Does merit really helping the forum.

[FlightyPouch]

Not all of the members are here so they can rank up fast ...

If there will be less members in the future, then I guess most of them will be the one that is here for the money and not the knowledge.

You are wrong.  Spammers and account farmers will leave first because they can not or hardly ever rank up with merit system. Those users simply join the forum to get money/ Bitcoin. Then rest users of the forum will stay here to learn, to discuss, to contribute to the forum discussion, help each other; not mainly or only for getting money anymore.

I think you are misunderstanding my post, and yeah I constructed it wrong. Sorry for that,

I am saying that if there will be less members in the future, then I guess most of the users now are here for the money and not the knowledge.

I guess even if those spammers are still here, we can still say who are the ones who's here to learn and who's here to earn.

[judemarco1996]

I can say that this system really help the snce the spammers will never gets merit since their comments and reply are nonsense and won't be helpful with other users in this forum.

[criz2fer]

Merit system have solved the problem of post flooding intended only to rank up.

that's true, at least the work of the forum staff has become less, which used to be a lot of forum members who often do what they call farming activity in order to level up on time, now they only have to deal with new members who always create new topics that are already dozens of times discussed on the forum and think will be given merit and level up easily.

They should be able to do much better. We are all required to make things unique and also useful for many people. This is much more important because we will understand Bitcoin much more quickly and easily, merit has improved the quality of forums and this is very good for the development of this forum, now we can see a significant change like the loss of the scammers. This change has indirectly increased the confidence of various sources of information, the Forum is also increasing in popularity because it can provide confidence in the majority of developments around the digital currency.

Uniqueness of the topics will come to a repetitiveness. More topics will be unique by season and by the trending news which is happening in the crypto. Discussions will be focused on that. Hope there will be a FAQ at the home page of the forum for newbies and investors to looked more organized.

[cryptohacker29@]

Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.

[gilangIDR]

Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.

Everyone must have different views. But for me merit has made this forum has a much higher standard than other forums. Now we have limits and also have a thing to be fulfilled in order to achieve a much better level. Making a useful post becomes the original goal, for me I do not expect merit because what I hope is the science I can get. So for people who have a new account and just get to know this forum do not be sad. You have a much better chance when you can understand bitcoin well. Merit may not make you achieve success. But if you have knowledge and experience then I am sure you can get success.

[Greenkarki]

Personally i do say yes. It helps me. I don’t worry if i still get merit to rank up. The moment the merit system was brought to the screen, stayed back thinking and decided to omit sections "Bitcoin Discussion, Trading Discussion and Altcoin Discussion". Picked up other sections with child boards and posting now. Taking time in answering to tech question. I started referring stuffs related to wallets, mining tools, crypto market moves and etc.

I get satisfied to the work i am doing when i make quality posts. The quality posts i think may not be for others, but i do not worry about it as i am towards it.  But i keep myself so alert when replying to the threads i have chosen. Merit will follow when i am done with perfect quality posts. I am now in learning stage of providing quality posts.

I am not pointing out or criticizing anyone here who are against merit system. But i wanted to share my moves. Who takes it seriously will seriously receive not only merits but also good reputation to the account. This would surely enhance the forum.

[bobrova]

Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.

You seem to be having a lot of doubts regarding the success of the merit system. Just go through the posts in this thread itself and you will find a lot of amazing replies added here by new members as well. This itself speaks whether the merit system has helped the forum  or not.

Regarding the moderators taking care of merit system, that is not required. In fact, merit system is implemented in such a fashion that the work of moderators is being performed by the members here. All the members are goign through posts of other members and meriting them if they deserve so.

[TheUltraElite]

I can say that this system really help the snce the spammers will never gets merit since their comments and reply are nonsense and won't be helpful with other users in this forum.

And you will also not receive any merits if you follow these spammers that you talk about because you are simply acting like one of them. Also do improve your English.

Merit system have solved the problem of post flooding intended only to rank up.

that's true, at least the work of the forum staff has become less, which used to be a lot of forum members who often do what they call farming activity in order to level up on time, now they only have to deal with new members who always create new topics that are already dozens of times discussed on the forum and think will be given merit and level up easily.

They should be able to do much better. We are all required to make things unique and also useful for many people. This is much more important because we will understand Bitcoin much more quickly and easily, merit has improved the quality of forums and this is very good for the development of this forum, now we can see a significant change like the loss of the scammers. This change has indirectly increased the confidence of various sources of information, the Forum is also increasing in popularity because it can provide confidence in the majority of developments around the digital currency.

Uniqueness of the topics will come to a repetitiveness. More topics will be unique by season and by the trending news which is happening in the crypto. Discussions will be focused on that. Hope there will be a FAQ at the home page of the forum for newbies and investors to looked more organized.

How is that even related to this discussion? Discussing about merit should not stopped or moved to a new board like I have suggested. No use of rehashing the same old arguments over and over again just to increase post counts.

Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.

Moderators of this forum are having their hands full with the shitposters being reported. These lowlifes simply make new accounts and farm them until they cant rank up any more or get caught.

[DaftAjax]

I can say that this system really help the snce the spammers will never gets merit since their comments and reply are nonsense and won't be helpful with other users in this forum.

Its really ironic for you to say that. Its very obvious actually, since the Merit System was introduced, many members create threads that are all about Merits, but has the same content, whining and complaining about the System.

One example is yours. If you already knew that, why did you do the same thing, how are you different from them.

Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.

Look at these threads:
Merit Stat from theymos data
Where the Merit Pours?

After you read and study all of that data, tell me once again if its not working, and didn't do its job.

It is intended to associate with activities, to make more legitimate. I mean although 14 activities are being updated once every 2 weeks, still its easy to earn. But with the Merit System, your rank would definitely make sense.

The moderators? Are you serious? theymos - the admin implemented this. And the moderators are not against it whatsoever. You really don't have any idea or any background in it, do you?

[Mpamaegbu]

Of course it is helping the forum - look how many merit threads and posts it has created.

Lol. Jet Cash is being hilariously sarcastic.  

Though he is right on the number of post this has created. If we look past the wall of amusement we would agree that the merit system is helping howbeit in its little measure in controlling spamming and draught of intelligibility in post constructiveness. It has also brought out a different dimension to the forum even with the "Joe's Signatureless Challenge" on board which encourages posters to up their game by increasing their post quality.

The Merit system is a good one.

[Shamie1002]

In general, it's a great system. And I think it is helpful not just now but also in the future.

There are a lot of people who are complaining about the new system but they are not seeing the importance of it in the future.

I do know that spammers will still be spammers and yeah, they will still be paid but I think they will also be finding that staying in a single rank for the rest of their time here in the forum will be kind of boring so they will find a way to work on their merits to rank up.

In the meantime, let's just accept the system and wait for the results in the future to kick in.

The merit system was just about a month old if I am not mistaken and it already has a great impact to the forum. Less abusers, less further complications. Posts are somehow like being regulated and reviewed which is a great thought though I think some merit providers have additional workload.

I do agree that some alt accounts will get tired of spamming because they can not actually rank without constructing good ones for merits.

[Ms Emi]

Yes, it helps everyone, like people, can't rank up just by saying hello in the local threads, also not everybody can't just rank up!!! at least we're all stack until Jr. Member hahaha isn't funny in some way?

Merit stops more incoming farming accounts, I just hope we can do activities to earn merits like "to do to earn 1 merit" something like this.

[Shamie1002]

In general, it's a great system. And I think it is helpful not just now but also in the future.

There are a lot of people who are complaining about the new system but they are not seeing the importance of it in the future.

I do know that spammers will still be spammers and yeah, they will still be paid but I think they will also be finding that staying in a single rank for the rest of their time here in the forum will be kind of boring so they will find a way to work on their merits to rank up.

In the meantime, let's just accept the system and wait for the results in the future to kick in.

Farm accounts could just be frozen for a while and can still be paid but I think it can all disappear if they will be caught, if they got negative trust and if they are tired of posting and not getting any merits. For now, we should wait.

It is not easy to simply eradicate spammers and shit posters. But certainly, it was a good step forward from our moderators for keeping our forum functional. The new system is serving the forum good and it works efficiently. I can tell that nonsense comments were lessened. I think with more time, we could see greater results from it. I am not just hoping but I am sure with it.

[RYXES]

Slowly and surely it is helping. It has saved my quite a bit of time as there isn't half as much rubbish posts out there now.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

at least we're all stack until Jr. Member hahaha isn't funny in some way?

^^This makes absolutely no sense to me, and it's the kind of drivel that foreign shitposters need to stop writing.  People who write words like the above obviously have no grasp of English and at the very least should not be paid to write in it.

I think it's a shame that sig campaigns don't pay for local board posts--and that some of the less reputable ones employ newbie to Jr. Member-level accounts, which are basically throwaway accounts when they get banned for spamming.  There needs to be some serious reform on bitcointalk as to who should be allowed remuneration for posting, and who shouldn't.

[OcTA Bd]

It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?
[/quotes]
Yes it is working as expected, we have less spam and since anything empty should be refilled, the spam is now come to this section with dozens of merit topics!

merit is GARBAGE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032236.0
Would you join this Merit Survey? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2999382.0
Why did they actually enter MERIT ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030382.0
Some confusions regarding "Merit system" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3000813.0
Merit is the best thing that happened to new users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828014.0
Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3006322.0
Yet another "Merit" post....please just hear me out for a minute. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035737.0
The Merit System - Why it is fundamentally flawed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3042759.0

Enjoy reading the topics that i found only in the first and second page of meta!!!
Hilarious, meta is ruined SOS!

But do you know that merit had been sold to many of the users. Suppose my good friend is a user of this forum. If he need some merit then obviously I will give him merit without reading the post. You may say that you won't but most of us do. As a result many of the good post don't got any merit. Again many merit also got sold among a definite community. But we won't understand because we don't understand their language. If they sold merit by speaking in their own language then you can say nothing. I heard that, a full member account with 100 merit demands only 0.1 btc. To me instead of merit system I think demerit system may be introduced. The low quality post will be demerited.
Thank you

[InvoKing]

It is almost a month the new system of merit has been implement to the forum. What is your opinion? It is really working as it was expected? What is you opinion?

Yes it is working as expected, we have less spam and since anything empty should be refilled, the spam is now come to this section with dozens of merit topics!

merit is GARBAGE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032236.0
Would you join this Merit Survey? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2999382.0
Why did they actually enter MERIT ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3030382.0
Some confusions regarding "Merit system" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3000813.0
Merit is the best thing that happened to new users https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828014.0
Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3006322.0
Yet another "Merit" post....please just hear me out for a minute. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3035737.0
The Merit System - Why it is fundamentally flawed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3042759.0

Enjoy reading the topics that i found only in the first and second page of meta!!!
Hilarious, meta is ruined SOS!

But do you know that merit had been sold to many of the users. Suppose my good friend is a user of this forum. If he need some merit then obviously I will give him merit without reading the post. You may say that you won't but most of us do. As a result many of the good post don't got any merit.
Thank you

Fixed it for you, don't ruin my text next time
If someone catched buying or giving smerit for useless posts, he will receive a negative trust likely. If you have examples of abuse then report it to moderators

[gogrowglow]

I am a nuvie here, and of course my rank is nuvie but then I tried hard to read and understand things here so that I can post relevant answer to the topic at hand.  I really spend sometime reading and understanding.

I have a question, if you dont mind guys, how abut if .. for example .. you have friends here and between the two of you agreed  to give you merits even if your post is not so  good or relevant with the topic,  can it be detected or seen by the managers or admin and what is the penalty for  it. Just asking. 

[gawer33]

it works but needed some tweaks especially for someone whose native language is not English it will be harder for them to get merits

[Jet Cash]

I have a question, if you dont mind guys, how abut if .. for example .. you have friends here and between the two of you agreed  to give you merits even if your post is not so  good or relevant with the topic,  can it be detected or seen by the managers or admin and what is the penalty for  it. Just asking. 

The penalties range from banning, negative trust to being put on ignore by merit awarders so that neither of you get any merit in the future.

What part of the word 'merit' didn't you understand?