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November 28, 2019, 07:15:51 PM |
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Who are the people behind Elfronus Company LTD?
The new owners of waves exchange.
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November 28, 2019, 09:16:09 PM |
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Whenever I see posts like this. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Whenever I see shills like this (Sasha is on the left): ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.consumeraffairs.com%2Ffiles%2Fnews%2Fscam-artist-_KAR_-_Fotolia.jpg&t=665&c=_dPu8g4gMIIBHA)
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November 28, 2019, 09:19:59 PM |
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Don't sell the 3 year low.... I have been doing this for 15 years in stock market, sell high, buy low.
It's not a 3 year low for me and, anyway, I'm reconfiguring my portfolio (bit of a fancy word for my small pile of coins) in readiness for the apocalypse, if it comes - a massive die off of coins, with a few remaining survivors. Sasha's project, unfortunately, doesn't make the grade. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 29, 2019, 12:22:59 AM |
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Don't sell the 3 year low.... I have been doing this for 15 years in stock market, sell high, buy low.
It's not a 3 year low for me and, anyway, I'm reconfiguring my portfolio (bit of a fancy word for my small pile of coins) in readiness for the apocalypse, if it comes - a massive die off of coins, with a few remaining survivors. Sasha's project, unfortunately, doesn't make the grade. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Sasha made bank in 2016 with the 30k Bitcoin he got from the WAVES ICO, he hasn't been serious about building anything since he became a multi millionaire, he has zero motivation for anything other than, 1. Avoid going to prison for numerous securities violations 2. Avoid being attacked by disgruntled investors Everything he does since 2016 has been a long drawn out exit strategy, he got enough money for 10 lifetimes, he doesn't care about any of his projects, Coinomat, WAVES, Vostok etc etc , he honestly is praying for the alt coin Armageddon so he can say, "look I tried for all these years but it didn't work" , then he retires on the WAVES ICO millions. Everything he does is for show, he is NOT sincere in trying to make any of his projects work. This is the truth, if the community doesn't like it our only options are to prevent Sasha's getaway, see that he is charged for securities violations, go and confront him in the real world, make him squirm, make him uncomfortable, then he doesn't get away with it.
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November 29, 2019, 07:16:08 AM Last edit: November 29, 2019, 08:06:22 AM by boltz |
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All I've heard in Sasha's AMA was "aaaaaaaa, aaaaaaa" x10000 times. He has no idea how to address its investors and yet he ask for patience ? to be honest as they don't even know how to speak with their community , they picked their own questions like I said but some of them were really informative.... .
Waves is almost the only project that goes down when Bitcoin goes up and goes DEEPLY down when Bitcoin goes down. There is no uptrend for Waves no matter what course is Bitcoin on. We bear with you Sasha but for how long ?
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November 29, 2019, 07:59:32 AM Last edit: November 29, 2019, 08:40:52 AM by MarquiseMuseum |
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All I've heard in Sasha's AMA was "aaaaaaaa, aaaaaaa" x10000 times. He has no idea how to address its investors and yet he ask for patience ? to be honest as they don't even know how to speak with their community , they picked their own questions like I said ... . Someone should really make something about this as he is destroying the project and further more the NXT holders are still ignored ( happy I'm not one ).
Waves project has 3 and 8 months already into the crypto space and yet all they achieved was nothing as price speaks for it and I don't know any other good project that haven't achieved a thing in the first 3 years...I could list thousand of examples but they don't simply care.
Waves is almost the only project that goes down when Bitcoin goes up and goes DEEPLY down when Bitcoin goes down. There is no uptrend for Waves no matter what course is Bitcoin on. We bear with you Sasha but for how long ?
As a small business owner I can reach thousands of active rich list traders with ultra targeted automated airdrop services. There is nothing even close to the power of waves for small business marketing but it is no guarantee of success unless the product is also good. Google adwords? You want this ultra targeting to high value users the CPM is dozens of dollars if not in the hundreds per CLICK. Wall street journal full page is $250k, cpm equivalent is in the hundreds of dollars. Waves platform? 0.6x $0.6; 36 cents....to reach 1000 users >>>directly inside their wallets<<< This mass transfer fee is ONLY payable in waves despite btc and other crypto acceptance. As soon as the transfer is initiated the funds are always converted back into waves in market so everything else is second layer to increase volume on the dex. This is for interactive token marketing with 140 character alpha numeric message inclusion using a completely novel invention called airdrops with unheard of conversion levels both for website visits and engagement and of course direct investment into project or merchandise sales conversion. Waves will blow off the roof at $544 within 24 months if it can gain merchant traction. It's $326 cpm at this valuation, in line with competitors. So everybody who sells now have no business in waves because it is wealthy merchants who will pick up these black friday coins and then turn around and market it to their userbase which is Retail with $20 trillion in global yearly sales. Flippers missing the mark here the risk/reward of selling now is beyond stupidity, please find another hobby because trading is not for you (this is not directed towards Boltz but the trading community in general). It is potentially another "Should have bought Eth at 50 cents in 2015" moment. 100 000 buyorder prepared for $0.15 but I think 3 year bottom was delivered at $0.54 and that this coin can gain x1000 from here but not without risk so don't mortgage the house in this project. Personally I am increasingly concerned about the IC level of PC access with zeroday access on Windows. Banking security is usually supported by sovereign insurance policy in case of default up to $1 million but there is no such safety in crypto. Quantum computing also problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance
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November 29, 2019, 09:34:21 AM |
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CMC #71 Get real, there is no demand atm. No merchant traction. 500$/wave is just delusional.
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November 29, 2019, 11:08:06 AM Last edit: November 29, 2019, 11:36:44 AM by MarquiseMuseum |
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CMC #71 Get real, there is no demand atm. No merchant traction. 500$/wave is just delusional.
One more time, final time: Crypto has recently experienced the most severe asset class decline/crash/depression/ice age/collapse/bubble implosion/melt down of any human made or natural asset class since the inception of the industrial revolution 200 years ago. These people seem oblivious to the fact that they are trading in the alt coin equivalent of hiroshima after getting Nuked. For those who don't understand that this is absolute peak bear with the level of pessimism in this thread I can only say, B-U-Y now if you are tracking this project. They say buy when blood is running in the streets, here is no blood here. It is vaporized in a nuclear wasteland. And yet here we are, trading and developing, business as usual. No bankruptcy no nothing. This requires the risk/reward analytical capacity of a newborn to determine what to do next. Well I don't care anymore, I have enough waves to retire several times over when this goes vertical in a few days to ignite a new 2 year parabolic s-curve. And if I am wrong, few months salary. Risk vs Reward.
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November 29, 2019, 04:28:24 PM |
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wait wait...
waves is still alive?
lol
rekt shitcoin it is.
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$ADK ~ watch & learn...
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November 29, 2019, 04:38:53 PM |
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CMC #72 a day later. It goes vertical in the wrong direction.
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November 29, 2019, 04:57:49 PM |
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CMC #72 a day later. It goes vertical in the wrong direction.
I think Waves ain't gonna make it, It'll go down below 100 and keep going down further. I'm gonna flip half of my holding into some other altcoin with potential for major upside. Sasha's leadership will eventually kill Waves.
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November 29, 2019, 11:37:53 PM |
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Take 96.5 million $M-2 at 5 sats for $37k, get 1 million USD back.
Only possible when waves price is this low.
When waves goes up this offer is not available.
Last chance
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November 30, 2019, 08:19:47 PM |
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I think Waves ain't gonna make it, It'll go down below 100 and keep going down further. I'm gonna flip half of my holding into some other altcoin with potential for major upside. Sasha's leadership will eventually kill Waves.
is there no good wave marking on the waves so half of your ownership must be replaced with another. what factors cause that.
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December 01, 2019, 08:29:40 AM |
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Take 96.5 million $M-2 at 5 sats for $37k, get 1 million USD back.
Only possible when waves price is this low.
When waves goes up this offer is not available.
Last chance
Dude you're simply delusional , stop promoting what you can't understand. I don't know what waves team promised you in order to come with those numbers but you already have a negative trust so stop doing it. There are users here who are in waves since inception and you're telling us 540$ per waves ? Are you serious ? Stop spreading false info as some members will take your words for serious and look at the price , it keeps going down without any CHANCES to recover anytime soon. If waves sees 1$ again you should be happy.
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December 01, 2019, 09:23:43 AM |
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where is it possible to find the results of 28 november AMA ?
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December 01, 2019, 09:35:36 AM |
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where is it possible to find the results of 28 november AMA ?
Enjoy https://youtu.be/xbqcAln0oes
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Sasha made bank in 2016 with the 30k Bitcoin he got from the WAVES ICO, he hasn't been serious about building anything since he became a multi millionaire, he has zero motivation for anything other than,
1. Avoid going to prison for numerous securities violations 2. Avoid being attacked by disgruntled investors
Everything he does since 2016 has been a long drawn out exit strategy, he got enough money for 10 lifetimes, he doesn't care about any of his projects, Coinomat, WAVES, Vostok etc etc , he honestly is praying for the alt coin Armageddon so he can say, "look I tried for all these years but it didn't work" , then he retires on the WAVES ICO millions. Everything he does is for show, he is NOT sincere in trying to make any of his projects work.
This is the truth, if the community doesn't like it our only options are to prevent Sasha's getaway, see that he is charged for securities violations, go and confront him in the real world, make him squirm, make him uncomfortable, then he doesn't get away with it.
Well said! He's taken millions of dollars from others and then calls those people "dirty speculators". "Hand me your money; now f**k off!" is his attitude. Waves is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme designed to enrich Sasha. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) The real "dirty speculators" are the Bitcoin whales and people like John McAfee - "Bitcoin to $1 million by 2020 or I'll eat my dick!" - they're all rich; they all need to get a life!
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Check staking rewards, stats, ROI. POS earning calculator.
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I have to say that new waves exchange looks great , works great , everything is smoothly , lovely interface so this is maybe the only positive tech coming to waves in this year which is kinda sad. I'm still waiting to see what marketing team is gonna do until the end of the year as Sasha told us in AMA that marketing team is preparing something for the community and the project and I do hope this time it will reflect on the price as we're ATL in satoshis.
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