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February 12, 2014, 11:10:10 AM
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Indeed there are.  I fancy the challenge of etching my own for a small number of prototypes. 

If there's enough interest then I'd get a bigger batch made up.  I see there is one UK based company who actually has the work done in China or Singapore.  From memory they worked out to about £3 per NF board if you were ordering a few hundred I think.

For me the only doubt I would have would be supplying the right files for a commercial production run out of the KiCad design.

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I looked at the NF rev7 and eventually came to the same decision as you.(It becomes a big investment risk to go commercial)

The prototype would have been interesting though.

If you do go ahead please keep posting.

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February 18, 2014, 08:47:27 AM
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Indeed there are.  I fancy the challenge of etching my own for a small number of prototypes. 

If there's enough interest then I'd get a bigger batch made up.  I see there is one UK based company who actually has the work done in China or Singapore.  From memory they worked out to about £3 per NF board if you were ordering a few hundred I think.

For me the only doubt I would have would be supplying the right files for a commercial production run out of the KiCad design.

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I looked at the NF rev7 and eventually came to the same decision as you.(It becomes a big investment risk to go commercial)

The prototype would have been interesting though.

If you do go ahead please keep posting.

DYI/making your own miners is always the most fun Smiley
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I got a bit lazy with v2 - there is one track on the back Smiley
I already got an idea on how to take care of that (in version 4 .. if we make it that far at all.. as that's going to be pretty much the only improvement and I'm not sure it's worth the hassle)

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February 18, 2014, 08:52:59 AM
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser Smiley  :

Code:
bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [  6 days 00:29:45]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options
Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user ****
Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471  Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s)  Started: [00:41:51]
ST:13  F:5  NB:1069  AS:0  BW:[268/ 59 B/s]  E:38.92  I:  180uBTC/hr  BS:29.1M
7/11         | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFY 0:       |  2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50%
NFY 1:       |  2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76%
NFY 2:       |  2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83%
NFY 3:       |  5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85%
NFY 4:       |  4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2%
NFY 5:       |  4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87%
NFY 6:       |  4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1  Diff 1.57k/16

for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which Smiley

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February 18, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser Smiley  :

Code:
bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [  6 days 00:29:45]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options
Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user ****
Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471  Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s)  Started: [00:41:51]
ST:13  F:5  NB:1069  AS:0  BW:[268/ 59 B/s]  E:38.92  I:  180uBTC/hr  BS:29.1M
7/11         | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFY 0:       |  2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50%
NFY 1:       |  2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76%
NFY 2:       |  2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83%
NFY 3:       |  5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85%
NFY 4:       |  4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2%
NFY 5:       |  4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87%
NFY 6:       |  4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1  Diff 1.57k/16

for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which Smiley

so the NFY driver works without mods?

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February 18, 2014, 05:12:35 PM
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser Smiley  :

Code:
bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [  6 days 00:29:45]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options
Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user ****
Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471  Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s)  Started: [00:41:51]
ST:13  F:5  NB:1069  AS:0  BW:[268/ 59 B/s]  E:38.92  I:  180uBTC/hr  BS:29.1M
7/11         | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFY 0:       |  2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50%
NFY 1:       |  2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76%
NFY 2:       |  2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83%
NFY 3:       |  5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85%
NFY 4:       |  4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2%
NFY 5:       |  4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87%
NFY 6:       |  4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1  Diff 1.57k/16

for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which Smiley



The NF2 have 2 chips or 1 and this only lead to maximum performance?
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February 18, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser Smiley  :

Code:
bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [  6 days 00:29:45]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options
Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user ****
Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471  Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s)  Started: [00:41:51]
ST:13  F:5  NB:1069  AS:0  BW:[268/ 59 B/s]  E:38.92  I:  180uBTC/hr  BS:29.1M
7/11         | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFY 0:       |  2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50%
NFY 1:       |  2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76%
NFY 2:       |  2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83%
NFY 3:       |  5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85%
NFY 4:       |  4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2%
NFY 5:       |  4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87%
NFY 6:       |  4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1  Diff 1.57k/16

for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which Smiley
This will wipe out any remaining value in a BFL jally  Roll Eyes

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February 18, 2014, 05:56:27 PM
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BFGMiner git (and therefore the next version) has added support for NF2.

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February 20, 2014, 07:56:38 PM
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The NF2 have 2 chips or 1 and this only lead to maximum performance?
Check out the design / prototype pics a page back.. that plus the informal name 'NanoFury Duo' should be a hint Smiley

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February 20, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
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How much and when?  Roll Eyes

Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser Smiley  :

Code:
bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [  6 days 00:29:45]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options
Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user ****
Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471  Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s)  Started: [00:41:51]
ST:13  F:5  NB:1069  AS:0  BW:[268/ 59 B/s]  E:38.92  I:  180uBTC/hr  BS:29.1M
7/11         | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NFY 0:       |  2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50%
NFY 1:       |  2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76%
NFY 2:       |  2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83%
NFY 3:       |  5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85%
NFY 4:       |  4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2%
NFY 5:       |  4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87%
NFY 6:       |  4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16
[2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1  Diff 1.57k/16

for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which Smiley

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February 21, 2014, 05:53:57 PM
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BitFury chips are due in today and then we will start manufacturing a couple hundred.
We hope to have them out by mid March, but it's a new design.  We don't expect any issues, but there usually are in bitcoin.
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February 22, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.

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February 22, 2014, 09:06:18 AM
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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.

thanks

They don't have a firmware limiting the hashes. All you need is just the oscillator option in bfgminer/cgminer (a.k.a. osc6). Or if you want to do some serious overclocking you may also consider doing a pencil mod to increase the voltage too. Have in mind that in that case you will need to deal with a lot more heat, and obviously provide provide more power.

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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.

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They don't have a firmware limiting the hashes. All you need is just the oscillator option in bfgminer/cgminer (a.k.a. osc6). Or if you want to do some serious overclocking you may also consider doing a pencil mod to increase the voltage too. Have in mind that in that case you will need to deal with a lot more heat, and obviously provide provide more power.

Thanks for responding, I already knew oscillator but the Mod with the pencil do not know, can you give me more information on obtaining more power even endangering miners.
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February 22, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
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Thanks for responding, I already knew oscillator but the Mod with the pencil do not know, can you give me more information on obtaining more power even endangering miners.

Sure - here you go:

@vs3

can you elaborate on the req's to pencil mod the NFY similar to the BF1?

if the voltage setup circuits are anything similar: on BF1

rub graphite pencil across R15 until resistance measured across R15 and R16 is ~0.89Kohm

Yes - the procedure is almost identical - I'll repost what I wrote about that (on Marto74's thread) - let me know if that covers it or I missed anything:

Can you give me instructions for pencil mod?

See this image:


R2 and R3 determine the voltage:
V = 0.8*(R2+R3)/R3
(and factory settings are R2=100 and R3=2.4k for about 0.833V)

If you want to increase the voltage you can either increase R2 or decrease R3 (pencil mod decreases resistance).
And to lower the voltage - you can lower R2 or increase R3.

My 2 cents - start by first lowering the voltage. At least that's the safer option Wink

One clarification - on the early NF1s the voltage was 0.833V, while on the later ones it is 0.86V (R2 is 180 ohms) - it's a bit more stable there, and you also get a bit of a "factory overclock" Smiley

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March 06, 2014, 10:55:55 AM
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Any news on NF2?

I think https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg5480556#msg5480556 is interessting because the new chips need less power. So it should be easier to get two on a usb stick. Because they are pin compatible it should be possible to just put them in?

If anyone needs samples:
http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/bitfury-55nm-rev2-samples/
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March 06, 2014, 11:21:01 AM
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Yup - I've ordered some samples - they're on the way. As soon as I get them I'll be testing them with the NF2 design.

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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2
I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D
How cgminer or bgminer detect  NF1/NF2 ?
are you planning  build more powerfull miner with more chips?

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March 08, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2
I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D
How cgminer or bgminer detect  NF1/NF2 ?
are you planning  build more powerfull miner with more chips?



I'm working on a fork that's something like that.

Making my baby public

https://github.com/Taugeran/NFx

She's nowhere near as elegant as the NF1 or NF2 but that's what revisions are for. When I go home for lunch today I'll push a new commit that has some updates

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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2
I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D
How cgminer or bgminer detect  NF1/NF2 ?
are you planning  build more powerfull miner with more chips?



I'm working on a fork that's something like that.

Making my baby public

https://github.com/Taugeran/NFx

She's nowhere near as elegant as the NF1 or NF2 but that's what revisions are for. When I go home for lunch today I'll push a new commit that has some updates

I do not want high end pcb only working to study and in near future create my own modular miner (not for sale)
Thanx i will study that when you submit updates:)
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March 08, 2014, 08:00:54 PM
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2
I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D
How cgminer or bgminer detect  NF1/NF2 ?
are you planning  build more powerfull miner with more chips?

Hello

bfgminer will detect both.
cgminer as far as I know doesn't detect the NF2 (it detects only first chip so it will essentially behave as a NF1).

I am also working on a USB miner with more chips but that's a bit questionable design as you'll somehow need to provide 5V at 2-3A to the device (which a standard USB port can't do). So, we'll see where that ends.

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