[LEAKED] Private Bitcoin Foundation Discussions On Blacklisting, more (ZIP dump)

[whtchocla7e]

Who makes the decision on what is a tainted coin??

Anyone the U.S. government chooses.  My guess is that it will be these guys:

  http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/11/13/sanitizing-bitcoin-coin-validation/

What if users don't accept this method of coin validation?
What about international users?

See a few posts above:

  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334520.msg4691189#msg4691189

So, Bitcoin becomes centralized. Funny and sad at the same time.

[tvbcof]

So, Bitcoin becomes centralized. Funny and sad at the same time.

Bitcoin is widely acknowledged to be 'an experiment' and 'beta'.  As a first cut it is extraordinarily impressive in a lot of ways.

I believe that at the end of the day, Bitcoin's real contribution will be in calling attention to the aspects of future distributed crypto-currency solutions which need to be focused on.

The flip-side is that it could be incentive for the powers that be to tie up some loose ends in the global internet.  Or try to.  It is a distinct problem to a lot of people that in it's current implementation the internet allows a relatively high degree of freedom of association among the plebs.  The technology exists to rectify this 'deficiency' but it's not clear what the most effective way to roll these in will be.

[jballs]

So, Bitcoin becomes centralized. Funny and sad at the same time.

Bitcoin is widely acknowledged to be 'an experiment' and 'beta'.  As a first cut it is extraordinarily impressive in a lot of ways.

I believe that at the end of the day, Bitcoin's real contribution will be in calling attention to the aspects of future distributed crypto-currency solutions which need to be focused on.

The flip-side is that it could be incentive for the powers that be to tie up some loose ends in the global internet.  Or try to.  It is a distinct problem to a lot of people that in it's current implementation the internet allows a relatively high degree of freedom of association among the plebs.  The technology exists to rectify this 'deficiency' but it's not clear what the most effective way to roll these in will be.

I do not understand your concern with taint...we all do business with criminals. That doesn't make us criminals. Every defense attorney in the world takes tainted money and he's a friend of the court and often times on the public salary too.

I have no idea where my btc came from beyond who sent it to me (and some of it not even them).

But what do you think of VTC as far as solving the centralization problem? Sounds good to me but I'm pretty novice still.

[btcash]

Jeff:

4. Donate to the Bitcoin Foundation, which supports two core developers.

Who is the second core dev?

[bananas]

We should change the core devolopers of bitcoin, we can just do it.

[Bit_Happy]

If you think we dont need to meet the regulators half way you a fool.

Google met the NSA halfway, and they responded by tapping Google's private fiber links.

Bitinstant met the regulators halfway, and the banking system responded by dropping them like a hot potato as soon as they went and got all the licences everybody said they needed.

You are a fool if you believe that meeting terrorist and gangsters halfway will ever result in a good outcome for anyone except them and their cronies.

The solution is to invent and put into practise privacy-respecting protocols and software more rapidly than the regulators can adapt.

You are a wise one.

[jesse11]

Who pays "The Bitcoin Foundation"? Dry up their money or BTC problem solved! 

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

If you think we dont need to meet the regulators half way you a fool.

Google met the NSA halfway, and they responded by tapping Google's private fiber links.

Bitinstant met the regulators halfway, and the banking system responded by dropping them like a hot potato as soon as they went and got all the licences everybody said they needed.

You are a fool if you believe that meeting terrorist and gangsters halfway will ever result in a good outcome for anyone except them and their cronies.

The solution is to invent and put into practise privacy-respecting protocols and software more rapidly than the regulators can adapt.

Wow, i haven't noticed this earlier. This should be named the post of the year.

[subSTRATA]

Imagine Bin Laden is still around.

We find out his Bitcoin address. It contains 10,000 Bitcoins and we can see transactions entering it.

We then see outgoings, some of which are traced to weapons used to kill 1000s of Americans, think a major bomb or subway incident.

What do you think is going to happen? Media outrage and congressional outrage. "We must ban this worldwide!". It's exactly what will happen. Bitcoin being so public is a double-edged sword.

I guess you would not have a problem with let's say Americans BTC funding radicals in some country with the goal to overthrow legit government.

The status quo isn't going to work.

Sure it will.

We should change the core devolopers of bitcoin, we can just do it.

In Bitcoin, miners are God. Do not waste time on wrong people.

[NewLiberty]

In Bitcoin, miners are God. Do not waste time on wrong people.

QFT

[BigV]

Every business should have a drug test kit to test cash for drug residue.  If it contains any they should not take it.  It could have been used in a crime.

[MarketNeutral]

If you think we dont need to meet the regulators half way you a fool.

Google met the NSA halfway, and they responded by tapping Google's private fiber links.

Bitinstant met the regulators halfway, and the banking system responded by dropping them like a hot potato as soon as they went and got all the licences everybody said they needed.

You are a fool if you believe that meeting terrorist and gangsters halfway will ever result in a good outcome for anyone except them and their cronies.

The solution is to invent and put into practise privacy-respecting protocols and software more rapidly than the regulators can adapt.

Perceptive perspective. Thank you! A post that bears repeating.

Are you listening, Gavin?

[justusranvier]

Are you listening, Gavin?

Bitcoin is fundamentally broken if its future depends on whether or not Gavin is listening.

Fortunately, there are viable alternatives to Bitcoin Core now.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Every business should have a drug test kit to test cash for drug residue.  If it contains any they should not take it.  It could have been used in a crime.

Wasn't the crime initiated during the printing of said cash?

[DoogieHouser]

For whatever it's worth, there appears to be a mass exodus from the Bitcoin Foundation...

Read about it here.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

For whatever it's worth, there appears to be a mass exodus from the Bitcoin Foundation...

Read about it here.

Just correctly the link for your, bud: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/951-post-your-bitcoin-foundation-resignations-here/

[DoogieHouser]

Every business should have a drug test kit to test cash for drug residue.  If it contains any they should not take it.  It could have been used in a crime.

Wasn't the crime initiated during the printing of said cash?

According to one of the alphabet agencies, the two most common things found on US dollar bills is cocaine and feces, so by the same logic, it the cash wasn't used in a crime . . .

[LesterTheEight]

The current influx of governments, organizations, and individuals that are attempting to exert control over bitcoin both directly and indirectly demonstrates just how far we've come. They see the value in bitcoin and are taking us seriously now.

[LesterTheEight]

We have come together into this new financial system to escape that very kind of control. Let's not allow that control to creep back into our lives. Not even a little. These threats to bitcoin will never stop. When we squash one, it will surely just pop back up with a different name. So we must never consider the battle to be won and we must always remain vigilant .

[LesterTheEight]

I know I've said it before but I don't think it can be said enough: Let's not make the mistake of trading one master for another.