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Author Topic: [BITLOTTO] Mar 1 draw over $2000 or 50BTC! Tickets now 0.1 BTC for Apr 5  (Read 55110 times)
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March 07, 2012, 12:05:17 PM
Last edit: March 09, 2012, 11:42:05 PM by Otoh
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0.0%   to the Government

bitlotto should change its slogan, from
 "anonymous, transparent, and cheat-proof with a 99% payout!"
to just
 "0.0%   to the Government"


Indeed, though in the creation of coins & in the maintaining of the Bitcoin network & Internets then the gov gets to keep it's tax on the electricity used for this, in my case it's like an 18% sales tax + about 1% other tax that I don't know who that goes to, the power co or the gov, plus the tax they get from the power co's profits & their employees earnings & all the same on hardware, Internet connection services, etc - playing the Bitlotto doesn't really give them any extra revenue on top of what they already takes though

& after you win & then spend your winnings you're taxed by about 20% sales tax on almost anything you buy with them, or for booze & smokes maybe 90% rate, petrol (gas) for a lot, etc etc

that said - BitLotto tax free FTW Tongue

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March 08, 2012, 03:55:09 AM
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50%! WOW!

Perhaps we have been doing it wrong all along. Instead of trying to get big businesses to adopt bitcoin we should try to get the the lottery players of the world to use bitcoin.

Breakdown of BitLotto revenue

0.5%   in profit to BitLotto*
0.5%   in operating costs*
0.0%   in commision to the retailers
0.0%   to the Government
0.0%   for Good Causes
99%    to winners
vs.
above chart

* split 1% since I don't know if BitLotto is profitable.
Nope! LOL. I do it mostly for fun anyways. Perhaps it will make me money in the future. Who knows. If it does really take off I 'll just make it a 99.9% payout.

But as it's been mentioned I think 99% is a REALLY good deal. It's probably the highest payout anywhere! I leave it up the winner to decide how they want to spread or share the wealth. Not some government official telling where it has to go. I really hope some will donate and help others!

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March 08, 2012, 03:56:24 AM
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Ahh.. I bought 4 tickets, no luck here lol:)

I'll buy some more for next month!
Unless you have calculated the winner already it's not over yet! You'll know once I sent the payment and your account balance changes or not! Wink

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Last edit: March 08, 2012, 07:03:57 AM by BurtWagner
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Someone, get busy and calculate the winner!  The suspense is killing me.

EDIT:  DARN I DID NOT WIN!

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March 08, 2012, 04:21:18 AM
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Someone, get busy and calculate the winner!  The suspense is killing me.

LOL. I'll work on it tonight and announce tomorrow. It's actually pretty easy but I like to do it when I have lot's of time so I can go nice and slow and make no mistakes. It would ruin me to make a mistake. I'd be accused of making a mistake just to pay myself.

I hope you understand but I'll aim for tomorrow! Good luck!

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March 08, 2012, 04:47:25 AM
Last edit: March 08, 2012, 05:05:38 AM by BkkCoins
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I'm kind of surprised there isn't an automated presentation of the winner with a manual confirmation following. Aren't the winning numbers public from the MegaWhatever? So either bitlotto or someone else could write a script that figures out the winner (unless I'm missing something, I didn't study it carefully).

I could see wanting to double check manually before sending payment - seeing as how you could not (successfully) ask for funds to be returned.

[edit: I just reviewed the winning details. It seems it would not be difficult to write a script to determine the winner... should I?]

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Last edit: March 08, 2012, 07:17:48 PM by Stephen Gornick
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[edit: I just reviewed the winning details. It seems it would not be difficult to write a script to determine the winner... should I?]

I don't have it automated but I've used this method to verify the winner before:

Determine the lucky block (first block after the deadline): 169953
 - https://blockexplorer.com/b/169953

Hash from that block:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be

Add to that the Mega Millions PowerBall number:
12 35 45 46 47 Mega Ball 12
 - http://www.powerball.com  


[Update: Ooops, MegaMillions picks != PowerBall picks]  all the results I had posted following that are thus invalid.  The correct URL for Mega Millions is:
 - http://www.powerball.com/megamillions/mm_numbers.asp
]

Add those together:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be123545464712

Get the sha256()
 6055a779449804c1a4151c2c61addc5143ba498105c197a2ba8c3a170c03316d
- http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator

The Winning Picks are the first ten from that hash:
  6055a77944

Create the work file.  The address for the March draw was: 1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh
 $ GET http://blockexplorer.com/address/1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh|grep "/tx/"|cut -d " " -f 3|cut -b 11-74 > workfile
 (This grabs the HTML source for all the tickets for the monthly draw address, then cuts away everything but the transaction hashes.)

Remove from workfile any transaction hashes that were disqualified (e.g., entered late, amount was not large enough, etc.)

Determine the longest of the picks where there is at least one match:
 $ grep 6|wc -l  
 $ grep 60|wc -l
 $ grep 605|wc -l
 $ grep 6055|wc -l


There were no transactoin hashes that had 6055, so the winning pick is one of the ones with 605.
 $ grep 605 workfile|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "6"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "0"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "5"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|sort -rk2

This results in:

a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7 6 6 2
17554f9d7de77f067fa6f709155adc4ad60560ca2180b2364d456123192b18f2 6 5 7
72d83f262660589f79c4b09279ffe717735b8f631a83c9413ac1a36a490307e6 6 4 2
5b6a443d317f623c16e7e3f4369bd093d560579dfda4c728d4179ffbfb228651 6 2 4
352c6fc98f21a036a74d12100a838605a5bb0fc7534b1fd6bd9a790f1b8dd976 5 6 5
ca61a3e84def3f879275b07bd41605a340317727948daa095e8555447af66a63 5 4 7
be7ac025e74874cde49640f0d035a2d9465ee1b89700605de8334765cd8f1fe4 4 7 5
98bc4fa7153f2627430210c99605d24c110aad0152834f60c5638713d7324904 4 7 4
ef8605feef9240b75039eb5f975db52a49d8a305138c5f422c22af63e1469e25 3 4 8
b7ec93b1440e21e605b479f36d8f72df89423a24c768709c31880ea49d79d94d 3 4 1


There are multiple hashes that have six "6"s in them, so there are ties.
That tie is broken by looking at how many "0"s there are.  There is one that has more "0"s than any other, so the tie is broken and we have the March winner:
 a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7


That is the winning transaction. Looking at that transaction:
  2012-02-21 00:19:18
 - http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7


There is one one input to that, so that is where the jackpot will be sent:
 1FiJ55znEC14bd4xnoX32jnKus6BUGQstn
 - http://blockexplorer.com/address/1FiJ55znEC14bd4xnoX32jnKus6BUGQstn


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March 08, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
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[edit: I just reviewed the winning details. It seems it would not be difficult to write a script to determine the winner... should I?]

I don't have it automated but I've used this method to verify the winner before:

Determine the lucky block (first block after the deadline): 169953
 - https://blockexplorer.com/b/169953

Hash from that block:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be

Add to that the Mega Millions PowerBall number:
 12 35 45 46 47 Mega Ball 12
 - http://www.powerball.com  

Add those together:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be123545464712

Get the sha256()
 6055a779449804c1a4151c2c61addc5143ba498105c197a2ba8c3a170c03316d
- http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator

The Winning Picks are the first ten from that hash:
  6055a77944

Create the work file.  The address for the March draw was: 1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh
 $ GET http://blockexplorer.com/address/1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh|grep "/tx/"|cut -d " " -f 3|cut -b 11-74 > workfile
 (This grabs the HTML source for all the tickets for the monthly draw address, then cuts away everything but the transaction hashes.)

Remove from workfile any transaction hashes that were disqualified (e.g., entered late, amount was not large enough, etc.)

Determine the longest of the picks where there is at least one match:
 $ grep 6|wc -l  
 $ grep 60|wc -l
 $ grep 605|wc -l
 $ grep 6055|wc -l

There were no transactoin hashes that had 6055, so the winning pick is one of the ones with 605.
 $ grep 605 workfile|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "6"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "0"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "5"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|sort -rk2

This results in:

a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7 6 6 2
17554f9d7de77f067fa6f709155adc4ad60560ca2180b2364d456123192b18f2 6 5 7
72d83f262660589f79c4b09279ffe717735b8f631a83c9413ac1a36a490307e6 6 4 2
5b6a443d317f623c16e7e3f4369bd093d560579dfda4c728d4179ffbfb228651 6 2 4
352c6fc98f21a036a74d12100a838605a5bb0fc7534b1fd6bd9a790f1b8dd976 5 6 5
ca61a3e84def3f879275b07bd41605a340317727948daa095e8555447af66a63 5 4 7
be7ac025e74874cde49640f0d035a2d9465ee1b89700605de8334765cd8f1fe4 4 7 5
98bc4fa7153f2627430210c99605d24c110aad0152834f60c5638713d7324904 4 7 4
ef8605feef9240b75039eb5f975db52a49d8a305138c5f422c22af63e1469e25 3 4 8
b7ec93b1440e21e605b479f36d8f72df89423a24c768709c31880ea49d79d94d 3 4 1

There are multiple hashes that have six "6"s in them, so there are ties.
That tie is broken by looking at how many "0"s there are.  There is one that has more "0"s than any other, so the tie is broken and we have the March winner:
 a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7

That is the winning transaction. Looking at that transaction:
  2012-02-21 00:19:18
 - http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a247d96ebcd90bda3f27f8824a98026c086d0da89dd60ba3d26a3954299605d7

There is one one input to that, so that is where the jackpot will be sent:
 1FiJ55znEC14bd4xnoX32jnKus6BUGQstn
 - http://blockexplorer.com/address/1FiJ55znEC14bd4xnoX32jnKus6BUGQstn

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Now ... these are unofficial, possibly flawed results.  Don't chuck your wallet if it looks like you lost and don't go nuts ordering new GPUs if it looks like you won!

CLOSE! You used the wrong lottery numbers. 20-24-31-33-36 Mega Ball 44 (From draw on 6th or just after 00 UTC on the 7th)

Thanks for posting that. I think I will use some of your methods.
Oh, since the 6's make a tie, when you look at the 0's you are only using the hashes that tied with a 6.

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March 08, 2012, 02:51:49 PM
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Since everyone is eager for a result here it is:

Picks: ee4cea6ea1
Winning hash: e1401f846cff82658f354fbed814ee414deb2fed461eed8c0e4dd3d8fa49d841
Winner: 1Nb2W2F56kuZeKAAhyEAbTomfn3RPt4t2D
Ticket bought approx: 2012-03-06 07:19:02

Of course these are unofficial. I just rushed these off and I'll double check them them before I post to my website.

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March 08, 2012, 02:59:03 PM
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Otoh: When you re-sent for more tickets you still managed to have them all sent at once as one tx. They are separated into 0.25 amounts but they came in all at once with the same tx hash. I'll refund the extra since having multiple tickets with the same hash is pointless. It happened a couple times on this draw....

How did you do that? I just want to make sure it doesn't happen to others to!

eg. https://blockexplorer.com/tx/5955a97fcbdf933a786dc8ef74281cfd7586699c0ebc0872078e7b859f019467

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Otoh: When you re-sent for more tickets you still managed to have them all sent at once as one tx. They are separated into 0.25 amounts but they came in all at once with the same tx hash. I'll refund the extra since having multiple tickets with the same hash is pointless. It happened a couple times on this draw....

How did you do that? I just want to make sure it doesn't happen to others to!

eg. https://blockexplorer.com/tx/5955a97fcbdf933a786dc8ef74281cfd7586699c0ebc0872078e7b859f019467

ah sorry, I used https://blockchain.info/wallet & I may have sent the first 1 or 2 bets singly then I noticed that there was a + button which opens up extra tx to send & copied the details in that multiple times then pressed send as I assumed that they were all separate tx-es, but maybe the wallet seeing that they were all going to the same address then bundled them up - I'm a newb at wallets as you can see - I'll look in to it some more & experiment, I think that I prob did the same for 4 more bets that I made for a friend right after mine, many thanks for going to be returning my mistakes & I will bet them on April's Bitlotto next week - many thanks too for running this service with such fab odds  Smiley

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Otoh: When you re-sent for more tickets you still managed to have them all sent at once as one tx. They are separated into 0.25 amounts but they came in all at once with the same tx hash. I'll refund the extra since having multiple tickets with the same hash is pointless. It happened a couple times on this draw....

How did you do that? I just want to make sure it doesn't happen to others to!

eg. https://blockexplorer.com/tx/5955a97fcbdf933a786dc8ef74281cfd7586699c0ebc0872078e7b859f019467

ah sorry, I used https://blockchain.info/wallet & I may have sent the first 1 or 2 bets singly then I noticed that there was a + button which opens up extra tx to send & copied the details in that multiple times then pressed send as I assumed that they were all separate tx-es, but maybe the wallet seeing that they were all going to the same address then bundled them up - I'm a newb at wallets as you can see - I'll look in to it some more & experiment, I think that I prob did the same for 4 more bets that I made for a friend right after mine, many thanks for going to be returning my mistakes & I will bet them on April's Bitlotto next week - many thanks too for running this service with such fab odds  Smiley
Thanks. Ya, it's probably just allowing you to make multiple outputs as one tx. I'll add a note to my website so others don't do that with blockchain.info/wallet.

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Last edit: March 08, 2012, 08:09:38 PM by Stephen Gornick
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CLOSE! You used the wrong lottery numbers. 20-24-31-33-36 Mega Ball 44 (From draw on 6th or just after 00 UTC on the 7th)

Doh!  The PowerBall draw is not the same as Mega Ball draw.  Wow -- shows you how much interest I have in the State-run lottery.

Oh, since the 6's make a tie, when you look at the 0's you are only using the hashes that tied with a 6.

Isn't that correct?  The details from the site reads:

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If multiple transaction hashes tie for how many picks match, a tie breaker is done. From the tied group, whoever has the most occurrences of the first pick in their entire hash is the winner. When using the first pick as a tie breaker it's possible for each potential winner to have the same count. If that is the case the next pick is looked at to see if a tie can be broken between those who tied with the most matching picks from the previous pick. It continues until all picks are used.
- http://bitlotto.com/details.html

So in that example above [with the wrong Mega Million picks], there were multiple hashes that tied on the first pick (6), but to settle that tie, the next pick was used (0) and there were no further ties.  Is that the correct methodology?

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So, to do that winner selection over, using the correct Mega Millions lottery picks this time.

Determine the lucky block (first block after the deadline): 169953
 - https://blockexplorer.com/b/169953

Hash from that block:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be

Add to that hash the Mega Millions picks:
20 24 31 33 36 Mega Ball 44
 - http://www.powerball.com/megamillions/mm_numbers.asp

Append the picks to the block hash and you get:
 00000000000005300076544c21d2f352480c1efb4c1cec75125223f66a7015be202431333644

Get the sha256()
 ee4cea6ea146419c874279bce52be30159b11709915d19efecd94a9a1a3f4222
 - http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator

The Winning Picks are the first ten from that hash:
 ee4cea6ea1

Create the work file.  The address for the March draw was: 1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh
 $ GET http://blockexplorer.com/address/1CdGqgJegokVaW5tPgC2vy3dZciggARdmh|grep "/tx/"|cut -d " " -f 3|cut -b 11-74 > workfile
 (This grabs the HTML source for all the tickets for the monthly draw address, then cuts away everything but the transaction hashes.)

Remove from workfile any transaction hashes that were disqualified (e.g., entered late, amount was not large enough, etc.)

Determine the longest of the picks where there is at least one match:
 $ grep e workfile|wc -l
 $ grep ee workfile||wc -l
 $ grep ee4 workfile|wc -l
 $ grep ee4c workfile|wc -l

There were no transactoin hashes that had ee4c, so the winning pick is one of the ones with ee4.
 $ grep ee4 workfile|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "e"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "e"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|awk 'BEGIN {FS = "4"};{print $0 " " NF-1}'|sort -rk2

This results in:

e1401f846cff82658f354fbed814ee414deb2fed461eed8c0e4dd3d8fa49d841 9 9 10
4e1c5454c7f13b66b39f162ec22fdd3d949d5f406e80ee4f6b07ea055906f821 6 6 6
e15ddfbf7a0ab05840f630427c1d18b6d680cfc443defd3c86ecbf87eee49a91 6 6 5
6e0c6874fc4ba9c55fbc269829e6868f058f6249a5249b8ed8ee490b8407699f 5 5 6
5677bf49d4595ca999dd2322732e64530d29b8b2eb76ef14f877520ee45f8dac 5 5 5
70141509656d93ee42651929c29fb9e65318474e02a01fc99cb6783262ffc2a3 4 4 6
f88e31a5e1f57330f384381926c5294553a31b90850925bc6ba6ff83951aee43 4 4 5

There was just one hash that had the most "e"s in it (9) -- so there were no ties.

If there had been, that tie would be broken by performing the same test for the next pick.  Since in this months lotto, the second pick was the same as the first so we would still have a tie so would then move onto the next pick -- in this case, "4".  If that pick too had resulted in a tie then the test would be done using next pick after that, in this case the "c", and so on until either there are no ties or until all ten picks have been used in the tests.  

So at this point, the one entry becomes the winner:
 e1401f846cff82658f354fbed814ee414deb2fed461eed8c0e4dd3d8fa49d841

That is the winning transaction. Looking at that transaction:
  2012-03-06 07:19:02
 - http://blockexplorer.com/tx/e1401f846cff82658f354fbed814ee414deb2fed461eed8c0e4dd3d8fa49d841

There is one one input to that, so that is where the jackpot will be sent:
 1Nb2W2F56kuZeKAAhyEAbTomfn3RPt4t2D

This [unofficial] result jives with the unofficial result posted by bitlotto earlier.

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March 08, 2012, 08:10:05 PM
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"There is one one input to that, so that is where the jackpot will be sent:
 1Nb2W2F56kuZeKAAhyEAbTomfn3RPt4t2D"

lucky Tom looks like they bought just the 1 ticket at 0.25 BTC for a jackpot win > 100 BTC = WTG!

I'm happy to have contributed to hopefully making your day more awesome, though it would have been more so if I had learnt how to manage my wallets correctly & not had so many bets returned, next month they'll all be wagered again tho' & you could afford to splash out on say 4 bets or something this time maybe Wink

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CLOSE! You used the wrong lottery numbers. 20-24-31-33-36 Mega Ball 44 (From draw on 6th or just after 00 UTC on the 7th)

Doh!  The PowerBall draw is not the same as Mega Ball draw.  Wow -- shows you how much interest I have in the State-run lottery.

Oh, since the 6's make a tie, when you look at the 0's you are only using the hashes that tied with a 6.

Isn't that correct?  
Yup. Sorry, I incorrectly read what you wrote. I thought you were looking at the whole group of tied entries when looking at the second pick.

Thank you so much for checking the results and posting it here. I like some of your short cuts!!!
It also helps demonstrate that the winner is beyond my control and something that is just calculated! THANK YOU!

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Results posted on bitlotto.com:

and "Tom" it is-

Jackpot size: 102.46 BTC
Lucky Block: 169953 Mega Millions Numbers: 20 24 31 33 36 Mega Ball 44
Winning Picks: ee4cea6ea1
Winner's Hash: e1401f846cff82658f354fbed814ee414deb2fed461eed8c0e4dd3d8fa49d841
Winner: 1Nb2W2F56kuZeKAAhyEAbTomfn3RPt4t2D

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I like some of your short cuts!!!

Well, be careful when taking shortcuts though.  For instance, using BlockExplorer.com's HTML to get the list of tickets.  There is no guarantee that BlockExplorer is truly representing the blockchain.  The operator of it is trustworthy but what if the site is compromised somehow -- an attacker could manipulate the response page(s) to cause the wrong ticket to appear as the winner.  At some point, BitLottto's jackpot becomes tempting for a hacker.

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I like some of your short cuts!!!

Well, be careful when taking shortcuts though.  For instance, using BlockExplorer.com's HTML to get the list of tickets.  There is no guarantee that BlockExplorer is truly representing the blockchain.  The operator of it is trustworthy but what if the site is compromised somehow -- an attacker could manipulate the response page(s) to cause the wrong ticket to appear as the winner.  At some point, BitLottto's jackpot becomes tempting for a hacker.

Yes, I TOTALLY agree. If the jackpot gets big enough using any single site is a risk. I try checking with multiple sites.

What I'd REALLY like is a script that you:
-input first 8 digits or so of BitLotto address
-input draw date
-input ticket price
-input mega millions numbers (no single digits so 2 is 02 for example)

The script then scans a local copy of the blockchain finds all tx that meet the price or above/date deadline, lists them, then finds the winner all automatically.

I know there are python scripts that can read the blockchain that are open source I just don't have the experience to do it. I was going to have someone make one for me but I don't really have money. I figured one day when my life settles down a bit I'll learn python and try doing it myself...unless someone beats me to it.

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March 09, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
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I like some of your short cuts!!!

Well, be careful when taking shortcuts though.  For instance, using BlockExplorer.com's HTML to get the list of tickets.  There is no guarantee that BlockExplorer is truly representing the blockchain.  The operator of it is trustworthy but what if the site is compromised somehow -- an attacker could manipulate the response page(s) to cause the wrong ticket to appear as the winner.  At some point, BitLottto's jackpot becomes tempting for a hacker.

Another thing I try to do is get the data before the mega millions draw. That way it's impossible for the hacker to know what to manipulate. It's not until after the mega millions draw would the hacker know what to alter the website to.

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can any one help please, I am now sending my bets in @ BTC 0.25 a time (for 10 BTC that's like 40 tx which is rather a pain but still), I'm using blockchain.info wallet & every time I tx it takes some random amount from my wallet balance & sends it out/back to me so that I very quickly (after 2 or 3 tx) have no confirmed balance & have to wait a while before the blockchain frees up my coins again before I can send some more, this is taking hours! I'm new to using wallets & have heard that is is one of the weird thing Bitcoin does, is there any way to avoid this or a work around so that it doesn't take forever just to place 10 BTC worth of bets? Many thanks.

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