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March 20, 2014, 02:16:19 PM
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You are the sort of brainwashed halfwit who thinks the responsibility for the lost BTC of MtGOX customers lies with the customers, because "it's their fault for using MtGOX".

That happens to be exactly correct. MP told you not to do it. So you figured you know better than MP? You figured you're not required to obey? Well enjoy then.

Bitbet is a scam site. I'm glad to know this before ever using the site. Not that I was likely to, as gambling isn't my thing, but still it's worth knowing.

Lolk.

I am absolutely appalled by your shitty scam-site and inhumane demeanor.

If your mother weren't a promiscuous whore, the world would conceivably be a better place. Not quite as amusing tho.

Excellent. Thank you for confirming very clearly the points I made. My condolences to you, for having to go through life so desperately unequipped.
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March 20, 2014, 03:39:42 PM
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Had it been my bet I would have already come face to face with you and extracted every last cent by now.



I fail to see why posting a recent  pic of you and your  sister could have any relevance to this thread.
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March 21, 2014, 06:22:27 AM
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Had it been my bet I would have already come face to face with you and extracted every last cent by now.



I fail to see why posting a recent  pic of you and your  sister could have any relevance to this thread.
It's about as relevant as your response.  Either you get it or you don't.  The rest is just masochistic entertainment.

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March 23, 2014, 08:48:12 PM
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Snackman..

im in a similiar sitiatuion! ! ! ops didint see that it was bitbet.us - im having problems on bitbet.com

i made a deposit of 0.16btc on there site.

And won 2.025btc and yes ofc i made a withdrawl right away,thought it was nice too get 2btc of a investment of 0.16btc

they said it could take up too 48hours,i thought ok np i waited and waited.

nothing happend ! ?

i got the support,and she said that she would transfer my btc immediatly,

But no nothing happend ! i taalked too support,and the same BS was said,now over a month i have waited and still nothing!!!

i have no idea if iam gonna get my Winings out..


I believe they are a F...... Scammers ! !

Peace....        Does anyone have a email for there support or something ?? Thanks guys Smiley
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March 23, 2014, 10:34:23 PM
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I just typed the bitbet url into my browser and got this:


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March 23, 2014, 10:41:36 PM
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I just typed the bitbet url into my browser and got this:


bitbet.us is the correct address

Signature space available for rent.
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March 23, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
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Whoops!
Thanks for correcting me.
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March 24, 2014, 10:58:31 AM
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Wow.

The legit thing to do would be to not allow people to place bets with unconfirmed transactions. Not hard.

The scummy thing to do would be let people place bets with unconfirmed transactions and then keep the funds if they don't confirm in time.

What a clusterfuck of a business attitude. "Look, I fucking told you I would rip you off if they didn't confirm, they didn't so I ripped you off, what are you complaining about. I did what I said I would."

Yeeeah, this is bitcoin bitches, so we can do what the fuck we want and you are a fuckwit for not reading our unreasonable FAQ.



I don't gamble, my life has enough risk on a day to day basis without adding more but I sure as fuck would avoid anyone with such disdain for their customers, no matter what the industry.

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March 26, 2014, 02:04:45 AM
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The legit thing to do would be to not allow people to place bets with unconfirmed transactions. Not hard.

How exactly?

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March 26, 2014, 02:47:12 AM
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The legit thing to do would be to not allow people to place bets with unconfirmed transactions. Not hard.

How exactly?

Do you not know how to return bitcoins? You surely know how the bitcoin protocol works and how to steal them.
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March 26, 2014, 08:12:20 AM
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The legit thing to do would be to not allow people to place bets with unconfirmed transactions. Not hard.

How exactly?


Well, it would involve a little investment in development but simply, customers have a wallet address with you, much like any exchange, local bitcoins etc. You accept bets from the wallet address they have with you, if the wallet doesn't have enough confirmed funds to place the bet they can't.

This is how hundreds of bitcoin services work, from bitbargain to bitstamp.



I have a reasonable idea of what your answer will be already.

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March 26, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
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Well, it would involve a little investment in development but simply, customers have a wallet address with you, much like any exchange, local bitcoins etc. You accept bets from the wallet address they have with you, if the wallet doesn't have enough confirmed funds to place the bet they can't.

This is how hundreds of bitcoin services work, from bitbargain to bitstamp.



I have a reasonable idea of what your answer will be already.

Your brain does not work. Shut up and read more.

Do you not know how to return bitcoins? You surely know how the bitcoin protocol works and how to steal them.

Not allow != Undo, fuckwit. Shut up and go away, reading isn't your thing. Whatever you think you're making "professionally" posting here is less than you'd make if you just flipped burgers, courtesy of Obama's minimum wage bullshit. Go take advantage of it, that's what it's for, that's what you're for.

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March 26, 2014, 03:02:25 PM
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March 26, 2014, 09:40:59 PM
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To translate mpoe prs post

Bitcoin transactions cannot simply be "invalidated" and it is impossible to block transactions.

However it is incredibly easy to automatically return any late bets but they prefer doubling their revenue* by having this policy where they can steal late bets.

*Literally half of bitbets income last year was from stealing late bets.
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March 26, 2014, 10:12:14 PM
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To translate mpoe prs post

Bitcoin transactions cannot simply be "invalidated" and it is impossible to block transactions.

It's really not.

You just need to create internal wallets that are your 'account balance' you can bet with your account balance and nothing else. Account balance is only made of confirmed bitcoins, no coins show in balance until confirmed. When bets are placed coins are removed by the system from the internal wallet and all payouts are also paid into the internal wallet. The user can then withdraw from their internal wallet to their personal wallet / wallet of choice.

Or

you can buy credits with bitcoins and only bet with credits. Credits are only issued once transactions are confirmed.

You know, like other bitcoin and non bitcoin betting sites do.

This shit is like an online bookmaker telling you to make a bank transfer for each bet and if the bank transfer reaches them after the bet has closed they keep it. Betting sites don't work like that, you have a balance held with the bookmaker, the bookmaker takes bets from the balance.


of course this would involve development costs and losing huge amounts of revenue. Why the fuck would anyone who clearly holds their punters with such utter disdain spend money to lose revenue?


i await the diversionary abuse.

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March 26, 2014, 10:16:50 PM
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To translate mpoe prs post

Bitcoin transactions cannot simply be "invalidated" and it is impossible to block transactions.

It's really not.

You just need to create internal wallets that are your 'account balance' you can bet with your account balance and nothing else. Account balance is only made of confirmed bitcoins, no coins show in balance until confirmed. When bets are placed coins are removed by the system from the internal wallet and all payouts are also paid into the internal wallet. The user can then withdraw from their internal wallet to their personal wallet / wallet of choice.

Or

you can buy credits with bitcoins and only bet with credits. Credits are only issued once transactions are confirmed.

You know, like other bitcoin and non bitcoin betting sites do.

This shit is like an online bookmaker telling you to make a bank transfer for each bet and if the bank transfer reaches them after the bet has closed they keep it. Betting sites don't work like that, you have a balance held with the bookmaker, the bookmaker takes bets from the balance.


of course this would involve development costs and losing huge amounts of revenue. Why the fuck would anyone who clearly holds their punters with such utter disdain spend money to lose revenue?


i await the diversionary abuse.

That is an option but it would go against one of their best features which is that all transactions on the blockchain.

But it would still be incredibly easy as I said to automatically refund late bets.
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March 26, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
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To translate mpoe prs post

Bitcoin transactions cannot simply be "invalidated" and it is impossible to block transactions.

It's really not.

You just need to create internal wallets that are your 'account balance' you can bet with your account balance and nothing else. Account balance is only made of confirmed bitcoins, no coins show in balance until confirmed. When bets are placed coins are removed by the system from the internal wallet and all payouts are also paid into the internal wallet. The user can then withdraw from their internal wallet to their personal wallet / wallet of choice.

Or

you can buy credits with bitcoins and only bet with credits. Credits are only issued once transactions are confirmed.

You know, like other bitcoin and non bitcoin betting sites do.

This shit is like an online bookmaker telling you to make a bank transfer for each bet and if the bank transfer reaches them after the bet has closed they keep it. Betting sites don't work like that, you have a balance held with the bookmaker, the bookmaker takes bets from the balance.


of course this would involve development costs and losing huge amounts of revenue. Why the fuck would anyone who clearly holds their punters with such utter disdain spend money to lose revenue?


i await the diversionary abuse.

That is an option but it would go against one of their best features which is that all transactions on the blockchain.

But it would still be incredibly easy as I said to automatically refund late bets.

They still can.

Ever sold on local bitcoins? all that is done on blockchain too but you can't sell unconfirmed coins. You have a genuine blockchain wallet address, this is your internal local bitcoins wallet, they never move your funds out of it. They simply look at your internal wallet and only let you sell as many coins as are confirmed in there. The equivalent is only taking bets from confirmed coins in a specific wallet address.

Anyway this is about as intelligent as pissing into the wind because nothing I say will have the slightest impact and I hate wasting my time.


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March 26, 2014, 10:29:11 PM
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Circlejerking in here...

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March 27, 2014, 03:03:55 AM
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Circlejerking in here...

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People discussing how other people should run their business.  It's all the minuses of a circlejerk without the happy ending.

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March 27, 2014, 03:07:47 AM
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Circlejerking in here...

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People discussing how other people should run their business.  It's all the minuses of a circlejerk without the happy ending.

More of a PSA that this bullshit rule exist and the people behind the company are scumbags.
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