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July 01, 2018, 01:11:24 AM
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Sasha has said he's tired of Waves - that the corporate/government world and wealthy investors are more his cup of tea. He's dumped Waves, and Vostok is his new girlfriend!  Angry

Where has he even said this? Don't spread random FUD or show proof.

Should have said, but there is some dirt on the CEO of Qtum, Stephen/Patrick Dai - he supposedly ran off with the money from a previous venture, and changed his first name to hide his past. But Qtum has numerous people on board, including angel investors and a billionaire, so it's NOT all about Dai!

Not supposedly, he manipulated the people he was "working with" and stole more than 200BTC, also a huge chunk of the supply of Bitbay. Just goes to show that even angel investors and billionaires don't always know how to vet people properly and that it's too easy for scumbags like Patrick Dai to get away with things like this and still become successful in the public spotlight.

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July 01, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
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Today I read an article about Waves and Vostok on http://telegra.ph/How-Waves-community-benefits-from-Vostok-06-11

Are there any information available already when snapshot for Vostok will be?
Hello. All important info concerning Vostok can be found here:
The latest Q&A session with Sasha Ivanov:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/wavesplatform/status/1004755356034011141
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/wavesplatform/videos/789735137885301/
The official website:  https://vostokplatform.io/

Best wishes,
Waves Community Manager.

The Vostok website is only available in Russian for me. Even translation with Google translate gives no satisfying results. Can you answer my question about snapshot directly?
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July 01, 2018, 07:50:45 PM
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Where has he even said this? Don't spread random FUD or show proof.

He said it in the article about Vostok. He said it's been 10 years since Bitcoin was created - why is it taking so long for a supposedly promising technology to gain traction? He was paraphrasing Bill Gates, the guy who stole the personal computer OS market that Gary Kildall had single-handedly created. In short, Gates bought a clone of CP/M and sold it to IBM while Kildall was still negotiating with them.

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SIDENOTE (skip over for comments on Vostok)

When Kildall died, Gates used it as an opportunity for self-aggrandizement, saying that they were competitors, giving the impression that he won some mythical OS war. In fact, Microsoft at the time was a small software house making - mostly mediocre! - compilers and interpreters.

IBM initially visited Gates by mistake. Gates said, "I don't do operating systems - speak to Gary Kidall!" After Gates had bought the CP/M clone, he signed an agreement straightaway, saying, you just had to trust IBM, but the reason Kildall didn't sign straightaway was because he had an OS business to protect. Also, IBM had put obstacles in the way that were removed for Gates. Gates' mother knew the CEO of IBM, so that might have played a role, too, in Gates' success.

Later, Gates gave the impression that Kildall priced CP/M for the IBM PC at $240 vs $40 for DOS (the CP/M clone). But it was IBM who had done that - to kill it! Kildall could have sued IBM, but, instead, said that the market should decide, and IBM agreed to sell CP/M for the PC alongside DOS. Gates and IBM, effectively, conspired to destroy Kildall's firm. A decade or so later, Kildall went cap in hand to Gates, offering to sell his firm to Microsoft. Gates offered a paltry $10 million for it. Kildall later got over $100 million from Novell.

For the definitive account, get the paperback (NOT hardback) version of "They Made America" by Harold Evans. From that book: "But Kildall told him [Gerry Davis], 'Bill's a friend of mine. He wouldn't cut my throat'" Some friend!

Kildall wrote privately of Gates, "He is manipulative. He is a user. He has taken much from me and the industry."

Google "Gary Kildall and the 40th Anniversary of the Birth of the PC Operating System computerhistory"

Google "Gary Kildall and Collegial Entrepreneurship drdobbs" for an article in a well-known computer programming journal.

Search YT 4 "The Computer Chronicles: The Macintosh Computer (1985)" by user "Bob Blahloblaw"

Move slider to 14:23 and watch Kildall (he co-presented that program for six years) introduce GEM. GEM is what we would have got had Gates not stabbed a friend in the back. What Microsoft gave us:

Search YT 4 "Mum tries out Windows 1.0 (1985)" by user "OSFirstTimer"

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Vostok is for SUPER WEALTHY INVESTORS ONLY using technology developed with money provided by Waves investors! So, the rest is simple inference. There is NOTHING stopping Sasha from later porting Waves over to Vostok and killing Waves.

No one with half a brain would trust the guy now. His job was to make Waves a success - NOT move on to another project - JUST HOW MUCH MONEY DOES HE WANT? But he has form in doing this.

As for Vostok - a completely separate project to Waves! - creating synergy: you might as well say every cryptocurrency out there gives Waves synergy, because they're all contributing to the development and uptake of blockchain technology. This is just a sop to gullible investors!

Not supposedly

Well, it's what I read. I have no hard evidence - do you?
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July 01, 2018, 07:59:49 PM
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Greetings!

Today I read an article about Waves and Vostok on http://telegra.ph/How-Waves-community-benefits-from-Vostok-06-11

Are there any information available already when snapshot for Vostok will be?
Hello. All important info concerning Vostok can be found here:
The latest Q&A session with Sasha Ivanov:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/wavesplatform/status/1004755356034011141
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/wavesplatform/videos/789735137885301/
The official website:  https://vostokplatform.io/

Best wishes,
Waves Community Manager.

The Vostok website is only available in Russian for me. Even translation with Google translate gives no satisfying results. Can you answer my question about snapshot directly?

Kindly check the option of changing the language in the upper left corner of the page, please. Unfortunately, there is no any additional info about Vostok Platform. All the details will be transmitted via official Waves channels. Please stay in touch.

Best wishes,
Waves Community manager.
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July 02, 2018, 09:58:27 AM
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Guys what is the deal with this tweet from Sasha? Is there any further detail or explanation about the separate exchange?
https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1013030910361526273

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July 02, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
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Guys what is the deal with this tweet from Sasha? Is there any further detail or explanation about the separate exchange?
https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1013030910361526273
Greetings. Not everyone needs DEX while using wallet, for example. The wallet will have simple UI of exchanger. In its turn DEX will get more features and functional just like a professional crypto exchange. It will be easier and more convenient for users.
There weren't any additional statements related to this situation. More details regarding this will be announced in our social media.

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July 02, 2018, 04:23:46 PM
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why markets jump ?

Closing big shorts on BTC suggested by twitter user REKT (@BitmexRekt) July 2, 2018 ?
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July 02, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
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Waves remains hopeless if not for shielding questionable ICOs. A complete make over of the proposal may be required.
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July 02, 2018, 10:03:03 PM
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I think like everyone else invested in waves the biggest thing we would like to see now is not as much the next 2 year development plan, but the economic plan of closing the price gap between ETH and WAVES. ETH is much slower with twice as high and uncapped supply, a serious push to break 100$ per waves would bring alot of of good will to waves even breaking 20$ would be great, but waves should really be over 100$ and even reaching 1000$. A major price move higher would be the best thing for long term holders and those seriously invested in waves and its platform at this point IMO

This is something decided by the market, not by the team. You should better try to ask that to whales, which are actually making the market.

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July 03, 2018, 02:46:22 AM
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​​How do you regulate digital currencies? What does blockchain mean for global finance?

Don’t miss the CEO Sasha Ivanov at Astana Finance Days this 4 July. He will join a panel session along with other thought leaders in the space to discuss the implications of blockchain and how the technology is evolving. Also speaking at this 3-day event are a number of heads of states and other institutions, as well as international policy makers and leading academics.

For more details visit: https://www.astanafindays.org/en/speakers/aleksandr-ivanov
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July 03, 2018, 02:51:59 AM
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Where has he even said this? Don't spread random FUD or show proof.

He said it in the article about Vostok. He said it's been 10 years since Bitcoin was created - why is it taking so long for a supposedly promising technology to gain traction? He was paraphrasing Bill Gates, the guy who stole the personal computer OS market that Gary Kildall had single-handedly created. In short, Gates bought a clone of CP/M and sold it to IBM while Kildall was still negotiating with them.

-

SIDENOTE (skip over for comments on Vostok)

When Kildall died, Gates used it as an opportunity for self-aggrandizement, saying that they were competitors, giving the impression that he won some mythical OS war. In fact, Microsoft at the time was a small software house making - mostly mediocre! - compilers and interpreters.

IBM initially visited Gates by mistake. Gates said, "I don't do operating systems - speak to Gary Kidall!" After Gates had bought the CP/M clone, he signed an agreement straightaway, saying, you just had to trust IBM, but the reason Kildall didn't sign straightaway was because he had an OS business to protect. Also, IBM had put obstacles in the way that were removed for Gates. Gates' mother knew the CEO of IBM, so that might have played a role, too, in Gates' success.

Later, Gates gave the impression that Kildall priced CP/M for the IBM PC at $240 vs $40 for DOS (the CP/M clone). But it was IBM who had done that - to kill it! Kildall could have sued IBM, but, instead, said that the market should decide, and IBM agreed to sell CP/M for the PC alongside DOS. Gates and IBM, effectively, conspired to destroy Kildall's firm. A decade or so later, Kildall went cap in hand to Gates, offering to sell his firm to Microsoft. Gates offered a paltry $10 million for it. Kildall later got over $100 million from Novell.

For the definitive account, get the paperback (NOT hardback) version of "They Made America" by Harold Evans. From that book: "But Kildall told him [Gerry Davis], 'Bill's a friend of mine. He wouldn't cut my throat'" Some friend!

Kildall wrote privately of Gates, "He is manipulative. He is a user. He has taken much from me and the industry."

Google "Gary Kildall and the 40th Anniversary of the Birth of the PC Operating System computerhistory"

Google "Gary Kildall and Collegial Entrepreneurship drdobbs" for an article in a well-known computer programming journal.

Search YT 4 "The Computer Chronicles: The Macintosh Computer (1985)" by user "Bob Blahloblaw"

Move slider to 14:23 and watch Kildall (he co-presented that program for six years) introduce GEM. GEM is what we would have got had Gates not stabbed a friend in the back. What Microsoft gave us:

Search YT 4 "Mum tries out Windows 1.0 (1985)" by user "OSFirstTimer"

-

Vostok is for SUPER WEALTHY INVESTORS ONLY using technology developed with money provided by Waves investors! So, the rest is simple inference. There is NOTHING stopping Sasha from later porting Waves over to Vostok and killing Waves.

No one with half a brain would trust the guy now. His job was to make Waves a success - NOT move on to another project - JUST HOW MUCH MONEY DOES HE WANT? But he has form in doing this.

As for Vostok - a completely separate project to Waves! - creating synergy: you might as well say every cryptocurrency out there gives Waves synergy, because they're all contributing to the development and uptake of blockchain technology. This is just a sop to gullible investors!

Not supposedly

Well, it's what I read. I have no hard evidence - do you?

OK we understand the narrative, but give the precise references, so that we could visit this easily.
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July 03, 2018, 02:53:04 AM
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Waves remains hopeless if not for shielding questionable ICOs. A complete make over of the proposal may be required.

WAVES used to be a good coin. It was so developing. But people dont like it anymore
I'm also not sure what the main reason is
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July 03, 2018, 02:54:03 AM
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Hello, HiBorn!

@Waves.support

 When will your organization make good on its promise to take care of coinomat holders?
 Tell sasha no one cares about his new coin.  Tell him to sick it up his ass.

Coinomat service is a separate project and and Waves partner. Waves Platform does not regulate any affairs connected to that service. All the questions related to Waves Platform can be answered on any Waves channels. Anyway, your question has been forwarded to the management, and you can get any information upon your request as soon as the answer from the management is received.

Best wishes,
Waves Community manager.


Sasha issued all these coinomat assets himself, if he sold coinomat business it doesn't change that fact. He is responsible for these assets.

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July 03, 2018, 08:08:30 AM
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Looks like OP is creating an ANN Thread design. I am a fan of Waves, I'll be back the next day if theres an update from the OP post. It must be a good news to Waves investors.
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July 03, 2018, 08:14:22 PM
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Waves console example
http://youtu.be/QWaZjpiQtHA

Multi Signature example using waves smart contracts
http://youtu.be/oRmnERIBKzY



WAVES -What is waves- How to Works
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July 03, 2018, 08:24:16 PM
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Looks like OP is creating an ANN Thread design. I am a fan of Waves, I'll be back the next day if theres an update from the OP post. It must be a good news to Waves investors.

so from that I wait for the latest OP.nidak cuman me who likes the OP but out there are still many who love it.maka than that we will wait for the arrival of the latest OP.
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July 04, 2018, 06:53:25 AM
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I've been accumulating and holding WAVES for months. Can't believe it's been staying so low profile for such a long time, but I'm happy to have been able to buy more, now that price is still very low IMO.
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July 04, 2018, 02:22:58 PM
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How does one keep rich investors from buying Waves?

Get them to put their money into Vostok instead!

Brilliant Roll Eyes
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July 04, 2018, 04:05:46 PM
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I'm thinkin to get involved into waves as I think it may burst very soon to a new high. Also the develop team is doing until now a fantastic job so this is another reason why I watch waves closely and thinking to invest hard.
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July 04, 2018, 05:35:44 PM
 #2360

Waves best token on earth, everybody knows that here.
Except this f.... whole market.
Just wait next crypto bubble to sell to the dumb.
Ivanox failed, face it
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