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March 01, 2018, 09:16:51 AM
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My theory makes more sense than what was been presented as fact regarding the signature campaign deal.

My theory that you are a cunt is a fact.. I am sure lots of members agree with me.

your constant attacking of Lauda and anyone associated with them is even more pathetic than the tit for tat I have with your buddy OG!

seriously dude you need to get out your mums basement, maybe get a hobby or just pay for a prostitute - anything other than the way you conduct yourself now will have a positive affect on your life

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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
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March 01, 2018, 10:11:20 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

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March 01, 2018, 10:15:53 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.

Then please force her to have this (or a similar one) signature for at least five months. So you would do the community a huge favor!

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[size=12pt][color=red][b]Attention. I am a scammer and will steal your money. Do not act with me! Reference: [/b][/color]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0[/size]

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March 01, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.

Then please force her to have this (or a similar one) signature for at least five months. So you would do the community a huge favor!

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[size=12pt][color=red][b]Attention. I am a scammer and will steal your money. Do not act with me! Reference: [/b][/color]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0[/size]

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Attention. I am a scammer and will steal your money. Do not act with me! Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0

Honestly, I'll keep that for 3 years. No problemo. But this dude still has to continue payments.

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March 01, 2018, 10:16:53 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

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March 01, 2018, 10:17:49 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

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March 01, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

Was any of this a legal contract or why do you keep saying ''contract''

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March 01, 2018, 10:20:58 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

Was any of this a legal contract or why do you keep saying ''contract''

It's a public agreement that I had with aTriz, not legally notarized and thus not legally binding, but a contract nonetheless. If aTriz breaks this then you can never really trust him.

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March 01, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

it was an agreement, your current trust ratings make that agreement void..

try and clear your name in a separate thread and then you may have a leg to stand on - until then just move on...

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March 01, 2018, 10:22:13 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.
You did more then 100 posts. Technically that means it's broken.

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March 01, 2018, 10:22:29 AM
 #172

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

it was an agreement, your current trust ratings make that agreement void..

try and clear your name in a separate thread and then you may have a leg to stand on - until then just move on...

Wrong. Trust was not involved.

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March 01, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
 #173

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.
You did more then 100 posts. Technically that means it's broken.

Yeah, I actually thought you were reasonable and would stick to the terms (30-100 obviously implies any figure over 30, since above 100 is still beneficial to you) but I guess not. Don't be a retard, just pay me back. Please. 

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March 01, 2018, 10:24:08 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

Was any of this a legal contract or why do you keep saying ''contract''

It's a public agreement that I had with aTriz, not legally notarized and thus not legally binding, but a contract nonetheless. If aTriz breaks this then you can never really trust him.

Actually to be fair, if it's not legally binding he is legally able to break the agreement any time really. Should I not trust him because he is operating within the law? Not to mention the obvious problems you are facing and as I said before you wont ever get to legendary anyways.

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March 01, 2018, 10:27:20 AM
 #175

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.
You did more then 100 posts. Technically that means it's broken.

Yeah, I actually thought you were reasonable and would stick to the terms (30-100 obviously implies any figure over 30, since above 100 is still beneficial to you) but I guess not. Don't be a retard, just pay me back. Please. 
The community supports me on the fact that your new negative trust makes the contract worthless. Well except quickseller.

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March 01, 2018, 10:27:35 AM
 #176

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.

Was any of this a legal contract or why do you keep saying ''contract''

It's a public agreement that I had with aTriz, not legally notarized and thus not legally binding, but a contract nonetheless. If aTriz breaks this then you can never really trust him.

Actually to be fair, if it's not legally binding he is legally able to break the agreement any time really. Should I not trust him because he is operating within the law? Not to mention the obvious problems you are facing and as I said before you wont ever get to legendary anyways.

If aTriz doesn't break his word, I will reach Legendary. I guarantee it.

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March 01, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
 #177

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.
You did more then 100 posts. Technically that means it's broken.

Yeah, I actually thought you were reasonable and would stick to the terms (30-100 obviously implies any figure over 30, since above 100 is still beneficial to you) but I guess not. Don't be a retard, just pay me back. Please. 

30-100 was clear - outside that range and agreement is broken..

pay him back!

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March 01, 2018, 10:28:21 AM
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, the sig deal i have made became very troublesome. With the guidance of others in this thread, I've decided to not pay alia after the 5 months have ended.
I'm not going waste my time trying to get back the funds that I've already sent her. If alia wants she can return the funds for 4 months and do her posts for March.



Yeah, no. That's not how it works. I haven't broken any contract terms and thus the contract is entirely valid. You still owe me the 1.1 BTC.

I would leave this alone If I were you alia.. you are fighting against the community on this one..

If I were you I would take a week or two out and think about this objectively.

Explain to me - which term of the contract did I break? I fail to see it.
You did more then 100 posts. Technically that means it's broken.

Yeah, I actually thought you were reasonable and would stick to the terms (30-100 obviously implies any figure over 30, since above 100 is still beneficial to you) but I guess not. Don't be a retard, just pay me back. Please. 
The community supports me on the fact that your new negative trust makes the contract worthless. Well except quickseller.

I should have known I can never trust you... warning to everyone, aTriz cannot be trusted with anything. This forum is horrible anyways, I'm leaving.

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March 01, 2018, 10:29:07 AM
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Even ignoring the fact that you were selling a scam script and also an illegal tax evasion service, the contract is null and void for a variety of reasons.

International Law and Treaties are bound by the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. It is implied in every contract that parties are expected to deal with each other honestly, openly, fairly and in good faith. Breaching the covenant of good faith terminates the contract. This obviously not a black and white issue, but I would argue (and I'm sure the majority would agree) that the following are breaches of being "honest, open, fair and acting in good faith":

- aTriz believing he was dealing with an account solely operated by a 19 year old female, when in fact, as far as we know, it may be operated by a 15 year old male, both, or neither of these parties.
- Now proven links to a number of other scam accounts.
- Using an alt account to leave yourself positive feedback, twice.
- Attempting to blackmail and/or extort the other party.

Frustration of purpose is a doctrine that states when an unforeseen event undermines a party's principal purpose for entering into a contract such that the performance of the contract is radically different from performance of the contract that was originally contemplated by both parties, then the contract is terminated. You achieving a red trust of -256 unequivocally renders the value of your signature space "radically different".

Contra proferentem is a doctrine that states where a promise, agreement or term is ambiguous, the preferred meaning should be the one that works against the interests of the party who provided the wording. As you provided the wording of "30 - 100 posts", the preferred meaning is in aTriz's favour, and you breached the contract.

In addition to this, you are guilty of tort - that is, a wrongdoing that causes someone else to suffer loss or harm. aTriz's is now being questioned on his intentions and his trust is at risk because of your actions. In a court, not only would the contract be invalidated, but you would have to pay aTriz for damages.

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March 01, 2018, 10:30:03 AM
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just pay me back. Please. 

No, you have to pay him back the money for the remaining four months.
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