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October 15, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
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I hope this clears it up.


... a little bit.  It may be too early in the morning for me though - Imma give it another read once I wake up a bit more.

But from parsing that, I can only imagine what you went through to set it up.

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October 15, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
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What about pool hopping? Is this pool (well, the miners of that pool) hurt by them?
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October 15, 2011, 04:50:09 PM
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Thus the diffrenences in reject % is baised on how many shares and rejects occurred in a given round.  If you give 1000 shares and have 1 reject that's 0.1%.  So lets just say a new round starts for the namecoin block chain and you give 100 more shares on top of the 1000 for bitcoin chain and your get one more reject, then your total shares is 1100 for bitcoin block chain and 2 rejects giving a % of less then 0.2 for BTC and 1% for nmc blockchain.

Example:
rejects shares given BTC NMC
1 100(1%) 100(1%) 100(1%)
1 1000(0.1%) 1000(0.1%) 100(0%)
2 10000(0.02%) 10000(0.02%) 100(1%)
3 20000(0.015%) 9000(0.01%) 100(0%)


Aye, I was not confused on that part when I referenced the stales. I should have been more clear. I was refering to watching the difference immediatly following a new BTC block start and a new NMC block start...

  I had 0% stales on BTC side 800~ shares in and .19% on the NMC side about 400 shares into its new round....

  That led me to believe our dif 1 results were first checked on BTC getwork and then NMC getwork. *shrug*

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October 15, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
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  I had 0% stales on BTC side 800~ shares in and .19% on the NMC side about 400 shares into its new round....

  That led me to believe our dif 1 results were first checked on BTC getwork and then NMC getwork. *shrug*

No you should of had .1 stales on the BTC let me check into that do you know when that occurred?  Better yet the next time you see something like that let me know.
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October 15, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
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Thus the diffrenences in reject % is baised on how many shares and rejects occurred in a given round.  If you give 1000 shares and have 1 reject that's 0.1%.  So lets just say a new round starts for the namecoin block chain and you give 100 more shares on top of the 1000 for bitcoin chain and your get one more reject, then your total shares is 1100 for bitcoin block chain and 2 rejects giving a % of less then 0.2 for BTC and 1% for nmc blockchain.

Example:
rejects shares given BTC NMC
1 100(1%) 100(1%) 100(1%)
1 1000(0.1%) 1000(0.1%) 100(0%)
2 10000(0.02%) 10000(0.02%) 100(1%)
3 20000(0.015%) 9000(0.01%) 100(0%)


Aye, I was not confused on that part when I referenced the stales. I should have been more clear. I was refering to watching the difference immediatly following a new BTC block start and a new NMC block start...

  I had 0% stales on BTC side 800~ shares in and .19% on the NMC side about 400 shares into its new round....

  That led me to believe our dif 1 results were first checked on BTC getwork and then NMC getwork. *shrug*

At this very moment a user has this...

3,918 (0.33% rejects)BTC   918 (0.00% rejects)NMC

Now the reason he has no rejects for NMC is because between shares 3918 and 3000 he had 13 rejects but between shares 3000 and 3918 he had no rejects.

Thus there is no way you could have lower stales amount on the BTC side then on the NMC side unless your BTC share count is lower then NMC or ASTRONOMICALLY high that the reject does not register as .001%.
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October 15, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
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  "Well thoguht out response to very nicely explain why SadPanda is likely mistaken"

  Davinci, m8, don't waste your time on me, bro. ;p  You will find I often ask silly questions and am quite often mistaken when it comes to the inner workings of things that I am not familiar with. It is quite likely in this situation that either, one; I was mistaken about the numbers I saw or, two; that it was a one time fluke due to the recent new round start on BTC and a second round starting on NMC.

  However, if I do notice anything funky, which I have not. I will attempt to document it better to present it to you. Sadly between my horrible grammar and our very slight language barrier I feel like I am stressing you out with more work than what is really neccessary. I am very happy with the service and have noted ZERO issues that are of concern. Please feel free to ignore any of my unfounded, inquisitive observations in the future.

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October 15, 2011, 07:09:17 PM
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  "Well thoguht out response to very nicely explain why SadPanda is likely mistaken"

  Davinci, m8, don't waste your time on me, bro. ;p  You will find I often ask silly questions and am quite often mistaken when it comes to the inner workings of things that I am not familiar with. It is quite likely in this situation that either, one; I was mistaken about the numbers I saw or, two; that it was a one time fluke due to the recent new round start on BTC and a second round starting on NMC.

  However, if I do notice anything funky, which I have not. I will attempt to document it better to present it to you. Sadly between my horrible grammar and our very slight language barrier I feel like I am stressing you out with more work than what is really neccessary. I am very happy with the service and have noted ZERO issues that are of concern. Please feel free to ignore any of my unfounded, inquisitive observations in the future.

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October 16, 2011, 02:52:10 AM
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What is the confirmed blocks required before crediting prop btc payouts ?

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October 16, 2011, 03:29:10 AM
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What is the confirmed blocks required before crediting prop btc payouts ?

  Not real sure how many confirms he requires but your account updates once per hour.  My credits from the prop round that just finished showed on my account with only a few confirms on the block.

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October 16, 2011, 06:11:36 AM
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What is the confirmed blocks required before crediting prop btc payouts ?
Currently my system pays out right after a block is found for both BTC prop and PPS.
HOWEVER, the system is bit slow and I am working on a solution to speed that up.  This new solution will take me some time to code so you will need to put up with the slowness for now.

If you where not paid for the last block please let me know as I did reduced the slowness but my code may had a bug I was not aware of.

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October 16, 2011, 06:12:50 AM
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What is the confirmed blocks required before crediting prop btc payouts ?

  Not real sure how many confirms he requires but your account updates once per hour.  My credits from the prop round that just finished showed on my account with only a few confirms on the block.

NMCBIT pays out when a block is found however it's not working out very well I will be working on fixing that over the next few weeks.
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October 16, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
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Nah I got paid was just curious about the confirmation period required Smiley

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October 16, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
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Nah I got paid was just curious about the confirmation period required Smiley

  Hehe, Davinci loves his pool very much and I can see the little bead of sweat roll down his forehead any time we ask something like that.  Cheesy

    Davinci, your pool is running just fine, m8! And, as far as payouts go yours is one of the fastest from proof to payout that I have been on. And, I've mined at a LOT of pools!


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October 16, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
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Nah I got paid was just curious about the confirmation period required Smiley

  Hehe, Davinci loves his pool very much and I can see the little bead of sweat roll down his forehead any time we ask something like that.  Cheesy

    Davinci, your pool is running just fine, m8! And, as far as payouts go yours is one of the fastest from proof to payout that I have been on. And, I've mined at a LOT of pools!


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I am working on instant proof to payout!  That is my objective.
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October 16, 2011, 06:03:00 PM
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What is the confirmed blocks required before crediting prop btc payouts ?
Currently my system pays out right after a block is found for both BTC prop and PPS.
HOWEVER, the system is bit slow and I am working on a solution to speed that up.  This new solution will take me some time to code so you will need to put up with the slowness for now.

If you where not paid for the last block please let me know as I did reduced the slowness but my code may had a bug I was not aware of.



That works for me at least you tell people what is going on and actually have payouts unlike other weasel pools I could mention in this merged mining thing. Thanks for doing it not a bad little setup you have going on and really like the convert to BTC option much better than having to go to an exchange to do it especially for those who do not want/can not install the client on the machine.


Thanks I plan to automate it payout value but I am trying to think up a formula that will detect market manipulation.  As for my integrity, a read of this thread will show you that I have worked very hard to insure that do what I say and I am more than fair as I can be.

My word is like gold to me, I will always be honest and fair.

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October 16, 2011, 07:01:13 PM
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Thanks I plan to automate it payout value but I am trying to think up a formula that will detect market manipulation.  As for my integrity, a read of this thread will show you that I have worked very hard to insure that do what I say and I am more than fair as I can be.

My word is like gold to me, I will always be honest and fair.

Davinci

Your welcome I think similarly myself you make a deal you stick to it cost me money a few times but that is all a person has really is his word and I can see that in you from reading this thread the times it popped up and I noticed it and am pretty sure you have dug into your pockets a couple of times to keep this namecoin thing going, too bad Slush was such a little prick and screwed over everyone who did this merged mining right. I think if it had been different you could have had a decent payout that IMHO you rightly deserved as it is now really everyone else gets to pick up the crumbs and to tell you the truth I don't understand how he seems to get a pass on that behavior.

Edit: As an interesting aside you were one of the first hits I had when I started looking into this bitcoin thing months ago with your videos on youtube at least I think that avatar picture looks like the fellow I seen there..
Yep that's me DavinciJ15 on youtube is me as well.  Trying to fight the good fight against banksters.
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October 16, 2011, 08:20:45 PM
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Thought so and yeah someone has too, christ you just don't how much I hate banks no good scumbags that goes for pretty much all of them.

Same here!

Going back to topic of slimy pools, I don't know if know this but slush and Nodemaster of MasterPool.eu tricked me into mining on the wrong block chain when there was an attack on the namecoin network.  If you read the thread starting here....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33612.msg527727#msg527727
You will see what kind of person NodeMaster is.

I don't know how he operates his pool but we shall see.

Anyhow my objective is to not only create a good pool but to allow others to create great pools I currently help anyone who asks how I did it because the more pools their are the stronger the network.

I was going to give away the technology but I have decided to franchise it once I have a complete solution.  I have a great idea that I believe will put me on top.  The problem is I don't know if it will work but I will try.

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October 16, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
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Can you check your calc on the NMC PPS
Statiictics show total shares submitted 621: Total NMC earned:  0.30818236NMC


It should be around: 1.22 NMC
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October 16, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
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Can you check your calc on the NMC PPS
Statiictics show total shares submitted 621: Total NMC earned:  0.30818236NMC


It should be around: 1.22 NMC


The difficulty went up and the new PPS is 0.0004962679032267

This adjustment is automatic.
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October 16, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
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Davinci

Can you check your calc on the NMC PPS
Statiictics show total shares submitted 621: Total NMC earned:  0.30818236NMC


It should be around: 1.22 NMC


The difficulty went up and the new PPS is 0.0004962679032267

This adjustment is automatic.

Bummer, that explained why the last 4-5 blocks took a few hours.  lol shiit do happen over nite, 


Any chance of getting the the current diff and future est diff in the main page (whenever u have the time)
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