What does the bible say about Bitcoin?

[gabriella]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

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[jojo69]

nobody cares about your bronze age redeemer cult

[Hawker]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

[siameze]

nobody cares about your bronze age redeemer cult

I agree. In fact I have already seen a few of these religious scammers starting to accept it.

[pand70]

Because op isn't a troll and really cares about what the bible says about bitcoin 

[freethink2013]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

ohhhh dat ass!

[erre]

Greed is a sin

[jojo69]

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

[erre]

I think that the bible give a different message in the new and old testament: probably Moses would had hold btc for the best of his people and their descendants, Jesus at contrary would had donated/spend all he owns to spread more btc into the world

[BitDreams]

One requirement of the Biblical Jubilee is a fair and impartial accounting and assessment of value. Bitcoin allows this in transparent manner.

[Nancarrow]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

[Mike Christ]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

nobody cares about your bronze age redeemer cult

No so fast there, jojo.

Matthew 25:31-46

“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, ...

[Phinnaeus Gage]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

I had a vision from above, hence the crosspost. One could say that Satoshi works in mysterious ways.

[Hawker]

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves. 

[beetcoin]

i'm guessing christians would tell you that bitcoins are okay, so long as you return it to the rightful owner: god, via tithing to the church. otherwise you are a satan worshipper.

i wish i could start a business where i could guilt people into giving me their money.. while also being tax-free.

[hilariousandco]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves. 

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

[tvbcof]

i'm guessing christians would tell you that bitcoins are okay, so long as you return it to the rightful owner: god, via tithing to the church. otherwise you are a satan worshipper.

i wish i could start a business where i could guilt people into giving me their money.. while also being tax-free.

I'm waiting for a priest to take BTC as payment for bailing a loved one out of purgatory.

The Bitcoin ecosystem is rife with scammers, but it's hardly blazing any trails.

[zimmah]

Greed is a sin

owning money/bitcoin does not equal greed.

The intentions of owning bitcoin may be based on greed, but not necessarily so.

[BittBurger]

Now Now ... lets respect people's belief systems.

You guys are going to hear a lot more of this in the coming months / years.

There is no doubt Bitcoin is the first evidence of a one world currency.

And that is mentioned in the Bible, specifically.

Before that, they feared it would be the Euro ...

If Bitcoin succeeds, it very well may be the medium of exchange associated with the "mark of the beast" one day.

And that's only awesome news.  Because then Jesus comes back in the sky, and the rapture happens, and then there's a big cage fight with the devil, with beheading of Christians (this part not awesome), and fiery pits, and all that good stuff.

Translation:   Life won't be boring anymore.

[zimmah]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves. 

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

[BittBurger]

although the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Necessary additions added.

It is because of these very things that Martin Luther got pissed off and formed "Protest" ant Reformation.

And why Catholics and Protestants don't like eachother much to this day. 

[TiagoTiago]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Christmas isn't even on the day Jesus was born...

[hilariousandco]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Christmas isn't even on the day Jesus was born...

< Implying Jesus was ever born.  

[NovusOrdoSeclorum]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

http://christianspooksite.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/funny-pope-vatican-gold-evil1.jpg

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Christmas isn't even on the day Jesus was born...

True. You do have to consider, however, that most of the Church's holidays coincided with Gentile rituals, solely to make the transition easier. The prevailing logic was, "if you are already celebrating something on this day, why not celebrate something else, instead?"

[Johnny Bitcoinseed]

And it came to pass that the Lord sayeith to all before him; "Give up all ye bitcoins unto Johnny Bitcoinseed and ye shall live forever in the house of the lord".  And they gave Johnny Bitcoinseed all their bitcoins and were happy ever after.

Amen.

Praise be to Johnny Bitcoinseed and Jesus too.

[TippingPoint]

The bible and Bitcoin both have a genesis block, are semi-anonymous, and are hard to understand.

The central characters in both have disappeared.

[AnonyMint]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

I am not going to claim as fact what is in fact not falsifiable, i.e. an after life, etc..

However, the Bible does in fact predict a digital currency where it mentions we will need the mark 666 tied to our body in order to buy and sell, and that we will throw our gold and silver into the street presumably because we will not be able to use it as money any more in this strict digital tracking system.

The Bible also has numerous scriptures that explain that LOVE of money is the root of all evil. And in fact as I have explained in my November posts this is mathematically and unarguably correct in the sense that monetary gridlock results from hoarding money. You can see my reply to Impaler yesterday if you want to educate yourself on the facts. If you are too lazy, then so be it.

My research is that Bitcoin leads us to the 666 and hands the digital currency to the governments of the NWO. I have covered this in factual analysis of the vulnerabilities in my November posts and in the Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch artcle and thread which I published when first joining this board back in March.

I appear to have confirmed by the majority of posts in this thread that the majority of Bitcoiners are greedy and curse Christianity. It will be interesting to see if my predicted ponzi crash destruction of Bitcoiners outcome comes true.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/11/29/the-share-market/

Perhaps with age you look at what you can leave behind. You cannot take money with you when it is time to leave. I have personally advised some of the richest people in the world. Let me say this. Money does not make you happy. As long as you can do what you want when you want, that is the definition of being “rich”. Go beyond that, you will quickly discover that you become the slave of money and the target for everyone to attack. I am always astonished by people who cannot see that and live to hurt others and grab as much as they can for themselves. This leaves such people nasty, vindictive, hateful, and hollow inside for they lack character. They know nothing of the feeling of accomplishment because they lack the ability to accomplish anything but cheat people for pleasure.

Wise man.

[bitcoinpsftp]

Hahaha, I am sorry, I don't usually hate on threads, but this has to be one of the pointless threads I've ever seen.  What was going through your mind OP when you started it.  Were you just bored?  Was it divine inspiration?  Did a banker convince you that bicoins are, in the literal sense, the devil?

[mrdavis]

And it came to pass that the Lord sayeith to all before him; "Give up all ye bitcoins unto Johnny Bitcoinseed and ye shall live forever in the house of the lord".  And they gave Johnny Bitcoinseed all their bitcoins and were happy ever after.

Amen.

Praise be to Johnny Bitcoinseed and Jesus too.

More recent discoveries of more reliable manuscripts suggest that "mrdavis" would be a better translation from the original Aramaic than "Johnny Bitcoinseed".

[AnonyMint]

Hahaha, I love it.  

Don't you know it is wiser to send it all to AnonyMintous to support widespread anarchy.

[Anon136]

why would the bible say anything about bitcoin? it was written by frightened confused superstitious primitive bronze age nomads as a way to explain what was at the time unexplainable due to the fact that they had not yet invented science. its like asking, i wonder what cave men thought about space travel... probably something but they would hardly be authoritative...

[redwraith]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Are you fucking serious?

[beetcoin]

religious nuts would easily find some way to incorporate the bible to fit some sort of narrative about what they believe or what. they do it with every other things, so why not? funny thing with the bible is that it's full of metaphors.. yet people always use it as "absolute evidence that this or that is true."

[justusranvier]

If you ever pick up a copy of the Bible, please remember that it's a collection of parables not to be interpreted literally fiction.

[redwraith]

It says, "Thou shalt not coin bits."

That is a stretch...   just as I would suspect from those that take religion seriously.

[AnonyMint]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Are you fucking serious?

It says, "Thou shalt not coin bits."

I think the Proverb said something about thou shall not use rulers made from rubber bands.

Ponzi systems seem to fit that wisdom quite well.

The notion that men who lived in modern cities of the Roman empire with paved roads and bridges somehow had a lower IQ than we do now is inane.

Everything is fiction.

Whether it is fiction to you is all relative. And that is a scientific fact. See the link above.

Edit: I am aware of theory that the Bible mimicks all the features of primordial sun god, etc.

Edit#2: I recognize religion is often (perhaps always) manipulating minds and groupthink. So is most everything. Why should it be perfect when nothing else is either.

We all know the evil acts of religion such as the Inquisition, burning-at-the-stake in New America, and recently in Syrian cutting off the limbs of a young Christian girl while she was still alive, etc..

Were the Nazis, the Chinese Cultural Revolution, Cambodia's Pol pot religions?

Seems like something more than religion going on here.

[The 4ner]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

LOL!

[AnonyMint]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Are you fucking serious?

It says, "Thou shalt not coin bits."

I think the Proverb said something about thou shall not use rulers made from rubber bands.

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ObummerCare Clinician, "My ruler shows unequivocally that your penis measures 0.78 inches, see look".

Worried Patient, "(pulling hard to stretch his penis)... but look it is 1.12 inches".

ObummerCare Clinician, "The guidelines do not allow you to stretch your genital sir".

Frightened Patient, "But, but, but...your crazy".

ObummerCare Clinician, "After your sex change operation, you will undergo psychiatric evaluation".

[Elwar]

The bible says not to use government currency.

Mark 12:16
"Why are you testing Me? Bring Me a denarius to look at." They brought one. And He said to them, "Whose likeness and inscription is this?" And they said to Him, "Caesar's." And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."


Modern day:
"Why are you testing Me? Bring Me a dollar to look at." They brought one. And He said to them, "Whose name is this?" And they said to Him, "Federal Reserve's." And Jesus said to them, "Render to the Federal Reserve the things that are the Federal Reserve's, and to God the things that are God's."

[kik1977]

Ask those guys:

http://www.coindesk.com/saint-johns-becomes-worlds-first-catholic-church-accept-bitcoin-donations/

[fluidjax]

Satoshi appears as a bible code in genesis , 3 times.... thats proof enough for me
http://www.divinecoders.com/index.php?keyword=satoshi&book=1

[LightRider]

It is very similar to hawala.

[Dr Bloggood]

Don't worry, the Bible endorses bitcoin for repentance purposes: I believe taking the name of the Lord your God in vain costs you 4.5 bitcoins, while fucking a donkey is 0.8 bitcoins.

Epic thread! I would love to know if OP is actually serious.

[tvbcof]

Don't worry, the Bible endorses bitcoin for repentance purposes: I believe taking the name of the Lord your God in vain costs you 4.5 bitcoins, while fucking a donkey is 0.8 bitcoins.

Epic thread! I would love to know if OP is actually serious.

I'd be surprised that fucking a donkey would even be a sin after reading the Old Testament.

I got R. Crumb's book as a gift a while ago which is the main reason I know a little bit of the content.

[hilariousandco]

Satoshi appears as a bible code in genesis , 3 times.... thats proof enough for me
http://www.divinecoders.com/index.php?keyword=satoshi&book=1

I've read that Bible Code book and it seems to "predict" anything the author wants it to.



This is one piece of literature where I recommend it's ok to judge a book by its cover.

[LightRider]

Satoshi appears as a bible code in genesis , 3 times.... thats proof enough for me
http://www.divinecoders.com/index.php?keyword=satoshi&book=1

I've read that Bible Code book and it seems to "predict" anything the author wants it to.



This is one piece of literature where I recommend it's ok to judge a book by its cover.

But did you read the sequel?

[hilariousandco]

Satoshi appears as a bible code in genesis , 3 times.... thats proof enough for me
http://www.divinecoders.com/index.php?keyword=satoshi&book=1

I've read that Bible Code book and it seems to "predict" anything the author wants it to.



This is one piece of literature where I recommend it's ok to judge a book by its cover.

But did you read the sequel?

Nope. Should I?

[medUSA]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

No, but it is less likely you would go to heaven if you own more of it 

[LightRider]

Satoshi appears as a bible code in genesis , 3 times.... thats proof enough for me
http://www.divinecoders.com/index.php?keyword=satoshi&book=1

I've read that Bible Code book and it seems to "predict" anything the author wants it to.



This is one piece of literature where I recommend it's ok to judge a book by its cover.

But did you read the sequel?

Nope. Should I?

It claims that they found references to 9/11. I didn't find it very compelling myself, but they do talk alot about codes, decryption, computing and other kinds of modernish stuff.

[jameela]

The bible says not to use government currency.

Mark 12:16
"Why are you testing Me? Bring Me a denarius to look at." They brought one. And He said to them, "Whose likeness and inscription is this?" And they said to Him, "Caesar's." And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."


Modern day:
"Why are you testing Me? Bring Me a dollar to look at." They brought one. And He said to them, "Whose name is this?" And they said to Him, "Federal Reserve's." And Jesus said to them, "Render to the Federal Reserve the things that are the Federal Reserve's, and to God the things that are God's."

Genesis Block

And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth.

Genesis 47:15

The old money in Egypt had failed. There was now a new money: grain. It had the characteristic features of money. It was divisible, portable, easily recognized, and had high market value in relation to volume and weight. In normal times, grain lacks this fourth feature. But in a famine, it temporarily gains it. This is why, during famines, grain is money. This is why those who possess it wind up wealthy, assuming they are not killed.

"You can't eat gold." I used to hear that one from people who ridiculed the gold standard. But this is not a good argument against gold. It is an argument in favor of food. Not only can't you eat gold, you can't paper money and plastic credit cards, either. When food is short, money is no longer valuable in comparison to food. Money cannot sustain life. Food can. The forecasts of the Egyptians had been incorrect. They had kept their money rather than buying up food the previous season to store it. Joseph’s forecast had been correct. This put him in charge of Egypt’s future.

But what if the Egyptians had heard about Joseph’s dream and interpretation? What if all of them had believed the story? Their money would have failed the previous year. Had they all gone out to buy up the crop, they would have found that their competitive bids raised the price of grain. This price increase would not have been so radical as it was the following year, when there was a drastic reduction of the grain supply, but it would have been sufficient to turn grain into money.

http://reformed-theology.org/ice/newslet/bet/bet97.08.htm


Who own the BTC ?

Q. Can I convert one currency in my wallet (e.g. EUR) into another currency (e.g. USD) in another wallet?

A. No, it is not possible to convert EUR to USD directly from one wallet to another as Mt.Gox is not a currency exchange

Q. What is the exchange rate used?

A. The European Central Bank's daily exchange rate is used.

https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20800336-Multi-Currency-Trading

Blame The Banker not Bitcoin.

[Dr Bloggood]

Don't worry, the Bible endorses bitcoin for repentance purposes: I believe taking the name of the Lord your God in vain costs you 4.5 bitcoins, while fucking a donkey is 0.8 bitcoins.

Epic thread! I would love to know if OP is actually serious.

I'd be surprised that fucking a donkey would even be a sin after reading the Old Testament.

I got R. Crumb's book as a gift a while ago which is the main reason I know a little bit of the content.

You might get a discount on the donkey thing, if you do it several times and you are really into it.

R. Crumb's book? I have read Richard Dawkins and his Flying Spaghetti Monster, but I don't know about Crumb's book.

EDIT: Ok, Genesis, I got it.

[pand70]

I 'm surprised that this thread isn't already 100 pages long. I mean there isn't a most certain way for an endless thread than mentioning god or bible or christ in the title.

[VforVictory]

You know this thread is actually funny when people actually get in to it, like that Kindle and Genesis block joke... It gets *less* funny when everyone raises pitchforks because they can't stand hearing anything about religion. -_-

[phazon307]

I am going to give you a non ignorant non ridiculing answer to your question sense you asked in sincerity and people mocked what you asked.

The bible does teach that the root of all evil is money. That says people will commit horrible acts to get money.
Greed is also against the bible. If a person is spending every day worrying about getting more bitcoins then yes that is greed. As it stands if you are just doing this for fun or you want to get a little bit of profit you still have to know how to set up rigs run scripts so it takes a matter of skill so it isn't your not really gambling your not taking other peoples money as a loss to them. They are willfully giving you money in exchange for their bitcoins. Just like a stock market or gold or silver people see it to you when you buy so they can make a profit and you can perhaps hold on to it tell you can make a profit of what you sold. What does your conscience tell you if your conscience tell you it's bad then you shouldn't do it cause that is your best guide regardless of what I say or anyone else says. Bottom line is this if your going to devout your time to bitcoin instead of God then bitcoin would be against what the bible says but this is also with anything else that one does in life. You have to remember something even Jesus had to use currency to buy things BTC is a currency maybe not as structural as say the dollar but it is still a currency anything can be bad if it is used for a bad purpose. A lot of bad people give BTC a bad name but it doesn't have to be that way. I look at it like this I am spending money to make money  as an investment but I am not going to let it dominate my whole life. Who knows it could even replace government regulated currency someday so you will end up using it anyways to live.

[vpitcher07]

Separation of church and everything else in life. If you want to follow some millionaire king ie, the pope, then go for it. Remember when kings thought they were put in charge by god? All churches are corrupt. If you want to believe in God by yourself then all the power to you but don't force your stupid ideas upon the rest of us. Sorry for bumping this obvious troll thread /rant

[Mondy]

nobody cares about your bronze age redeemer cult

+1 lets leave god out of bitcoin.

[phazon307]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves. 

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[MoonShadow]

And why Catholics and Protestants don't like eachother much to this day. 

I was raised Catholic, my wife was Protestant.  We get along fine.

[MoonShadow]

I am going to give you a non ignorant non ridiculing answer to your question sense you asked in sincerity and people mocked what you asked.

The bible does teach that the root of all evil is money.

That's actually a very common misquotation of the verse in 1 Timothy 6:10, which started with a poor translation under King James...

"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."  -King James

But a much more accurate translation is this....

"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows."  -New Living Translation

The latter is a better translation into more modern English.  There are many independent translations that come up with pretty much the same take on things. http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/6-10.htm

To put it another way, to love money is the source of a great many evils that men commit against one another, but it's not quite the only cause.  However, the very nature of money does not make it evil, nor is the possession of money alone a sin.

[BitchicksHusband]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

How's this?

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

Keeping people from buying and selling was nearly impossible in Bible days, but we see it now with Visa, Mastercard and PayPal blocking whoever they don't like.

[MoonShadow]

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Keeping people from buying and selling was nearly impossible in Bible days, but we see it now with Visa, Mastercard and PayPal blocking whoever they don't like.

I've got to say, you're stretching the limits of imagination trying to squeeze that conclusion out of that verse.

[polarhei]

United? Or for reducing environmental impacts?

[liexel]

solomon would probably own some bitcoins

[Martijnvdc]

This thread made me realise...
What if the common American discovers bitcoin (i.e. god fearing hypocrites)
Wouldn't they be strongly against it? As it's "un-American"... Fox news will tell them bitcoin is communist or something.

[erre]

This thread made me realise...
What if the common American discovers bitcoin (i.e. god fearing hypocrites)
Wouldn't they be strongly against it? As it's "un-American"... Fox news will tell them bitcoin is communist or something.

I think that the situation will eventually require some whale to donate some btc to church/media/politicians to let them discover the happiness of watching them growth. It should work great 

[altoz]

This thread made me realise...
What if the common American discovers bitcoin (i.e. god fearing hypocrites)
Wouldn't they be strongly against it? As it's "un-American"... Fox news will tell them bitcoin is communist or something.

Because, of course, the "common American" just listens to what Fox news says. 

Please stop with the elitism, there are lots of "common Americans" here already.

[Sheldor333]

If you have any problem with it donate it. Simple as that. Give it away to someone who needs it. There is surely no sin in that. Other that that there is nothing in the bible about that just like there is nothing about computers.

[MoonShadow]

This thread made me realise...
What if the common American discovers bitcoin (i.e. god fearing hypocrites)
Wouldn't they be strongly against it? As it's "un-American"... Fox news will tell them bitcoin is communist or something.

I think that the situation will eventually require some whale to donate some btc to church/media/politicians to let them discover the happiness of watching them growth. It should work great 

There are already a couple of churches and missions that accept bitcoin donations.  Google is your friend.

[VforVictory]

If you have any problem with it donate it. Simple as that. Give it away to someone who needs it. There is surely no sin in that. Other that that there is nothing in the bible about that just like there is nothing about computers.

I don't know... Sometimes, when fire rains from the sky, I feel like God overclocked his computer too much. <_<

[vpitcher07]

jesus would totally mine bitcoin and he'd definitely claim that BFL is the devil.

[pand70]

This thread made me realise...
What if the common American discovers bitcoin (i.e. god fearing hypocrites)
Wouldn't they be strongly against it? As it's "un-American"... Fox news will tell them bitcoin is communist or something.

Because, of course, the "common American" just listens to what Fox news says.  

Please stop with the elitism, there are lots of "common Americans" here already.

How bitcoin, fox news and god can be placed in the same context is beyond me...

[BitcoinFX]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

Bitkwein 

Bitcoin in the Holy Bible - The Book of Daniel - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167960

I'm an agnostic - "We know its a true story because we made it up ourselves ?"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206630.0   

Does anyone here believe in Keyser Söze ?

[FlappySocks]

This always cracks me up when it comes to the bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[AnonyMint]

This always cracks me up when it comes to the bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If a tree fell in the forest, no one heard or saw it, and it decomposed and disappeared, did it exist?

If God only saw it, did it exist?

According to the Bible, those who are unable to comprehend what I just wrote are supposed to be ignorant of the fact that the universe is composed of infinitely many incomplete, thus inconsistent perceptions.

You were supposed to learn something from the inconsistencies and solve the puzzle.

[FlappySocks]

According to the Bible, those who are unable to comprehend what I just wrote are supposed to be ignorant of the fact that the universe is composed of infinitely many incomplete, thus inconsistent perceptions.

Infinite perceptions? Cant be proved.

The only thing anyone can say for sure, is that there is only one. Yours.

[btchaver]

Bible says 666  the devil and the mark of the beast!  new world order.  last book the book of revelations.  i always read the first page when i was a kid and the last page and truly there is a beggining and an ending.  then end is not good the begining is beatiful and awesome.  so thats how it goes and most things written in the bible are 100% true but if you use them to decipher bad things then you might not be so succesful because the bible is a good thing and bitcoin is not exactly gods creation lets be real your mixing god with bitcoin.

[FlappySocks]

the bible is a good thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o

 

[AnonyMint]

According to the Bible, those who are unable to comprehend what I just wrote are supposed to be ignorant of the fact that the universe is composed of infinitely many incomplete, thus inconsistent perceptions.

Infinite perceptions number of perceptions? Cant be proved.

The only thing anyone can say for sure, is that there is only one. Yours.

Already proved. What is proved is that global consistency doesn't exist without infinite samples, so either it doesn't exist or infinite samples must exist. In either case, it supports my prior rebuttal.

[C10H15N]

2 Kings 18:27

But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

[FlappySocks]

2 Kings 18:27

But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Hee Hee. "Cooking with Yahweh" Ezekiel 4:1-15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CFbwqyZQF0&list=PL7420408E36541DA4&index=36

[Sammey]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

http://christianspooksite.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/funny-pope-vatican-gold-evil1.jpg

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

This.

If money is the root of all evil... why do churches accept it.  

[AnonyMint]

the bible is a good thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o

 

Only a fool would believe the logic from God in 1 Samuel 8 which states that binding yourselves together in collectivism, means that when when all the people were ordered killed in 1 Samuel 15 after they bound themselves in collectivism, that it meant it was God who wanted that outcome.

It is in fact what happens when people bind themselves together in collectivism. Read the thread below to bring yourself up to speed on reality:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.0

[AnonyMint]

This.

If money is the root of all evil... why do churches accept it.  

Because churches are evil. Jesus said so in Matthew 6:5. He advises praying in your closet instead.

[hilariousandco]

most things written in the bible are 100% true

wat?

This.

If money is the root of all evil... why do churches accept it.  

Because churches are evil. Jesus said so in Matthew 6:5. He advises praying in your closet instead.

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

[FlappySocks]

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

That's probably why the church tried to stop the bible from being translated. Bible possession was once banned by the Catholic church. It was deemed only suitable for priests, and not the common man, who might start asking awkward questions about all the horrors there are within. Death, rape, slavery etc, all blessed by Yahweh.

[pandacoin]

Nothing.

[AnonyMint]

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

That's probably why the church tried to stop the bible from being translated. Bible possession was once banned by the Catholic church. It was deemed only suitable for priests, and not the common man, who might start asking awkward questions about all the horrors there are within. Death, rape, slavery etc, all blessed by Yahweh.

I see Logic 101 is not within your capability.

I already explained to you upthread, that the story is God warned about what leads to those outcomes. And then carried them out, because the warnings are unavoidable.

If you bind yourself together in collective governments, you will always end up with megadeath outcomes.

This is the human condition. If you deny it as reality, you are the one who is deluded.

Jesus tried to preach that the only way to escape that reality is sell everything and walk with him with no possessions. Indeed LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Guaranteed.

P.S. I am not professing them not to be stories. I am attack the poor logic used to criticize the logic of the parables.

[hilariousandco]

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

That's probably why the church tried to stop the bible from being translated. Bible possession was once banned by the Catholic church. It was deemed only suitable for priests, and not the common man, who might start asking awkward questions about all the horrors there are within. Death, rape, slavery etc, all blessed by Yahweh.

As if people wouldn't become sceptical when god appears to no one, says nothing and does nothing any way. Jeeze, how long did they think they could keep it up for? What, people still believe in this shit? . Seriously. The god of the Bible, Torah and Quran is absolute abhorrent cunt, and any body with any intelligence wouldn't want anything to do with him out of sheer principle alone. These fools don't love him, they fear him. But that's irrelevant any way; If there was a god, all religions would be an absolute insult to his/hers/its intelligence. Religons lol.

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

That's probably why the church tried to stop the bible from being translated. Bible possession was once banned by the Catholic church. It was deemed only suitable for priests, and not the common man, who might start asking awkward questions about all the horrors there are within. Death, rape, slavery etc, all blessed by Yahweh.

I see Logic 101 is not within your capability.

I already explained to you upthread, that God warned about what leads to those outcomes. And then carried them out, because the warnings are unavoidable.

If you bind yourself together in collective governments, you will always end up with megadeath outcomes.

This is the human condition. If you deny it as reality, you are the one who is deluded.

Jesus tried to preach that the only way to escape that reality is sell everything and walk with him with no possessions. Indeed money is the root of all evil. Guaranteed.

Money isn't the root of all evil; people are.

[ajax3592]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

This.

If money is the root of all evil... why do churches accept it.  

Religion is a massive business. It's been running from centuries and hundreds of generations are being brainwashed one after another.

[stormlighter]

Jesus <3 BTC

[hilariousandco]

It says nothing about Bitcoins, but it slags off Litecoin pretty hard.

Greed is a sin

so is usury, and the entire fiat system is founded on that

That is odd isn't it?  Usury was for centuries a great evil; suddenly it was a-ok and the churches started lending money themselves.  

The Church/Vatican are a business. A great one at that.

This.

If money is the root of all evil... why do churches accept it.  

Religion is a massive business. It's been running from centuries and hundreds of generations are being brainwashed one after another.

We got scared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ela3ChTzFcA

The Vatican is only its own country for tax purposes. The Vatican bankers are very smart. Well, apart from getting caught laundering millions in money. I often wonder if the cardinals and popes actually believe in the shit they spew, or are they genuine and just being used by the Vatican bankers? I guess it's a mixture of both. There's never a short supply of morons on this planet and people willing to exploit them for their own financial gain.

[Liquid]

There's never a short supply of morons on this planet and people willing to exploit them for their own financial gain.

+1

[VforVictory]

I find the lack of faith in this thread disturbing....

[hilariousandco]

I find the lack of faith in this thread disturbing....

I have faith in Bitcoin. What do you have faith in?

[bitcoiner49er]

The bible and Bitcoin both have a genesis block, are semi-anonymous, and are hard to understand.

The central characters in both have disappeared.

You have earned my respect in one post. Well done!

[virtualmaster]

Re: What does the bible say about Bitcoin?

The first book of the CryptoBible is the CryptoGenesis and don't mention about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=340892.0

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

I will post the second book of the CryptoBible for you and there will be the ten commandments from Satoshi.

[AnonyMint]

This is the great irony. If they had even bothered to read the "teachings" of Christ, then they'd see Jesus preached against Chruches and public praying. Morons.

Jesus tried to preach that the only way to escape that reality is sell everything and walk with him with no possessions. Indeed money is the root of all evil. Guaranteed.

Money isn't the root of all evil; people are.

I meant to write the LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

And so agreed that is a quality of the people.

Money itself doesn't have to be evil. It is the putting of money first as a LOVE that is evil.

[hilariousandco]

Money is a good metaphor for good and evil just like Jesus and Satan are. You can do good with money or you can do evil. Same with being human; we can create or we can destroy; we can do good or we can do bad.

[takagari]

So your all saying we need to create a BTC cult and our own bible!

[QuestionAuthority]

I find the lack of faith in this thread disturbing....

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

[FlappySocks]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

[justusranvier]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

WTF does evidence have to do with fairy tales?

[MoonShadow]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

[MoonShadow]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

WTF does evidence have to do with fairy tales?

What do you believe in?

[QuestionAuthority]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

You analytical fuckers are picking apart a joke. *facepalm*

[takagari]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

You analytical fuckers are picking apart a joke. *facepalm*

This surprises you?

[FlappySocks]

There is no evidence it was winter.  

WTF does evidence have to do with fairy tales?

I was joking.  No evidence for winter is somewhat insignificance considering there is no evidence for Jesus walking on water.  

[gabriella]

[MoonShadow]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

You analytical fuckers are picking apart a joke. *facepalm*

It's as amusing to myself to dissect your jokes as it is for you to ridicule my belief system.

[dank]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

Funny, god told Steve Jobs about iPhones when he was tripping acid.

[C10H15N]

Steve Jobs thought he was god. 

[MoonShadow]

Steve Jobs thought he was god. 

If that were true, why did he spend so much money and time trying to cure his cancer; rather than willing it out of existance?

[justusranvier]

It's as amusing to myself to dissect your jokes as it is for you to ridicule my belief system.

Ridicule is the price one pays for irrational approaches to truth.

Nobody has ever complained about someone else ridiculing their belief in the height of Mt Everest. Since Mt Everest is a real thing that actually exists, we can just go measure it. No faith required there - that's only required when you're talking about imaginary things.

[MoonShadow]

It's as amusing to myself to dissect your jokes as it is for you to ridicule my belief system.

Ridicule is the price one pays for irrational approaches to truth.

Nobody has ever complained about someone else ridiculing their belief in the height of Mt Everest. Since Mt Everest is a real thing that actually exists, we can just go measure it. No faith required there - that's only required when you're talking about imaginary things.

You have a faith based worldview as well, you just don't think you do.  While I would agree that Mt Everest is a real mountain that can be measured, can you personally perform that act, or do you need to trust the claim of someone else?  What first hand evidence do you possess that the proto-planet Pluto exists?  That Nelson Mandela (who died today) was more than a fictional character, or that James Bond was not?  That Americans have ever visited the Moon?

The truth is, you don't.  You could have the ability to prove to yourself that some of these things are truth, but no single person could prove that all of them are truth.  You live as a lifeform for which a faith-based worldview is a physical and psycological requirement for any kind of sane or rational interaction with the rest of humanity.  You must put your faith in someone.  In whom, or what, you choose to believe in says as much about you as what, or whom, you choose to deny.

[TippingPoint]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

[VforVictory]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

Nuclear Winter

Jesus stars in Fallout 4.

[MoonShadow]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

Believe what you wish.

[TippingPoint]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

Believe what you wish.

I was not trying to be antagonistic.

[MoonShadow]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

Believe what you wish.

I was not trying to be antagonistic.

Neither was I, but your (apparent) belief that reproducible laws of nature are immutible and/or that our understanding of said laws of nature are sufficiently complete simply supports my point.  You have faith that your worldview is correct.  You have to, for if you did not, the cognative dissonance you would regularly encounter will either require you to alter your worldview till the stress of such cognative dissonance is below your cronic threshhold; or simply drive you to madness.

[AnonyMint]

Believing a report from a credible source, on a fact that does not violate reproducible laws of nature is not the same as believing a report from an anonymous source, that does violate reproducible laws of nature.

Laws that are aliasing error based on an inability to sample below Planck's constant. That can't explain what matter is, nor what the edge of the universe isn't.

What is outside the universe know-it-all?

[MoonShadow]

Nuclear Winter

Jesus stars in Fallout 4.

Fallout 4: The Second Coming...

"I come not with peace, but with the sword..."

[QuestionAuthority]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter. 

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

You analytical fuckers are picking apart a joke. *facepalm*

It's as amusing to myself to dissect your jokes as it is for you to ridicule my belief system.

I just saw this and first let me say sorry for the Jesus joke. I had no idea you were one of those or I would have enjoyed the joke much more than I did.

I have to ask you a question since I now know your bias. How do you rationalize supporting what could be considered the one world financial system that will come about at the end of days?

"He (the false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast (antichrist), so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand (private key?) or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number.

[hilariousandco]

Bibles are in the Myths & Folklore section of my local libraries , but one time I saw one had been (incorrectly) put in the autobiography section  .

[MoonShadow]

I have to ask you a question since I now know your bias. How do you rationalize supporting what could be considered the one world financial system that will come about at the end of days?

"He (the false prophet) was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast (antichrist), so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand (private key?) or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number.

The mark is an involuntary system.  Bitcoin is, by it's nature, entirely voluntary and without coercion.  Bitcoin isn't the mark.

That's assuming that I beleive that Revelations should be taken literally.  I do not.  I'm a gnostic christian, not a literalist.  Revelations is better understood if it's read as an allegory for personal death in the context of the early church experiencing a very real persecution from government, written in a kind of jargon 'code' that wouldn't imply to those same government agents that the author was actually discussing current or near term events.  The 'mark' or 'number of the beast' (666) happens to match the written character consents of the full name of the Roman emperor of the time, and that was a trick of identification that would have been somewhat familiar to Christian Jews at the time.  In short, I don't agree that Revelations was actually prophetic, but was a mass communications tool that was deliberately disguised to appear prophetic.  I would consider the (Expanded) Book of Daniel and the Book of Enoch to be the most prophetic of the books of the Bible, and I don't consider the Bible to be complete without the Apocrypha taken into consideration, dispite their dubious authorship and difficult read.  Nor do I consider all the books of the canon to be of equal value, as I think that each should be considered individually.  This is what makes me 'gnostic' (in search of the knowledge), and means that I don't believe in the Doctrine of Divine Preservation.  To me, each book, it's authorship, history and translatoins stand alone.

[QuestionAuthority]

Well that is fascinating. You are attempting to create your own version of Christianity through study. I suppose that's the way all offshoots of it started. Last I read there were over 40,000 different sects of Christianity in the world. With each person interpreting it the way they see fit then I can understand why. I don't dismiss religion without at least attempting to understand it. That's a foolhardy exercise performed by young people because religion gets in the way of getting laid while high on something illegal which seems to be the preferred lifestyle choice today. Basic theology should be a requirement in primary education worldwide. If your going to dismiss anything you should at least understand it first.

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

Christianity uses the fear of overpowering reprisal to curb behavior. When I was young I listened to older Christians talk about the United Nations as being the beast with seven heads and ten horns. They actually believed that a 2k year old ragtag collection of parables could predict the end of the world today. That's as foolish as believing in Nostradamus. In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

[MoonShadow]

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

I didn't say that I don't take any part of it literally. 

In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

Since that is an impossibility without coercion, the rest is irrelevent.  Bitcoin cannot be the mark; and as I already mentioned, I don't even condsider "the mark" to be an actual prophesy, so the interpretation regarding control of commerce (which was very relevent to the Roman Empire during the first century A.D.) is not relevent to Bitcoin, the United Nations, or the United States Federal Reserve.  It's Daniel that predicts the (repeated) rise of Israel as a nation with actual borders, and Enoch perhaps as well (in the prophesy of the ages of humanity).  I don't consider actual prophesy to be at all common, and it should be suspect (even th ebible itself says this) but I don't consider prophesy to be impossible either.  Of course, those same prophesies (both in Daniel and Enoch) arent' very useful except in hindsight, as the only thing that they are really good for is establishing the (divine?) creditials of the author to a distant generation.

[pand70]

What is the main religion in china? Budism? I think we should check what budism says about bitcoin because things don't look over there lately 

[QuestionAuthority]

I do agree with you that even Christians shouldn't take the bible literally. If you want to use it as a group of parables to help you make sound moral decisions that is less damaging than what people actually use it for in most circumstances. Religions that are used to pass judgment on the lifestyle of others are as dangerous to me as a dictator poised for war. Just as many lives have been destroyed or ended with religion.

I didn't say that I don't take any part of it literally. 

In order to have Bitcoin fit into the role of the one world financial system it does not have to currently be an involuntary system. All it needs to be is a system that unifies the world under one monetary system. It can be perverted into an involuntary system once it's in place and the beast rises to power. Or perhaps it can be the training exercise necessary to teach the world how to use a one world financial system and be replaced with something similar in the near future.  

Since that is an impossibility without coercion, the rest is irrelevent.  Bitcoin cannot be the mark; and as I already mentioned, I don't even condsider "the mark" to be an actual prophesy, so the interpretation regarding control of commerce (which was very relevent to the Roman Empire during the first century A.D.) is not relevent to Bitcoin, the United Nations, or the United States Federal Reserve.  It's Daniel that predicts the (repeated) rise of Israel as a nation with actual borders, and Enoch perhaps as well (in the prophesy of the ages of humanity).  I don't consider actual prophesy to be at all common, and it should be suspect (even th ebible itself says this) but I don't consider prophesy to be impossible either.  Of course, those same prophesies (both in Daniel and Enoch) arent' very useful except in hindsight, as the only thing that they are really good for is establishing the (divine?) creditials of the author to a distant generation.

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin. Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire. I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

[MarKusRomanus]

Yes The Bible does say Bitcon is a sin.. you just have to read it the right way.  For anyone who wishes to find redemption and wash away their bitcoin sin, I am willing to take the bullet and go to hell for you.  Simply dump that devil spawn bitcoin you own into the wallet in my signature.

[MoonShadow]

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin.

Peer pressure, whatever you call it, is not coercion.  Coercion is the use of force, as in enforcement of monetary laws.  The general opinion of a (largely) anonymous forum, whether or not you agree with that "groupthink" (it's called Bitcointalk, after all.  There's obviously a bias.), is not force.  All they can do is ignore your commentary.  Which happens to be what most of us do to you, Question.

 Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire.

That's the great innovation of bitcoin, as mass adoption of bitcoin would make government control of commerce much more difficult than it already is.  That is no small thing.

 I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

Oh, I know that.  A great many of those same people consider me a heretic as well.

[QuestionAuthority]

No, Bitcoin doesn't have to be the mark in it's current form. The successor to Bitcoin could be. Come on Moonshadow, you know coercion will be a part of it just as coercion through groupthink is used on this forum to steer non believers into the gospel/doctrine of Bitcoin.

Peer pressure, whatever you call it, is not coercion.  Coercion is the use of force, as in enforcement of monetary laws.  The general opinion of a (largely) anonymous forum, whether or not you agree with that "groupthink" (it's called Bitcointalk, after all.  There's obviously a bias.), is not force.  All they can do is ignore your commentary.  Which happens to be what most of us do to you, Question.

 Control of commerce has been relevant to every government since the dawn of man it's not specific to the ancient Roman Empire.

That's the great innovation of bitcoin, as mass adoption of bitcoin would make government control of commerce much more difficult than it already is.  That is no small thing.

 I don't believe any of this bullshit either but I bet there are tens of thousands of Christians that I could convince. You are a unique believer in that you are not swayed by every wind of doctrine and don't take the sermon from the pulpit literally. Many do.

Oh, I know that.  A great many of those same people consider me a heretic as well.

Force is a state of mind. It comes in many forms. Patriotism seems to be the strongest and will actually make young people commit suicide for their government. You're still missing my point. Bitcoin could be the precursor to the final iteration that will be sanctioned by government. The way the masses here scream for the government to step in after every new scam they are obviously in favor of more government control. If that weren't true they would just shut up and take their beating. Yes, I can see you being considered a heretic by the mainstream Christians.

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

[VforVictory]

Yes The Bible does say Bitcon is a sin.. you just have to read it the right way.  For anyone who wishes to find redemption and wash away their bitcoin sin, I am willing to take the bullet and go to hell for you.  Simply dump that devil spawn bitcoin you own into the wallet in my signature.

Do you also give out indulgences?

[MoonShadow]

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

That wasn't complacency, that was willful restraint. 

[Desensitizer]

If this did not have religious implications no-one would be humoring this guy with responses. Of course not.

[QuestionAuthority]

Oh, and thank you and the rest of the mods for ignoring me. Without that complacency I would have been gone long ago.

That wasn't complacency, that was willful restraint. 

I hope you're not just saying that to make me happy!  180,000 members or so, at least 30% of them are different people, half of those are scammers and I'm the problem. I feel honored. lol

[redwraith]

Hahaha, I am sorry, I don't usually hate on threads, but this has to be one of the pointless threads I've ever seen.  What was going through your mind OP when you started it.  Were you just bored?  Was it divine inspiration?  Did a banker convince you that bicoins are, in the literal sense, the devil?

I'm pretty sure Gabriella is a paid shill.  Just look at his/her past posts.

[BitDreams]

The bible and Bitcoin both have a genesis block, are semi-anonymous, and are hard to understand.

The central characters in both have disappeared.

Quoting this so I remember it!

[speedtrader]

If Judas were alive today he would gladly exchange those thirty shekels for bitcoins.

[hilariousandco]

If Judas were alive today he would gladly exchange those thirty shekels for bitcoins.

There's already been a Bitcoin Judas bag to put them in:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298793.0

[eyjgvfdhbshm]

If the bible says it is ok to own and trade bread, it must be ok to own and trade bitcoins.

[FlappySocks]

The bible says it is ok to trade slaves too.

The book of Revelations will probably be Bitcoins downfall. Fox news will find someone that can prove every private key = 666, and that Satoshi Nakamoto is a socialist. 

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

[Trance]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

ohhhh dat ass!

haha =D dat ass doeeee

[BitcoinBarrel]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

Here's an interesting video about the Drupinar site in Turkey that many believe is the actual remains of Noah's Ark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ

Early geologists understood that fossilization only occurs during floodlike conditions. Fossils are found in Limestone which is used to make concrete. Heated limestone mixed with water makes mortar or basic concrete that dries in hours or days. If a world-wide flood occurred then all of the dirt, clay, sand and debris would settle according to their densities which would give us the "rock layers" that we see today. Gold panning works on this same principal.

Here is a picture of dirt layers separating while submerged in water:

From: http://umaine.edu/tanglewood/4-h-earth-connections/soil-air-water-exercises/

Also, a flood would explain the fossils and petrified trees found in multiple rock layers such as:


I guess my point is, the Bible has hundreds of historical references more than any other Book. What other book do you know talks about the Roman empire, Persians and Greeks, Israel and Egypt, the genealogy of mankind and many ancient cities that are still inhabited today like Damascus Syria, Tyre, Jericho, Gaza, Kush in Africa, Ethiopia, Samaria, Spain and many others.

Just because some things sound miraculous does not mean that it was not possible.

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

Children often have an uncanny knack for seeing the truth (at least until they've been thoroughly brainwashed), don't they?

PS: I knew you were an old man, but an 8 year old grandchild? I'm going to start calling you grandpa!

lol I married young and had children right away. I was only 38 when my first grandchild was born and her mother is trying very hard to pollute the child's mind. I told her to just daydream when she's in Sunday school and save all her energy for paying attention in regular school.  

[QuestionAuthority]

I wouldn't worry too much about Christians. The vast majority of them are sheep that are willing to be led around by a 2000 year old book if fiction with stories so stupid that they are difficult to sell to a small child. My 8 year old grandchild once, after her mother took her to Sunday school, told me the story of the great flood. She told me the people telling the story to her at the church were kind of silly. I asked why she thought that. She said, "because I've been to the zoo and they don't have every animal on the planet but no way did one guy and his family build a boat with hand tools, put two of everything on it and float around in a storm". All I could think to say to her was, "I'm so happy you take after your father instead of your mother".

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

Here's an interesting video about the Drupinar site in Turkey that many believe is the actual remains of Noah's Ark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ

Early geologists understood that fossilization only occurs during floodlike conditions. Fossils are found in Limestone which is used to make concrete. Heated limestone mixed with water makes mortar or basic concrete that dries in hours or days. If a world-wide flood occurred then all of the dirt, clay, sand and debris would settle according to their densities which would give us the "rock layers" that we see today. Gold panning works on this same principal.

Here is a picture of dirt layers separating while submerged in water:

From: http://umaine.edu/tanglewood/4-h-earth-connections/soil-air-water-exercises/

Also, a flood would explain the fossils and petrified trees found in multiple rock layers such as:


I guess my point is, the Bible has hundreds of historical references more than any other Book. What other book do you know talks about the Roman empire, Persians and Greeks, Israel and Egypt, the genealogy of mankind and many ancient cities that are still inhabited today like Damascus Syria, Tyre, Jericho, Gaza, Kush in Africa, Ethiopia, Samaria, Spain and many others.

Just because some things sound miraculous does not mean that it was not possible.

You see that simple hand tool in the picture? That simple tool is more advanced than what they had at the time for construction. Even a child can see that. Every modern work of fiction injects some truth and history to make the story believable. That doesn't make it true that just makes the writer adept at his craft. Star Trek sounds believable because they base the story on just enough science to make the story entertaining. Star Trek also has a huge faithful group of followers but I think I'll pass on making a religion out of the Star Trek series.

[MoonShadow]

The bible says it is ok to trade slaves too.

If you knew as much about the bible as you think you do, you would also know that the term 'slaves' as used in the context of the old testament is a mistranslation into English.  When we think of 'slaves' we think of chattel slavery, but the old testament does specify that, not only did "slaves" have rights (including work rules), but a faithful "slave" earned the hand of the master's eldest daughter after 7 years of service.  This was for the infidels that Jews captured in warfare, they were forbidden from buying servents from either one another or from infidels.  Can you imagine "modern" Islam (that considers Jews to be infidels) offering their eldest daughters to a Jewish man after seven years, even if he openly converted to Islam?

The concept of chattel slavery has no equivalent in the Bible, old or new; and was not permitted for the ancient Israelites, either.  For the most part, our modern concept of slavery (i.e. the ability to "own" another human being) can be traced back to the Persians.

[FlappySocks]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one.  And tragically, wars are fought over "my god is more real than your god".

What a waste.

Long live Bitcoin.

[QuestionAuthority]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one.  And tragically, wars are fought over "my god is more real than your god".

What a waste.

Long live Bitcoin.

Forget about it. Religious fanatics spend their entire life enveloped in research trying to prove to themselves that they aren't nuts for spending their lives believing in nonsense. I'm positive everything MoonShadow said is true because he is one of those researchers but all life you can waste on research won't make fantasy a reality.

[hilariousandco]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

And where did he keep all the viruses and diseases? Or did God create them all later for a laugh? Even most biblical scholars don't believe Noah's ark to be literal, but that's usually what they always say when science or reality proves them otherwise.

[MoonShadow]

There is not one scarp of evidence for a god. Not one. 

Of course not.  If there were any real evidence of God, or even of a spirtual plane of any kind, your freedom of choice would cease to exist.  You choose to not seek, which is fine.  Your salvation is your problem, not mine.  I have no interest in convincing you otherwise, but to assume that just because wars have been fought with religion as the official cause are the true drivers for the kings and warlords that prosecute such wars is to be woefully ignorant of both history and human nature.  The principle of 'Baptists & bootleggers' has been true for thousands of years, or as long as human civilizations have existed, whichever is longer.

[QuestionAuthority]

You can trust my word because I will live forever. I'm Kartaphilos, Pontius Pilot's gatekeeper. lol

[MGK-]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

+1

I stopped reading at this because there is no chance it could get any better.

[FlappySocks]

You choose to not seek, which is fine.

Wrong.  Your talking to an ex-Christian.  Brainwashed from birth, and suffered for it.  Then did the seeking thing. Only it was all a bunch of phooey.

[MoonShadow]

You choose to not seek, which is fine.

Wrong.  Your talking to an ex-Christian.  Brainwashed from birth, and suffered for it.  Then did the seeking thing. Only it was all a bunch of phooey.

I'm not wrong at all.  You're damaged, therefore you do not seek.  I, myself, am a "reformed" Catholic.  I don't hate the Roman church because of the way I was raised; for that matter, I can't really put the blame on the church doctrine, but only on the particular interpretations of individuals.  And yes, there was a time in my life that I strongly questioned the existance of God, and I did not seek. (or more accurately, simply thought I sought)  Time heals all wounds, but some require more time than others.

I can honestly say that I've never really met an athiest, although I've met many who claim to be an athiest.  Upon inquiry, I've found that all of them were either agnostic (they didn't know if God exists, not that they believed that God could not exist) or they were damaged souls who had (in practice, not necessarily in doctrine) been taught that God is "a vengful God" that demanded loyalty and obedience, regardless of how well his appointed representatives in the lives of any particular child displayed their godlyness.  The obvious reaction to a vengful God is rejection.


Without a doubt, if you require scientific proof that God exists before you can have faith, then you will never find it.  But I know from personal experience that a more personal form of 'proof' will often present itself when sought.  There is nothing that I can tell you that would convience you that I'm more than insane or a great storyteller, but I've seen proof enough.

[MoonShadow]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

The idea that Noah couldn't have hired locals who thought he was insane is, likewise, ridiculous.

And viri and bacteria can live fine under water.  They didn't need to be in the ark any more than the fish did.

[QuestionAuthority]

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

The idea that Noah couldn't have hired locals who thought he was insane is, likewise, ridiculous.

And viri and bacteria can live fine under water.  They didn't need to be in the ark any more than the fish did.

Realllllly? lol

What about the freshwater fish. Did he get big fishbowls with aerators from Amazon using Bitcoins to hold them in? Did he build another huge boat to tow behind the main boat to store the mountains of hay and other foods required for all the animals to not starve?

To most scientists, it is common knowledge that the atmosphere and the world could not contain enough water to cover the tops of all the mountains on earth. Water does not evaporate into space, so to speak and all the water that was ever contained by the earth is still here in one form or another.

Noah’s family also lacked a sufficient gene pool to guarantee continuation of our species once the ark landed. Even if we assume that they were successful in surviving against these unprecedented odds, could we have all descended from only eight original members? Genetic markers, such as DNA, are excellent timekeepers to determine the interval back to a common ancestor. Since delving into the subject in sufficient detail would require a book in itself, just understand that it’s possible to observe the deviation of DNA strands by retroactively measuring them to a common strand. This period back to a common ancestor has been determined to be tens of thousands of years, an age remarkably consistent with the ones established for human civilization remains through previously mentioned dating methods. We do not see the five thousand years that our DNA would reveal if all humans descended from the sole survivors of God’s flood.

[VRTROOP]

9 pages beers on the wall 900 beers on the WALL

[BitChick]

although the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church once considered it illegal for the common guy to own a bible, and the bible was not to be translated to languages the masses could read.

The CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church adopted many pagan traditions to get more people into their church, they edited the traditions to look more biblical-ish but they're still based on worshiping other gods or keeping old sometimes satanic traditions.  (For example Easter and halloween, Easter being a holiday in honor of Ostara, a Germanic god and halloween being a ritual of wiccans, which by the way can be traced all the way back to the priests of ancient Egypt).

the CATHOLIC (NOT PROTESTANT) church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

Necessary additions added.

It is because of these very things that Martin Luther got pissed off and formed "Protest" ant Reformation.

And why Catholics and Protestants don't like eachother much to this day.  

Yes.  Of course I think that is changing a bit thankfully.  I would like to see a more unified church of both, as I think Martin Luther really would have preferred but did not have much of a choice, unfortunately.

That said, I posted a while ago on another thread how people should be excited that the Bible foretells the success of Bitcoin, or something similar indirectly.  I think that Bitcoin is NOT evil.  In fact, it is the opposite.  It gives us too much freedom and that is why the governments (or one unified leader a.k.a "Antichrist" at some point) will want to oppress us by trying to force us to take some mark in order to see where all the money is being spent and thus tax us for that.  It seems a logical outcome if Bitcoin does become wildly successful.  Governments will HATE it.  They will lose their power to control and need to do something drastic.  Bitcoin could in fact be a catalyst of what causes this but it is not the problem.  Just my thoughts on it all.

[hilariousandco]

I can honestly say that I've never really met a Christian although I've met many who claim to be a Christian.  Upon inquiry, I've found that all of them were either agnostic (they didn't know if God exists, not that they believed that God could not exist) or they were damaged souls who had (in practice, not necessarily in doctrine) been taught that God is "a vengful God" that demanded loyalty and obedience, regardless of how well his appointed representatives in the lives of any particular child displayed their godlyness.  The obvious reaction to a vengful God is rejection.

Fixed. I'd probably consider myself an Atheistic Agnostic, because I don't believe I have all the answers or you can say with 100% proof there is no god, and I suppose their could be one or many, but I have no reason to believe there are.

Without a doubt, if you require scientific proof that God exists before you can have faith, then you will never find it.  But I know from personal experience that a more personal form of 'proof' will often present itself when sought.  There is nothing that I can tell you that would convience you that I'm more than insane or a great storyteller, but I've seen proof enough.

I don't really require scientific proof and I don't see how anyone can prove that something doesn't exist any way, but when something appears to no one, says nothing and does nothing, I tend to believe that it does not exist.

It was two of every Kind of animal not every species. The Ark was around 500 feet long and 3 stories tall. If Noah had gathered the animals when they were young and not full grown, then it would be entirely possible. Think of how many people can fit in a football stadium.

I think the idea of one guy building an ark that is as big as a football pitch to be just as ridiculous.

The idea that Noah couldn't have hired locals who thought he was insane is, likewise, ridiculous.

And viri and bacteria can live fine under water.  They didn't need to be in the ark any more than the fish did.

And what about all the parasites etc? And also AIDS. That didn't spring up until the twentieth century along with all sorts of other nasty diseases that are appearing all the time. Either you believe according to science that these diseases adapt/evolve/mutate etc, or you believe God made them, which would make him even more of an empire state bastard.

[MoonShadow]

To most scientists, it is common knowledge that the atmosphere and the world could not contain enough water to cover the tops of all the mountains on earth. Water does not evaporate into space, so to speak and all the water that was ever contained by the earth is still here in one form or another.

I'm aware of that, and there are other explainations that are more plausible.  There is some evidence that much of the known world suffered a massive saltwater flooding event around 8 to 10 thousand years ago.  That is not to say that I think that this particular story is factually accurate, but it's not necessarily just a story either.

Noah’s family also lacked a sufficient gene pool to guarantee continuation of our species once the ark landed. Even if we assume that they were successful in surviving against these unprecedented odds, could we have all descended from only eight original members? Genetic markers, such as DNA, are excellent timekeepers to determine the interval back to a common ancestor.

Actually, we could have.  Our most recent common ancestor was during the middle ages.  http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html

However, even the bible cannon contradicts itself on whether or not they were the only people to survive.  It's more likely that they were the only people to survive that they considered of note.  Keep in mind that most of the patriarchs of Genisis are there because they were the wealthy leaders of a large "household".  A more recent comparison would be the original owners of Biltmore; whose official household consisted of only three people, but lived inside the largest single private residence in the Western world with nearly 1000 staff members.  Certainly, Noah wasn't the only family to own a boat at the time.

Since delving into the subject in sufficient detail would require a book in itself, just understand that it’s possible to observe the deviation of DNA strands by retroactively measuring them to a common strand. This period back to a common ancestor has been determined to be tens of thousands of years, an age remarkably consistent with the ones established for human civilization remains through previously mentioned dating methods. We do not see the five thousand years that our DNA would reveal if all humans descended from the sole survivors of God’s flood.

I didn't say that I was a young earth advocate.

[MoonShadow]

And what about all the parasites etc? And also AIDS. That didn't spring up until the twentieth century along with all sorts of other nasty diseases that are appearing all the time. Either you believe according to science that these diseases adapt/evolve/mutate etc, or you believe God made them, which would make him even more of an empire state bastard.

That's still a false choice.  It's entirely possible to view 'natural selection' as it as known today as one process (perhaps one of many) by which God creates.  Like setting up the rules and letting the program run.  While it's demonstratablely true that teh process of natural selection is the dominate force in play today, that does not show that it's always been the case.  We, almost certainly, don't completely understand that process itself, because there are many examples of species on earth that do not conform to our understanding of natural selection and it's outcomes.  I have personally met many professors that will admit this, and a few that have openly converted to a more biblical worldview due to these same contradictions.

[MoonShadow]

I don't really require scientific proof and I don't see how anyone can prove that something doesn't exist any way,

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

 but when something appears to no one, says nothing and does nothing, I tend to believe that it does not exist.

There are many things that you have no personal evidence that exist, yet you have faith that they do.  I'm sure that I can guess a few.

[Gator-hex]

The Bible says.

Usury: Lending money at interest is bad. (Fiat is money backed by debt it only has value because we are all in debt) Government for our parents to register our birth and we are used as collateral against government loans. The Bond holder is your slave master.

Fair weights and measures: Cheating people on the value of their money is bad. (The value of fiat is manipulated by Exchange Stabilization Funds and Bond purchases) Inflation means most people will have to keep working until they die!

The most important video you will ever watch on how debt based fiat money really works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

[Gabi]

Let's speak about Romulans and their cloaking devices, do they exists?

[Gator-hex]

I have faith that Jesus walked on water. I just kind of figured it was winter.

There is no evidence it was winter.  

Wouldn't matter.  The Sea of Galliee never freezes.

It does snow in the deserts, and reach freezing temperatures overnight, plenty of evidence of it on YouTube, and this is during Global Warming.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7aXUW8B9Co
I don't believe in global warming, or everything in the bible, but Jesus was probably real (multiple evidence sources), and had a positive message for humanity.

[QuestionAuthority]

To most scientists, it is common knowledge that the atmosphere and the world could not contain enough water to cover the tops of all the mountains on earth. Water does not evaporate into space, so to speak and all the water that was ever contained by the earth is still here in one form or another.

I'm aware of that, and there are other explainations that are more plausible.  There is some evidence that much of the known world suffered a massive saltwater flooding event around 8 to 10 thousand years ago.  That is not to say that I think that this particular story is factually accurate, but it's not necessarily just a story either.

Noah’s family also lacked a sufficient gene pool to guarantee continuation of our species once the ark landed. Even if we assume that they were successful in surviving against these unprecedented odds, could we have all descended from only eight original members? Genetic markers, such as DNA, are excellent timekeepers to determine the interval back to a common ancestor.

Actually, we could have.  Our most recent common ancestor was during the middle ages.  http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html

However, even the bible cannon contradicts itself on whether or not they were the only people to survive.  It's more likely that they were the only people to survive that they considered of note.  Keep in mind that most of the patriarchs of Genisis are there because they were the wealthy leaders of a large "household".  A more recent comparison would be the original owners of Biltmore; whose official household consisted of only three people, but lived inside the largest single private residence in the Western world with nearly 1000 staff members.  Certainly, Noah wasn't the only family to own a boat at the time.

Since delving into the subject in sufficient detail would require a book in itself, just understand that it’s possible to observe the deviation of DNA strands by retroactively measuring them to a common strand. This period back to a common ancestor has been determined to be tens of thousands of years, an age remarkably consistent with the ones established for human civilization remains through previously mentioned dating methods. We do not see the five thousand years that our DNA would reveal if all humans descended from the sole survivors of God’s flood.

I didn't say that I was a young earth advocate.

You're just making up your own religion as you go along. That's a fine concept with plenty of support or their wouldn't be so many different sects of the Christian cult. That's the biggest problem with Christianity for me. If there's something you don't like about it you just don't believe that part and move on. You do that too much and there's no reason to keep believing.

If you take a simple quote like Timothy 2:12: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet." That's pretty understandable given the climate at the time but in modern times it just doesn't work so let's throw it out.

Or the likes of Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman", because it's bad, m'kay. That's obviously not going to work in the modern world let's chuck it out.

I don't like Psalm 137:9 either: "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." I don't care what lesson you're trying to teach or what metaphor revolves around this, just keep kids out of it. Let's just forget that one was ever in there because there is never a reason good enough to kill kids. Chuck it out.

Can we just keep kids out of this Jeremiah 19:9: "And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them." Get this outa there.

Why does HE hate children so much 2 Kings 2:23-24: "23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." Obviously we don't need to read about children being mauled by a curse from GOD.

If I remove all of the things that are either sick, disgusting or stupid then I'm not left with enough canvas to paint my religion on. I'd rather just scrap this one and start over.

[hilariousandco]

You're just making up your own religion as you go along. That's a fine concept with plenty of support or their wouldn't be so many different sects of the Christian cult. That's the biggest problem with Christianity for me. If there's something you don't like about it you just don't believe that part and move on. You do that too much and there's no reason to keep believing.

If you take a simple quote like Timothy 2:12: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet." That's pretty understandable given the climate at the time but in modern times it just doesn't work so let's throw it out.

Or the likes of Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman", because it's bad, m'kay. That's obviously not going to work in the modern world let's chuck it out.

I don't like Psalm 137:9 either: "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." I don't care what lesson you're trying to teach or what metaphor revolves around this, just keep kids out of it. Let's just forget that one was ever in there because there is never a reason good enough to kill kids. Chuck it out.

Can we just keep kids out of this Jeremiah 19:9: "And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them." Get this outa there.

Why does HE hate children so much 2 Kings 2:23-24: "23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." Obviously we don't need to read about children being mauled by a curse from GOD.

If I remove all of the things that are either sick, disgusting or stupid then I'm not left with enough canvas to paint my religion on. I'd rather just scrap this one and start over.

Yeah, but almost all of them are Old Testament verses, and a lot of Christians tend to just discredit all the Old Testament as hooey to get out of explaining them. I do believe in one thing; if there is a god, I think all religion's would be an absolute insult to his/her/its intelligence.

My favourite biblical quote: "nothing" - god.

[N1no]

Max Keiser states: Satoshi Nakamoto = the return of Christ / Cyber-Christ to save us from financial destruction.
So if he says that... all the Christians can start accepting bitcoin 

ps.

If the Catholic church starts using bitcoin... that would be so great!

[MikeyVeez]

All the scientific proof you need.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Most advanced scientists all come to the same conclusion that god exists. Just because you deem that there is no scientific proof doesn't make it reality, if all you did was 2 seconds of googling im sure you would find plenty of scientific information. Proof can also be found personal testimonies and observing the world.

Has it ever crossed your mind why humanities whole time system is based on Jesus name? The whole worlds meaning of time is split based on the death of Jesus. Before Christ and After Death. Do you think a false lie would have such a huge long lasting impact on humanity?

Usually the people who reject the teachings of Christianity, true Christianity not what some church leader tells you for his benefit, are usually hate to say it but evil filled people.

The teachings of Christianity

Love yourself as one another. And that god the creator of the universe came and sacrificed himself and let himself willingly get murdered for us to have immortal life?

So which part of Jesus do you guys hate so much? The love people part? Well if you do than it just shows what a complete evil person you are.

Btw I was an atheist than agnostic/new age then I cried out to god of the universe and asked him to show me himself and his true name, and Jesus was the only one who answered. No I was not brought up in a christian home and never knew about Jesus. The things that happened to me which I calculated the probabilities to happen were literally .000000000000000001% chance, the fact that these events happened based on a probability of never happening in 1 billion lifetimes is enough scientific proof for me.

If you truly have an honest and loving heart, meaning you were always the person helping people because you were just a nice person. Call out to Jesus and ask him to prove himself to you, if you sincerely mean it, you will see enough scientific evidence in your life to prove gods and his existence.

God says whoever truly desires to find him will, I did that day not knowing his name and I found him.

[MikeyVeez]

The earth is flat! What most people think of science and the bible, yet if they again spent a few seconds researching they would realize that the bible actually taught a round earth, and some of moderns science recent discoveries about expansion and mass.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tba/universe-confirms-bible

[BitChick]

MikeyVeez-  

Answers in Genesis is one of my favorite organizations.  We have given several large donations to them.  I love that they are providing answers for people that really need them.  Not everyone cares to research, but for those that need more scientific evidence they can at least find it here.  AIG should take BTC.  

I do ponder if Christians are worried about using BTC or investing in it because of what it says in the book of Revelation.  I personally think Christians should be very interested in it, just from the standpoint that it is outside of governments control and that could be useful in a time where persecution is rampant.  I don't know.  Maybe I am overthinking this?  But hubby and I literally felt led of God to buy some.  Sound strange but it is true!

[QuestionAuthority]

MikeyVeez-  

Answers in Genesis is one of my favorite organizations.  We have given several large donations to them.  I love that they are providing answers for people that really need them.  Not everyone cares to research, but for those that need more scientific evidence they can at least find it here.  AIG should take BTC.  

I do ponder if Christians are worried about using BTC or investing in it because of what it says in the book of Revelation.  I personally think Christians should be very interested in it, just from the standpoint that it is outside of governments control and that could be useful in a time where persecution is rampant.  I don't know.  Maybe I am overthinking this?  But hubby and I literally felt led of God to buy some.  Sound strange but it is true!

That's funny. God led you to Bitcoin? Is he trying to start the rapture by creating the one world currency? I guess enough time has passed. It does seem overdue.

[DeepCryptoanalist3]

although the church did not write the bible, in fact they tried to suppress the bible because their business scheme is not compatible with the bible at all.

So the bible fell from the sky? Church did write the bible http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

[Poly Coins]

I have concluded that Revelations talks about AltCoins:

In his apocalyptic vision in the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John sees the “beast,” also called the Antichrist, rising out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns (Revelation 13:1). Combining this vision with Daniel’s similar one (Daniel 7:16-24), we can conclude that some sort of world system will be inaugurated by the beast, the most powerful “horn,” who will defeat the other nine and will begin to wage war against Christians.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/one-world-government.html#ixzz2oKF6zGl8

[Gamer67]

[BitChick]

MikeyVeez-  

Answers in Genesis is one of my favorite organizations.  We have given several large donations to them.  I love that they are providing answers for people that really need them.  Not everyone cares to research, but for those that need more scientific evidence they can at least find it here.  AIG should take BTC.  

I do ponder if Christians are worried about using BTC or investing in it because of what it says in the book of Revelation.  I personally think Christians should be very interested in it, just from the standpoint that it is outside of governments control and that could be useful in a time where persecution is rampant.  I don't know.  Maybe I am overthinking this?  But hubby and I literally felt led of God to buy some.  Sound strange but it is true!

That's funny. God led you to Bitcoin? Is he trying to start the rapture by creating the one world currency? I guess enough time has passed. It does seem overdue.

Maybe He just wanted to bless us with funds to give to various charities or needs?  I have learned that when God speaks that it is wise to just do what He says.  I can't see the "big picture" but He can.  Maybe putting my trust in USD is really stupid and God knows this so He is saying that I should diversify?   If He is ready to rapture the church that is fine with me too.  Life on this planet gets tiresome.  I had a pastor once say that this life is the closest to hell we will ever be.  Seems about right.  To "live is Christ but to die is gain."  But I digress.

As for listening to God, the times in my life when I decided to do my own thing and not ask or listen to God's advice is when I really screwed things up big time.  

Of course, many on this board do not think that they are in need of a relationship with God/Jesus.  I guess they are smarter or wiser than He is or do not think He exists and think I am just crazy but the book of Proverbs has plenty to say about that so I will not post anything. Everyone can just read it for themselves if they are interested.

[QuestionAuthority]

MikeyVeez-  

Answers in Genesis is one of my favorite organizations.  We have given several large donations to them.  I love that they are providing answers for people that really need them.  Not everyone cares to research, but for those that need more scientific evidence they can at least find it here.  AIG should take BTC.  

I do ponder if Christians are worried about using BTC or investing in it because of what it says in the book of Revelation.  I personally think Christians should be very interested in it, just from the standpoint that it is outside of governments control and that could be useful in a time where persecution is rampant.  I don't know.  Maybe I am overthinking this?  But hubby and I literally felt led of God to buy some.  Sound strange but it is true!

That's funny. God led you to Bitcoin? Is he trying to start the rapture by creating the one world currency? I guess enough time has passed. It does seem overdue.

Maybe He just wanted to bless us with funds to give to various charities or needs?  I have learned that when God speaks that it is wise to just do what He says.  I can't see the "big picture" but He can.  Maybe putting my trust in USD is really stupid and God knows this so He is saying that I should diversify?   If He is ready to rapture the church that is fine with me too.  Life on this planet gets tiresome.  I had a pastor once say that this life is the closest to hell we will ever be.  Seems about right.  To "live is Christ but to die is gain."  But I digress.

As for listening to God, the times in my life when I decided to do my own thing and not ask or listen to God's advice is when I really screwed things up big time.  

Of course, many on this board do not think that they are in need of a relationship with God/Jesus.  I guess they are smarter or wiser than He is or do not think He exists and think I am just crazy but the book of Proverbs has plenty to say about that so I will not post anything. Everyone can just read it for themselves if they are interested.

That's the way Christianity should be presented. Bravo.

[JohnyBigs]

MikeyVeez-  

Answers in Genesis is one of my favorite organizations.  We have given several large donations to them.  I love that they are providing answers for people that really need them.  Not everyone cares to research, but for those that need more scientific evidence they can at least find it here.  AIG should take BTC.  

I do ponder if Christians are worried about using BTC or investing in it because of what it says in the book of Revelation.  I personally think Christians should be very interested in it, just from the standpoint that it is outside of governments control and that could be useful in a time where persecution is rampant.  I don't know.  Maybe I am overthinking this?  But hubby and I literally felt led of God to buy some.  Sound strange but it is true!

That's funny. God led you to Bitcoin? Is he trying to start the rapture by creating the one world currency? I guess enough time has passed. It does seem overdue.

Maybe He just wanted to bless us with funds to give to various charities or needs?  I have learned that when God speaks that it is wise to just do what He says.  I can't see the "big picture" but He can.  Maybe putting my trust in USD is really stupid and God knows this so He is saying that I should diversify?   If He is ready to rapture the church that is fine with me too.  Life on this planet gets tiresome.  I had a pastor once say that this life is the closest to hell we will ever be.  Seems about right.  To "live is Christ but to die is gain."  But I digress.

As for listening to God, the times in my life when I decided to do my own thing and not ask or listen to God's advice is when I really screwed things up big time.  

Of course, many on this board do not think that they are in need of a relationship with God/Jesus.  I guess they are smarter or wiser than He is or do not think He exists and think I am just crazy but the book of Proverbs has plenty to say about that so I will not post anything. Everyone can just read it for themselves if they are interested.

Of course Bitcoin will not be the one world currency spoken of in revelations, we probably won't even be here when that occurs. I think investing in Bitcoin just like investing in general with Fiat is perfectly fine. Jesus paid taxes to Caesar and they used the legal currency of the Roman empire at the time. Even though the fiat system is based on evil, there is nothing that we can do.

Bitcoin though is paving the subconscious of peoples mind to one day accept the one world digital currency, again just because Bitcoin is doing this indirectly does not mean Christians cannot get involved with it and use it, just as Fiat/Taxes are used for much worst evil things.

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"

[jbreher]

The price of the beast:

[FlappySocks]

Bitcoin will probably speed up Christianity's demise, just like the internet is doing. Bitcoin has the potential to aid developing nations give empowerment to the poor. Better internet penetration, brings better education, and less superstition.

[JackRecher69]

the church is based on lies and satanic rituals, so it's no wonder they don't give a single shit about what's in the bible, but that doesn't make the bible any less true.

If I'm to choose between one evil and another, I'd rather not choose at all. - Geralt of Rivia

[MoonShadow]

To most scientists, it is common knowledge that the atmosphere and the world could not contain enough water to cover the tops of all the mountains on earth. Water does not evaporate into space, so to speak and all the water that was ever contained by the earth is still here in one form or another.

I'm aware of that, and there are other explainations that are more plausible.  There is some evidence that much of the known world suffered a massive saltwater flooding event around 8 to 10 thousand years ago.  That is not to say that I think that this particular story is factually accurate, but it's not necessarily just a story either.

Noah’s family also lacked a sufficient gene pool to guarantee continuation of our species once the ark landed. Even if we assume that they were successful in surviving against these unprecedented odds, could we have all descended from only eight original members? Genetic markers, such as DNA, are excellent timekeepers to determine the interval back to a common ancestor.

Actually, we could have.  Our most recent common ancestor was during the middle ages.  http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html

However, even the bible cannon contradicts itself on whether or not they were the only people to survive.  It's more likely that they were the only people to survive that they considered of note.  Keep in mind that most of the patriarchs of Genisis are there because they were the wealthy leaders of a large "household".  A more recent comparison would be the original owners of Biltmore; whose official household consisted of only three people, but lived inside the largest single private residence in the Western world with nearly 1000 staff members.  Certainly, Noah wasn't the only family to own a boat at the time.

Since delving into the subject in sufficient detail would require a book in itself, just understand that it’s possible to observe the deviation of DNA strands by retroactively measuring them to a common strand. This period back to a common ancestor has been determined to be tens of thousands of years, an age remarkably consistent with the ones established for human civilization remains through previously mentioned dating methods. We do not see the five thousand years that our DNA would reveal if all humans descended from the sole survivors of God’s flood.

I didn't say that I was a young earth advocate.

You're just making up your own religion as you go along.

More precisely I'm reading the bible, cannon and more, and making up my own mind about what parts I agree with.  I don't agree with the doctrine of divine preservation, either.  You make thinking for oneself sound like a bad thing.  You do realize that every protestant religion is founded upon the idea that the other guys had some detail wrong, don't you?

[MoonShadow]

Bitcoin will probably speed up Christianity's demise, just like the internet is doing. Bitcoin has the potential to aid developing nations give empowerment to the poor. Better internet penetration, brings better education, and less superstition.

The Most Evangelistic Generation
They've been called "the social justice generation," and for good reason—Millennials are actively taking up the cause of the poor, the oppressed, the orphan and the widow. Yet the most common critique leveled at this surge in social compassion is that it comes at a great expense. Sure, skeptics argue, they might feed the hungry and free the captives in this life, but what about the next? According to this view, Millennials are elevating physical needs over spiritual needs and forgoing evangelism altogether.

Yet the latest Barna research reveals this is not the case.

In fact, in answer to the question of evangelism on the rise or in decline, Millennials are a rare case indeed. While the evangelistic practices of all other generations have either declined or remained static in the past few years, Millennials are the only generation among whom evangelism is significantly on the rise. Their faith-sharing practices have escalated from 56% in 2010 to 65% in 2013.

Not only that, but born again Millennials share their faith more than any other generation today. Nearly two-thirds (65%) have presented the Gospel to another within the past year, in contrast to the national average of about half (52%) of born again Christians.

https://www.barna.org/barna-update/faith-spirituality/648-is-evangelism-going-out-of-style#.UrkeevbrmFb

And this, from the only generation that can't remember a time before the Internet.  Perhaps you might be projecting?

[Gamer67]

[c789]

The only currency system of the future mentioned in the Bible would belong to the one-world government (therefore, not Bitcoin since Bitcoin is not Fiat).

Also, the currency mentioned in Revelation has a physical connection to each person:

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. - Revelation 13:16-17

So again, this doesn't describe Bitcoin.

[t1000]

God can make the 21000001st bitcoin spendable. 

If you only had 5 bitcoins and 2 litecoins, you can pay 5000 people some bitcoins and some litecoins each. You can't buy much fish for 2 litecoins (yet), but imagine, 5 bitcoins worth of bread, that's a lot of bread.

Taking $700 as the price of a bitcoin, 5 bitcoins can get you $3500 worth of bread. At $2 a loaf, that's 1750 loaves. If each loaf has 20 slices, every person will get 7 slices of bread, enough for a meal.

[QuestionAuthority]

I'm not clear what statement your making with a dogs butthole. You need to provide a little context to troll properly.

[outofservice]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

+1 LMAO

[byteflush]

Bitcoin is explicitly forbidden in the Bible, you just have to read between the lines.
And if the Bible you are reading is the one I interpreted once in a hotel room - you could clearly read, in between the lines:

"Thou shalt be forgiven if thou donated your BitCoins to the one true address in byteflush's signature"

Written by a dark blue pen.
Mystery solved.


EDIT: Of course, someone may have mentioned this before, I haven't read all the replies, just skimmed through.

[hilariousandco]

I'm not clear what statement your making with a dogs butthole. You need to provide a little context to troll properly.

Can you not see Jesus?

[HeliKopterBen]

If you are looking for one world currency, you might want to look at the $, the current world's reserve currency.  It better fits the bill at this point in time.

When your government decides that you should physically have a QR code, device, or something placed on or implanted in your right hand or forehead to be able to use a currency (no matter what that currency may be), then it is time to run for the hills. They will likely claim that it is for security purposes as a guaranteed way to make sure you can't loose your money or have it stolen, a physical wallet of sorts.  I doubt it will be bitcoin, but likely a government sanctioned digital currency "backed by the full faith and credit" of said government.

Jesus was right.

[kuverty]

Jesus, how come this thread is always in the first page of Bitcoin discussion? There's more relevant Bitcoin discussion going on in the off-topic section. Do you guys live in the Bible Belt or why is this thread not long forgotten?

[QuestionAuthority]

I'm not clear what statement your making with a dogs butthole. You need to provide a little context to troll properly.

Can you not see Jesus?

I can now. LOL

It's a Christmas miracle! Funny that god spelled backwards is dog.

[luqash3]

gabriella I really didn’t understand what you need to say. Kindly elaborate your point of view. And please anyone on the forum mention the wording of the bible that restrict or allow the usage of bitcoins. I shall be looking forward to your authentic response that shall be useful for everyone. Currently in my opinion bitcoins are not against the bible.

[ISAWHIM]

Depends which "The bible", you are talking about, there are thousands and thousands of "The bibles"...

I will assume you are talking about the generic one the "Christians" use, who are most noted for calling their version of "A bible", "The Bible". (I will also assume it includes "Old Testament", and the "New Testament", which is a series of "Things they disagreed with, from the original testaments, and were compelled to change to suit the needs of obtaining more followers/believers.")

To worship "money", is a sin. (This includes any possession that can be bartered, like bitcoins.)

The standard thing that is asked, to show you are not worshiping the thing in question, is to give it away to the church, so it can be given to someone-else. (Someone, who I might add, apparently does worship it, and is wanton/needy for it. But only after they have accumulated enough abundance of your non-worshiped funds, to pay their own bills. It is an expensive operation to run a religious business and convince more people to believe that they need to give them more money.)

Though, I believe you can just randomly give away your money, but that won't get you a tax-write-off, without a legal receipt. Gods are picky about that. Says so in the IRS documentation.

If the thing in question, which is being used as money, does not say, "In God We Trust"... The church may not accept it. Though, they always make exceptions to every rule. Even the first set of ten-commandments, which was actually destroyed, because people just were not able to obey those rules. Though, the second set of ten-commandments were just odd, so you may not even know those. I don't think they actually publish that "new commandments", anymore. They just lead you to believe the first ten, that were actually destroyed, are the current ones. Because they reinforce that you should not worship things like money. (To worship is to "Use and desire selfishly". You shouldn't use what you earn, or desire to be paid, and should always give it away to someone who does worship it, and will use it, and desires it more than you. That's just the rules... Well, the first set, which was destroyed.)

But I digress... BTC is the devil, it hit $666USD several times this month, as proof... near Jesus's birthday... who wasn't even born in winter... but, seems like a great time to celebrate his birthday, so it was changed. He was given gold on his birthday, but I am sure he gave it away.

Don't use BTC or you support the devil. Give it all to me, and I will dispose of it for you, freeing you from potential hell-fire! Use the address in my signature to liberate yourself!

[byteflush]

^^^ That is what the Bible was warning us about! It's the fake Christ, AntiChrist even! Donate all your BTC to me or you'll miss salvation!!

[undeadbitcoiner]

Untill about positive concerns everything is good.
Lets not forget that Even in that time people use to use worldy exchanges of corns and word which in todays world is electronic word.

[byteflush]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk

It was on the third tablet. I knew it.

[Lehtikala]

http://btcprayer.com
Bingo!

[hyunsookmom]

Bitcoin will probably speed up Christianity's demise, just like the internet is doing. Bitcoin has the potential to aid developing nations give empowerment to the poor. Better internet penetration, brings better education, and less superstition.

hahaha yeah cause Christianity strong for the last 2,000 years and before that Judaism has really been dying a death recently. Fact, the largest growth in the church for the last decade has been in China. So the internet has been declining there has it? Now who's dealing in superstition? Dumbass. I thought Atheistics were supposed to be smart?

This whole once we are smarter we will stop believing in a God is about as retarded as it proponents.

[techstorm2]

Im an atheist so dnt give a s??t what a book written by humans says about it.

 

[Prayer]

I seem to recall something about how on the 2**21st day, God said "Let there be Coin"

Oh, wait... that was in reverence to NXT.  I guess the Bible would never include a reference to an information age 'caveman' discovering a coin and sharing that knowledge freely with others, culminating in a(n) (r)evolutionary economic paradigm.

Hrrm.. that would make for an interesting double-paneled cartoon.  Too bad I'm not much of an artist.

[arlene05973]

Now Now ... lets respect people's belief systems.

You guys are going to hear a lot more of this in the coming months / years.

There is no doubt Bitcoin is the first evidence of a one world currency.

And that is mentioned in the Bible, specifically.

Before that, they feared it would be the Euro ...

If Bitcoin succeeds, it very well may be the medium of exchange associated with the "mark of the beast" one day.

And that's only awesome news.  Because then Jesus comes back in the sky, and the rapture happens, and then there's a big cage fight with the devil, with beheading of Christians (this part not awesome), and fiery pits, and all that good stuff.

Translation:   Life won't be boring anymore.

"....if Bitcoin succeeds, it very well may be the medium of exchange associated with the "mark of the beast" one day...."

which mark of the beast? that revelation was clearly stated that the currency will be control by specific group of people (leader) with sovereign power and only those who accept these mark are free to use the currency.

Now, point of clarification base on your comment above :
It will be impossible for some group of people with sovereign power to control bitcoin if, that was what the bible meant

Secondly, anybody(everybody) is free to use bitcoin without subject to accepting the mark of the beast.

My dear, do you now understand that your comment is irrelevant to what the bible was referring to as the mark of the beast in the book of revelation?

Thanks

[CT:Levi]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Bitcoin is a "mark of the beast" myahahahaha (where is devil smiley?? 0__o)..
http://cointelegraph.com/news/is-bitcoin-the-mark-of-the-beast-op-ed

[ekoice]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

Bible never said anything like that and nothing about bit coins either. But keeping in view of today's fast life and needs of human beings, bit coin seems to be a comfortable option as well as blessing for human being by Jesus Christ for better and safer earning.

[Jet Cash]

Remember the 7th commandment - thou shalt not commit forking.

[arlene05973]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Bitcoin is a "mark of the beast" myahahahaha (where is devil smiley?? 0__o)..
http://cointelegraph.com/news/is-bitcoin-the-mark-of-the-beast-op-ed

 


Don't be decieve Bro. 

....Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.....

2 Timothy 2:15 KJV

[Daniel91]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Well, Bible talks about moral and ethics in human life.
Such principles can and should apply in every aspect of human life, including business and life.
So, if you act honestly, don't cheat others and do your best to promote bitcoin, you act accordingly to this basic life principles.
God didn't want us to become slaves to the banks or regular jobs but to experience financial freedom as well, spend quality time with family, relax and enjoy life etc.

[the_poet]

Apparently, the Pope thinks money (including Bitcoin) is the devil's dung, but the Church owns lots of it (maybe even Bitcoin).

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Money-is-the-devils-dung-says-Pope-Francis-in-fiery-speech.html

[Blawpaw]

The bible says:

BUY & HOLD BITCOIN

[hawkins]

The bible says:

BUY & HOLD BITCOIN

LOL. it's funny, maybe it's bible for user bitcoin  

[jtipt]

The bible says,
Wtf is bitcoin? Eh guys?

[thejaytiesto]

There's nothing about the Bible that could relate to Bitcoin in any shape or form without stretching whatever is said on the Bible into a ridiculous amount to try to reach some conclusion. I think that's exactly how the Bible was written, ambiguous so it could be used in a variety of context, but Bitcoin is way too advanced to be predicted on that old book, whoever wrote it didn't took enough drugs to imagine a decentralized internet currency.

[AliceWonderMiscreations]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

It does say "Core is the node of the Lord your God, though shalt not use Xt or Classic"

So that doesn't mean Bitcoin is against the ten commandments, you just have to use the right software.

And - and send a tithe to the Prophet AliceWonderMiscreations - 10% of every transaction you receive. Otherwise you may end up in alt coin purgatory trading Quark Coin.

[BitcoinPenny]

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

Oh, no! And I just bought three of the iPhone 6 for the family. 

Me

[Bestwishes745]

It is a currency, it is used as a currency, so what the bible say about a currency,
So the bible says the same as for the other currencies.
we have to be faithful in our deeds in any matter and in using any currency, and while doing any deal, so there will be no any sin counted about us.

[MaxTax]

It is a currency, it is used as a currency, so what the bible say about a currency,
So the bible says the same as for the other currencies.
we have to be faithful in our deeds in any matter and in using any currency, and while doing any deal, so there will be no any sin counted about us.

The bible has no importance for bitcoin, since we humans use it for trading etc.
For a human being to be good, he/she should act good, don't hurt others, become corrupt etc.

Amen!

[commandrix]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

The Ten Commandments is completely irrelevant to the ownership of Bitcoin (and vice versa). It was written by people who had never seen a computer in their lives, for people who were so primitive that they thought a few plagues that happened right on top of one another was the work of a god. If you steal Bitcoin or kill for it, sure, you'd be violating a couple of commandments right there, but the existence of Bitcoin itself does not go against the Bible.

[Amadues]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

probably something about "property" likewise to help people and don't waste money.
but meanwhile btc is more "bible good" then classic cash, because there is a "democratic" power inside itself.

[cluit]

Religion and currency should not be related in any aspect. Currency like bitcoin is the mode of payment and any religion is okay with it as long as you are using it in a legal way.

[Yakamoto]

Religion and currency should not be related in any aspect. Currency like bitcoin is the mode of payment and any religion is okay with it as long as you are using it in a legal way.

I agree, the relation between Bitcoin and religion should be like the separation between the Church and the State, neither should cross into the other and each should be left to its own devices.

Each serves its own purpose, there is no need to unnecessarily intertwine the two.

[naidray]

Some Bible prophecy advocates think Bitcoin — a form of digital currency — could become the "Mark of the Beast" mentioned in the New Testament's Book of Revelation.

[bob123]

nobody cares about your bronze age redeemer cult

This.

[Mickeyb]

Wow, someone just necro-bumped this bullshit. Good luck with that 2 cents you got from it mate

PS, oddly satisfying to post this even though I'm possibly making a sig-spam post as well, but fuck it. Theres way too much of it on the forum already for me to be self-conscious

[arlene05973]

Ok, is it a sinful act if, i decide to purchase a bible for a friend or for personal with bitcoins?

[ebliever]

Some Bible prophecy advocates think Bitcoin — a form of digital currency — could become the "Mark of the Beast" mentioned in the New Testament's Book of Revelation.

Given that bitcoin is designed to be the opposite - a tool for freedom rather than centralization - that doesn't make very much sense. But I've never actually seen such an opinion expressed - does anyone have any evidence that anyone remotely familiar with bitcoin has taken such a stand?

[ebliever]

Ok, is it a sinful act if, i decide to purchase a bible for a friend or for personal with bitcoins?

Why would you imagine that it is a problem?

Is it sinful to buy something with cash? Credit card? Check? Paypal? Salt? Sea shells?

[tobacco123]

Bible talked about wealth and money many times. For example, in Ecclesiastes 5:8-20, the author (most likely King Solomon) explained what wealth and money is.

"Whoever loves money never has enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income. This too is meaningless." (Ecclesiastes 5:10)

[7788bitcoin]

Ok, is it a sinful act if, i decide to purchase a bible for a friend or for personal with bitcoins?

The short answer is no. Bitcoin is just like money. The money itself is not evil- it is the LOVE (greed) for money which is evil.

I do like to read the book version of bible, but I usually use the bible App which is more convenience when I am commuting on train.

[romero121]

Each and every happening in the world is described in the bible. I expect in some versus it might be described. If we get the exact verse written for cryptcurrencies  we can predict how long will the bitcoin survive.

[Kprawn]

Ok, is it a sinful act if, i decide to purchase a bible for a friend or for personal with bitcoins?

The short answer is no. Bitcoin is just like money. The money itself is not evil- it is the LOVE (greed) for money which is evil.

I do like to read the book version of bible, but I usually use the bible App which is more convenience when I am commuting on train.

My father always said, Keep 3 things separate from each other.. Religion / Politics / Money .... When you bring these things together, things will always get heated. No matter what religion you have,

you should not let money rule your life. People should concentrate on working hard and playing even harder.... We only have one life, and we should enjoy it and make it enjoyable and good for other

people too. In my life, good always triumphed over bad.

[c789]

Some Bible prophecy advocates think Bitcoin — a form of digital currency — could become the "Mark of the Beast" mentioned in the New Testament's Book of Revelation.

Given that bitcoin is designed to be the opposite - a tool for freedom rather than centralization - that doesn't make very much sense. But I've never actually seen such an opinion expressed - does anyone have any evidence that anyone remotely familiar with bitcoin has taken such a stand?

Revelation 13:16-17 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Unless it becomes mandatory for everyone to have a Bitcoin code in their right hand or forehead, then Bitcoin is not the mark of the beast.

That being said, some governments have been and are continuing to attempt to ban cash:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2015/05/28/farewell-to-cash/#7531c7e47927

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/governments-of-the-world-are-coming-for-your-cash/

Even the attempt to ban cash should cause voters to demand that the officials contemplating this excessive level of control be removed from office. I'm posting this to help make you aware so you can do something about it. If you know of any politician attempting to ban cash, call and write them and demand that they stop. If they don't, vote in someone who cares about your privacy (meaning they have an established record of standing up to government intrusion...not many of those types, so support them when you find them). I want to emphasize the established record of fighting government intrusion. Pres. O said he would have the most transparent administration ever. In reality, he has had one of the least transparent administrations. Look at what a politician does, not what they say. That's the key.

[Windpower]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

Lol. It's good that I own a Samsung then. I really couldn't care whether the bible likes bitcoin or not.

[QuestionAuthority]

Yes - I think that's the 7th commandment after the one about owning a Kindle.

God wasn't keen on iPhones either.  Straight to hell if you own one.

Lol. It's good that I own a Samsung then. I really couldn't care whether the bible likes bitcoin or not.

You can get back in his good graces if you hang out with prostitutes named Mary. Jesus had a penchant for whores. Extra points if her last name is Magdalene.

[RussianRaibow]

Hosea 12:7
The merchant uses dishonest scales and loves to defraud.

Proverbs 20:23
The LORD detests differing weights, and dishonest scales do not please him.

What about the command "Thou shalt not steal?"  Bitcoin keeps governments from stealing money from it's citizens, by not being able to print more and inflate the value.  Bitcoin is also impossible to counterfeit, keeping commerce honest.  It seems like if anything, the Bible would be for bitcoin.

[EdenHazard]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

what question is this?? i'm sure all religion doesn't have any rules for technology,and of course,they dont have rule about bitcoin,they just make sure what you get is what deserve for you.

[avikz]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

[c789]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

Someone could just as easily say that you should be kicked out of here for your intolerance of other people's beliefs. See the irony?

[avikz]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

Someone could just as easily say that you should be kicked out of here for your intolerance of other people's beliefs. See the irony?

That's the irony of fate dude!!

Religion divides people and I think religion should be restricted to temples and churches. In today's world, religion is obsolete. We don't need any more anarchists in this world. It's better to be a non religious person than to find religion in everything.
 

[c789]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

Someone could just as easily say that you should be kicked out of here for your intolerance of other people's beliefs. See the irony?

That's the irony of fate dude!!

Religion divides people and I think religion should be restricted to temples and churches. In today's world, religion is obsolete. We don't need any more anarchists in this world. It's better to be a non religious person than to find religion in everything.
 

Most of the world is religious. If you're not, that's cool, but just realize that most people are and that to say things like if people don't believe the way you do, they should be banned <--- that is the more stone-aged approach. In my opinion, of course

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

Someone could just as easily say that you should be kicked out of here for your intolerance of other people's beliefs. See the irony?

That's the irony of fate dude!!

Religion divides people and I think religion should be restricted to temples and churches. In today's world, religion is obsolete. We don't need any more anarchists in this world. It's better to be a non religious person than to find religion in everything.
 

I personally think all world religions are fabrications created to enslave populations into a government sanctioned self control (in God we trust). Without religion governments would no longer be capable of controlling their populations. But that doesn't mean you don't need to take religion into account when determining the way individuals will react to something. Just the opposite, religion is so ingrained into society it becomes a leading variable to discuss in order to determine how something is accepted or rejected.

[avikz]

Well said QuestionAuthority.

In God we trust! But I trust John Lennon.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

If we all can think like him, we can achieve world peace. But no, religion is creating disputes. hence I don't need that, I can live without believing in a god made by humans for their own benefits.

[doublemore]

If we all can think like him, we can achieve world peace. But no, religion is creating disputes. hence I don't need that, I can live without believing in a god made by humans for their own benefits.

We need tools like bitcoin so everyone has an equal opportunity to compete. With a few small groups controlling the earths resources we will always have large scale problems and no balance.  Bitcoin is not enough and only the beginning.  We need more monopoly breaking inventions.

[c789]

Well said QuestionAuthority.

In God we trust! But I trust John Lennon.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

If we all can think like him, we can achieve world peace. But no, religion is creating disputes. hence I don't need that, I can live without believing in a god made by humans for their own benefits.

It's a false argument to say that if there was no religion, there would be world peace. History is full of examples of people who were the same religion (meaning religion was not a factor) but still had wars. People will always have disagreements: democrat vs. republican vs. independent, etc. There will shortages of food, water, materials, etc., and these shortages have and will continue to lead to wars.

Like I said in my last post: if you're not religious, that's cool. And if you are, that's cool too. It's when we start demanding that other people believe like us or else...that's where the problems lie.

[prashant23]

Love Thy Bitcoin

[RodeoX]

The Bible says that you must give your bitcoins to me or risk eternal damnation. It's somewhere in the middle. 
 

[DimensionZ]

I don't think religions are instilled by the governments to control their populations. People from ancient times believed there was a higher power in search of hope for themselves during hardships like war, drought, cataclysms. And as the Bible says we shall not steal the Bitcoins of our friends  

[jbreher]

I don't understand why some people include everything in to religion???

Dude, you want to make money, you are welcome here. But if you just want to understand the relation between religion and making money, I would love to kick you out from here because you are polluting the forum.

Keep religion aside and take part in any constructive discussion. But don't try to bring some stone aged theory in to this forum.

I don't believe in A Supreme Being, but I find your militant yet impotent intolerance to be simply adorable.

[cjmoles]

Without getting into religion proper, I don't think that those who authored the Bible could even imagine the possibility of Bitcoin when they wrote the book.  So, I don't think that one will find any concrete answers to the question. But, I do believe that if one understands the guiding principles of their specific religion, then they could ascertain the implications of any particular practice on a personal level. It's important for one to understand their own religion and they should be cautious when asking others what to believe about it.

[tobacco123]

Bitcoin is just like money. The money itself is not evil but the greed for money which is evil.

[bitbunnny]

The Bible itself doesn't define the Bitcoin or the attitude to.it but the religion in.general probably treats it as any othet material thing or money - greed for it is a sin.

[GamingBro]

Oh.. Peple trying promoute religion everywhere. Don't know why people can't understand that religion it's not everything and also people must stop linking religion with everything too.

[Ulloa]

The Bible itself doesn't define the Bitcoin or the attitude to.it but the religion in.general probably treats it as any othet material thing or money - greed for it is a sin.

I suppose you are right. It would be really intriging if bitcoin was mentioned by name. Conspiracy theory lovers would like that.
However i think bitcoin, gold and money in general are equal to greed and sin.

[QuestionAuthority]

The Bible itself doesn't define the Bitcoin or the attitude to.it but the religion in.general probably treats it as any othet material thing or money - greed for it is a sin.

I suppose you are right. It would be really intriging if bitcoin was mentioned by name. Conspiracy theory lovers would like that.
However i think bitcoin, gold and money in general are equal to greed and sin.

They did mention Bitcoin in the bible. I think it's in the book of Cox. That book wasn't found in a cave written on papyrus, it was found in the desert near Las Vegas and written on cocktail napkins. It is written that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for beastality, Bitcoin and homosexuality. King Birsha used to pay for the sheep he sodomised with Bitcoin.

[idev]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Re-check the ten commandments, that will give you the answer or better still head down to your local church and ask the priest in person.
He's bound to know.

[vendetahome]

Bitcoin is just like money. The money itself is not evil but the greed for money which is evil.

thats true, bitcoin is money and it makes people greedy sometimes what is considered as a bad thing in the bible as far as i know, though those are just my ideas

i think that bitcoin will never be a bad thing because it will have only benefits on people as the price is not dependent on the governments or banks thus people can do with it anything they want

[BitChick]

Without getting into religion proper, I don't think that those who authored the Bible could even imagine the possibility of Bitcoin when they wrote the book.  So, I don't think that one will find any concrete answers to the question.

In the book of Revelation (Revelation 13:17) John prophecies that a mark will be put on everyone to buy or sell.  I am sure that was a very foreign idea to John when he was shown that and wrote that.  Tracking people is very much a modern idea.  Bitcoin is hard to track so a mark would be desirable by governments if use became widespread.

[Junko]

The Bible says, "Hodl your Bitcoins, for the Bitcoiners shall inherit the earth."  
  
       - Satoshi's Letter To The Romans: Chapter 3, Verse 6

[BitcoinBlackjack]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

[btvGainer]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

Hope someone doesn't get this idea from you and published a new version of Bible wherein bitcoin is mentioned and is unethical .I read somewhere in this forum that Vatican has started accepting bitcoin so chances of Bible condemning it are less

[Akupuniard]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

It's just a joke dude, dumb people trying to find hidden sens on old book and link this shit with bitcoin. Looks so fun and stupid.

[uname]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

yeah i was not there advanced technologies. they do not know about the internet. especially online currency.
so in the bible is certainly no currency online. or you can look for the alternative currency?

[isildur1]

anyone else find it weird that the only time in the bible when jesus was pissed off was when he met a banker?

[BitChick]

anyone else find it weird that the only time in the bible when jesus was pissed off was when he met a banker?

Another reason to love Jesus my friends.  

(He told off the pompous religious leaders too:  Hence His crucifixion)

[relq]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

Even bitcoin is not exist on that day. It's non sense to see what the bible say about bitcoin. But i think online currencies is same like fiat, so bitcoin is okay for the bibble imo.

[Indrawan77]

For me bitcoin or money its just the same, however the way you used that is all that matters, if you used bitcoin or money to help people, i think the bible will agree but if you used it for evil then you violated the bible
For me Its just that simple...

[QuestionAuthority]

anyone else find it weird that the only time in the bible when jesus was pissed off was when he met a banker?

Another reason to love Jesus my friends.  

(He told off the pompous religious leaders too:  Hence His crucifixion)

I don't trust CNN to relay the news correctly and they tape their news. I'm sure not going to trust news relayed by word of mouth for hundreds of years by middle eastern Bedouin cave people.

[trashman43]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!

devil's advocate: many ideas presented in the Bible or similar religious texts are not self-explanatory. sometimes, ideas/judgments are abstract, hence why different branches and different priests will have different opinions on the relevant "laws" that followers are subject to.

some people think bitcoin is the "Mark of the Beast" mentioned in the New Testament's Book of Revelation.

[KennyR]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

Truly bible is the oldest book, as said our bitcoin hasn't existed. The best part you can see in bible is nothing gets indicated directly, it gets in some other form. I believe surely something will be there in bible about bitcoin. We need to find it for our goodness.

[choppork]

I don't think Bitcoin already exists on the time that they wrote the Bible. It will be so impressive if the bible mentioned 'bitcoin' somewhere, because that basically means that they had predicted this cryptocurrency thousand years ago.

[dearbesz]

 What does the bible say about Bitcoin?

there's so such things in the bible mention about Bitcoin.
only things i know is that in the last generation there will be one
currency to be use all over the world.

[Nevis]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

haha. The bible said nothing about bitcoin, people just makes bitcoin unrelated bibble on bitcoin, hihi

[Nevis]

The bible was first published when we didn't even have electricity. There is no way that it could have spoken about any form of digital currency!
However I guess you can analyze what it says about currencies, monies and personal possessions and compare to that.

It's just a joke dude, dumb people trying to find hidden sens on old book and link this shit with bitcoin. Looks so fun and stupid.

haha. you're right bro, this is a joke, we all know that no written bibble, whatever they do not find bitcoin during the first bibble

[Nevis]

The Bible says, "Hodl your Bitcoins, for the Bitcoiners shall inherit the earth."  
  
       - Satoshi's Letter To The Romans: Chapter 3, Verse 6

hahaha. You are joking right bro. hahaha I do not have to read bibble topic with bitcoin, haha, by the way, I laugh really laugh at jokes you. 😂😂😂 nice job bro

[bitbunnny]

Bible is not a law to regulate anything, although people often consider it on that way. Of course that the Bible couldn't say anything about the Bitcoin but you should see that in question like Bible has the attitude towards money and other material things

[Snorek]

I don't know if Op posted this for the lulz and only wanted to troll the community. Or he really is asking this question and expect to receive definite answer.
However, I can tell one general rule you should always follow, before anything else - use your brain, common sense and your conscience.
Although I have huge respect for the Bible, especially New Testament. But this book not something we should blindly follow without questioning.

Bitcoin=money so you can interpret all biblical parables in this context. And follow it if you are ultra religious.

[xavier77]

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

ohhhh dat ass!
rofl amazing.
Who even cares, gambling is no sin.

[maudevang]

Lol do you guy really think that the bitcoin is mentioned in the bible i dont think that is true. And if it does i think the bible would not accept bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies.

[FabioDelcatto]

what does the bible say about the bitcoin lol i never heard about this before does the bible say something about cryptocurrencies or specific about the bitcoin i dont think that can be true.

[Enotche]

What is the difference in what is written in the book? The book that is the authority? Not your experiences, opinions, research, and just the letters on pieces of paper?
Nothing in the Bible does not say about Bitcoin, it is not necessary to compare the dinosaurs and space shuttles. In the end, Bitcoin is a currency and what the Bible says about money?

[groll]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

It is not against the ten commandments to own bitcoins, it is like saying having money is a capital sin. Moreover bitcoins just like any other currencies should be used well which is not going against the ten commandments. If it is used without any moral consideration then it becomes an instrument of evil. Bitcoin in itself is not evil but what makes it evil is in how the use make use of it.

[dearbesz1219]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

can you give the exact verse in the Bible that Bitcoins is againts the law of ten commandment?
i'm just wondering how it happens.  thanks

[QuestionAuthority]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

can you give the exact verse in the Bible that Bitcoins is againts the law of ten commandment?
i'm just wondering how it happens.  thanks

Job 9,18

Thou shalt not own MP3 players, microwaves, a penis fashioned from silicon, or Bitcoin. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors penis fashioned from silicon or own music made by eminem or the artist formerly known as gay nigger.

[Bit_Happy]

The Bible says nothing about Bitcoin. It would be a hell of a lot more impressive if it did.

LOL nothing in this thread will ever top this.

Good one that is funny.  

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
What does the bible say about Bitcoin?
The Bible says you MUST give (most of) them to poor people:
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." ~Matthew 19:24

Money cannot function as money, i.e., as a medium of exchange, unless it is backed by actual, unconsumed goods. ~Ayn Rand  

[hurain]

being muslim i have no idea about bible.

[Hugroll]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

lol i doubt the ten commandments ever expected the world to have cryptocurrencies. just do what u feel is right. if you enjoy using bitcoin you shouldnt look for things that get in your way.

[roohafza]

i have no such knowledge about bible.

[Neptunium]

How is this even a thread.

[MyIdeas]

bitcoin is a currency, so for bitcoin bible will have the same orders which will have in it for money.

[AgentofCoin]

Is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

No, but it is against the first commandments to love bitcoin more than God.

For you Christians out there, it is quite clear that hodling will lead to damnation.
James 5:3 - "Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against
you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days."

[Bitware]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

God loves Bitcoin, because there is no Usury within Bitcoin...

https://www.openbible.info/topics/usury

Rest assured that you are well within the confines of Holy Scripture by using Bitcoin.

Debt based fiat currency is another matter entirely...

[AgentofCoin]

is it against the ten commandments to own bitcoin?

God loves Bitcoin...

Luke 18:22-24

"When Jesus heard this, he said to [the man with many bitcoins], “You still lack one thing.
Sell [all the coins you control] and give [it] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come,
follow me.” When [the man] heard this, he became very sad, because he was very wealthy [with bitcoins].
Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the [bitcoin hodlers] to enter the kingdom of God!"

[jwinterm]

The ten crypto commandments:

Rule nombre uno: never let no one know
how much, dough you hold, cause you know
The cheddar breed jealousy 'specially
if that man fucked up, get your ass stuck up

Number two: never let em know your next move
Don't you know bit boys move in silence or violence
Take it from your highness (uh-huh)
I done squeezed mad clips at these cats for they bricks and chips

Number three: never trust no-bo-dy
Your moms'll set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodie to mask up, shit, for that fast buck
she be layin in the bushes to light that ass up

Number four: know you heard this before
Never buy high, or sell your whole supply

Number five: never sell no coins where you rest at
I don't care if they want btc, tell em flee

Number six: that god damn credit, dead it
You think a cryptohead payin you back, shit forget it

Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two dicks and no bitch
Find yourself in serious shit

Number eight: never keep no private keys on you
Them cats that squeeze your guns can hold jobs too

Number nine shoulda been number one to me
If you ain't gettin bags stay the fuck from police (uh-huh)
If niggaz think you snitchin ain't tryin listen
They be sittin in your kitchen, waitin to start hittin

Number ten: a strong word called consignment
Strictly for live men, not for freshmen
If you ain't got the clientele say hell no
Cause they gon want they money rain sleet hail snow

Follow these rules you'll have mad bread to break up
If not, twenty-four years, on the wake up
Slug hit your temple, watch your frame shake up
Caretaker did your makeup, when you pass
Your girl fucked my man Jake up, heard in three weeks
she sniffed a whole half of cake up
Heard she suck a good dick, and can hook a steak up
Gotta go gotta go, more pasta bake up, word up, uhh

[darkagentx]

Lol do you guy really think that the bitcoin is mentioned in the bible i dont think that is true. And if it does i think the bible would not accept bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies.

Some People will always try to interpret things from the Bible that agrees to their own world of reality and expectations.

[AgentofCoin]

Lol do you guy really think that the bitcoin is mentioned in the bible i dont think that is true. And if it does i think the bible would not accept bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies.

Some People will always try to interpret things from the Bible that agrees to their own world of reality and expectations.

LMFTFY
Some people will always try to interpret things from everything, so that it agrees with their own view of reality and expectations.


Also somewhere in the Bible, I'm pretty sure Jesus said Signature Campaigners will be thrown into Tartarus.

[Enotche]

I found a bit of delirium:

"Finger-like, electronic, virtual money, in the work since 2009.

New time, new technologies, new words have a double meaning. Virtual - means the actual, real, imaginary. Bitcoin - secret money, money helpers.

There are many articles on the history and computer currency growth. Our question:
- What does the Bible say? What examples leads it on this issue?

Egypt, Pharaoh's dreams, Joseph, the new king, the liberator Moses. For each name is written a lot of books, songs composed. One conclusion. Humanity has crossed the line of what is permitted everything, came the fullness of time and the courts of God accomplished on the ground. Great miracles, signs terrible God's people saved, snatched from the midst of the slave, evil. Name of the Lord - one, highly glorified in all the earth.
End of Babylon. Fingers hand man wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaster of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the hand that wrote.

Much of today we have inherited from our ancestors. This quadrangles, these clay tablets of ancient Egyptians, and our fingers are writing, trying to compensate for the human pride and loneliness.
Babel wall - a huge computer a mysterious past - it fingers of the human hand have signed a death sentence golden-empire. That same night, the king of the Chaldeans, was killed, and his kingdom took another king.
Judea. '' Jesus stooped down, with the finger wrote on the ground. ''
Fingers Savior's hands this time to cancel the death of the wicked time.

Bitcoin is money - secret writing, freedom and independence.
Bitcoin - not that other, as the mark of the beast.
Bitcoin - a business card of a king and ruler.

The wisdom of modern dangerous only in that it is given to other, crafty hands. Perfect knowledge and technology frightening only to those that perform exactly the horror of the Bible prophetic words not for good but for evil and fallen passionately wicked mankind." http://www.yslish.com/mystery/4603-bitcoin.html

[Hide_ip112]

bitcoin is a currency, so for bitcoin bible will have the same orders which will have in it for money.

True, that bitcoin is not prohibited in the Al-kitab. for bitcoin is one currency that could be used by anyone or can be called as a means of Exchange. Then it is no problem for us using bitcoin as currency, which is not allowed is to do things that were forbidden by our religion and our religious Scriptures

[CasioK]

For me bitcoin or money its just the same, however the way you used that is all that matters, if you used bitcoin or money to help people, i think the bible will agree but if you used it for evil then you violated the bible
For me Its just that simple...

That is the most rational, I also could think of,  it depends from daily basis. However how fascinating to read bible if it mentioned bitcoins in some concrete perspective.