NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[FrictionlessCoin]

Ok... which part of the the C.A.P. does Nxt preserve?

Nxt has eventual consistency (like Bitcoin). Does this answer ur question?

No it does not,  name 2 out of the 3  of the CAP theorem that is satisfied by Nxt?

Actually it does answer the question. Use the force brain, Luke.

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

[Damelon]

Troll night.
Some people didn't get dates...  

And some folks (not just you specifically ) keep feeding the trolls :rolleyes:

In this case: guilty as charged 

I don't normally get really upset, but I basically get very angry with people who have double standards and play dirty games by twisting words.
It would be OK if he genuinely was trolling, but this guy is using so many wellknown tricks in the book of con artists that it's ridiculous.

Suggestive phrasing, selective quoting, selective ignoring, turning around the burden of proof, framing, the list goes on.

The guy has "used car salesman" written all over in the worst sense of the term.

[opticalcarrier]

Might perhaps this show that BCNext is one of top cryptographers in the world?

We could ask him to do the audit of NRS crypto algo for 10 BTC...  

I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.

you are a raging retard if you dont understand what this allows.  and its still possible to implement a wallet.dat type of client if so desired.  the fact that you dont seem to understand this tells me you have no clue on how to dev a coin

[salsacz]

is there a minimum donation? i wana help but dont have very much atall compared to you guys.. :/

thank you, now you are listed as a first donator for the conference fund
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

other already told others

[gimre]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one)

[ChuckOne]

Approaching page 1440. We'll be there in 1 day? What a glorious battle we fought.

[FrictionlessCoin]

Might perhaps this show that BCNext is one of top cryptographers in the world?

We could ask him to do the audit of NRS crypto algo for 10 BTC...  

I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.

you are a raging retard if you dont understand what this allows.  and its still possible to implement a wallet.dat type of client if so desired.  the fact that you dont seem to understand this tells me you have no clue on how to dev a coin

If you don't think it was pathetic,  then I would argue that you don't have a clue.

I guess for you, it was perfectly okay that folks lost their Nxt because they had a secret phrase of 8 digits.

[instacalm]

I seriously doubt it.   The way he coded the 'secret phrase' stuff.  That was borderline pathetic.

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

If you don't think it was pathetic,  then I would argue that you don't have a clue.

I guess for you, it was perfectly okay that folks lost their Nxt because they had a secret phrase of 8 digits.

[FrictionlessCoin]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one)

If you don't know the answer,  then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else.

[gimre]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one)

If you don't know the answer,  then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else.

I know the answer, I could give you line numbers inside this file:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/src/4073c21098076d3469b3f74d49e73ffabe3a2001/Nxt.java?at=master

but tell me, why would I possibly want to do that?

[ChuckOne]

@Come-from-Beyond

Any news relating the mixing feature?

[Come-from-Beyond]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage.

Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all.

Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT.

[Damelon]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

You'll find the answer to that question in the source... (yes even the published flawed one)

If you don't know the answer,  then don't pretend the answer is somewhere else.

Stating assumptions as truth. That's another one.

Edit: sorry, smaragda

[FrictionlessCoin]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage.

Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all.

Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT.

Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

[Come-from-Beyond]

@Come-from-Beyond

Any news relating the mixing feature?

No news.

It's good news, right?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

It's interesting, do u really believe that u r right?

[gimre]

So you are saying that it can maintain availability (which I agree) and survive partitioning ( which I don't think so).

What is in the algorithm for Nxt that makes it tolerant to partitioning?

U confuse partitioning of network with partitioning of data storage.

Nxt has very high Availability coz all the data is stored in the blockchain. The blockchain can't be partitioned, that's why Partition tolerance issue doesn't arise at all.

Partition tolerance is important for other data storage schemes, for example, DHT.

Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

It will survive it...

Ok, It actually won't survive partition, if some government decides to cut off
"teh internetz" (i.e. think of Great Firewall of China)

Then folks on behind that firewall will obviously end-up on a fork
(but there's no coin that would solve that)

[FrictionlessCoin]

Are you brain dead.... the block chain is a global ledger!

In short, if you got a fork,  you got an inconsistent ledger or in other words and inconsistend database.

It's interesting, do u really believe that u r right?

Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork.  That's what I'm trying to understand here.

Actually,  I want to know if Nxt is a worthless piece of junk or something that is worth building on top of.   So far, it looks like the former, until I can get a better explanation from someone.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Well, I would like to know how Nxt handles a fork.  That's what I'm trying to understand here.

I don't see u trying.

[ChuckOne]

@Come-from-Beyond

Any news relating the mixing feature?

No news.

It's good news, right?

Depends.

If we have a solution, it's good. If we don't, then it isn't.

What's the current status? I dropped out the other day because I needed some sleep.