Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists

[MelonSmasher]

I like environmentalists and feminists.

[Lethn]

Looks like you need a video camera or a witness if you want to kiss someone.

That genuinely is what it's going to come down to, what I find most interesting is all the religious groups and stuff out there ( people who partly support the feminists position of being totally against sex ) can't seem to attack the porn industry because of course any sexual conduct is filmed for everybody to see so they can't go bloody well claiming that it's rape if there's video evidence can they?

Men can't win against this kind of logic because it really is going to be a case of us having to sign legal documents with a woman before we can even touch her, I swear my life would be so much easier if I was gay but unfortunately I like boobs too much and I suspect it's the same for most straight guys lol.

[Spendulus]

Looks like you need a video camera or a witness if you want to kiss someone.

That genuinely is what it's going to come down to, what I find most interesting is all the religious groups and stuff out there ( people who partly support the feminists position of being totally against sex ) can't seem to attack the porn industry because of course any sexual conduct is filmed for everybody to see so they can't go bloody well claiming that it's rape if there's video evidence can they?

Men can't win against this kind of logic because it really is going to be a case of us having to sign legal documents with a woman before we can even touch her, I swear my life would be so much easier if I was gay but unfortunately I like boobs too much and I suspect it's the same for most straight guys lol.

I don't know.  the outcome of this may be that women wind up having to sign documents with interesting outcomes.

Sorority has girls sign after initiation:

"All members of Fraternity XYZ are hereby given the right for a period of four years to......"

[darkmule]

How does classifying most consensual sex as rape help rape victims?  As a lawyer who has handled rape and sexual harassment cases, I have no idea, but this radical result is what some want to happen in California.  In endorsing a bill in the California legislature that would require “affirmative consent” before sex can occur on campus, the editorial boards of the Sacramento and Fresno Bee and the Daily Californian advocated that sex be treated as “sexual assault” unless the participants discuss it “out loud” before sex, and “demonstrate they obtained verbal ‘affirmative consent’ before engaging in sexual activity.”  Never mind that consent to most sex is non-verbal, and that rape has historically been understood to be an act against someone’s will, rather than simply a non-violent act that they did not consent to in advance.  Perhaps in response to the bill, the University of California, on February 25, adopted a policy requiring affirmative consent not just to sex, but to every form of “physical sexual activity” engaged in. [...]

The affirmative-consent bill, Senate Bill 967, does not explicitly require verbal permission to demonstrate consent, although it warns that “relying solely on nonverbal communication can lead to misunderstanding.”  But supporters of the bill are very clear about their desire to require verbal discussion or haggling prior to sex.  The Fresno Bee praised the bill because “it adopts in campus disciplinary cases the ‘affirmative consent standard,’ which means that ‘yes’ only means ‘yes’ if it is said out loud.”  The Daily Californian declared that “the proposal’s requirement that defendants in a sexual assault case demonstrate they obtained verbal ‘affirmative consent’ before engaging in sexual activity makes SB 967  a step in the right direction.”  Since most couples have engaged in sex without “verbal” consent, supporters of the bill are effectively redefining most people, and most happily-married couples, as rapists.  By demanding verbal discussion before sex, they are also meddling in people’s sex lives in a prurient fashion.

http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/03/09/california-activists-seek-redefine-quiet-consensual-sex-rape/#TVZrZH60qibb873V.99

So basically, the only form of sex that isn't rape is prostitution, since there is verbal discussion of the price beforehand.

[Schleicher]

I don't know.  the outcome of this may be that women wind up having to sign documents with interesting outcomes.
Sorority has girls sign after initiation:
"All members of Fraternity XYZ are hereby given the right for a period of four years to......"

I'm not sure if this would work.

The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of a past sexual relationship, shall not provide the basis for an assumption of consent.

[Spendulus]

I don't know.  the outcome of this may be that women wind up having to sign documents with interesting outcomes.
Sorority has girls sign after initiation:
"All members of Fraternity XYZ are hereby given the right for a period of four years to......"

I'm not sure if this would work.

The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of a past sexual relationship, shall not provide the basis for an assumption of consent.

The written contract, signed by the girl, is the basis of my crude joke (against their crude rules).

PLUS - I am sure their crude rules will have various disclaimers LIKE:

"No touching or groping by government personnel in the performance of their duties, such as TSA personnel at airport check points, will be construed as prohibited behavior".

[Wilikon]

Looks like you need a video camera or a witness if you want to kiss someone.

Somehow every science fiction movie is a prophetic vision...

Cherry 2000 - Dating Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urS8GmwmeWQ

[Lethn]

Looks like you need a video camera or a witness if you want to kiss someone.

Somehow every science fiction movie is a prophetic vision...

Cherry 2000 - Dating Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urS8GmwmeWQ

If that really does happen, I'm finding a way to leave this crappy planet, I wouldn't put it past them to try something like this >_<.

[Lethn]

Yeah that's what feminism used to mean lol but like with the liberal it's become a dirty word nobody wants to associate themselves with, particularly in America.

[Wilikon]

Sweet lady christ Wilikon, all you keep doing is finding extreme examples of the people with the most ridiculous views out of all the daft wankers on the vast and silly landscape that is the internet, and posting them here claiming that they represent the views of most feminists!

It is absurd - all of you must surely be aware on some level that feminists do not believe (e.g.) that all sex is rape unless a contract is signed first.

It is very simple. If you believe that men and women should be treated equally - congratulations! You're a feminist.

Regarding my "extreme examples" why don't you contribute to this thread with everyday examples of feminists with fully funded organizations that share your views of how feminism should be working right now?
I was born around the time men visited the Moon and my mom was an entrepreneur with many employees all her working life, my sister is a one woman boss, in control of her life and her company.
Am I aware of women wanted to be treated equally? Sure I do. I just look around my family.


In this thread I am providing examples of the substance of this article:
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/26/study_everyone_hates_environmentalists_and_feminists_partner/

If you want to believe Salon.com was absurd to even write it then you are free to do so. . If you want to believe because I linked a stupid article I am the one who believes in it, then go ahead too.

I am not a sweet lady, but if you want me to be that fantasy in you head, then go ahead too 

[tkbx]

Because feminists have no legitimate complaints (there are women CEO's, what else do you want)

You would be surprised about some feminists. This could very well be a troll, but I'm sure at least one person reading it agreed:

Allow me to introduce myself...

My name is Krista, otherwise known as "The Femitheist". I am a female, a feminist, and someone who believes strongly in True Equality.

Now, I will begin explaining this entry before I post the actual article... for your discussion, of course.

Women MUST and WILL have equality, and this is the ONLY way to achieve TRUE equality. The testicles of all males, which produce the majority of their testosterone, are the primary cause of their violent behavior. The testicles also attribute greatly to many of the health problems men experience later in life (such as prostate cancer and, of course, testicular cancer).

~:The Solution... International Castration Day.:~

It is my belief (which I consider factual based on my research) that all men SHOULD be castrated. Not only for their own safety, but for the safety of all innocent women and children.

And, to achieve this...

The entire world should have an international holiday known as: "Castration Day"

Males of all ages will be brought to the public squares of their cities nude, to stand together in a circle, as they await castration by a woman known as "The Castrator", who will be a woman chosen from the public much like a juror.

Girls of all ages will attend, lining the streets to cheer and applaud the males as they join the rest of civilized society.

It will be a free vacation for any working woman. And, young girls will be able to leave school to attend this glorious ceremony.

The males will then have one hour to get to know their Castrator. Their female "spouse" will also be able to choose whether or not they would like to milk the male in order to retain a sperm sample.

If the male is too young for a "spouse", their mother or closest female relative will decide.

After this, the men will be given anesthetics. They will be placed on a table, where their Castrator will then slice open their ball-sack, remove their testicles, and the excess skin, stitch them up and clean them up.

They will be given thirty minutes to rest after the procedure.

Once the males have all been castrated, they will be grouped together again for one last look before walking nude back to their homes.

The women will then return to their jobs, schools, et cetera, and rejoice in the completion of yet another successful ceremony.

Any man who tries to evade this holiday, "Castration Day", should be murdered wherever they
are found (treated as a criminal, as it will be a crime not to attend). Or, forced to attend.
Regardless of age.

Any woman who disagrees should be provided therapy in order to free her from misogynistic indoctrination.

This holiday should replace the day known currently as "Father's Day".

If this practice were adopted officially all across the world, all war, crime, and violence would end.

We would have a true Eutopia, where peace reigns, and men do only what they exist for...

Breed.

Labor.

SERVE.

Die.

Likewise, the change of their hormones would make them less aggressive, and thus less likely to rape. It would also provide them with better health throughout their life, as the testicles are a major cause of health issues in males as they age.

All will profit from this...


And, I believe this will come to be someday soon.

Thanks for your consideration!

[westkybitcoins]

It is absurd - all of you must surely be aware on some level that feminists do not believe (e.g.) that all sex is rape unless a contract is signed first.

It is very simple. If you believe that men and women should be treated equally - congratulations! You're a feminist.

For better or worse, I'd say the article in the OP is a more accurate reflection of mainstream opinion of anyone labeling themselves a "feminist" than the image that you're trying to reclaim.

Frankly, considering how far such nonsense has already gone, I totally understand why people uninterested in differentiating would rely on the former over the latter to form their mental image of what "feminist" means.

And again it comes down to... what are actual, self-identified "feminists" going to do to change that image?

[Wilikon]

A  professor who describes herself as “Marxist” in her official biography has accused a group of persecution for describing her as such.

Wellesley College professor Julie Matthaei describes herself as a “Marxist-feminist-anti-racist-ecological-economist” on the college’s official website, but accused a pro-business group of “red-baiting” for citing this description in an advertisement opposing minimum wage hikes.

“It was her description of herself that we put in the ad,” Michael Saltsman, research director for the pro-business group The Employment Policies Institute (EPI), said in an interview with Campus Reform on Tuesday.

EPI’s advertisement appeared in The New York Timeson Feb. 27 and included quotations from academic economists — including Matthaei — who had signed a petition supporting the policy.

“Suddenly you’re thrust on the national stage, and it was a shock,” Matthaei said in an article in The Boston Globe. “I felt I was being red-baited.”

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5480&app=cro

[bryant.coleman]

I like environmentalists and feminists.

Are you female? or do you have any mental health issues?

[Wilikon]

I like environmentalists and feminists.

Me too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ro6fcj6Ek

[darkmule]

The subject line is retarded.  It's like if you said "Everyone hates Republicans" despite the fact that at least 30% of Americans identify as Republicans and the 40% or so who are "Independents" universally hate them.  Even if you assumed all Republicans hate all Democrats and all Democrats hate all Republicans, which isn't true either, that is flat out stupid.

[westkybitcoins]

The subject line is retarded.  It's like if you said "Everyone hates Republicans" despite the fact that at least 30% of Americans identify as Republicans and the 40% or so who are "Independents" universally hate them.  Even if you assumed all Republicans hate all Democrats and all Democrats hate all Republicans, which isn't true either, that is flat out stupid.

Well, you might want to take that up with Salon, which wrote the article that has that title.

Although in their defense (and this is an important point) the studies in the article focused primarily on "activists."

[Wilikon]

The subject line is retarded.  It's like if you said "Everyone hates Republicans" despite the fact that at least 30% of Americans identify as Republicans and the 40% or so who are "Independents" universally hate them.  Even if you assumed all Republicans hate all Democrats and all Democrats hate all Republicans, which isn't true either, that is flat out stupid.

Salon.com is the author of the subject line.

[darkmule]

Salon.com is the author of the subject line.

Okay.  Then fuck Salon.  It certainly isn't their first stupid headline.  Apologies to OP.

[Wilikon]

An exhibit at the “Feminist Museum” at the University of Oregon (UO) has attacked hardware stores for selling tools that have been painted pink.

Britt Bowen, a UO graduate student and co-creator of “Feminist Museum” told Campus Reform that fellow student Mattie Reynolds created the project to protest “the way that certain companies will target female customers by painting things pink.”

“I have this huge problem with going into hardware stores and seeing these traditionally ‘male’ tools that companies make applicable to women by making them pink,” Reynolds said in an article published in Daily Emerald, a student newspaper.






http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5483&app=cro