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November 29, 2013, 07:08:54 AM
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Another thing, is what if one stakeholder feels like the others would "take care of" NXT distribution so he could hoard his? We're absolutely counting on them to distribute the coins.

I don't understand why ya'll are getting so defensive with this issue. I don't think you guys realize how dangerous this is.

I thank you for the 5000K NXT.

My stake is not high, but I would donate some Nxt if it was easier to send them. With the current client it's a matter of luck to get a transaction going, so I'm waiting for a stable client.

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November 29, 2013, 07:26:56 AM
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I would donate some Nxt if it was easier to send them. With the current client it's a matter of luck to get a transaction going, so I'm waiting for a stable client.
- strange. I've sent 59 transactions so far, and have no such problems at all.
You should send couns only when your client is mining ("You can generate the next block in dd days hh hours mm minutes ss seconds" above the "Recent blocks [n]" vidget).

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November 29, 2013, 07:31:05 AM
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I would donate some Nxt if it was easier to send them. With the current client it's a matter of luck to get a transaction going, so I'm waiting for a stable client.
- strange. I've sent 59 transactions so far, and have no such problems at all.
You should send couns only when your client is mining ("You can generate the next block in dd days hh hours mm minutes ss seconds" above the "Recent blocks [n]" vidget).

It's just a coincidence. U can send coins only if u unlocked an account. If u unlocked an account it will be mining (usually).
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November 29, 2013, 07:48:45 AM
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- strange. I've sent 59 transactions so far, and have no such problems at all.
You should send couns only when your client is mining ("You can generate the next block in dd days hh hours mm minutes ss seconds" above the "Recent blocks [n]" vidget).

Curious. How many peers do you usually have? I've been trying to send from my local machine since the day Nxt was launched - zilch. Blocks all up to date but nothing goes through. But when I send through my VPS, 100% success. I think if you're at the fringes of your group of peers, it's really hard to send. Imagine trying to send from Invercargill or the Diego Ramirez Islands. I'm not connecting from there, but close!

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November 29, 2013, 08:03:01 AM
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Curious. How many peers do you usually have? ...  But when I send through my VPS, 100% success.
- 27 peers at the time moment. And yes, I'm sending from my VPS, too.

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November 29, 2013, 08:09:49 AM
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i'm beginning to think there is something wrong i cant see any blocks but the original block and there are no transactions. :/ anyone else having this problem or have discovered a fix?


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November 29, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
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i'm beginning to think there is something wrong i cant see any blocks but the original block and there are no transactions. :/ anyone else having this problem or have discovered a fix?

Do u have any connected peers in [Active peers] list? If no, check ur time/timezone is correct.
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November 29, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
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i'm beginning to think there is something wrong i cant see any blocks but the original block and there are no transactions. :/ anyone else having this problem or have discovered a fix?

Do u have any connected peers in [Active peers] list? If no, check ur time/timezone is correct.
i have 13 peers active right now. still no blocks


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November 29, 2013, 08:20:07 AM
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i have 13 peers active right now. still no blocks

Green or red peers? Try to delete peers.nxt and relaunch the client. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67242472/nxtfiles.zip can help a bit.
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November 29, 2013, 08:22:41 AM
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I have 10 active peers, 16 blacklisted.

For some reason my UI isn't showing me a prediction of how long until the next block is generated.

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146.185.168.142		146.185.168.142		144'851 B		134'098 B		-0.089 s	
176.12.21.139 176.12.21.139 128'457 B 89'974 B -0.076 s
trigger.dy.fi trigger.dy.fi 89'210 B 68'270 B 0.367 s
nxt.airdns.org nxt.airdns.org 1'528 B 68'510 B -
162.243.124.169 162.243.124.169 78'904 B 27'226 B 1.736 s
127.0.0.1 - 154'329 B 160'706 B 0.001 s
localhost localhost 160'706 B 154'329 B 0.001 s
94.26.187.66 94.26.187.66 16 B 10'008 B -
87.230.14.1 87.230.14.1 195'533 B 78'271 B -0.092 s
fluke.airdns.org fluke.airdns.org 346'636 B 104'753 B -0.057 s

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November 29, 2013, 08:24:09 AM
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thanks come-from-beyond your last solution saved me! =) +1 ill send you some nxt if i get any =)


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November 29, 2013, 08:24:32 AM
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 #752

I'm getting pretty tired of seeing posts saying that the distribution is unfair.

Listen... Anybody could have invested in the beginning.  If you thought Nxt was such a great idea, you should have invested.  Nobody prevented you from investing.  If you still think Nxt is a great idea, then you can still invest in Nxt by purchasing them like everyone else.

If you are upset about your mining rate, then go buy some Nxt.  This is no different than any other currency.  When I wanted more hashpower for scrypt coins, guess what?  I went and bought more GPUs.  If you want more hashpower with Nxt, then go buy some Nxt.  Nobody gave me free GPUs (hashpower) for scrypt, but initial investors here have been giving out free Nxt (hashpower).


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November 29, 2013, 08:27:02 AM
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I have 10 active peers, 16 blacklisted.

For some reason my UI isn't showing me a prediction of how long until the next block is generated.

U have to wait 1440 blocks since the 1st transaction arrived.
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November 29, 2013, 08:32:25 AM
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I decided to clean up and improve the vanity account number generator mentioned before:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3691750#msg3691750

No offence, but why run Java when there is much faster native implementation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg3735874#msg3735874)?
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November 29, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
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I am getting very bored with NXT.  I have not mined a single block.

Perhaps some of the major stake holders will shut off their mining in order to promote their own currency?

Otherwise, it is very boring!

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November 29, 2013, 08:39:22 AM
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I am getting very bored with NXT.  I have not mined a single block.

Perhaps some of the major stake holders will shut off their mining in order to promote their own currency?

Otherwise, it is very boring!

Bitcoin mining is very boring too if you don't own any mining equipment.


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November 29, 2013, 08:40:15 AM
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Yeah I'd also like to add that the huge rich addresses get an incredibly unfair advantage for mining. I understand it's PoS but with these crazy distributions the rich addresses are nearly always going to be the ones mining the blocks and reaping the rewards, this makes it even worse than BTC in a mining sense because with BTC you could at-least buy some decent mining equipment and get something.

However, even with pooled mining, in PoS you're not likely to get much unless your pool has a "rich" address participating, and even then you're really only benefiting THEM instead of the reverse.
Buy expensive mining equipment for btc
Buy a few million Nxt for mining
The guys with 40mill nxt are just like the guys with rooms full of asics mining in a pool and grabbing every block.

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November 29, 2013, 08:44:11 AM
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Yeah I'd also like to add that the huge rich addresses get an incredibly unfair advantage for mining. I understand it's PoS but with these crazy distributions the rich addresses are nearly always going to be the ones mining the blocks and reaping the rewards, this makes it even worse than BTC in a mining sense because with BTC you could at-least buy some decent mining equipment and get something.

However, even with pooled mining, in PoS you're not likely to get much unless your pool has a "rich" address participating, and even then you're really only benefiting THEM instead of the reverse.
Buy expensive mining equipment for btc
Buy a few million Nxt for mining
The guys with 40mill nxt are just like the guys with rooms full of asics mining in a pool and grabbing every block.

Nxt early investors took a calculated risk.  ASIC investors took a calculated risk.  Both will profit off of their calculated risks.  Nobody told you not to take a risk.  Why didn't you?

Go buy some Nxt or stop complaining.  Everyone including the early investors PURCHASED their Nxt.


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November 29, 2013, 09:00:04 AM
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I'm getting pretty tired of seeing post saying that the distribution is unfair.

Listen... Anybody could have invested in the beginning.  If you thought Nxt was such a great idea, you should have invested.  Nobody prevented you from investing.  If you still think Nxt is a great idea, then you can invest in Nxt right now by purchasing them like everyone else.

If you are upset about your mining rate, then go buy some Nxt.  This is no different than any other currency.  When I wanted more hashpower for scrypt coins, guess what?  I went and bought more GPUs.  If you want more hashpower with Nxt, then go buy some Nxt.  Nobody gave me free GPUs (hashpower) for scrypt, but initial investors here have been giving out free Nxt (hashpower).

The problem is not whether the distribution is fair or unfair, but how the coins be redistributed to more people.
In a PoW system, the coins are distributed to the miners in tens or even hundreds of years. In a pure PoS system, however, all coins are distributed at once in the beginning.

Some one argue Satoshi may hold 1M BTC, but even it is true that's only 1/21, and even now there're still 10M BTC there for mining and everyone has their chance. Mining are not cheap due to the hashing cost, but miners pay the mining equipments and electricity suppliers instead of the early adaptors cause these coins do not belong to anyone. These newly mined coins have high cost, so the added supply will not drive down the price too much. Even though most of coins go to the miners, the large number of BTC of early adaptors are still the main threat to the BTC price now.

In a pure PoS system without any new coins created, however, all coins belong to the early adaptors. Mining does not create new coins, and changes only negligible redistribution. All redistribution happen when people buying coins from the early adapters. In the early stage, that means huge supply versus tiny demand and the price could hardly increase. Meanwhile, due to the low price, the majority of coins will stay in the early adaptors who expects higher price. This could hinder the redistribution and may be very dangerous for a new coin. In this sense, it is quite similar to a 100% pre-mined crypto-currency. The dye not because of unfairness, but because of no redistribution.

Therefore, it's not fair or unfair, but how to survive for a pure PoS with all coins given at once in the beginning. There has to be a reason other than speculation/investment for people to buy it. Considering all coins lie in the hands of early adaptors with super low price, there's almost no hope for the price to increase significantly in the beginning, so there has to been something for people to join.

Let's hope the exchange function is implemented as soon as possible, cause that could be the only valid reason for others to join, and then all the coins become the shares of an exchange, and all early adaptors are like the initial investors. Before that, Nxt will not grow like other currencies due to its unique PoS system.

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November 29, 2013, 09:07:20 AM
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Could anybody back me up and send me some coins.. i want to start with mining  Sad


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