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October 20, 2013, 11:43:01 AM |
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To make the math easy, at 10MH, the CPU will get (from test results) somewhere around 0.06 difficulty-one shares per minute, or around one difficulty-one share every 24.6666667 minutes. At a difficulty of 900, you need 900 difficulty-one shares. Therefore, it would take nearly 16 days to get a block at current difficulty with one of those CPUs.
At 10Mh/s it takes (2^32)/10000000 = 429 seconds (7.15 minutes) to scan the nonce range for a difficulty one share. Now my statistics knowledge is a bit rusty, but I reckon this should be the same as the long term average to find a share. So that gives 900 * 429 seconds = approx 4.5 days rather than 16 days, which chimes in rather better with my current experience of a roughly 2-4 blocks per day on around 89MHash/s. Diff is now at 1168 (first time above 1000?), are the GPU's coming online already? Ahh, appears my napkin math was wrong, never mind
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kramble
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October 20, 2013, 11:51:40 AM |
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Ahh, appears my napkin math was wrong, never mind Yeah, sorry to nitpick, but your 16 day figure just "felt" wrong to me, so I thought I'd put another calculation out there (I wasn't entirely certain I had it right though). Good luck with the OpenCL, even though that's not going to help with my mining (FPGA only, I've not got an even halfway decent GPU rig).
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October 20, 2013, 12:08:16 PM |
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when the GPU miner
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BlueDragon747 (OP)
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October 20, 2013, 12:36:29 PM |
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R9 280X it will be compatible? R9 280X has the same statis as 7970.
Most graphics cards support OpenCL these days including some of the Arm SoC but it is best to check with the manufactures website and Check for OpenCL on your device info page. but as for the hash rate on any of these devices only testing the OpenCL miner will give a hash rate that you can compare with others results, so until it has been release only Vorksholk knows the performance I am happy to do some testing I have a couple of 5870, 6850 and 6950 Many thanks to Vorksholk for working on the OpenCL miner it does save me quite a bit of work still working on pool software atm current results are: p2p has quite a few bugs that still need to be fixed before I could do a release pushpool has a huge amount of bugs and I am not going to continue working on that currently I am working with slush0 stratum pool software and creating a new version that works with Blakecoin and will release on Github once it is working and tested. my plan was to get some pool software ready for this weekend but it has been quite a disappointing week with lots of bugs as soon as I get something working I will release same day Edit: Blakecoin is 2 weeks old today and overall I am happy with the progress we could use a few more developers working on supporting software but kramble and now Vorksholk have been very helpful in finding solutions
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Vorksholk
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October 20, 2013, 02:26:57 PM |
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To clear up some potential confusion, I didn't write the OpenCL miner, I paid smolen a bit to modify reaper to support blakecoin.
Closed beta (open to anyone who has some hardware not already covered by testers who currently applied) will be going out in a few hours (Let's say, target of 5PM forum time, so about 2.5 hours). After that, sometime Monday (probably monday afternoon for me, might be early Tuesday forum time) I'll gather all the data (best settings for GPUs, GPU speed, temps, etc.), put together an official launch thread. However, since I only funded the project and didn't write the miner myself, I won't be able to provide any new builds based on code changes, etc. unless they are fairly straight-forward. My hope is that the community will pick the software development up.
Here's some current stats: 7950: >2GH/s at a decent overclock 7970: >1.6GH/s at a decent overclock
Also, I'd like to note that, since the blakecoin algorithm (blake[8,10]) is pretty simple, it seems that GPUs spend a bit of time idle between each round, meaning that higher clock rates are stable. For example, my 7950s at 1100MHz are running great. They came stock at 960.
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October 20, 2013, 02:40:53 PM |
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From my observations, it seems that an average high-end processor (i7-3770k, AMD FX-8320, AMD FX-8350) gets around 10MH to 12MH.
To make the math easy, at 10MH, the CPU will get (from test results) somewhere around 0.06 difficulty-one shares per minute, or around one difficulty-one share every 24.6666667 minutes. At a difficulty of 900, you need 900 difficulty-one shares. Therefore, it would take nearly 16 days to get a block at current difficulty with one of those CPUs.
The OpenCL miner is coming soon, I want the launch to go real smooth, so if someone with one or more of the following cards can PM me so we can get performance statistics together and figure out optimal settings, that would be great: -7990 -78xx -7770 -6990 -6970 -6950 -68xx -5970 -5850
Also, I'm gonna try to time the GPU miner release with some pool software from BlueDragon(747), but that is a huge job, so we'll see how timetables work out...
I have an idle 5870 to test with. Since I'm down from having 2x 5870's and a 5850, a 5870 and the 5850 died on me. I hardly gpu mine now because on just one card and XPM mine at the moment.
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smolen
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October 20, 2013, 02:58:12 PM |
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Closed beta (open to anyone who has some hardware not already covered by testers who currently applied) will be going out in a few hours (Let's say, target of 5PM forum time, so about 2.5 hours).
And now I'm going to be linched by Smelter users waiting for the fresh version Anyone testing OpenCL miner, please report GPU temperature during BLC and BTC mining, the difference will give me an idea how much the kernel can be improved.
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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 20, 2013, 05:55:39 PM |
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yes the difficulty was displaying incorrectly it was difficulty/256 it should be fixed now I've seen two very different targets reported by Blakecoin wallet during reaper debug. (Or think I've seen, didn't made logs, unfortunately ) Visually these values differed by 256 factor, extra "00" in hexadecimal representation. I've turned off target checking and made reaper to submit all the shares, just to be sure that no block will be lost. Well, downside of this decision is high stale shares count on the screen and I can live with that. Could you re-check difficulty calculations in the wallet code, may be some old code wasn't upgraded?
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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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Vorksholk
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October 20, 2013, 05:57:33 PM |
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October 20, 2013, 06:27:33 PM |
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yes the difficulty was displaying incorrectly it was difficulty/256 it should be fixed now I've seen two very different targets reported by Blakecoin wallet during reaper debug. (Or think I've seen, didn't made logs, unfortunately ) Visually these values differed by 256 factor, extra "00" in hexadecimal representation. I've turned off target checking and made reaper to submit all the shares, just to be sure that no block will be lost. Well, downside of this decision is high stale shares count on the screen and I can live with that. Could you re-check difficulty calculations in the wallet code, may be some old code wasn't upgraded? the difficulty was correct in code and on network but the difficulty that was being show was incorrect out by a factor of 256 I will check the wallet code just to make sure, the wallet bnProofOfWorkLimit is 2^24 compared with bitcoins 2^32 this might be an issue for the calculation?
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October 20, 2013, 06:42:06 PM |
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the difficulty was correct in code and on network but the difficulty that was being show was incorrect out by a factor of 256 I will check the wallet code just to make sure, the wallet bnProofOfWorkLimit is 2^24 compared with bitcoins 2^32 this might be an issue for the calculation?
Reaper gets target value via "getwork" RPC call, that is the only codepath I worry about. I remember the first target, printed by Reaper and the second one, printed by my debug code, being different. That may be an error in my own code or memory I'll give it a test run again when I'll have time. If reported difficulty will be greater than real one Reaper will filter out valid blocks so it's worth checking.
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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 20, 2013, 06:44:07 PM |
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the difficulty was correct in code and on network but the difficulty that was being show was incorrect out by a factor of 256 I will check the wallet code just to make sure, the wallet bnProofOfWorkLimit is 2^24 compared with bitcoins 2^32 this might be an issue for the calculation?
Reaper gets target value via "getwork" RPC call, that is the only codepath I worry about. I remember the first target, printed by Reaper and the second one, printed by my debug code, being different. That may be an error in my own code or memory I'll give it a test run again when I'll have time. If reported difficulty will be greater than real one Reaper will filter out valid blocks so it's worth checking. wallet has getwork and a lightweight getwork2 this might be the issue I will definitely look into it and fix it for 0.8.7 thanks for reporting
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October 20, 2013, 07:16:46 PM |
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Made test run of Reaper, digged through wallet code and git history, found nothing wrong. Must be my imagination...
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Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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October 20, 2013, 07:20:16 PM |
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Made test run of Reaper, digged through wallet code and git history, found nothing wrong. Must be my imagination...
I will double check anyways, thanks for your work in getting reaper ported to Blakecoin looks like it is working well
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October 21, 2013, 01:06:23 AM |
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Mining beta is going good, people are reporting >5GH/s with a 7990, ~2.1-2.6GH/s with a 7970, similar numbers for 7950s. PM me if you want to help test the beta.
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October 21, 2013, 01:56:02 AM |
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Mining beta is going good, people are reporting >5GH/s with a 7990, ~2.1-2.6GH/s with a 7970, similar numbers for 7950s. PM me if you want to help test the beta. Older cards 5870 ~ 1.1GH/s - 1.3GH/s 6970 ~ 1.15GH/s - 1.35GH/s 6950 ~ 990MH/s - 1.15GH/s 6870 ~ 800MH/s - 870MH/s 6850 ~ 500MH/s - 610MH/s worksize 128 aggression 27 threads_per_gpu 2 cpu_mining_threads 0 vectors 1 and if you want to use your machine as a desktop aggression 22
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October 21, 2013, 02:11:36 AM |
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Mining beta is going good, people are reporting >5GH/s with a 7990, ~2.1-2.6GH/s with a 7970, similar numbers for 7950s. PM me if you want to help test the beta. Older cards 5870 ~ 1.1GH/s - 1.3GH/s 6970 ~ 1.15GH/s - 1.35GH/s 6950 ~ 990MH/s - 1.15GH/s 6870 ~ 800MH/s - 870MH/s 6850 ~ 500MH/s - 610MH/s worksize 128 aggression 27 threads_per_gpu 2 cpu_mining_threads 0 vectors 1 and if you want to use your machine as a desktop aggression 22 where is the tools?
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October 21, 2013, 03:03:22 AM |
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Can anyone advise how to mine with cgminer please?
Is that a SHA256 or scrypt?
How should the bat file look like for this coin please?
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October 21, 2013, 03:12:46 AM |
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Can anyone advise how to mine with cgminer please?
Is that a SHA256 or scrypt?
How should the bat file look like for this coin please?
it is not SHA-256 or Scrypt it is Blake-256 and cgminer is not ported to it yet PM Vorksholk if you want to help test the OpenCL miner software Reaper_Blakecoin_Beta
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October 21, 2013, 03:36:24 AM |
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Can anyone advise how to mine with cgminer please?
Is that a SHA256 or scrypt?
How should the bat file look like for this coin please?
it is not SHA-256 or Scrypt it is Blake-256 and cgminer is not ported to it yet PM Vorksholk if you want to help test the OpenCL miner software Reaper_Blakecoin_Beta thanks
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