What does the bible say about Bitcoin?

[eyjgvfdhbshm]

If the bible says it is ok to own and trade bread, it must be ok to own and trade bitcoins.

[FlappySocks]

The bible says it is ok to trade slaves too.

The book of Revelations will probably be Bitcoins downfall. Fox news will find someone that can prove every private key = 666, and that Satoshi Nakamoto is a socialist. 

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

[Trance]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

ohhhh dat ass!

haha =D dat ass doeeee

[BitcoinBarrel]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

Here's an interesting video about the Drupinar site in Turkey that many believe is the actual remains of Noah's Ark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ

Early geologists understood that fossilization only occurs during floodlike conditions. Fossils are found in Limestone which is used to make concrete. Heated limestone mixed with water makes mortar or basic concrete that dries in hours or days. If a world-wide flood occurred then all of the dirt, clay, sand and debris would settle according to their densities which would give us the "rock layers" that we see today. Gold panning works on this same principal.

Here is a picture of dirt layers separating while submerged in water:

From: http://umaine.edu/tanglewood/4-h-earth-connections/soil-air-water-exercises/

Also, a flood would explain the fossils and petrified trees found in multiple rock layers such as:


I guess my point is, the Bible has hundreds of historical references more than any other Book. What other book do you know talks about the Roman empire, Persians and Greeks, Israel and Egypt, the genealogy of mankind and many ancient cities that are still inhabited today like Damascus Syria, Tyre, Jericho, Gaza, Kush in Africa, Ethiopia, Samaria, Spain and many others.

Just because some things sound miraculous does not mean that it was not possible.

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

Children often have an uncanny knack for seeing the truth (at least until they've been thoroughly brainwashed), don't they?

PS: I knew you were an old man, but an 8 year old grandchild? I'm going to start calling you grandpa!

lol I married young and had children right away. I was only 38 when my first grandchild was born and her mother is trying very hard to pollute the child's mind. I told her to just daydream when she's in Sunday school and save all her energy for paying attention in regular school.  

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

Here's an interesting video about the Drupinar site in Turkey that many believe is the actual remains of Noah's Ark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ

Early geologists understood that fossilization only occurs during floodlike conditions. Fossils are found in Limestone which is used to make concrete. Heated limestone mixed with water makes mortar or basic concrete that dries in hours or days. If a world-wide flood occurred then all of the dirt, clay, sand and debris would settle according to their densities which would give us the "rock layers" that we see today. Gold panning works on this same principal.

Here is a picture of dirt layers separating while submerged in water:

From: http://umaine.edu/tanglewood/4-h-earth-connections/soil-air-water-exercises/

Also, a flood would explain the fossils and petrified trees found in multiple rock layers such as:


I guess my point is, the Bible has hundreds of historical references more than any other Book. What other book do you know talks about the Roman empire, Persians and Greeks, Israel and Egypt, the genealogy of mankind and many ancient cities that are still inhabited today like Damascus Syria, Tyre, Jericho, Gaza, Kush in Africa, Ethiopia, Samaria, Spain and many others.

Just because some things sound miraculous does not mean that it was not possible.

You see that simple hand tool in the picture? That simple tool is more advanced than what they had at the time for construction. Even a child can see that. Every modern work of fiction injects some truth and history to make the story believable. That doesn't make it true that just makes the writer adept at his craft. Star Trek sounds believable because they base the story on just enough science to make the story entertaining. Star Trek also has a huge faithful group of followers but I think I'll pass on making a religion out of the Star Trek series.

[MoonShadow]

The bible says it is ok to trade slaves too.

If you knew as much about the bible as you think you do, you would also know that the term 'slaves' as used in the context of the old testament is a mistranslation into English.  When we think of 'slaves' we think of chattel slavery, but the old testament does specify that, not only did "slaves" have rights (including work rules), but a faithful "slave" earned the hand of the master's eldest daughter after 7 years of service.  This was for the infidels that Jews captured in warfare, they were forbidden from buying servents from either one another or from infidels.  Can you imagine "modern" Islam (that considers Jews to be infidels) offering their eldest daughters to a Jewish man after seven years, even if he openly converted to Islam?

The concept of chattel slavery has no equivalent in the Bible, old or new; and was not permitted for the ancient Israelites, either.  For the most part, our modern concept of slavery (i.e. the ability to "own" another human being) can be traced back to the Persians.

[FlappySocks]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one.  And tragically, wars are fought over "my god is more real than your god".

What a waste.

Long live Bitcoin.

[QuestionAuthority]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one.  And tragically, wars are fought over "my god is more real than your god".

What a waste.

Long live Bitcoin.

Forget about it. Religious fanatics spend their entire life enveloped in research trying to prove to themselves that they aren't nuts for spending their lives believing in nonsense. I'm positive everything MoonShadow said is true because he is one of those researchers but all life you can waste on research won't make fantasy a reality.

[hilariousandco]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

And where did he keep all the viruses and diseases? Or did God create them all later for a laugh? Even most biblical scholars don't believe Noah's ark to be literal, but that's usually what they always say when science or reality proves them otherwise.

[MoonShadow]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one. 

Of course not.  If there were any real evidence of God, or even of a spirtual plane of any kind, your freedom of choice would cease to exist.  You choose to not seek, which is fine.  Your salvation is your problem, not mine.  I have no interest in convincing you otherwise, but to assume that just because wars have been fought with religion as the official cause are the true drivers for the kings and warlords that prosecute such wars is to be woefully ignorant of both history and human nature.  The principle of 'Baptists & bootleggers' has been true for thousands of years, or as long as human civilizations have existed, whichever is longer.

[QuestionAuthority]

You can trust my word because I will live forever. I'm Kartaphilos, Pontius Pilot's gatekeeper. lol

[MGK-]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

+1

I stopped reading at this because there is no chance it could get any better.

[FlappySocks]

You choose to not seek, which is fine.

Wrong.  Your talking to an ex-Christian.  Brainwashed from birth, and suffered for it.  Then did the seeking thing. Only it was all a bunch of phooey.

[MoonShadow]

You choose to not seek, which is fine.

Wrong.  Your talking to an ex-Christian.  Brainwashed from birth, and suffered for it.  Then did the seeking thing. Only it was all a bunch of phooey.

I'm not wrong at all.  You're damaged, therefore you do not seek.  I, myself, am a "reformed" Catholic.  I don't hate the Roman church because of the way I was raised; for that matter, I can't really put the blame on the church doctrine, but only on the particular interpretations of individuals.  And yes, there was a time in my life that I strongly questioned the existance of God, and I did not seek. (or more accurately, simply thought I sought)  Time heals all wounds, but some require more time than others.

I can honestly say that I've never really met an athiest, although I've met many who claim to be an athiest.  Upon inquiry, I've found that all of them were either agnostic (they didn't know if God exists, not that they believed that God could not exist) or they were damaged souls who had (in practice, not necessarily in doctrine) been taught that God is "a vengful God" that demanded loyalty and obedience, regardless of how well his appointed representatives in the lives of any particular child displayed their godlyness.  The obvious reaction to a vengful God is rejection.


Without a doubt, if you require scientific proof that God exists before you can have faith, then you will never find it.  But I know from personal experience that a more personal form of 'proof' will often present itself when sought.  There is nothing that I can tell you that would convience you that I'm more than insane or a great storyteller, but I've seen proof enough.

[MoonShadow]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

The idea that Noah couldn't have hired locals who thought he was insane is, likewise, ridiculous.

And viri and bacteria can live fine under water.  They didn't need to be in the ark any more than the fish did.

[QuestionAuthority]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

The idea that Noah couldn't have hired locals who thought he was insane is, likewise, ridiculous.

And viri and bacteria can live fine under water.  They didn't need to be in the ark any more than the fish did.

Realllllly? lol

What about the freshwater fish. Did he get big fishbowls with aerators from Amazon using Bitcoins to hold them in? Did he build another huge boat to tow behind the main boat to store the mountains of hay and other foods required for all the animals to not starve?

To most scientists, it is common knowledge that the atmosphere and the world could not contain enough water to cover the tops of all the mountains on earth. Water does not evaporate into space, so to speak and all the water that was ever contained by the earth is still here in one form or another.

Noah’s family also lacked a sufficient gene pool to guarantee continuation of our species once the ark landed. Even if we assume that they were successful in surviving against these unprecedented odds, could we have all descended from only eight original members? Genetic markers, such as DNA, are excellent timekeepers to determine the interval back to a common ancestor. Since delving into the subject in sufficient detail would require a book in itself, just understand that it’s possible to observe the deviation of DNA strands by retroactively measuring them to a common strand. This period back to a common ancestor has been determined to be tens of thousands of years, an age remarkably consistent with the ones established for human civilization remains through previously mentioned dating methods. We do not see the five thousand years that our DNA would reveal if all humans descended from the sole survivors of God’s flood.

[VRTROOP]

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[BitChick]

although the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Necessary additions added.

It is because of these very things that Martin Luther got pissed off and formed "Protest" ant Reformation.

And why Catholics and Protestants don't like eachother much to this day.  

Yes.  Of course I think that is changing a bit thankfully.  I would like to see a more unified church of both, as I think Martin Luther really would have preferred but did not have much of a choice, unfortunately.

That said, I posted a while ago on another thread how people should be excited that the Bible foretells the success of Bitcoin, or something similar indirectly.  I think that Bitcoin is NOT evil.  In fact, it is the opposite.  It gives us too much freedom and that is why the governments (or one unified leader a.k.a "Antichrist" at some point) will want to oppress us by trying to force us to take some mark in order to see where all the money is being spent and thus tax us for that.  It seems a logical outcome if Bitcoin does become wildly successful.  Governments will HATE it.  They will lose their power to control and need to do something drastic.  Bitcoin could in fact be a catalyst of what causes this but it is not the problem.  Just my thoughts on it all.