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October 25, 2015, 12:12:29 PM
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The weird thing about the draws are the results. People who buy the least tickets win the most money. Only one or two people who spend a lot of money buying lottery tickets won

any of the Jackpot prizes. It should be the other way around... there should be lots of people who buy lots of tickets winning these prizes. I was under the impression that the more

tickets you buy, the higher your chance to win the bigger prizes or any of the prizes for that matter... but the results of almost all the draws reflect the opposite. hmmmm....  Huh

That's true of course but(i'm considering the latest round) when you have a total of 11m of tickets also if you have 90k(the person that won the 4th prize) tickets you still have only less than 1% of probability to win the first prize.

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October 25, 2015, 12:22:01 PM
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The weird thing about the draws are the results. People who buy the least tickets win the most money. Only one or two people who spend a lot of money buying lottery tickets won

any of the Jackpot prizes. It should be the other way around... there should be lots of people who buy lots of tickets winning these prizes. I was under the impression that the more

tickets you buy, the higher your chance to win the bigger prizes or any of the prizes for that matter... but the results of almost all the draws reflect the opposite. hmmmm....  Huh

That's true of course but(i'm considering the latest round) when you have a total of 11m of tickets also if you have 90k(the person that won the 4th prize) tickets you still have only less than 1% of probability to win the first prize.


We get a lot of emails about this but people don't realize that because the tickets are picked randomly, even buying 100k tickets only increases the chance of winning and does in no way guarantee a prize. It's the same as any other lottery - even if you buy 100k tickets in the Euro millions for example, there is a very big chance that you would not win anything. 100k tickets is less than a 1% chance of winning.

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November 02, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
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Im using this site since it started, never had any issue with it, what the heck ?
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Im using this site since it started, never had any issue with it, what the heck ?

Can you tell me what your user id is? It's the number in your referral link.

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November 02, 2015, 06:28:46 AM
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Im using this site since it started, never had any issue with it, what the heck ?

this can be only if you are using tor browser cuz tor have issues with most of btc or any other coin sites.
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November 02, 2015, 07:42:57 AM
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The weird thing about the draws are the results. People who buy the least tickets win the most money. Only one or two people who spend a lot of money buying lottery tickets won

any of the Jackpot prizes. It should be the other way around... there should be lots of people who buy lots of tickets winning these prizes. I was under the impression that the more

tickets you buy, the higher your chance to win the bigger prizes or any of the prizes for that matter... but the results of almost all the draws reflect the opposite. hmmmm....  Huh

That's true of course but(i'm considering the latest round) when you have a total of 11m of tickets also if you have 90k(the person that won the 4th prize) tickets you still have only less than 1% of probability to win the first prize.


We get a lot of emails about this but people don't realize that because the tickets are picked randomly, even buying 100k tickets only increases the chance of winning and does in no way guarantee a prize. It's the same as any other lottery - even if you buy 100k tickets in the Euro millions for example, there is a very big chance that you would not win anything. 100k tickets is less than a 1% chance of winning.

I just need some clarity as to in what way'tickets are picked randomly' please....Do these collected tickets have specific numbers assigned to them?
Thanks

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November 02, 2015, 08:03:05 AM
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Let me try to explain how it works using the code that is used in perl to select the winners. There is a database table created for every active round containing the user id's and the corresponding number of tickets they have in that round. Then once the round ends, 2 arrays are created - @userids containing all the user id's and @tickets containing all the tickets. This is done by going through the table record by record and using the following code:

Code:
my $user_tickets = $db->SelectARef("SELECT userid, tickets FROM lottery_active_tickets WHERE round=?", $current_round);
foreach (@$user_tickets)
{
push @userids, $_->{userid};
push @tickets, $_->{tickets};
}

Then after these 2 arrays are created, the following code is used to pick the winners:

Code:
my @winners = ();
my @winner_tickets = ();
for (my $i=0; $i<10; $i++)
{
my $total = sum @tickets;
my $rand = int rand $total;
my $selected = 0;
my $limit = $tickets[$selected];
while ($rand >= $limit)
{
$selected++;
$limit += $tickets[$selected];
}
push @winners, $userids[$selected];
push @winner_tickets, $tickets[$selected];
my $removed_userid = splice @userids, $selected, 1;
my $removed_tickets = splice @tickets, $selected, 1;
}

Once a winner is picked, their userid and tickets are removed from the arrays and the loop above is run again to pick the next winner until all 10 have been picked.

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November 02, 2015, 08:26:35 AM
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Let me try to explain how it works using the code that is used in perl to select the winners. There is a database table created for every active round containing the user id's and the corresponding number of tickets they have in that round. Then once the round ends, 2 arrays are created - @userids containing all the user id's and @tickets containing all the tickets. This is done by going through the table record by record and using the following code:

Code:
my $user_tickets = $db->SelectARef("SELECT userid, tickets FROM lottery_active_tickets WHERE round=?", $current_round);
foreach (@$user_tickets)
{
push @userids, $_->{userid};
push @tickets, $_->{tickets};
}

Then after these 2 arrays are created, the following code is used to pick the winners:

Code:
my @winners = ();
my @winner_tickets = ();
for (my $i=0; $i<10; $i++)
{
my $total = sum @tickets;
my $rand = int rand $total;
my $selected = 0;
my $limit = $tickets[$selected];
while ($rand >= $limit)
{
$selected++;
$limit += $tickets[$selected];
}
push @winners, $userids[$selected];
push @winner_tickets, $tickets[$selected];
my $removed_userid = splice @userids, $selected, 1;
my $removed_tickets = splice @tickets, $selected, 1;
}

Once a winner is picked, their userid and tickets are removed from the arrays and the loop above is run again to pick the next winner until all 10 have been picked.
Thanks for the clarification.I thought its like usual raffle tickets with specific numbers.

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November 02, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
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Congratulations to the lucky winners Smiley


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November 02, 2015, 02:49:16 PM
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Congratulations to the lucky winners Smiley



bring out the champagne. congrats to the winners.

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November 02, 2015, 05:31:06 PM
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Congratulations to the lucky winners Smiley



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I am fine with that, and the code being posted... the question with most of these Lottery games are... How can we be 100% sure that it's that code being used, when the

winners are drawn. You could have a valid and legit code, used for proof and a separate manual method to select the winners you pre selected? This is how most rigged lottery

systems work. There is no verification for the users that the winners are drawn from the same code, they give as proof. I am not saying you are doing the same, because you

have a lot to lose, and the 1 to 2 BTC you would score from this in comparison to your total profit you get from this faucet, is but a mere drop in the pond. I would not risk

losing my reputation and a great profit from the site, over a rigged lottery.  Roll Eyes Have you thought of any method to verify winners?  Something similar to the way you prove the

PROVABLY FAIR HI-LO game or asking some reputable person or company to verify it?

B.t.w congratulations on reaching the 7 BTC mark from donations from this faucet. It's awesome what you doing.  Wink

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November 03, 2015, 06:31:49 PM
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I am fine with that, and the code being posted... the question with most of these Lottery games are... How can we be 100% sure that it's that code being used, when the

winners are drawn. You could have a valid and legit code, used for proof and a separate manual method to select the winners you pre selected? This is how most rigged lottery

systems work. There is no verification for the users that the winners are drawn from the same code, they give as proof. I am not saying you are doing the same, because you

have a lot to lose, and the 1 to 2 BTC you would score from this in comparison to your total profit you get from this faucet, is but a mere drop in the pond. I would not risk

losing my reputation and a great profit from the site, over a rigged lottery.  Roll Eyes Have you thought of any method to verify winners?  Something similar to the way you prove the

PROVABLY FAIR HI-LO game or asking some reputable person or company to verify it?

B.t.w congratulations on reaching the 7 BTC mark from donations from this faucet. It's awesome what you doing.  Wink

I understand the concern and would actually like to put in a provably fair system in place because many users have the same concern with the lottery. That being said, I still haven't figured out a way to make it provably fair because the total number of tickets changes every week. If the total was fixed, winning numbers could be pre-selected and hashed before the round starts to make it fair. However, in the current state I do not have any ideas for making it provably fair but am always open to suggestions.

Only other way would be to have a lotto type of system where the users select 6 numbers but there are many referrers who haven't logged into their account for over a year but are still getting paid and accumulating tickets in each round. It would be unfair to ask such users to have to log in every week.

Also 95%+ of the tickets in each round are given out for free to users for free plays and referrals so the prizes for each round mostly come out of my pocket. So there isn't anything that I could gain by rigging the system because it's not like the lottery actually makes any money. It's just a bonus to encourage users to keep playing.

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November 03, 2015, 10:08:23 PM
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Also 95%+ of the tickets in each round are given out for free to users for free plays and referrals so the prizes for each round mostly come out of my pocket. So there isn't anything that I could gain by rigging the system because it's not like the lottery actually makes any money. It's just a bonus to encourage users to keep playing.

Just leave it as it is. 99% probably wouldn't even notice the 'provably fair' option if there was one.

As you said, earnings comes from your own pocket* and lottery is an extra option, so there's no real reason for it to be provably fair. I wouldn't worry about that, unless someone proposes a doable solution (where's Dooglus when you need him  Wink )

* Mostly out of your pocket. IIRC, it's possible for someone to deposit his own funds and use them to buy tickets (I'm guessing that doesn't happen very often). For that reason it would be good if lottery was provably fair.

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November 04, 2015, 06:01:29 PM
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I am fine with that, and the code being posted... the question with most of these Lottery games are... How can we be 100% sure that it's that code being used, when the

winners are drawn. You could have a valid and legit code, used for proof and a separate manual method to select the winners you pre selected? This is how most rigged lottery

systems work. There is no verification for the users that the winners are drawn from the same code, they give as proof. I am not saying you are doing the same, because you

have a lot to lose, and the 1 to 2 BTC you would score from this in comparison to your total profit you get from this faucet, is but a mere drop in the pond. I would not risk

losing my reputation and a great profit from the site, over a rigged lottery.  Roll Eyes Have you thought of any method to verify winners?  Something similar to the way you prove the

PROVABLY FAIR HI-LO game or asking some reputable person or company to verify it?

B.t.w congratulations on reaching the 7 BTC mark from donations from this faucet. It's awesome what you doing.  Wink

I understand the concern and would actually like to put in a provably fair system in place because many users have the same concern with the lottery. That being said, I still haven't figured out a way to make it provably fair because the total number of tickets changes every week. If the total was fixed, winning numbers could be pre-selected and hashed before the round starts to make it fair. However, in the current state I do not have any ideas for making it provably fair but am always open to suggestions.

Only other way would be to have a lotto type of system where the users select 6 numbers but there are many referrers who haven't logged into their account for over a year but are still getting paid and accumulating tickets in each round. It would be unfair to ask such users to have to log in every week.

Also 95%+ of the tickets in each round are given out for free to users for free plays and referrals so the prizes for each round mostly come out of my pocket. So there isn't anything that I could gain by rigging the system because it's not like the lottery actually makes any money. It's just a bonus to encourage users to keep playing.

Even though you say, it's from your own pocket... It still money being paid to you from advertisers on your site. This income would not have been possible if the site traffic

were low. The users have a option to either take the money or to dump it back into the lottery. I would be glad to buy loads of tickets with my own BTC, if proof can be

given that it 100% provably fair. The Lottery proof will bring even more visits to your site and more traffic = more advertisement income. I can also see that it's more

complex than what I initially thought it would be. In my opinion idle or inactive users should not receive rewards from the lottery, and loyal active users should rather be

the people receiving these prizes to encourage them to stay active. If you want to incentivize idle users to become active, rather have a separate smaller lottery or reserve

the smaller prizes for the people with the lowest ticket totals.  Wink

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I think,if possible,the tickets with some assigned numbers are used for selection and the players with those tickets in possession to be the winners to make it a real ticket based lottery.

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Why not change the lottery to a number game? Make the lottery tickets slightly more expensive {Let's say for instance = to 8 x daily faucet rewards} You could then have the

system generate numbers for each ticket, and it would be displayed to the user on his profile. The people would need to visit the faucet 8 times per day to buy 1 lottery ticket to be

able to enter the round. {This would increase the visits to the site} The lottery numbers are fed into a single pool and 10 are drawn. This way, players can visually see that they

have been entered into the draw. {Logs could be placed online of all the qualifying numbers entered into the draw} This is a bit more transparent... hope my suggestion makes sense.  Huh

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Sorry for the late reply, I was not getting notifications for this topic.

I don't think people would like it if they were asked to play 8 times to get a ticket, I would get a whole bunch of emails regarding that.

The ticket numbering system is something that I had though of earlier as well but it would not hep in any way to make the game provably fair. I could just as easily pick the winning number to be a ticket of someone who I would like to win. The number picking cannot be made provably fair even here due to the variable number of tickets in each round.

Making the game provably fair is certainly possible I think, just that I haven't figured out how yet. I am a bit busy with stuff now but I shall have more time in a couple of weeks to think about it and maybe I will be able to figure it out then.

Why not change the lottery to a number game? Make the lottery tickets slightly more expensive {Let's say for instance = to 8 x daily faucet rewards} You could then have the

system generate numbers for each ticket, and it would be displayed to the user on his profile. The people would need to visit the faucet 8 times per day to buy 1 lottery ticket to be

able to enter the round. {This would increase the visits to the site} The lottery numbers are fed into a single pool and 10 are drawn. This way, players can visually see that they

have been entered into the draw. {Logs could be placed online of all the qualifying numbers entered into the draw} This is a bit more transparent... hope my suggestion makes sense.  Huh

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November 16, 2015, 06:35:46 AM
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Why not change the lottery to a number game? Make the lottery tickets slightly more expensive {Let's say for instance = to 8 x daily faucet rewards} You could then have the

system generate numbers for each ticket, and it would be displayed to the user on his profile. The people would need to visit the faucet 8 times per day to buy 1 lottery ticket to be

able to enter the round. {This would increase the visits to the site} The lottery numbers are fed into a single pool and 10 are drawn. This way, players can visually see that they

have been entered into the draw. {Logs could be placed online of all the qualifying numbers entered into the draw} This is a bit more transparent... hope my suggestion makes sense.  Huh

support your idea and think that will be good for site too
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