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April 09, 2019, 08:49:03 AM |
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Well, that is just understand. Trading or investing is much more difficult than it seems. Even having studied the necessary amount of knowledge, it is still difficult to follow reasonable rules. This is well understood by those who trade their money.
I agree with you completely. When you do not invest your money, you think that it is very easy to make the right decisions, but when you invest your money yourself there are many questions that often have no answers.
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Yarosslav
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April 09, 2019, 06:17:48 PM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
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CryptoFlowers
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April 09, 2019, 07:12:12 PM |
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As I understand it was just the prediction. Nobody wants that the grows was artificial.
That is, you mean the assumption. However, it looks like a statement. It would be nice to know how to determine the manipulation in the market at least with a probability of 0.5. Now many exchanges are trying to fight with manipulation in the market, but even to the exchange which has all the data about transactions is sometimes difficult to identify manipulation. Do not you think that the stock exchange is one of the methods of manipulation? There are a lot of cryptocurrency on the accounts of top exchanges But this is money of trader and not money of cryptocurrecncy exchanges. I do not think that cryptocurrency exchanges will manipulate the rates using money of traders.
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cybitmedia
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April 09, 2019, 07:39:33 PM |
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Well, that is just understand. Trading or investing is much more difficult than it seems. Even having studied the necessary amount of knowledge, it is still difficult to follow reasonable rules. This is well understood by those who trade their money.
I agree with you completely. When you do not invest your money, you think that it is very easy to make the right decisions, but when you invest your money yourself there are many questions that often have no answers. Cryptocurrency because of big volatility of the rates gives a big opportunities for traders. But there are a lot of market manipulations and trader must know the market well.
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April 09, 2019, 07:54:30 PM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money.
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CoffeOfficial
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April 09, 2019, 07:57:16 PM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money. I can understand the bounty hunters. They made a job and want to get payment for it. They can not wait when cryptocurrency will rise.
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Yarosslav
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April 10, 2019, 04:33:27 AM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
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upline
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April 10, 2019, 05:23:49 AM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money. I can understand the bounty hunters. They made a job and want to get payment for it. They can not wait when cryptocurrency will rise. Not all bounty hunters do that. Many held various tokens in the hope of growth, but did not wait.
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darkcerebral
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April 10, 2019, 09:32:51 AM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
Tell us who you are. Nick on the forum will not tell us that. And what work did you do in this project?
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April 10, 2019, 10:06:42 AM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money. I can understand the bounty hunters. They made a job and want to get payment for it. They can not wait when cryptocurrency will rise. Not all bounty hunters do that. Many held various tokens in the hope of growth, but did not wait. For example, I collected tokens from all projects where I participated in the bounty. I thought then selling much more expensive. How I was wrong
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Yarosslav
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April 10, 2019, 02:35:00 PM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
Tell us who you are. Nick on the forum will not tell us that. And what work did you do in this project? Hi all, I am Designer, worked with Optherium from January 2018 till September 2018. The company promised money for work from the fall. Payment will be when we go to the exchange. - they said. But until April, the situation has not changed and the company is not going to do that. I am trapped. And when I began to tell them that this was a tricky step and I needed my money - they blocked me everywhere. My photo on the website, Product Designer. Team section. Already deleted. April 9 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sv07zg7tmr4jcp5/Screenshot%202019-04-09%2021.31.53.png?dl=0April 10 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5lawgu8zneub2/Screenshot%202019-04-10%2017.31.50.png?dl=0Sad story.
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CoffeOfficial
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April 10, 2019, 05:17:50 PM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money. I can understand the bounty hunters. They made a job and want to get payment for it. They can not wait when cryptocurrency will rise. Not all bounty hunters do that. Many held various tokens in the hope of growth, but did not wait. For example, I collected tokens from all projects where I participated in the bounty. I thought then selling much more expensive. How I was wrong Some projects became scum and token holders got nothing. Some of them may be restored if the market conditions will be good. But in all cases token holders lost a lot of money due to the bad market conditions and fall the price of cryptocurrency.
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April 10, 2019, 05:33:45 PM Last edit: April 10, 2019, 06:13:09 PM by OPEXinfo |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
Tell us who you are. Nick on the forum will not tell us that. And what work did you do in this project? Hi all, I am Designer, worked with Optherium from January 2018 till September 2018. The company promised money for work from the fall. Payment will be when we go to the exchange. - they said. But until April, the situation has not changed and the company is not going to do that. I am trapped. And when I began to tell them that this was a tricky step and I needed my money - they blocked me everywhere. My photo on the website, Product Designer. Team section. Already deleted. April 9 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sv07zg7tmr4jcp5/Screenshot%202019-04-09%2021.31.53.png?dl=0April 10 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5lawgu8zneub2/Screenshot%202019-04-10%2017.31.50.png?dl=0Sad story. And to delay of making work - it's not a sad story. Due to the fact that you delayed the making of your work and did not make a work in time, the Optherium team had to hire another designer. Payment to Optherium employees is paid in Fiat money, the bonus part of payment is paid is in the project tokens to interest employees in achieving the best result. All payment terms with the employee are agreed in advance and the employee agrees to the terms before the start of work. I have reported about your complaint to the Optherium team.
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April 10, 2019, 05:51:14 PM |
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Simply people tired to lost money on fall down of the crypto rates. They want that crypto will continue to grow and affraid that grows is temporary and just connected with market manipulations.
The big players want the assets of weak holders. For this, many people should not only get tired of waiting, but they should despair and sell at low prices. Although there is hope that the despair stage has passed. A lot of bounty hunter sell tokens at low price just to get something and they lost a lot of money. I can understand the bounty hunters. They made a job and want to get payment for it. They can not wait when cryptocurrency will rise. Not all bounty hunters do that. Many held various tokens in the hope of growth, but did not wait. That bounty hunters that did not sell their tokens in 2017 lost a lot of money. But in 2017 people hoped for the future grows and many hunders did not sell their tokens.
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Svobodniy2019
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April 10, 2019, 06:24:35 PM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
Tell us who you are. Nick on the forum will not tell us that. And what work did you do in this project? Hi all, I am Designer, worked with Optherium from January 2018 till September 2018. The company promised money for work from the fall. Payment will be when we go to the exchange. - they said. But until April, the situation has not changed and the company is not going to do that. I am trapped. And when I began to tell them that this was a tricky step and I needed my money - they blocked me everywhere. My photo on the website, Product Designer. Team section. Already deleted. April 9 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sv07zg7tmr4jcp5/Screenshot%202019-04-09%2021.31.53.png?dl=0April 10 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5lawgu8zneub2/Screenshot%202019-04-10%2017.31.50.png?dl=0Sad story. With evidence, it is easier for you to solve the problem and if you have completed your work with quality and without complaints from the project, then you will be paid.
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Simonenko1967
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April 10, 2019, 07:19:15 PM |
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Well, that is just understand. Trading or investing is much more difficult than it seems. Even having studied the necessary amount of knowledge, it is still difficult to follow reasonable rules. This is well understood by those who trade their money.
I agree with you completely. When you do not invest your money, you think that it is very easy to make the right decisions, but when you invest your money yourself there are many questions that often have no answers. Cryptocurrency because of big volatility of the rates gives a big opportunities for traders. But there are a lot of market manipulations and trader must know the market well. It is not serious to believe that it is easy to manage your own or other people's money, especially in a situation where you need to quickly make a decision - all the rules are forgotten and the correct answer disappears.
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upline
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April 11, 2019, 06:36:54 AM |
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For example, I collected tokens from all projects where I participated in the bounty. I thought then selling much more expensive. How I was wrong Of course, many tokens have fallen in price greatly. But what can we say, if Bitcoin itself has already fallen many times, and then rose with a new force.
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April 11, 2019, 06:40:36 AM |
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For example, I collected tokens from all projects where I participated in the bounty. I thought then selling much more expensive. How I was wrong Of course, many tokens have fallen in price greatly. But what can we say, if Bitcoin itself has already fallen many times, and then rose with a new force. yes this is a lesson that we can take, not go away when prices are very waiting but continue to provide support so that the OPTHERIUM project can go forward well in accordance with the planning
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Nasbacyar
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April 11, 2019, 11:27:33 AM |
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If they block and ignore you in all possible ways, then they are either dissatisfied with something or are scammers. If you are sure that you are right, then you need to act. Do you have a contract or something? You can provide all the screenshots in the following sections: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0In any case, you can warn the project team that you can publish your evidence of their bad faith. If they value their reputation, they will pay you. In any case, since this information has become known to users and appeared in this topic, it should be responded to.
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Yarosslav
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April 11, 2019, 11:49:40 AM |
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Hi all.
Optherium owe me money and Serge Beck blocked everywhere. I worked with the company and is in all public documents. The company does not want to solve this issue and threatened me.
I have all the evidence of working with them. Good project, but something went wrong. They were supposed to pay me last fall, but they said that the market was in bad condition and I had to wait. Already April and I waited a long time.
Now I decided to tell it publicly.
Tell us who you are. Nick on the forum will not tell us that. And what work did you do in this project? Hi all, I am Designer, worked with Optherium from January 2018 till September 2018. The company promised money for work from the fall. Payment will be when we go to the exchange. - they said. But until April, the situation has not changed and the company is not going to do that. I am trapped. And when I began to tell them that this was a tricky step and I needed my money - they blocked me everywhere. My photo on the website, Product Designer. Team section. Already deleted. April 9 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sv07zg7tmr4jcp5/Screenshot%202019-04-09%2021.31.53.png?dl=0April 10 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu5lawgu8zneub2/Screenshot%202019-04-10%2017.31.50.png?dl=0Sad story. And to delay of making work - it's not a sad story. Due to the fact that you delayed the making of your work and did not make a work in time, the Optherium team had to hire another designer. Payment to Optherium employees is paid in Fiat money, the bonus part of payment is paid is in the project tokens to interest employees in achieving the best result. All payment terms with the employee are agreed in advance and the employee agrees to the terms before the start of work. I have reported about your complaint to the Optherium team. I am delayed with a few tasks from my side, you know why??? You mentioned one situation when I was on vacation with my family without a laptop. And the Optherium team has ASAP tasks all the time so, yeah. This one time I couldn't help with that.
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