Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies.

[Zin-Zang]

The Bitcoin Core fork also claims to be Bitcoin.  

I believe you are wrong. The Bitcoin Core, BTCC developers are praising Bitcoin as still the "king".

Check their website, https://thebitcoincore.org/

Personally I think the original bitcoin died when the Community was unable to find consensus to fix the scaling problems

Bitcoin is still intact after the miners activated BIP91. There was no chain split.

and forked in two different directions,

No it was Bitcoin Cash that forked to be an altcoin.

and now you have two non-bitcoin coins claiming to be bitcoin, when in truth neither is.  

Only a moron would believe that.

I believe that the Bitcoin Cash community would be better without Roger Ver. He is destroying the coin's reputation.

Sorry the segwit branch is a fork , no matter how you put it.
Otherwise remove all segwit updated clients and if your segwit address still work without it , then it is the original, otherwise you're just plain wrong.  

LOL, now it is funny that some bcore fanatics are so insane about BTC being labeled bcore, that they create a new hard fork and a web site.

Here the deal, there was already a Bcash coin , when you guys labeled BCH bcash against their wishes.
So it looks like turnabout is fairplay , and they are doing the exact same to you,
creating a false coin trying to prevent it , LOL, is beyond silly, but go ahead as rational ideas seem to hurt you.  

You dear angry person hate Bitcoin Cash BCH and Roger Ver, as no neutral person would complain for this many days.
What would any BCH bcash supporters listen to you as you definitely do not have their best interests at heart.  

So look , you keep being angry and sprouting off what the coin supporters for another coin (that you hate) should do,
and don't be surprise when they just keep ignoring you.  

I've got better things to do , Peace Out hippie.  




FYI:
BCH=Bitcoin Cash=Bcash
BTC=Bitcoin Core =Bcore  (no matter how many fake coins you guys create.)  

  

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[JollyGood]

He has ruined the bitcoin cash project completely. He might have had made quick bucks but lost all credibility.

Many believe Roger Ver lost his reputation when he made the video praising MtGox after he visited their office just before the whole thing collapsed.

[JollyGood]

This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

The lawsuit will not go ahead because of lack of funding

[KingScorpio]

This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

The lawsuit will not go ahead because of lack of funding

of course not,

the entire bitcoin cryptocommunity is just a bunch of lambo seeking greedy speculators, its not even clear which bitcoin is the true bitcoin as soon all bitcoins will say they are the true original bitcoin.

[franky1]

any way.. while the core defenders keep up the distraction drama of core vs cash.. pointing fingers while barry silbert grabs the branding.

No Roger Ver is the person saying "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin". I have a suggestion for you. Start calling Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin and pray very hard that it will come true. Maybe that will make you happy.

what people are not looking at is that while being told cash is the threat. which its not. other currencies are making a move for the top spot..
but hey. let the core devs and their fans point fingers away from the real big picture.

Bitcoin Cash is the threat? What a laugh! Hahaha.

may all core fans enjoy your little cabin fever of an echo chamber

Echo chamber of truth, not Roger Ver's lies. Bitcoin Cash has a chance to be a good cryptocurrency if Roger Ver was not there to ruin its reputation.

analogy of a core dev/fanboy
"everyone look at this annoying pimple on my right arm.. but dont look at the skin cancer on the left arm. and definetly dont notice the entire body"

Are you frustrated that you have failed to convince the forum in believing Roger Ver's lies?
Roger Ver is destroying Bitcoin Cash's reputation. You do not need a lying fraudster like him.

you are soo fooled by the drama.. that you have stuck yourself between kylie and khloe kardashian.. and cant see things outside of the kardashian drama.

ver and theymos are financialy related by the same family agent. but pretending to hate each other and pretending they are totally different (jenner vs kardashian) but from the outside its all kardashian drama of one family.

its like kylie and khloe suing each other to be able to copyright "kardashian" so that their family can then mak money out of it.
the only thing is no real outside person has had financial loss due to the drama. so the lawsuit wont make anyone whole. as there is no one at loss. and the drama is just about copyright decision of who deserves the brand being decided in court

i have never defended ver. and i am not team cash.
but because you are stuck so deep in the drama you can only see core vs cash.

yes i hate cores centralisation. but that does not mean automatically im cash..

you need to learn decentralisation. declining to wish to learn decentralisation is something that is only going to affect your abilities and your understanding. so its in your best interest to learn what real decentralisation is.

i really do laugh at the core centralists who think that if anyone hates core, they must be thrown out the network and be callled part of another altcoin.. i pitty core centralists.

but continue in your core centralist cabin and chat only in the echo chamber of core fans. and never learn decentralisation. because its what appears that you are already intending to do.
your lack of understanding, and lack of research outside of your echo chamber has been very revealing.

have a nice day.

if though. in a few months. your core loyalty wanes and you decide you want to open your mind. to the whole big picture

check out the core devs, gmax defined what a bilateral split was and yes segwit split. from the old network(v20000000)
check the blockchain after block 478558 for about 2000 blocks (core network rejected v20000000 blocks to activate segwit)
yep core network rejected blocks and also ban hammered any nodes that tried relaying blocks of that old format

but im sure you wiill ignore the immutible network/tenicals. and instead scream 'but look at ver'
P.S ver is not even a coder. ver did not even create cash. thats how funny this drama is. ver did not create cash.

[JollyGood]

@franky1

Please if you want to be taken seriously you should reduce the length of all future posts, they are too long 

[Coin-1]

Actually, Bitcoin Cash was created, because the part of Bitcoin miners didn't approve the deploying of the new Segregation Witness technology onto the blockchain of Bitcoin in August 2017. Also, in comparing to the old Bitcoin, BCH has some advantages such as an increasing the maximal block size up to 8 megabytes and a reducing the time interval to recalculate difficulty of mining. On this site is used the correct ticker BCH, non BTC. To be honest, neither the current Bitcoin nor Bitcoin Cash has no the copyright to own the trademark "Bitcoin", therefore I guess the animosity between these crypto currencies will go on further.

[jpnl0008]

The website run by roger van is known as a bitcoin site by people who have little o no idea about the blockchain technology and he seizes that opportunity to carry out what he feels is right in his own mindset to enrich or continue his business but if it is a 50/50 chance, the newbies are supposed to consult different sources before doing anything.

[Sandijoee]

This is a bad action, I do not know who is roger ver. But if it is true that he is true to deceive beginners, it is an evil act. Beginners should be taught, not in hokey. May he get the proper punishment.

[KingScorpio]

@franky1

Please if you want to be taken seriously you should reduce the length of all future posts, they are too long  

one merit for this

oh and btw. the current crackdown on security and project coins by the nasaa is trying to reduce the entire cryptoindustry to the energywasting propaganda coins and their battle for attention and recognition. that roger ver is currently fighting with bitcoin.

https://www.cryptoproductivity.com/single-post/Securities-A-meaningful-emerging-Battlefield-against-the-Banking-Cartells-and-their-lobbism-and-the-real-deal-for-Cryptoeconomics

[jhonnydeep87]

I feel that these kind of lawsuits will never get off the ground, or are doomed for failure if they ever get started. When nobody owns the Bitcoin trademark and there are thousands of forks getting generated which use the Bitcoin brand, it would be tough to point fingers at Roger Ver and Bitcoin Cash.

For me Roger Ver has damaged the confidence of the people because he wanted to sink the bitcoin price slowly so that the project he has now bitcoin cash wants to be a number. It is very difficult because it takes extra hard work takes a long time.

[KingScorpio]

I feel that these kind of lawsuits will never get off the ground, or are doomed for failure if they ever get started. When nobody owns the Bitcoin trademark and there are thousands of forks getting generated which use the Bitcoin brand, it would be tough to point fingers at Roger Ver and Bitcoin Cash.

For me Roger Ver has damaged the confidence of the people because he wanted to sink the bitcoin price slowly so that the project he has now bitcoin cash wants to be a number. It is very difficult because it takes extra hard work takes a long time.

thats a systematic of the new market environment bitcoin is now operating in.

ripple wasnt able to create the new "cryptomarket" as no one dared to create an exchange and a news channel and all other industry related startups because ripple acted in legal context, and no real freedom revolution was possible.

only bitcoin was able to create and start the entire cryptoeconomy as it was designed like something i call "ram coin" a weapon to destroy the bankers influence and dictatorship.

you are facing logical market forces now presureing bitcoin and roger ver is just one realisation of that marketforces

i have described them in:

https://www.cryptoproductivity.com/single-post/2018/04/10/bitcoin-just-temporary-ram-coin

[Wind_FURY]

The Bitcoin Core fork also claims to be Bitcoin.  

I believe you are wrong. The Bitcoin Core, BTCC developers are praising Bitcoin as still the "king".

Check their website, https://thebitcoincore.org/

Personally I think the original bitcoin died when the Community was unable to find consensus to fix the scaling problems

Bitcoin is still intact after the miners activated BIP91. There was no chain split.

and forked in two different directions,

No it was Bitcoin Cash that forked to be an altcoin.

and now you have two non-bitcoin coins claiming to be bitcoin, when in truth neither is.  

Only a moron would believe that.

I believe that the Bitcoin Cash community would be better without Roger Ver. He is destroying the coin's reputation.

Sorry the segwit branch is a fork , no matter how you put it.
Otherwise remove all segwit updated clients and if your segwit address still work without it , then it is the original, otherwise you're just plain wrong.  

Yes a non-contentious soft fork that the miners agreed to activate with NO chain split.

LOL, now it is funny that some bcore fanatics are so insane about BTC being labeled bcore, that they create a new hard fork and a web site.

Plus it is a fork of the original Bitcoin Cash chain called Bitcoin Clashic which essentially makes it the real Bitcoin Cash.

Here the deal, there was already a Bcash coin , when you guys labeled BCH bcash against their wishes.
So it looks like turnabout is fairplay , and they are doing the exact same to you,
creating a false coin trying to prevent it , LOL, is beyond silly, but go ahead as rational ideas seem to hurt you.  

Its does not hurt me at all. But I will not stop debating your false claims.

You dear angry person hate Bitcoin Cash BCH and Roger Ver, as no neutral person would complain for this many days.
What would any BCH bcash supporters listen to you as you definitely do not have their best interests at heart.  

Angry? No, I want Bitcoin Cash to be succesful. I am closely following its development which some of it might also benefit Bitcoin like the enabling of the OPcodes and the increase of the OP_RETURN field.

So look , you keep being angry and sprouting off what the coin supporters for another coin (that you hate) should do,
and don't be surprise when they just keep ignoring you.  

I believe they are ignoring you. They know you are trolling.

I've got better things to do , Peace Out hippie.  




FYI:
BCH=Bitcoin Cash=Bcash
BTC=Bitcoin Core =Bcore  (no matter how many fake coins you guys create.)  

Bitcoin = Bitcoin
Bitcoin Cash = altcoin.

[JollyGood]

For me Roger Ver has damaged the confidence of the people because he wanted to sink the bitcoin price slowly so that the project he has now bitcoin cash wants to be a number. It is very difficult because it takes extra hard work takes a long time.

Many agree with you. Very sad actually that Roger Ver has done that.

[KingScorpio]

Bitcoin = Bitcoin
Bitcoin Cash = altcoin.

bitcoin is also an altcoin this is a bitcoin centric point of view and you can count on it, it will be opposed. together with the bitcoin sects's arrogant

NOCOINER, campaign in the timessquare

regards

[mdrakibul]

They make binding rulings/judgments on domain name disputes. If the team behind bitcoin.org make a complaint and that complaint is upheld then the bitcoin.com domain will be transferred therefore ownership and all dns etc will not be in the control of Roger Ver.If another developer created a client that a majority of users preferred, there's nothing to prevent a change in the rules.  The other developer wouldn't have to follow Core's processes if they had adequate support from the users.  But that's yet to happen.  Because of the users.  Not because of Core's processes.  It seems you're the one who doesn't like consensus when you don't agree with it. 
Dev teams push code.  Users enforce it.  All that's happening here is that the vast preponderance of users disagree with you and they aren't going to let you rename their network.

[Bitcoinnumberone]

This has been talked about on this forum. Roger Ver has been (supposedly) misleading newbies, making them believe that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin:

A group of cryptocurrency enthusiasts is considering filing a lawsuit against Bitcoin.com owner Roger Ver, claiming he deliberately misleads novice investors by exploiting newbies’ confusion between bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash, which forked off the original cryptocurrency in August 2017.

The potential class-action lawsuit is being organized by Twitter user @MoneyTrigz, who is the co-owner of Coindaily.co.

The lawsuit is being discussed in a Telegram chatroom called “Bitcoin.com lawsuit/victims,” which anyone can join. The chatroom already has more than 444 members, but it’s unclear how many of them will join the lawsuit.

Ver (also known as “Bitcoin Jesus”) was an early investor in bitcoin startups. He previously backed the original Bitcoin, but has since become an outspoken advocate of its derivative, Bitcoin Cash.
Critics: Ver Is Committing ‘Consumer Fraud’

According to Wallet Investor, Ver is deliberately misusing the “bitcoin” name on his website Bitcoin.com — a hub that sells bitcoin and bitcoin cash — to fool gullible investors into buying the wrong bitcoin.

“Considering the site is named Bitcoin.com and is also a hub for selling Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Cloud mining contracts, this could potentially deceive novice investors and newcomers into buying the wrong Bitcoin.”

....

In the lawsuit chatroom on Telegram, the consensus of cryptocurrency evangelists is that Ver is an unethical “scumbag” who deserves to be sued into oblivion.

One person wrote, “He can rot in hell for that. Will lose noobs’ money sending to wrong addresses. Hurting Bitcoin in the process.”

Another forum member wondered, “How is he allowed to get away with this?”

Still another person summed up the group’s collective sentiment, “I support this movement. Roger Ver is a scumbag.”


More info: https://btcmanager.com/bitcoin-jesus-roger-ver-may-be-sued-for-defrauding-bitcoin-investors/

What do you think about? If he is finally sued and fined and/or put in jail again, I am not going to cry.

For me roger ver takes bitcoin slowly, They mislead newbies you need to search and be wise in roger ver. Difference between Bitcoin and altcoin, The altcoin is bitcoin cash, I think that bitcoin cash community is better than roger ver. They destroy bitcoin he ruined the reputation of coins.

[JollyGood]

For me roger ver takes bitcoin slowly, They mislead newbies you need to search and be wise in roger ver. Difference between Bitcoin and altcoin, The altcoin is bitcoin cash, I think that bitcoin cash community is better than roger ver. They destroy bitcoin he ruined the reputation of coins.

Without doubt you are correct Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin, it should never be used as a tool to try to overthrow Bitcoin until or unless the majority of the community say otherwise.

[semutracing]

I see the website is currently fixing bitcoin instead of bitcoin money and it seems that ver roger is trying to make people think that bitcoin is bitcoin cash so change it that way but in my opinion it is not good and it reflects the badness of bitcoin cash

[Wind_FURY]

any way.. while the core defenders keep up the distraction drama of core vs cash.. pointing fingers while barry silbert grabs the branding.

No Roger Ver is the person saying "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin". I have a suggestion for you. Start calling Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin and pray very hard that it will come true. Maybe that will make you happy.

what people are not looking at is that while being told cash is the threat. which its not. other currencies are making a move for the top spot..
but hey. let the core devs and their fans point fingers away from the real big picture.

Bitcoin Cash is the threat? What a laugh! Hahaha.

may all core fans enjoy your little cabin fever of an echo chamber

Echo chamber of truth, not Roger Ver's lies. Bitcoin Cash has a chance to be a good cryptocurrency if Roger Ver was not there to ruin its reputation.

analogy of a core dev/fanboy
"everyone look at this annoying pimple on my right arm.. but dont look at the skin cancer on the left arm. and definetly dont notice the entire body"

Are you frustrated that you have failed to convince the forum in believing Roger Ver's lies?
Roger Ver is destroying Bitcoin Cash's reputation. You do not need a lying fraudster like him.

you are soo fooled by the drama.. that you have stuck yourself between kylie and khloe kardashian.. and cant see things outside of the kardashian drama.

No, you are trying to avoid the issue that you are a follower of Roger Ver and support his idea that Bitcoin "bilaterally split in two" so that you can fraudulently say that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin".



Is that statement right to you?

ver and theymos are financialy related by the same family agent. but pretending to hate each other and pretending they are totally different (jenner vs kardashian) but from the outside its all kardashian drama of one family.

Theymos is not going to conferences and fraudulently tell people that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" like Roger Ver. Do not pull Theymos down to Roger Ver's level.

The Kardashians drama

if though. in a few months. your core loyalty wanes and you decide you want to open your mind. to the whole big picture

check out the core devs, gmax defined what a bilateral split was and yes segwit split. from the old network(v20000000)
check the blockchain after block 478558 for about 2000 blocks (core network rejected v20000000 blocks to activate segwit)
yep core network rejected blocks and also ban hammered any nodes that tried relaying blocks of that old format

It was the miners who activated BIP91 that enabled the way to activate Segwit and not the Core developers. There was no chain split in Bitcoin. It was Bitcoin Cash that split away to become an altcoin.

but im sure you wiill ignore the immutible network/tenicals. and instead scream 'but look at ver'
P.S ver is not even a coder. ver did not even create cash. thats how funny this drama is. ver did not create cash.

Yes, "but look at Ver" the fraud. Bitcoin Cash would be a better coin and community without him. Do you agree or not?