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September 30, 2013, 05:50:34 AM
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http://www.salon.com/2013/09/26/study_everyone_hates_environmentalists_and_feminists_partner/


Why don’t people behave in more environmentally friendly ways? New research presents one uncomfortable answer: They don’t want to be associated with environmentalists.

That’s the conclusion of troubling new research from Canada, which similarly finds support for feminist goals is hampered by a dislike of feminists.

Participants held strongly negative stereotypes about such activists, and those feelings reduced their willingness “to adopt the behaviors that these activities promoted,” reports a research team led by University of Toronto psychologist Nadia Bashir. This surprisingly cruel caricaturing, the researchers conclude, plays “a key role in creating resistance to social change.”

Writing in the European Journal of Social Psychology, Bashir and her colleagues describe a series of studies documenting this dynamic. They began with three pilot studies, which found people hold stereotyped views of environmentalists and feminists.

In one, the participants—228 Americans recruited via Amazon’s Mechanical Turk—described both varieties of activists in “overwhelmingly negative” terms. The most frequently mentioned traits describing “typical feminists” included “man-hating” and “unhygienic;” for “typical environmentalists,” they included “tree-hugger” and “hippie.”

Another study, featuring 17 male and 45 female undergraduates, confirmed the pervasiveness of those stereotypes.

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September 30, 2013, 06:11:46 AM
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How could that be relevant if they choose American people?


Nordic European countries are really involved in those matters ...
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September 30, 2013, 06:29:06 AM
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Because feminists have no legitimate complaints (there are women CEO's, what else do you want)
And environmentalists have gone from being friendly towards the environment to being outright anti human.
Their logic goes that if people didn't exists the environment would benefit.
Which is true, but seriously, fuck em.
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September 30, 2013, 06:45:16 AM
Last edit: September 30, 2013, 06:55:21 AM by Lethn
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lol correct points ronimacarroni, I also find it sad that humanities most intelligent people have been reduced to being hand picked for undertaking studies that state the obvious, my personal annoyances with these groups are a bit different from the stereotypical American view because I'm just pointing out their personalities:

. The feminist groups now really are just more sophisticated and manipulative sexists, they don't campaign for equal rights anymore, they just say they do and expect men to go along with everything

. Environmentalists could easily get people on their side by being against real problems like chemical/oil spills and nuclear power ( seriously no one who's sane and knowledgeable wants nuclear power, that shit should be encased in concrete, they could get elected just on that ) but they insist on trying to scare us with these frankly unrealistic the world is ending scenarios which just makes them sound like religious nutcases, oh and there's also a more realistic argument for environmentalism where if you put concrete over every bit of land you're going to screw yourselves because you won't be able to grow your own food properly

If we got intelligent people all working on space flight rather than these stupid studies we'd probably be a spacefaring species in just a few years as opposed to being underfunded and having spacecraft that looks like it's made of cardboard and foil.
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September 30, 2013, 08:52:12 AM
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Because feminists have no legitimate complaints (there are women CEO's, what else do you want)
And environmentalists have gone from being friendly towards the environment to being outright anti human.
Their logic goes that if people didn't exists the environment would benefit.
Which is true, but seriously, fuck em.


It depends, most people here in Europe are concerned about global warming, environment, and everyone makes small steps to help it (by reducing greenhouse gas emission, sort wastes, and so on.
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September 30, 2013, 11:03:36 AM
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Because feminists have no legitimate complaints (there are women CEO's, what else do you want)
And environmentalists have gone from being friendly towards the environment to being outright anti human.
Their logic goes that if people didn't exists the environment would benefit.
Which is true, but seriously, fuck em.


It depends, most people here in Europe are concerned about global warming, environment, and everyone makes small steps to help it (by reducing greenhouse gas emission, sort wastes, and so on.
Well that's good.
I believe that global warming is partly caused by people but we got time.
We'll fix it little by little with technology.
But I'm wary of its politicized faction since I see it as just another opportunist socialist scheme.
You know like solyndra or giving green subsidies to GM/GE.
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September 30, 2013, 11:39:48 AM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.
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September 30, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.


Lol, more paranoia please Roll Eyes
You might dislike it, but girls got paid less than boys and they are not more stupid.


I think that it is kinda unfair.

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September 30, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.


Lol, more paranoia please Roll Eyes
You might dislike it, but girls got paid less than boys and they are not more stupid.


I think that it is kinda unfair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsIpQ7YguGE
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September 30, 2013, 12:27:34 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.

Lol, more paranoia please Roll Eyes
You might dislike it, but girls got paid less than boys and they are not more stupid.

I think that it is kinda unfair.

The state funds, academic positions, research and organisations.

Girls get paid the same when you control for same role and same level of productivity. Broad aggregates don't tell the whole story.
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September 30, 2013, 01:33:55 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.

+1
This is a strategy used many times in the past to successfully topple nations. This is not paranoia, it is a fact.
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September 30, 2013, 01:34:17 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.


Lol, more paranoia please Roll Eyes
You might dislike it, but girls got paid less than boys and they are not more stupid.


I think that it is kinda unfair.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gender_pay_gap_the_familiar_line_that_women_make_77_cents_to_every_man_s.html
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September 30, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
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The researchers needed a study to figure this out?

Environmentalism, generally, is emotionally centered much more on being anti-human than pro-environment. Being environmentally-conscious is one thing. Standing in front of trees to prevent their harvesting, or demanding punishment for anyone altering their land because an "endangered species" is on it? That's another thing entirely.

Similarly, feminism is to a large degree centered far more on being anti-male than pro-female. And considering the vindictiveness and outright intellectual dishonesty that usually is part of the feminist package, I'd wager that the study showed even more dislike of stereotypical feminists than of stereotypical environmentalists.

When you basically hate most of humanity (or just a ubiquitous half of humanity,) then it's no surprise that people dislike you and want to distance themselves from you, and everything associated with you, no matter how hard you try to hide the core emotion.

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September 30, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.

Uhh, no. The state is a vehicle by which to unify progress on those fronts. Contrary to your paranoid visions, the actual intentions of say, environmental projects and regulations are to make us more energy efficient, our lifestyles more sustainable, and preserve the environment.
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September 30, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
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chauvinist and polluter here. Confirmed. I hate them both.
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September 30, 2013, 03:55:06 PM
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I care deeply about healthy ecosystems, and treating women with respect.

Unfortunately, I have shied away from self-labeling myself as a feminist and environmentalist because assuming those labels actually reduces ones ability to influence anyone, as this study clearly displays.

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September 30, 2013, 04:01:57 PM
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I don't hate environmentalists or feminists.  Smiley

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September 30, 2013, 04:05:12 PM
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Both these movements are artificially driven by the state. Basically an excuse for socialism; increased state power.

Right on, bro!  Find a thoughtful retort to the weak-kneed liberal environmentalist here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136137.msg3268473#msg3268473
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September 30, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
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"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 per day"

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September 30, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
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Sounds like a topic for Fox News, O'Reilly would be proud  Lips sealed
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