixcoins there and forgot about them because they got some bitcoin back or never had bitcoin there but they would regret it if ixcoin mooned some day in the future because it literally is bitcoin apart from the fact that is fully mined already anc doesn't have the sword of Damocles hanging over it like bitcoins satoshi wallet with over 1 million coins that could be dumped.
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February 16, 2025, 06:17:22 PM
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Which exchange?

Stellar has  lot it seems of arbitrage bots watching for chances to use Lumens to buy something with which to buy something else with which to buy something else to then sell for more Lumens than they started with, so if you are talking about Stellar that could be what you are seeing, also on Stellar we have "Kelp" free open source bot that they provide doing market-making on all the Galactic Milieu currencies on Stellar.

If on FreiExchange though I don't think there are any bots there.

It can be hard to buy simply because price is so insnely low right now, especially compared to calculated value based on treasuries; the only reason any at all are anywhere close to such low prices is market-makers getting them even cheaper when folks "dump" onto their buy offers.

Some of the market-makers offer the cheap coins they get that way back on sale with an ascending column of sell offers starting not too horribly far above the highest buy offer to lure people upward, since they make a profit anyway some prefer not to make buyers go all the way up in one bite to the actual calculated value.

For one thing that means bargains are still available, basically they are giving people yet another chance to get in cheap while doing so is still possible. Smiley


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February 17, 2025, 03:28:14 PM
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It's getting much harder to buy ixcoin by simply placing an order on the exchange because it seems the price just keeps stepping up beyond your price target like theres a bot trading it or has anyone had an order filled recently?

Has anyone coins on Cryptopia and any idea if they will ever be returned to anyone who made a claim?



I noticed that on freiexchange a while back someone was buying up IXCoin. Let's hope its the bankers looking to do an ETF  Grin Not sure Cryptopia will return altcoins because it states on one of the court rulings that they are not obliged to return coins under a certain value although IXCoin seems to have value right now so maybe we can send a petition or something as a community? Maybe you should email them if you have some coins still there?

Does anyone know what the max TPS is possible on IXCoin and if it can be increased in the future? Solana for example has a TPS that looks to be far greater than say the likes of VISA but there are various issues like spam etc.
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It is because of Cryptopia that IXC's price has been so suppressed so long.

Until it is known who is going to get the IXC that was on Cryptopia one cannot tell how to proceed with market-making.

If they let some employee take them home who ends up dumping them, that is one pattern of buy-side we need to build;

If they give them back to diamond hands, we can build higher buy-side.

Price mostly waits to see whether we are looking at a huge dump coming from hackers or thieves or accounting-clerks who abscond with our IXC from Cryptopia or are looking at getting our IXC coins back so we can continue our usual for well over a decade now process of building up its buy-side until the platform we do so on pulls the rug out from under us.

Cryptopia pulled the rug, they should be sued if they use their own rugpull as "excuse" for absconding with our very valuable coins.

IXCoin has a treasury, not some stupid fictional theoretical "market cap" based on how much someone last spent for one or even for a fraction of one but, rather, a per-IXC value based on dividing the total value of its treasury by the number of coins minted.

Each and every IXCoin ever minted could be redeemed for the equivalent of 640.58960293 DeVCoins aka 1.24955862 bitNicKeLs aka 0.02033298 MartianBotCoins aka 0.00362276 LiTeCoins aka 3.25340274 GRouPcoins aka 0.06042694 Canadian Digital Notes aka 0.00000488 BiTCoin, if the treasury were broken into and used to "redeem" each and every IXCoin ever minted...

So we know what they are worth, we just cannot proceed with building the buy-sides until we know what "weather" our buy-sides can expect to be facing...


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February 17, 2025, 08:17:38 PM
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Which exchange?

Freiexchange a while back I was placing some orders but someone kept placing orders over mine.


Maybe you should email them if you have some coins still there?


I emailed them but the response was they were only dealing with holders of bitcoin and dogecoin. Unusual that they would prioritise a turd like dogecoin over say the likes of ethereum.
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So we know what they are worth, we just cannot proceed with building the buy-sides until we know what "weather" our buy-sides can expect to be facing...


-MarkM-




That equates to about 45 cents per coin? Surely ixcoin is worth multiples of that considering muppets out there could start a meme coin based on ixcoin and probably sell it to other muppets for hundreds of dollars?

Ixcoin can do micro transactions without it costing you a fortune unlike Bitcoin and it can probably do other things better than most coins we don't even know about yet.
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The treasury-based value is deliberately conservative.

It doesn't count all their slush funds nor game items and real-estate, just what they choose to put into the treasury, and of course putting more into your treasury while still not managing to build your buy-sides on spot markets up to you current calculated value is likely not a good idea, better to hold on to all that slush fund stuff either to try to build buy-sides with or just to hold until enough work has been done on buy-sides to make it seem worthwhile to build up the calculated value some more by putting more stuff into the treasury.

Treasuries tend to appreciate in value anyway as of course growth assets are perennial favourites for adding to treasuries. Smiley

While spot market prices are low there is also likely an incentive to not build your treasury higher simply because if others realised how great the bargains on the spot markets actually are they might snap them all up before you manage to snap them up yourself. Smiley


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https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/press/press-releases-2024/cryptopia-account-holders-receive-$400m-from-liquidators/


The liquidators of Cryptopia are pleased to announce a significant milestone in the ongoing liquidation process. Over the past two days, more than 10,000 verified account holders of Bitcoin and Dogecoin have received their first cryptocurrency distributions.

Within the last 48 hours, over $400 million NZD in cryptocurrency has been returned on-chain.

Since the launch of the Cryptopia claims portal four years ago, liquidators have been working to identify users so their assets could be returned in-specie and in line with Justice Gendall’s decision in March 2020. This complex process also involved rebuilding the hacked cryptocurrency exchange and reconciling millions of transactions from nearly 960,000 users.

Following this first distribution, liquidators will continue to follow the approved process. This includes giving notice of cut-off dates before distributing the remaining Bitcoin, Dogecoin and all other cryptocurrencies of sufficient value to account holders.

There may be an additional top-up distribution to account holders, allowing them to receive up to 100% of their holdings using “unclaimed holdings”, from those account holders who have not registered in the claims portal after the cut-off dates. The liquidators will give account holders notice of the soft cut-off date in the coming days.

The liquidators encourage all remaining account holders to register on the claims portal and complete the necessary steps to become eligible for future distributions. Further distributions for newly verified users are planned for the New Year.
 
The liquidators would also like to thank all account holders for their continued patience and cooperation as they work to return assets to all eligible account holders.

As this is an ongoing process, the liquidators are unavailable to make any further comments at this time.

- Ends -

For further information, please visit: grantthornton.co.nz/cryptopia-limited





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Important notice for Cryptopia account holders to register claims before the soft cut off date
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CRYPTOPIA LIMITED (IN LIQUIDATION) – IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR ACCOUNT HOLDERS TO REGISTER CLAIMS BEFORE SOFT CUT-OFF DATE.
Contents

    Background
    Distribution process
    Distribution details
    Low / no value trusts & low account balances
    Countries where it is unlawful to hold or transact cryptocurrencies
    Post-appointment deposits

1. The liquidators of Cryptopia Limited (in liquidation) provide this notice to account holders (You) about the need to register your claim in the Cryptopia claims portal by 31 March 2025 (the Soft Cut-off date). Note this soft cut-off only applies to those who remain unregistered on the claims portal, if you have at least registered an account on the claims portal this cut-off will not be applicable to you.
Background

2. In January 2019, the Cryptopia exchange was hacked.  Cryptopia closed after the hack, re-opened for a short period, and was then placed into liquidation in May 2019.

3. On 8 April 2020, the High Court of New Zealand held that Cryptopia held the cryptocurrency on trust for the benefit of account holders.  A separate trust was held to exist in respect of each coin type.

4. The liquidators have undertaken significant work in securing, reconciling and administering the cryptocurrency held on trust for account holders (Cryptocurrency).  On 31 July 2023 the liquidators filed an application with the High Court for directions as to distribution to account holders.  Judgment was given on 1 March 2024 by Justice Palmer.  The orders can be found [here].
Distribution process

5. The liquidators will conduct a phased distribution process.
Interim Distribution

6. The liquidators have already undertaken a distribution to a subset of account holders.  In August 2024, account holders who had registered and accepted their balance in the BTC and DOGE trusts with a holding of more than NZD200 were invited to participate in the Interim Distribution. Actual distributions began in December 2024.  The liquidators distributed a maximum of 90% of those account holders' cryptocurrency holdings.  Cryptocurrency was transferred via a wallet-to-wallet transfer.
Phase One Distribution

7. This phase is open to all eligible account holders.  To be eligible for a distribution an account holder must:


(a)    Be in a trust (coin type) that has sufficient value.
(b)    Have an account balance equivalent to or greater than their cost allocation.  
(c)    Have registered their claim in the Cryptopia claims portal before 31 March 2025.
(d)    Have completed identity verification and completed the balance acceptance / dispute process in the Cryptopia claims portal.

8. Eligible account holders will, after 31 March 2025 receive a notice in the Cryptopia claims portal advising them of the amount that will be deducted from each of their holdings for trust administration costs.  Eligible account holders will then receive a distribution of their holdings, less a deduction of allocated trust administration costs.  Distribution will be done via a wallet-to-wallet transfer.  
Effect of not registering by 31 March 2025

9. If as an account holder you have not registered your claim in the Cryptopia claims portal by 31 March 2025, then:

(e)    The liquidators can proceed as if you are not a beneficiary, per orders from the New Zealand High Court.  
(f)    Cryptocurrency that cannot be attributed to an account holder who has registered a claim in the Cryptopia claims portal will be considered unclaimed holdings.  
(g)    After 31 March 2025, the liquidators will use any unclaimed holdings in a trust to cover trust administration costs for that trust.  Eligible account holders will only be allocated trust administration costs if there is not sufficient value in the unclaimed holdings to bear all administration costs of the trust.  

10. Nothing prevents claims from being received, considered and resolved after the passing of 31 March 2025.  If you, as an account holder, register a claim after 31 March 2025 you would still receive a distribution, but only if there is still cryptocurrency in the relevant trust(s) after trust administration costs have been removed.  It is possible that, if you do not register your claim, some or all of your cryptocurrency will be used to cover trust administration costs and may not be available to be distributed to you.    
Phase Two Distribution

11. The Final Cut-Off Date for all claims will be 30 September 2025.  After this date, the liquidators will wind up the trusts.

12. At this time, the liquidators may be able to conduct a further distribution if:

(h)   There are account holders who have started the claims process but abandoned it.  
(i)    Trust administration costs are less than anticipated, and the trusts will need to be reimbursed.
(j)    The liquidators are able to recover some of the Cryptocurrency stolen in the January 2019 hack.

13. The liquidators will issue a further notice to account holders closer to the time.
Distribution details
Cryptocurrency Entitlement Date

14. The entitlement of each account holder to your respective Cryptocurrency is calculated as at 14 May 2019.
Review process

15. There is a review process available for account holders who wish to dispute their balance.

16. You may make a claim with supporting evidence.  The liquidators may accept that claim.  If the liquidators reject the claim in whole or in part, the liquidators must prepare a written statement of reasons for doing so and send it to the account holder (you) within 20 days.

17. If you are dissatisfied with the liquidators' decision, you may, at any time up until the final cut-off date of 30 September 2025, request a review to determine if the decision should be reversed or varied.

18. Details of the review process (which has been sanctioned by orders of the High Court) will be available in the Cryptopia claims portal.

19. This review process does not extinguish your legal right to prove your claim in the New Zealand High Court.
Low / no value trusts & low account balances

20. The liquidators will not make distributions for coins in trusts that have no or low realisable value and cannot bear all of the costs of trust administration.  The liquidators will assess realisable value of each trust first at 31 March 2025 before the Phase One Distribution, and will continuously review realisable values before making distributions.
Countries where it is unlawful to hold or transact cryptocurrencies


21. If you live in a country where it is or may be unlawful to own, hold or transact cryptocurrencies, then the liquidators will not make distributions to you in a cryptocurrency.  Instead, in order to receive a distribution, you will be required to provide details of a bank account.  The liquidators will pay you a fiat currency equivalent value of your entitlement, less any additional costs associated with paying you in fiat currency.  Before payment is made to you, additional information may be required from you to satisfy the liquidators' legal obligations under New Zealand's laws, including its sanctions and anti-money laundering and countering funding of terrorism laws.  
Post-appointment deposits

22. Deposits of cryptocurrency were made to Cryptopia wallet addresses after the appointment of liquidators and while the exchange was offline.  Those deposits have not been swept into Cryptopia's wallets and do not form part of the cryptocurrencies held on trust.

23. If cryptocurrency was deposited to your deposit address/account after the date of liquidation (14 May 2019), please contact the liquidators' customer service with proof of the deposit and your payment details.  Once the liquidators have verified the deposit, we will arrange for the deposit to be distributed to you.  Transaction costs will be deducted from the amount deposited.

24. Please note that the liquidators are not required to take any other steps to return post-appointment deposits, and post-appointment deposits will only be made to eligible account holders.
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Unusual that they would prioritise a turd like dogecoin over say the likes of ethereum.


They probably were ordered to by D.O.G.E to release the doge early for the dogecoin pump. We live in strange times.




20. The liquidators will not make distributions for coins in trusts that have no or low realisable value and cannot bear all of the costs of trust administration.  The liquidators will assess realisable value of each trust first at 31 March 2025 before the Phase One Distribution, and will continuously review realisable values before making distributions.
Countries where it is unlawful to hold or transact cryptocurrencies



So first hacker criminals steal illegally and then the court allows legal theft of whats left on the shitcoin balance while the liquidators prolong the grift for maximum milking? Does it really pay to be honest these days?

Well look on the bright side ...not even a hacker wants to steal ixcoin. Looks like you couldn't even give it away because nobody seems to want it unless it pumps and they can make some money.

Where is the mighty Vlad to protect the interest of his so called community and why isn't he tweeting cryptopia instead of making stupid videos about the apocalypse?
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Unusual that they would prioritise a turd like dogecoin over say the likes of ethereum.


They probably were ordered to by D.O.G.E to release the doge early for the dogecoin pump. We live in strange times.




20. The liquidators will not make distributions for coins in trusts that have no or low realisable value and cannot bear all of the costs of trust administration.  The liquidators will assess realisable value of each trust first at 31 March 2025 before the Phase One Distribution, and will continuously review realisable values before making distributions.
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So first hacker criminals steal illegally and then the court allows legal theft of whats left on the shitcoin balance while the liquidators prolong the grift for maximum milking? Does it really pay to be honest these days?

Well look on the bright side ...not even a hacker wants to steal ixcoin. Looks like you couldn't even give it away because nobody seems to want it unless it pumps and they can make some money.

Where is the mighty Vlad to protect the interest of his so called community and why isn't he tweeting cryptopia instead of making stupid videos about the apocalypse?


Surely you know that Vlad had been banned from bitcointalk and probably twitter ,facebook and youtube by now Cheesy
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Unusual that they would prioritise a turd like dogecoin over say the likes of ethereum.


They probably were ordered to by D.O.G.E to release the doge early for the dogecoin pump. We live in strange times.




20. The liquidators will not make distributions for coins in trusts that have no or low realisable value and cannot bear all of the costs of trust administration.  The liquidators will assess realisable value of each trust first at 31 March 2025 before the Phase One Distribution, and will continuously review realisable values before making distributions.
Countries where it is unlawful to hold or transact cryptocurrencies



So first hacker criminals steal illegally and then the court allows legal theft of whats left on the shitcoin balance while the liquidators prolong the grift for maximum milking? Does it really pay to be honest these days?

Well look on the bright side ...not even a hacker wants to steal ixcoin. Looks like you couldn't even give it away because nobody seems to want it unless it pumps and they can make some money.

Where is the mighty Vlad to protect the interest of his so called community and why isn't he tweeting cryptopia instead of making stupid videos about the apocalypse?


Surely you know that Vlad had been banned from bitcointalk and probably twitter ,facebook and youtube by now Cheesy


Because he keeps giving out the wrong shitcoin plays? Grin
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Surely you know that Vlad had been banned from bitcointalk and probably twitter ,facebook and youtube by now Cheesy

Because he keeps giving out the wrong shitcoin plays? Grin

We are all on the same boat with ixcoin, madawg—barely afloat.

Instead of complaining here, knowing he can't reply, why not contact him via Telegram?
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Surely you know that Vlad had been banned from bitcointalk and probably twitter ,facebook and youtube by now Cheesy

Because he keeps giving out the wrong shitcoin plays? Grin

We are all on the same boat with ixcoin, madawg—barely afloat.

Instead of complaining here, knowing he can't reply, why not contact him via Telegram?



Is it a public telegram channel that you don't have to sign up to telegram because I ain't giving that russian app my number :-)) Hey ask him to make a new rumble video because we could all do with some shits and giggles round here :-0
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