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November 15, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
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Thank u for your open source project

Will be starting making these ones soon (if i got all things i need) and hope to get a working project

:-) Keep up the good work and will support when its all is done




When you open either the schematic or PCB documents KiCAD may want to start with its own libraries. Remove them from the list - the NanoFury project includes a lib folder with all libraries that you may need. Just add all files from the NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder. (this also would prevent the issue when KiCAD wants to use its own library for a given component instead of the one from the project which may result in bad schematic or PCB)

I tried this method but when i want to open the project  NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder its seems empty

I can open NF1-MCP2210 and i get a layout but i do not know for sure if thats the complete one to sent to the fab or make ourself

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November 16, 2013, 12:14:28 AM
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Vs3 thank you. ----- I do have a quote from the facility.  We are going to do a test run of 20.  I will be ordering chips when I get home from the job. 

Nice!

p.s. - btw they could probably hand-assemble 20 units in a few hours Wink

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November 16, 2013, 12:41:12 AM
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Thank u for your open source project

Will be starting making these ones soon (if i got all things i need) and hope to get a working project

:-) Keep up the good work and will support when its all is done

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When you open either the schematic or PCB documents KiCAD may want to start with its own libraries. Remove them from the list - the NanoFury project includes a lib folder with all libraries that you may need. Just add all files from the NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder. (this also would prevent the issue when KiCAD wants to use its own library for a given component instead of the one from the project which may result in bad schematic or PCB)

I tried this method but when i want to open the project  NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder its seems empty
I can open NF1-MCP2210 and i get a layout but i do not know for sure if thats the complete one to sent to the fab or make ourself
hope you can help me out with this

The PCB and SCH files will be in NanoFury/NF1/kicad/NF1-MCP-V06/
When you open either of them then you may get some messages about libraries - then you go to Preferences->Libraries and use the ones in NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib

Aside from that the PCB file will contain everything needed for exporting of the gerber and other manufacturing files.


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November 16, 2013, 07:39:39 PM
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I will have a long wait at this facility.  I am looking for quotes for others that can deliver sooner.  If I was able to place a larger order they would start sooner but this is not the case.  I made pre orders with Hasfast etc and have a limited amount of funds .............. it is what it is. 
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November 16, 2013, 09:21:22 PM
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Thank u for your open source project

Will be starting making these ones soon (if i got all things i need) and hope to get a working project

:-) Keep up the good work and will support when its all is done

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When you open either the schematic or PCB documents KiCAD may want to start with its own libraries. Remove them from the list - the NanoFury project includes a lib folder with all libraries that you may need. Just add all files from the NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder. (this also would prevent the issue when KiCAD wants to use its own library for a given component instead of the one from the project which may result in bad schematic or PCB)

I tried this method but when i want to open the project  NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib folder its seems empty
I can open NF1-MCP2210 and i get a layout but i do not know for sure if thats the complete one to sent to the fab or make ourself
hope you can help me out with this

The PCB and SCH files will be in NanoFury/NF1/kicad/NF1-MCP-V06/
When you open either of them then you may get some messages about libraries - then you go to Preferences->Libraries and use the ones in NanoFury/NF1/kicad/lib

Aside from that the PCB file will contain everything needed for exporting of the gerber and other manufacturing files.


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November 17, 2013, 09:34:24 AM
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when I open CvPCB to open the netlist I get this error message.

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Unknown File Format <(export (version D)>

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File </NanoFury-master/NanoFury-master/NF1/kicad/NF1-MCP-V06/NF1-MCP2210-v06.net> does not appear to be a valid Kicad net list file.

Code:
Some files could not be found!
NanoFury.mod

If I open the netlist directly in Pcbnew the components do not appear.
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November 17, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
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when I open CvPCB to open the netlist I get this error message.

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Unknown File Format <(export (version D)>

Code:
File </NanoFury-master/NanoFury-master/NF1/kicad/NF1-MCP-V06/NF1-MCP2210-v06.net> does not appear to be a valid Kicad net list file.

Code:
Some files could not be found!
NanoFury.mod

If I open the netlist directly in Pcbnew the components do not appear.

I'm not sure what's the story about "NanoFury.mod" file - it is certainly there:
https://github.com/nanofury/NanoFury/blob/master/NF1/kicad/lib/NanoFury.mod

I noticed that KiCAD tends to embed full paths - which is most likely why you're getting those errors (as yours won't be where mine were). When you open either the schema or pcb go to libraries and remove all references (KiCAD tends to insert its own libraries there too) and add just the files from the lib/ folder.

Which version of KiCAD are you using? Mine is probably old by now - 2013-07-07 BZR 4022 stable on Win32.

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November 17, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
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when I open CvPCB to open the netlist I get this error message.

Code:
Unknown File Format <(export (version D)>

Code:
File </NanoFury-master/NanoFury-master/NF1/kicad/NF1-MCP-V06/NF1-MCP2210-v06.net> does not appear to be a valid Kicad net list file.

Code:
Some files could not be found!
NanoFury.mod

If I open the netlist directly in Pcbnew the components do not appear.

I'm not sure what's the story about "NanoFury.mod" file - it is certainly there:
https://github.com/nanofury/NanoFury/blob/master/NF1/kicad/lib/NanoFury.mod

I noticed that KiCAD tends to embed full paths - which is most likely why you're getting those errors (as yours won't be where mine were). When you open either the schema or pcb go to libraries and remove all references (KiCAD tends to insert its own libraries there too) and add just the files from the lib/ folder.

Which version of KiCAD are you using? Mine is probably old by now - 2013-07-07 BZR 4022 stable on Win32.
It works for me i can see all components but i get the same error some files could not be found nanofury.mod but i still do see them there are 48 parts wright ?

is there a easy way to look them up and buy them online ?

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November 17, 2013, 12:43:20 PM
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Which version of KiCAD are you using? Mine is probably old by now - 2013-07-07 BZR 4022 stable on Win32.

Sorry, I was using a version of the Ubuntu repositories 2011   Roll Eyes
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November 17, 2013, 02:04:26 PM
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Probably not everyone's idea of a Saturday evening drink ... but some steady hands and a glass of single malt (for the steady hands part! Smiley) and a few hours of boredom killed:

Let's start with some SMT paste:


Paste looking good:


a few hours later ...

Finally something ready to be baked :


NanoFury Cake anyone?


count down to liftoff ...


Houston, we have ignition! Smiley Middle 2 boards are a few degrees ahead of the pack!


Melt solder! Melt!


Finally cooled down and ready for a close inspection:


And we got some really nicely baked NanoFury miners Smiley

Full album is here: http://imgur.com/a/5hXU4

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November 17, 2013, 03:21:47 PM
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And we got some really nicely baked NanoFury miners Smiley

Hmmm, cookies!

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How do you pick-and-place them?
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November 17, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
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And we got some really nicely baked NanoFury miners Smiley

Hmmm, cookies!

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How do you pick-and-place them?

Steady hands! Smiley

btw the trickiest part was placing the bitfury chip ... on one of the boards it is off by half a pin length. Luckily it was shifted along the power pins, so all data ones were good.

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November 17, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
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How do you pick-and-place them?

Steady hands! Smiley

btw the trickiest part was placing the bitfury chip ... on one of the boards it is off by half a pin length. Luckily it was shifted along the power pins, so all data ones were good.

Damn, I always wanted the excuse to make one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYNBFXlJYQ
http://vpapanik.blogspot.gr/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

I guess I'll have to get few full kits with ASICs just for the fun of assembling them.
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November 18, 2013, 01:18:11 AM
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How do you pick-and-place them?

Steady hands! Smiley

btw the trickiest part was placing the bitfury chip ... on one of the boards it is off by half a pin length. Luckily it was shifted along the power pins, so all data ones were good.

Damn, I always wanted the excuse to make one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYNBFXlJYQ
http://vpapanik.blogspot.gr/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

I guess I'll have to get few full kits with ASICs just for the fun of assembling them.

Yeah, I've looked at something like that .. So far I haven't found anything that beats steady hands and good tweezers though.
I mean - down to 0603 everything is big enough for handling it that way. 0402 is probably as tiny as I'd ever do by hand (and given an option - read that as "never").

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November 18, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
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How do you pick-and-place them?

Steady hands! Smiley

btw the trickiest part was placing the bitfury chip ... on one of the boards it is off by half a pin length. Luckily it was shifted along the power pins, so all data ones were good.

Damn, I always wanted the excuse to make one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYNBFXlJYQ
http://vpapanik.blogspot.gr/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

I guess I'll have to get few full kits with ASICs just for the fun of assembling them.

Yeah, I've looked at something like that .. So far I haven't found anything that beats steady hands and good tweezers though.
I mean - down to 0603 everything is big enough for handling it that way. 0402 is probably as tiny as I'd ever do by hand (and given an option - read that as "never").
Want to make 110?
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November 18, 2013, 10:41:24 PM
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How do you pick-and-place them?

Steady hands! Smiley

btw the trickiest part was placing the bitfury chip ... on one of the boards it is off by half a pin length. Luckily it was shifted along the power pins, so all data ones were good.

Damn, I always wanted the excuse to make one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYNBFXlJYQ
http://vpapanik.blogspot.gr/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

I guess I'll have to get few full kits with ASICs just for the fun of assembling them.

Yeah, I've looked at something like that .. So far I haven't found anything that beats steady hands and good tweezers though.
I mean - down to 0603 everything is big enough for handling it that way. 0402 is probably as tiny as I'd ever do by hand (and given an option - read that as "never").
Want to make 110?

Sure, although I think you may not like my pricing Smiley

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November 19, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
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Like.
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November 20, 2013, 03:24:08 PM
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I will be looking at these designs later today but am interested in adding in more bitfury chips.  I'm not an electrical engineer but am pretty good with pcb design so was wondering what changes would need to be made to the schematics themselves to make this happen.  

Also, I have a local pcb builder that has a 5 day turnaround and a local pcb assembly company that takes on small-medium production runs.  I know I do not have much time on this forum but I've been a member for a while.

I'm located in the states.
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November 20, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
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Have a guy a idea to run this devices under the raspberry?
I bring them not to work:-(

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November 20, 2013, 09:59:33 PM
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vs3, can you tell us about the heat of the chips, without any dissipation layer, how much temperature rises?
I happened to make a big hole in the GND pad and once the bitfury soldier is padded on the backside with tin or thermal compound to insert a rear heatsink.
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