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January 01, 2020, 05:32:37 AM |
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--How many people hit that 10,000 in a day? Would love to have that statistic in the stats section. --How many people hit that 8888 in a day? --Does Multiply BTC and Free BTC both using the same algorithm to draw a number?
On the stats page, there's a nice little graph that shows the number of bets daily: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZUdNMNG.png&t=665&c=CkYjSE0HY_jdxQ) There's a 0.005% chance of hitting 10000, so we can infer that 3150 bets hit the 10000 roll that day (give or take a few with variance). Same can be done with 8888, which is a 0.01% chance. Roughly 6300 people would have rolled an 8888, though I bet maybe one or two bets would have been playing for the jackpot. The chart likely includes both free rolls and bets so 3150 people didn't win $200, but there were many people who rolled a 10000. There's not much point in adding it to the stats section as it doesn't really give any more information that you don't already have imo. Multiply BTC and Free BTC use the same algorithm, but seem to have different client seeds by default (?) and use the same nonces
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January 01, 2020, 06:04:50 AM |
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Multiply BTC and Free BTC use the same algorithm, but seem to have different client seeds by default (?) and use the same nonces
They do use the same client seed but you generate a new one when you reload the page which also happens by default when the free roll timer runs out unless you check the DO NOT REFRESH box on auto bet. You're right about the rest of it. It is exactly the same mechanism for free rolls and multiply BTC and they all go into the same database so that total number of plays chart shows all of them.
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January 02, 2020, 06:51:02 AM |
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We now know which team won the bet, the 5000 got all of the prize because we are in 2020 now and didn't moved above 7500 at all during the last day as well.
About the free roll thing, someone once mentioned that it is "free" and why would anyone care how much free money they get but I think this portion is viable to question, I mean "how many people get that 200 dollars every day" is not a complaint but more like curiosity and I can dig that, around 3k people (give or take a bit on variance) gets 200 dollars per day which means on free rolls freebitco.in gives out around 600k per day just for the free claims that get 10k? That is a looooooot of money, I mean the 600k is on average what the 200 dollar people get, there is on top of that all the rest so they must be giving out over a million dollars per day, that is a ton of money.
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January 02, 2020, 07:02:48 AM |
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~around 3k people (give or take a bit on variance) gets 200 dollars per day~
You missed the bit about the total number of rolls including Multiply BTC. You only get 1 free roll per hour but auto-bet will do 3 rolls a second.
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January 02, 2020, 07:19:57 AM |
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About the free roll thing, someone once mentioned that it is "free" and why would anyone care how much free money they get but I think this portion is viable to question, I mean "how many people get that 200 dollars every day" is not a complaint but more like curiosity and I can dig that, around 3k people (give or take a bit on variance) gets 200 dollars per day which means on free rolls freebitco.in gives out around 600k per day just for the free claims that get 10k? That is a looooooot of money, I mean the 600k is on average what the 200 dollar people get, there is on top of that all the rest so they must be giving out over a million dollars per day, that is a ton of money.
I love how you read about half of my post, but didn't like it enough to read the other half ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The chart likely includes both free rolls and bets so 3150 people didn't win $200, but there were many people who rolled a 10000.
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January 02, 2020, 09:22:29 AM |
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So i still cannot understand if this faucet is profitable. I believe that those who are making profits are due to the referrals they share and not due to rolls. Am I right? So I want to ask if you don't have any referrals is there a way to get some money from it?
There are three ways to profit. 1) Referrals 2) Gamble 3) Time on free rolls Any combination is better, but still its more ideal of you've more referrals. Well free rolls give pennies so I don't think that it is worth spending so much time on that. I like the betting section as it is also fun apart from the fact that it gives you the chance to get some profit. Referrals are the most profitable way to make a profit but still it is hard to spread your referral around.
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January 02, 2020, 10:56:24 AM |
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Well free rolls give pennies so I don't think that it is worth spending so much time on that. I like the betting section as it is also fun apart from the fact that it gives you the chance to get some profit. Referrals are the most profitable way to make a profit but still it is hard to spread your referral around.
True, its best if you start playing multiply before relying on Free rolls. Based on my constant activity, I can net around 20 - 30 grand+ worth of Sats a week with some referral earnings.
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January 02, 2020, 11:13:14 AM |
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Multiply BTC and Free BTC use the same algorithm, but seem to have different client seeds by default (?) and use the same nonces
They do use the same client seed but you generate a new one when you reload the page which also happens by default when the free roll timer runs out unless you check the DO NOT REFRESH box on auto bet. You're right about the rest of it. It is exactly the same mechanism for free rolls and multiply BTC and they all go into the same database so that total number of plays chart shows all of them. I chose / checked the option in the box "do not update" in automatic bet and when updating the site and I will check the option is unchecked .. how do I save this option "do not refresh(?)" and keep checked after updating the site? .. I wish it didn't update ... but even if I check when I update and come back to check this option is unchecked ....
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January 02, 2020, 11:36:08 AM |
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So i still cannot understand if this faucet is profitable. I believe that those who are making profits are due to the referrals they share and not due to rolls. Am I right? So I want to ask if you don't have any referrals is there a way to get some money from it?
There are three ways to profit. 1) Referrals 2) Gamble 3) Time on free rolls Any combination is better, but still its more ideal of you've more referrals. And Naida, you've been here long enough to get it. If you still don't then you're really not learning much:) Faucet is profitable because it's free. Pretty simple. No risk at all, and you get free satoshi, free reward points, and free lottery tickets that could even give you a chance to win more. I remember some guy won big from only 2 free lotteries (given from a freeroll). Also not mentioned is the interest you earn automatically every day for balances of 30k satoshi or more. You don't have to do anything, just keep money there and you get interest every day. Enough answers for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 02, 2020, 04:20:36 PM |
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--snip
I love how you read about half of my post, but didn't like it enough to read the other half ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The chart likely includes both free rolls and bets so 3150 people didn't win $200, but there were many people who rolled a 10000.
Oh sorry, so it is all of them combined, that means a lot less 200 dollar giveaway ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Still looking at the data, I am pretty sure there is at least one person that wins that 200 dollar every single day, it can't be all multiply part (well it can be, but I just hope it is not) and that shows that every single day we have a chance to be that person to actually claim that 200 dollars. In any case it is cool to see the numbers and how much is played here, I don't know the difference between how many people gamble and how many people claim if that number is just the total but if we could separate the two and just look at what the claims are in numbers we could actually see what the average faucet giveaway is, is there any data to show how many people just claim the free faucet part?
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Just feel some serious shock as on first sight I feel I won 200$ but as I check again its just touching and I have nothing ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5rtqNm9.png%3F1&t=665&c=O6rp7Y3Sw1eRtg)
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And Naida, you've been here long enough to get it. If you still don't then you're really not learning much:) Enough answers for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Faucet is profitable because it's free. Pretty simple. No risk at all, and you get free satoshi, free reward points, and free lottery tickets that could even give you a chance to win more. I remember some guy won big from only 2 free lotteries (given from a freeroll). Also not mentioned is the interest you earn automatically every day for balances of 30k satoshi or more. You don't have to do anything, just keep money there and you get interest every day. Enough answers for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So you think your response to that user is profitable in a wise way because of that "no risk" and "free"? That user is not asking on about ways but how those ways became profitable. Don't say to other people that they are not learning much if you will respond YES to my question. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 02, 2020, 11:36:36 PM |
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Oh yea I called it right on year end sub 7500, minor genius or just lucky but not clever enough to spy out the bet and put something on in time. Was too busy ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) In the end it couldnt really be 7000 either as this is very close to a trend so unlikely a settle point. I cant call the 2020 price but could just bet on it going sideways in total. The multiplier is 57x now so thats a pretty large incentive vs my idea to place last minute bet. I check again its just touching and I have nothing I feel the pain ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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And Naida, you've been here long enough to get it. If you still don't then you're really not learning much:) Enough answers for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Faucet is profitable because it's free. Pretty simple. No risk at all, and you get free satoshi, free reward points, and free lottery tickets that could even give you a chance to win more. I remember some guy won big from only 2 free lotteries (given from a freeroll). Also not mentioned is the interest you earn automatically every day for balances of 30k satoshi or more. You don't have to do anything, just keep money there and you get interest every day. Enough answers for you? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So you think your response to that user is profitable in a wise way because of that "no risk" and "free"? That user is not asking on about ways but how those ways became profitable. Don't say to other people that they are not learning much if you will respond YES to my question. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is seriously used to be a website for people who want to get into bitcoin and not for people who are super wealthy, nowadays they changed so much that even whales have a HUGE potential of being here and profiting from here. Surely they won't care about the faucet, that is for the poor folks like us and we still use it, reward points are something we just hope and wish because they are giving away a lot of things but with the amount of reward points we get we are lucky if we could ever claim ledger nano s let alone anything bigger. However, that 4% changed soooo much, like if you are a wealthy person with a lot of bitcoins, it is better to get 4% for your bitcoins interest than zero, sure it can go down or up but it will do that wherever it is su while you are "hodling" it is better to keep it here as well.
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January 04, 2020, 11:08:14 AM |
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So you think your response to that user is profitable in a wise way because of that "no risk" and "free"? That user is not asking on about ways but how those ways became profitable. Don't say to other people that they are not learning much if you will respond YES to my question. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I stated some facts, and as usual, people will always interpret facts the way they want, just as you are now. I will apologize if you're offended by answers and posts that actually contain helpful information. Context: Naida is a user who posts all over the gambling forums with maybe half of the posts really not making sense, often even posts wrong names and games in football and sports, which makes me suspect they're just posting things they don't understand well, or don't read posts well before they ask things.
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January 04, 2020, 11:10:58 AM |
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Oh yea I called it right on year end sub 7500, minor genius or just lucky but not clever enough to spy out the bet and put something on in time. Was too busy ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) In the end it couldnt really be 7000 either as this is very close to a trend so unlikely a settle point. I cant call the 2020 price but could just bet on it going sideways in total. The multiplier is 57x now so thats a pretty large incentive vs my idea to place last minute bet. ~ I lost my bet on BITCOIN PRICE 2019 because I was betting on $7,500, and it appeared that the winner was $5,000. But I'm not going to give up on this one, and I already bet on $50,000 at midnight of the 31st of December 2020. What amazes me is how many people bet on $1 million. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FORoxoZr.png&t=665&c=Wqg8s4piPKMekg) I love you, guys! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I admire your optimism, and I sincerely wish you to win your bets! I'm sure everyone here would agree with me. Seriously, guys, we all want them to win, right?
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January 04, 2020, 03:02:18 PM |
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What amazes me is how many people bet on $1 million. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FORoxoZr.png&t=665&c=Wqg8s4piPKMekg) One of them must be McAfee. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Hi guys, seems freebitco is still leading website and rewards aren't small at all but I have some questions that I didn't understand. Website says that there is Bonus +0.00000378BTC added to all rewards but still I get basic 0.00000405 BTC payout in each roll. Also it states: 1. increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000513 BTC 2. 57.3814% achieved towards the next +0.00000027 BTC bonus! I didn't understand why I don't get this rewards and is there any bar that fills to understand whether my lottery bought increases freeroll rewards? Since it states that Bonus +0.00000378BTC is added to all rewards, why don't I get that?
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January 04, 2020, 03:13:35 PM |
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Hi guys, seems freebitco is still leading website and rewards aren't small at all but I have some questions that I didn't understand. Website says that there is Bonus +0.00000378BTC added to all rewards but still I get basic 0.00000405 BTC payout in each roll. Also it states: 1. increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000513 BTC 2. 57.3814% achieved towards the next +0.00000027 BTC bonus! I didn't understand why I don't get this rewards and is there any bar that fills to understand whether my lottery bought increases freeroll rewards? Since it states that Bonus +0.00000378BTC is added to all rewards, why don't I get that?
Because the base is 27. 27+378=405 Regular free-roll basic reward is 27satoshi, so if you get 405 while free-roll, your reward was boosted as promised. Hope it helps.
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hosseinimr93
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January 04, 2020, 03:36:03 PM |
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Hi guys, seems freebitco is still leading website and rewards aren't small at all but I have some questions that I didn't understand. Website says that there is Bonus +0.00000378BTC added to all rewards but still I get basic 0.00000405 BTC payout in each roll.
As, poptok1 said, the base reward is 27 satoshi. I guess you thought the base is 405 and you expected to get 378+405 in each roll. No, the base is 27 and 405 satoshi which you are getting is the base+reward. The base reward is fixed at 0.002 dollar. So, the amount you get is always changing according to BTC/dollar rate. is there any bar that fills to understand whether my lottery bought increases freeroll rewards?
No, there isn't such a thing for showing how much you should wager or how many tickets you should buy to increase your reward.
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