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November 10, 2019, 11:27:02 AM
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When I go into My expired bets from a phone I can’t see them, but on my laptop this history is visible. It is strange I don’t know what this is connected with, but instead of the history with past events there a proposal to play Bitcoin multiplication.
Did you know that your faucet can be abused by using VPN? I forgot that I had it turned on, went to the freebtc and there is no countdown, I can request 22 satoshi again.

Are you sure you didn't just accidentally create a new account on your phone?


That's what I thought too. They have two different accounts, one on their laptop and another one on their phone.
Besides, it's hardly possible to succeed in abusing the faucet by using VPN. They can make some amount of claims this way, but when it comes to withdrawing, you bust the abusers, even though they were making claims from different IPs. Am I right? That's why we have the scammers here complaining that they can't withdraw their funds from FreeBitco.in.

But I'm not trying to say that Battareus here is a scammer. Most likely he indeed created his another account on phone accidentally.

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November 10, 2019, 01:58:16 PM
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When I go into My expired bets from a phone I can’t see them, but on my laptop this history is visible. It is strange I don’t know what this is connected with, but instead of the history with past events there a proposal to play Bitcoin multiplication.
Did you know that your faucet can be abused by using VPN? I forgot that I had it turned on, went to the freebtc and there is no countdown, I can request 22 satoshi again.

Are you sure you didn't just accidentally create a new account on your phone?


That's what I thought too. They have two different accounts, one on their laptop and another one on their phone.
Besides, it's hardly possible to succeed in abusing the faucet by using VPN. They can make some amount of claims this way, but when it comes to withdrawing, you bust the abusers, even though they were making claims from different IPs. Am I right? That's why we have the scammers here complaining that they can't withdraw their funds from FreeBitco.in.

But I'm not trying to say that Battareus here is a scammer. Most likely he indeed created his another account on phone accidentally.

No, It happened to me too. Read above. He is telling the truth. But somehow my situation got fixed and I can see my expired bets now. VPN option is not necessarily used by scammers. Sometimes these kind of websites get blocked in various countries so offering a way to play via VPN is very nice of freebitco.in




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November 10, 2019, 04:48:32 PM
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There are literally bots that used to abuse the faucet, sure there is some prevention and I am sure there used to be a lot more and there are less right now (which is something we can't really calculate because if they are any good freebitcoin will not feel it, if they are bad freebitcoin will ban it).

However, back in the day we all know there were bots that literally changed IP for each account and literally had 50+ accounts all claiming faucet together 24 times a day (or if they are any smart 15-18 times a day) and made a ton of money from the faucet. Thankfully the "white hacking" or basically how to stop bots are better in technology and I hope freebitcoin doesn't have too much abusers but that doesn't mean they existed back in the day that ruined the profits of freebitcoin.

 
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November 10, 2019, 05:25:06 PM
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There are literally bots that used to abuse the faucet, sure there is some prevention and I am sure there used to be a lot more and there are less right now (which is something we can't really calculate because if they are any good freebitcoin will not feel it, if they are bad freebitcoin will ban it).
For getting faucet, you should pass the captcha. I don't think bots are able to pass captcha. So, abusing the system is not as easy as you think.

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November 10, 2019, 09:18:30 PM
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For getting faucet, you should pass the captcha. I don't think bots are able to pass captcha. So, abusing the system is not as easy as you think.
This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%




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November 11, 2019, 02:35:05 AM
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Why don't you adding more sporting events like hockey or basketball? At the moment there are the few events that will end soon, wait 3-10 days for the new is too long. The closest game is cricket in 3 days, I do not understand this game and will have to wait for football.
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November 11, 2019, 02:43:53 AM
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This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Sadly they had to shut down freedogecoin because of this.

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November 11, 2019, 03:24:07 AM
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This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Sadly they had to shut down freedogecoin because of this.

Beside the abusing of free dogecoin, they key issue is that it doesn't have those wagering bonuses and there is variable betsize (binded into DOGE/BTC price) as well as limited MAX win there, 800,000 DOGE by the last time visited the site. I once tried to write a dicing bot for it, but risk/reward ratio is not as expected (for the same strategy, a specified balance can't survive as long as if it is converted to BTC and played in the main site) as well as minimum bet size keep changing throughout the day (0.026 -> 0.03). If they are to make it interesting for gamblers and fixed the minimum betsize & max win, they can easily get out with profit regardless of abusers.
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November 11, 2019, 03:59:49 AM
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Beside the abusing of free dogecoin, they key issue is that it doesn't have those wagering bonuses and there is variable betsize (binded into DOGE/BTC price) as well as limited MAX win there, 800,000 DOGE by the last time visited the site. I once tried to write a dicing bot for it, but risk/reward ratio is not as expected (for the same strategy, a specified balance can't survive as long as if it is converted to BTC and played in the main site) as well as minimum bet size keep changing throughout the day (0.026 -> 0.03). If they are to make it interesting for gamblers and fixed the minimum betsize & max win, they can easily get out with profit regardless of abusers.

The issues with Doge are the amount of time it takes to fight abuse. It's a labour-intensive task and the profits didn't justify the costs. The other limiting factor is the Doge core software. It hasn't been maintained and updated as the Bitcoin core software has. That means that our node struggled to deal with the volume of transactions we were doing making it frequently lag the network causing support issues. If we had done anything to try and increase the volume on the site that would have just got worse.

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For getting faucet, you should pass the captcha. I don't think bots are able to pass captcha. So, abusing the system is not as easy as you think.
This is what person not very familiar with faucets will say. All faucets have captcha, but they are struggling to fight with bots. These abusers are smarter than many of you may think. I don't know how exactly they are doing this dirty job, but captcha isn't always a problem. Faucet owners (including Freebitco.in) must add much more security features and it still can't protect faucet 100%

Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

How does the casino faucet abuse happen? It's because it's actually humans that solve the captcha for the bots.

Due to low wages in certain countries there are people who are solving captcha's for $0.50-$1.00/hr and the solved captcha is sent to the bots which abuse the faucet in the casino.

Hence this is why so many casino operators just removed the faucet all together or decreased it to a very small amount like 10 sats which wouldn't be worth the hassle to abuse.

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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

I wish that was true but unfortunately, Google have shot their own reCaptcha to pieces by pioneering picture recognition technology. There are still a lot 3rd world captcha solving farms using humans but the more sophisticated bots can solve them automatically.
Captcha is only an obstacle to small scale amateur abusers.

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November 11, 2019, 06:14:45 AM
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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

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November 11, 2019, 06:29:03 AM
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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

I wish that was true but unfortunately, Google have shot their own reCaptcha to pieces by pioneering picture recognition technology. There are still a lot 3rd world captcha solving farms using humans but the more sophisticated bots can solve them automatically.
Captcha is only an obstacle to small scale amateur abusers.

Are you guys using reCAPTCHA v3? If so, how does it fare comparing to v2?

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November 11, 2019, 07:10:34 AM
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Are you guys using reCAPTCHA v3? If so, how does it fare comparing to v2?

Yes. It's completely different as it doesn't give a challenge. Google just give a score based on their risk assessment. It isn't accurate enough to be much use.

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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

 
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Today I have found additional 1000 satoshi at my balance as I understand it is some kind of bonus? How to determine where it came from? Searches for Dice history (because the last games I did with high risk), lottery tickets and so on do not help. It would be nice to have a section where you can see all the operations of receipt and flow.
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November 11, 2019, 03:18:56 PM
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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

Maybe it's not. I think it is very likely that the very people who were writing scripts for you were cleaning out your faucets later. You shouldn't hire random people for that kind of job. They should be either your close friends or people who are working for a very well known and reputable company. And the latter option is much more preferable, imo. Also, being not a coder, after the script is done, I would give it to a third party to check it for backdoors. But that's what I'd do if I weren't aware of freebitco.in's existence. I think the easiest way to get a good faucet script is to ask TheQuin, who were the people that wrote script for them, and order it from the same place.


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I was going to say if computers cannot solve the picture recognition thing then machine learning and all that stuff is not as advanced as I thought it had got to.  Not that I think scammers are using cutting edge technology but it usually relates some.
  One day they'll reach a point where it'll break my old .rar file password  Tongue   The full ascii range and possible 12 characters I guess might need that new quantum computer.
The only big faucet I've seen recently would be in brand new alt coins and thats because they want users just like BTC did all those years ago.   The possibility to pass from one extreme to the other was enough to buy a Lambo at one point when done over years, collecting a coin at its cheapest and selling at its highest.  ETH mining was ridiculous if somehow it was done perfectly, part of history now.

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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

I was a forum moderator for a popular Bitcoin forum where people got paid for activity and it was a endless task to stop these bots. In the end,

we had to stop the automatic payment option and we had to implement a internal database that needed manual verification process to grant

approval of all the withdrawals to manage this risk. It became too time consuming to do this manually, so we stopped the "paid to post" option.

I take my hat off to sites that has to go through all this effort to automate payment/faucet options and to battle all these bots on a daily basis.

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November 11, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
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Actually captcha these days is nearly full proof. Bots can't select street lights or click on buses in the captcha photos. The captcha of 2005 was easy to defeat which was just a simple 4-6 letter captcha but these days it's full proof.

If you're on a "clean" IP address, you can also use the audio captcha solver buster, which is a browser extension that feeds the audio challenge back into Google's own speech recognition software. Captcha has gotten more advanced, but so have the tools used to solve them. It's an endless arms race.

Once I had my own faucets and gave up running them just because of the endless fight with continuous modernization of security. About once every two weeks, someone was cleaning the faucet's address. Not only the captcha was bypassed. Hackers found ways to bypass waiting time, they was finding some backdoors in script. Something new every time. I just lost my patience.
Ps. On other hand, I'm not a programmer, so I used other people's scripts. At one point I was almost sure that people were writing scripts for faucets with backdoors, only to steal from them later. But that is other story..

Running a faucet, exchange, online casino... etc is serious business.

People see all these casinos/exchanges like freebitco.in, primedice, binance making lots of money but there is a reason for that. Not everybody can do it. If it was that easy, then everybody would do it and nobody would make any money. Supply and demand as always.

In your situation though... running a free script? These people put them there just so they can hack your business later. You either code it yourself or hire someone for the job. Either way it is never easy or cheap.




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