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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one) |
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January 31, 2014, 09:22:45 PM |
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Approaching page 1440. We'll be there in 1 day? What a glorious battle we fought.
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Might perhaps this show that BCNext is one of top cryptographers in the world?
We could ask him to do the audit of NRS crypto algo for 10 BTC...  I seriously doubt it. The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff. That was borderline pathetic. you are a raging retard if you dont understand what this allows. and its still possible to implement a wallet.dat type of client if so desired. the fact that you dont seem to understand this tells me you have no clue on how to dev a coin If you don't think it was pathetic, then I would argue that you don't have a clue. I guess for you, it was perfectly okay that folks lost their Nxt because they had a secret phrase of 8 digits. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:26:23 PM |
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I seriously doubt it. The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff. That was borderline pathetic.
So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
If you don't think it was pathetic, then I would argue that you don't have a clue.
I guess for you, it was perfectly okay that folks lost their Nxt because they had a secret phrase of 8 digits.
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January 31, 2014, 09:26:37 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one) If you don't know the answer, then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:29:10 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one) If you don't know the answer, then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else. I know the answer, I could give you line numbers inside this file: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/src/4073c21098076d3469b3f74d49e73ffabe3a2001/Nxt.java?at=masterbut tell me, why would I possibly want to do that? |
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January 31, 2014, 09:29:32 PM |
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@Come-from-Beyond
Any news relating the mixing feature?
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January 31, 2014, 09:30:25 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage. Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all. Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:31:26 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one) If you don't know the answer, then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else. Stating assumptions as truth. That's another one.  Edit: sorry, smaragda  |
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January 31, 2014, 09:32:45 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage. Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all. Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT. Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger! In short, if you got a fork, you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:33:41 PM |
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Any news relating the mixing feature?
No news. It's good news, right? |
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January 31, 2014, 09:34:45 PM |
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Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!
In short, if you got a fork, you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.
It's interesting, do u really believe that u r right? |
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January 31, 2014, 09:34:54 PM |
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So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).
What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?
U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage. Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all. Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT. Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger! In short, if you got a fork, you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database. It will survive it... Ok, It actually won't survive partition, if some government decides to cut off "teh internetz" (i.e. think of Great Firewall of China) Then folks on behind that firewall will obviously end-up on a fork (but there's no coin that would solve that) |
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January 31, 2014, 09:35:59 PM |
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Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!
In short, if you got a fork, you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.
It's interesting, do u really believe that u r right? Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork. That's what I'm trying to understand here. Actually, I want to know if Nxt is a worthless piece of junk or something that is worth building on top of. So far, it looks like the former, until I can get a better explanation from someone. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:37:35 PM |
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Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork. That's what I'm trying to understand here.
I don't see u trying. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:38:36 PM |
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@Come-from-Beyond
Any news relating the mixing feature?
No news. It's good news, right? Depends. If we have a solution, it's good. If we don't, then it isn't. What's the current status? I dropped out the other day because I needed some sleep. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:39:07 PM |
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Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork. That's what I'm trying to understand here.
I don't see u trying. I don't see you with an explanation. I don't see how you are handling the current Nxt fork that is happening right now. |
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January 31, 2014, 09:41:57 PM |
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Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork. That's what I'm trying to understand here.
I don't see u trying. I don't see you with an explanation. I don't see how you are handling the current Nxt fork that is happening right now. WHAT FORK IS HAPPENING NOW? U MAD? fork that was mentioned in this thread happens to people using OLD version of NRS? Are you really that ignorant or do you just want to spread chaos and misinformation? |
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January 31, 2014, 09:42:06 PM |
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Can you please go discuss with FC in his own NEX thread.
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January 31, 2014, 09:42:26 PM |
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Any news relating the mixing feature?
No news. It's good news, right? Depends. If we have a solution, it's good. If we don't, then it isn't. What's the current status? I dropped out the other day because I needed some sleep. Here's the dev thread for integrating ZeroCoin/ZeroCash in top of Nxt using AM. https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=701There was also discussion on it in this thread over the past day or two. |
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