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Author Topic: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts!  (Read 274530 times)
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June 23, 2015, 01:20:32 AM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?

   Way more then enough.  I took .015 to .5 on PRC.  Start small and get a feel for it before you increase your bets.  You can use the simulator to see how your strategy should work.  And if you can do any kind of programming. look at the programmer mode..   

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June 23, 2015, 06:23:07 AM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
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June 23, 2015, 03:06:55 PM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
Then please write a good guide with your strategy. ;-)
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June 23, 2015, 08:47:07 PM
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Thank you for sharing this, try to include donation address in your signature because you deserve it.

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June 24, 2015, 12:45:43 AM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
Then please write a good guide with your strategy. ;-)


Maybe a PM would be better.  Can you imagine if someone actually found a winning auto-pilot strategy?  I don't think things would stay provable fair for very long... or maybe I'm wrong.  IDK

By the way, feel free to PM me winning stratitties too :-)

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June 24, 2015, 03:02:04 PM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?

   Way more then enough.  I took .015 to .5 on PRC.  Start small and get a feel for it before you increase your bets.  You can use the simulator to see how your strategy should work.  And if you can do any kind of programming. look at the programmer mode..   
thanks for info sir Smiley
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June 24, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
would you mind sharing the setting you use when you run the bot?
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June 24, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
Then please write a good guide with your strategy. ;-)


Maybe a PM would be better.  Can you imagine if someone actually found a winning auto-pilot strategy?  I don't think things would stay provable fair for very long... or maybe I'm wrong.  IDK

By the way, feel free to PM me winning stratitties too :-)

Did you really have a winning strategy on gambling expecially for dice? I dont think there are any good strategy that have a perfect winning because what I know every gambling depends on luck, there are no pure strategy that can help us to win. If you really have a winning strategy I think there are no more dice gambling site here. You just need to roll over their place and beat the house. But on the otherside you are just telling them that you have really good winning strategy, its kind of fishy
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June 25, 2015, 05:15:51 AM
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I have a question about the "Stop Conditions" tab.  Specifically, about the "Reset After XXXX Btc Loss" part.  I'm hoping that will reset to the base bet after it hits a BTC loss of a specific amount.  So if my martingale is ticking up and it hits a specific amount of .001 btc, I want it to reset the base bet.  

I'm hoping that's what the setting under the "Stop Conditions" does.  Am I getting that right?

Edit:  Part 2 of my question:  When I run the simulator, does it factor in the "Stop Conditions" and actually reset the bet as I specified in these settings?

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June 26, 2015, 12:34:23 AM
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I have a question about the "Stop Conditions" tab.  Specifically, about the "Reset After XXXX Btc Loss" part.  I'm hoping that will reset to the base bet after it hits a BTC loss of a specific amount.  So if my martingale is ticking up and it hits a specific amount of .001 btc, I want it to reset the base bet.  

I'm hoping that's what the setting under the "Stop Conditions" does.  Am I getting that right?

Edit:  Part 2 of my question:  When I run the simulator, does it factor in the "Stop Conditions" and actually reset the bet as I specified in these settings?

there are two reset on xxxx btc loss.
the first: reset after xxxx btc STREAK loss -> if you're on a losing streak and lose xxxx btc IN THAT STREAK, it resets
the second: reset after xxxx btc loss -> if your session loss goes below the limit, it resets

if you're doing a pure martingale, the two settings are basically identical, but for other settings, like dAlembert, or a martingale with reset parameters for losing streaks their functions do differ.


part 2: it should.

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June 27, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2015, 10:29:42 AM by grendel25
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Seuntjie,  I have a request.

Is it possible to add an option to the Fibonacci tab?  Where it says "When Level xx is reached", there are currently two options under that to either "stop" or "reset".  Is it possible to add a new "increment" part here that would override the other two increment options?  

So when I lose at a certain level, I basically want to change the increment for maybe a couple of bets but then go back to original increment "on loss" that was set before.

Also... Does reverse Labouchere work?  It only seems to place a couple of bets or just one bet and then stops.  Am I doing it wrong?

Thanks

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June 27, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
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Seuntjie,  I have a request.

Is it possible to add an option to the Fibonacci tab?  Where it says "When Level xx is reached", there are currently two options under that to either "stop" or "reset".  Is it possible to add a new "increment" part here that would override the other two increment options?  

So when I lose at a certain level, I basically want to change the increment for maybe a couple of bets but then go back to original increment "on loss" that was set before.

Also... Does reverse Labouchere work?  It only seems to place a couple of bets or just one bet and then stops.  Am I doing it wrong?

Thanks

The problem with this, is after a few days or weeks, you're going to realize this doesn't work as well as you hoped, so you want to try another level, have it changed the rate of stepping a second time, then a third, then a fourth. Point is, It's not practical for me to make these changes to the bot every time. So instead I added this awesome little thing to the bot called the programmer mode. This allows you to do these kind of customizations yourself.

Yes reverse labouchere works. Labouchere isn't supposed to keep on betting indefinitely. Once it works through your list of bets, it should stop. Unless you set it to reset on a completing a series. also, the shorter your list of bets, the fewer bets it will place.

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June 27, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Last edit: June 28, 2015, 12:11:07 AM by grendel25
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Seuntjie,  I have a request.

Is it possible to add an option to the Fibonacci tab?  Where it says "When Level xx is reached", there are currently two options under that to either "stop" or "reset".  Is it possible to add a new "increment" part here that would override the other two increment options?  

So when I lose at a certain level, I basically want to change the increment for maybe a couple of bets but then go back to original increment "on loss" that was set before.

Also... Does reverse Labouchere work?  It only seems to place a couple of bets or just one bet and then stops.  Am I doing it wrong?

Thanks

The problem with this, is after a few days or weeks, you're going to realize this doesn't work as well as you hoped, so you want to try another level, have it changed the rate of stepping a second time, then a third, then a fourth. Point is, It's not practical for me to make these changes to the bot every time. So instead I added this awesome little thing to the bot called the programmer mode. This allows you to do these kind of customizations yourself.

Yes reverse labouchere works. Labouchere isn't supposed to keep on betting indefinitely. Once it works through your list of bets, it should stop. Unless you set it to reset on a completing a series. also, the shorter your list of bets, the fewer bets it will place.

Seuntjie, thanks again.  I played around with reverse Labouchere some more and found that it doesn't seem to work similarly to regular forward Labouchere as far as the resets go.  For example, the sims end shortly at lower percentages like 49.5 or lower but when I go up to 90% the sim runs for a long time.  Maybe it's something about the mechanics of reverse labouchere I don't understand.

For the programmer mode, fair enough and I don't mind trying out some of the code.  But... I really learn better by seeing some level of example.  I'm not asking for someone else's script but just some examples of how the syntax of putting various code snipets together looks like in a functioning 'programmer' mode script.  So far, the guides I've seen aren't for programmer mode or I just haven't looked in the right place.

Do you have a link to any place where I can learn about how to use the programmer mode?

Edit: seuntjie, The "Reset after xxx Btc Profit" at the bottom of the "Stop Conditions" tab isn't doing anything.  I set it to an amount and when I hit that level of btc profit the bet size stays the same.  How do I reset the bet size to a certain amount or back to the base after reaching a certain level of profit?  Thanks again.  I'm sending you a small tip for your help.  Enough for an overpriced Starbucks coffee or a happy-hour beverage.  Still not winning with my efforts but you deserve at least some sort of tip for helping me and you actually deserve a lot more but I'm bot btc rich :/

Edit:  oops, I'm stupid.  Looks like I just had to restart the bot and then the reset on btc profit feature started working again.  hehehehehehehe  Smiley

TX ID of the meager tip I sent: 2552a18fe7052d086b08baace33ed77d2ce79c02e44e49b0ba1cc109ebb8e0e7        Thx again   Might send more if I can figure this out.

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June 28, 2015, 03:43:20 PM
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Whats the minimum btc I can test bot successfully with ?
Is 0.25 btc enough ?
Yes, it`s anough.... For me Smiley I can make 1 BTC from start with this summ. But if you dont know how bot is work and how to setup him, you can lose all money.
How long did it take you all to pick up strategies and start making a return?

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July 01, 2015, 10:43:33 AM
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Hi seuntjie.

I have been using your bot with programmer mode with a strategy I coded, playing in the site 999dice.

Simulations look fine, but problem comes when betting real coins.

It bets 10 rolls and then following happens:

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Then I try to log in with another 999dice bot and following happens:

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Any help is welcomed.
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July 01, 2015, 12:20:57 PM
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Mind Explaining that to me? I never understand what is preroll ?
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July 01, 2015, 12:44:40 PM
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Mind Explaining that to me? I never understand what is preroll ?

The exact same question was asked in the past (with nearly the same wording). You can check the following quote for the details.

I never understand what a preroll is..
Mind Explaining that to me?

It is indeed a gamblers fallacy.

Imagine you start your bet with 1 satoshi, and you get a 20 losing streak, you bet:
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,262144,524288

Which means you wagered and lost 1048576, now you're busted because you don't have enough money for the next bet, but lets say you preroll 5 rolls, you bet:
1,1,1,1,1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768

Now you've wagered only 65539 and assuming the same bank, have enough for the next bet. So basically the fallacy is that you wont end up with a 25 losing streak, which is entirely possible of course.

As the guy asking for it intends, alot of people use prerolls with very small bets then hike their bets up to very large amounts. Same kind of fallacy

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July 01, 2015, 01:04:03 PM
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Hi seuntjie.

I have been using your bot with programmer mode with a strategy I coded, playing in the site 999dice.

Simulations look fine, but problem comes when betting real coins.

It bets 10 rolls and then following happens:



Then I try to log in with another 999dice bot and following happens:



Any help is welcomed.

I will look into this to get it fixed in the next version.

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July 01, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
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Mind Explaining that to me? I never understand what is preroll ?

The exact same question was asked in the past (with nearly the same wording). You can check the following quote for the details.

I never understand what a preroll is..
Mind Explaining that to me?

It is indeed a gamblers fallacy.

Imagine you start your bet with 1 satoshi, and you get a 20 losing streak, you bet:
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768,65536,131072,262144,524288

Which means you wagered and lost 1048576, now you're busted because you don't have enough money for the next bet, but lets say you preroll 5 rolls, you bet:
1,1,1,1,1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048,4096,8192,16384,32768

Now you've wagered only 65539 and assuming the same bank, have enough for the next bet. So basically the fallacy is that you wont end up with a 25 losing streak, which is entirely possible of course.

As the guy asking for it intends, alot of people use prerolls with very small bets then hike their bets up to very large amounts. Same kind of fallacy

I couldn't have explained it better myself  Tongue

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July 03, 2015, 02:22:23 AM
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seuntjie, does the simulator bet more than the balance?  It seems like it should stop instead but it keeps going.  So like if I do a bet sequence that makes it multiply by 10 at some point I've seen it where the bot will bet and show a win even thought it never had the balance to support a 10X bet.

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