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May 19, 2015, 09:19:06 PM |
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You guys realize a game isn't actually provably fair unless you change the seed everytime?
What most likely is happening is that Nitrogen is giving you rigged seeds (which will verify as "fair" later) when you don't change your client seed. These rigged seeds give you 14,15,16 while the dealer gets 20,21.
That is why Nitrogen sucks, they are scammers but with this theres no way to 100% prove its validity except that people lose way more often than they should with Nitrogen's blackjack.
That actually might be a very valid way they might be able to take advantage of it. Actually very likely, considering that such things do not happen on Dice, as the player has many choices unlike on BJ where its the standard play and just had to beat the dealer.
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May 19, 2015, 09:22:25 PM |
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You guys realize a game isn't actually provably fair unless you change the seed everytime?
What most likely is happening is that Nitrogen is giving you rigged seeds (which will verify as "fair" later) when you don't change your client seed. These rigged seeds give you 14,15,16 while the dealer gets 20,21.
That is why Nitrogen sucks, they are scammers but with this theres no way to 100% prove its validity except that people lose way more often than they should with Nitrogen's blackjack.
That actually might be a very valid way they might be able to take advantage of it. Actually very likely, considering that such things do not happen on Dice, as the player has many choices unlike on BJ where its the standard play and just had to beat the dealer. Any game that is provably fair can be rigged. The only way to get something 100% fair with no way of being cheated is to change the client seed EVERY TIME. In dice if you always pick high for example, the server could produce you seeds that always draw low numbers.
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nikona
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May 19, 2015, 09:25:45 PM |
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You guys realize a game isn't actually provably fair unless you change the seed everytime?
What most likely is happening is that Nitrogen is giving you rigged seeds (which will verify as "fair" later) when you don't change your client seed. These rigged seeds give you 14,15,16 while the dealer gets 20,21.
That is why Nitrogen sucks, they are scammers but with this theres no way to 100% prove its validity except that people lose way more often than they should with Nitrogen's blackjack.
That actually might be a very valid way they might be able to take advantage of it. Actually very likely, considering that such things do not happen on Dice, as the player has many choices unlike on BJ where its the standard play and just had to beat the dealer. Any game that is provably fair can be rigged. The only way to get something 100% fair with no way of being cheated is to change the client seed EVERY TIME. In dice if you always pick high for example, the server could produce you seeds that always draw low numbers. Yes, I have read about that before that site owners changing your seed which would cause your betting style to lose on it. But since most of the dice sites do not change the seeds unless you want them to, it is hard for them to implement it. But if you are someone who is changing their seeds every now and then, then there is definitely a possibility for that. I guess the only way around would be to remember to change your client seed everytime you change the seed.
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May 19, 2015, 09:36:44 PM |
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Does your sportsbook have live sports betting ? sorry for asking this ,never looked into yours sites live betting
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May 19, 2015, 09:39:38 PM |
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Does your sportsbook have live sports betting ? sorry for asking this ,never looked into yours sites live betting
Hey Joca, Unfortunately we don't have live betting right now, but this is something we've been testing, and we're definitely looking forward to implementing this year! Thanks, Jenny
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May 19, 2015, 09:41:34 PM |
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Does your sportsbook have live sports betting ? sorry for asking this ,never looked into yours sites live betting
Hey Joca, Unfortunately we don't have live betting right now, but this is something we've been testing, and we're definitely looking forward to implementing this year! Thanks, Jenny Great,hoping you add this to your site,that would take your sites sportsbook to the next level you got good odds and betting games as well
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May 20, 2015, 12:52:08 AM |
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hello nitrogensports, i've made some bet yesterday and just wanna ask what mean of <> push so they cancel that match or ......
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May 20, 2015, 01:04:43 AM |
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hello nitrogensports, i've made some bet yesterday and just wanna ask what mean of <> push so they cancel that match or ...... Push means tie.
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May 20, 2015, 01:19:15 AM |
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hello nitrogensports, i've made some bet yesterday and just wanna ask what mean of <> push so they cancel that match or ...... Hey Rayhan! A 'push' means that the match ended in a draw. In the event of a draw, you should receive back what you risked on the bet. If you have any additional questions on this, feel free to reach out to our support team - support@nitrogensports.eu - They're available 24/7 and would be happy to help! Happy betting! Calvin
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May 20, 2015, 10:11:57 PM |
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Tonight's NBA Playoff Action - Game 1 of the Eastern Conference NBA Finals! Tonight's the first match up between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Atlanta Hawks for the Eastern Conference Finals!! Can the Hawks' offense expose the Cavs' defense? And how much help will LeBron get? Place your bets now, the game starts soon!
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May 21, 2015, 02:25:28 AM |
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is rng totally random or pseudo random?
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nikona
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May 21, 2015, 07:22:29 AM |
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is rng totally random or pseudo random?
What part ? Poker or Blackjack ? There has been a long discussion about Blackjack on the previous page already.
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May 21, 2015, 05:05:22 PM |
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is rng totally random or pseudo random?
Hey Xiaoxiao! At Nitrogen, we use a standard Mersenne Twister for RNG and Fisher-Yates shuffle for shuffling cards in both our poker and blackjack. We also provide provably fair software which enables each user to independently verify the authenticity of every automated shuffle in our blackjack. If you'd like to learn more about Nitrogen's shuffling procedure or how you can verify the fairness of your black jack hands, please read our step-by-step guide. If you have any additional questions, feel free to PM me or contact our support team! Happy betting! Calvin
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May 21, 2015, 05:25:36 PM |
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hello nitrogensports, i've made some bet yesterday and just wanna ask what mean of <> push so they cancel that match or ...... Hey Rayhan! A 'push' means that the match ended in a draw. In the event of a draw, you should receive back what you risked on the bet. If you have any additional questions on this, feel free to reach out to our support team - support@nitrogensports.eu - They're available 24/7 and would be happy to help! Happy betting! Calvin ahhh i see I just knew if we could draw in sports betting .. haha I think we can only win and lose when the game does not reach over 2 goal then we lost, and when matches over two goals then we win ...
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May 21, 2015, 06:55:53 PM |
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pretty upset because I tried betting 1 bitcoin on SF Giants last night +118 and betslips were not working. very frustrating for me as the bet would have been a winner. My username I use on Nitrogen is housecloud if there's anything that can be done. Please look into it and see how many times I was clicking on SF Giants betslip if possible. I'm not one to generally have issues with sportsbooks, but if you look at this problem from a players perspective it is very very frustrating.
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nikona
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May 21, 2015, 07:00:44 PM |
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pretty upset because I tried betting 1 bitcoin on SF Giants last night +118 and betslips were not working. very frustrating for me as the bet would have been a winner. My username I use on Nitrogen is housecloud if there's anything that can be done. Please look into it and see how many times I was clicking on SF Giants betslip if possible. I'm not one to generally have issues with sportsbooks, but if you look at this problem from a players perspective it is very very frustrating.
I have never had problems betting on games like that. Must have been a network problem from your side. This sort of problem might happen if you are live betting, which isn't there yet on Nitrogen.
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May 21, 2015, 07:13:38 PM |
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pretty upset because I tried betting 1 bitcoin on SF Giants last night +118 and betslips were not working. very frustrating for me as the bet would have been a winner. My username I use on Nitrogen is housecloud if there's anything that can be done. Please look into it and see how many times I was clicking on SF Giants betslip if possible. I'm not one to generally have issues with sportsbooks, but if you look at this problem from a players perspective it is very very frustrating.
I have never had problems betting on games like that. Must have been a network problem from your side. This sort of problem might happen if you are live betting, which isn't there yet on Nitrogen. unfortunately it was a problem on the nitrogen end.. everyone in the chat was complaining about it as well.
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May 21, 2015, 07:32:48 PM |
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pretty upset because I tried betting 1 bitcoin on SF Giants last night +118 and betslips were not working. very frustrating for me as the bet would have been a winner. My username I use on Nitrogen is housecloud if there's anything that can be done. Please look into it and see how many times I was clicking on SF Giants betslip if possible. I'm not one to generally have issues with sportsbooks, but if you look at this problem from a players perspective it is very very frustrating.
I have never had problems betting on games like that. Must have been a network problem from your side. This sort of problem might happen if you are live betting, which isn't there yet on Nitrogen. For the past week it seems like at least once a day there is some sort of major network problem and the "starting soon" and betslips go down for everyone.
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May 21, 2015, 08:14:33 PM |
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pretty upset because I tried betting 1 bitcoin on SF Giants last night +118 and betslips were not working. very frustrating for me as the bet would have been a winner. My username I use on Nitrogen is housecloud if there's anything that can be done. Please look into it and see how many times I was clicking on SF Giants betslip if possible. I'm not one to generally have issues with sportsbooks, but if you look at this problem from a players perspective it is very very frustrating.
Hi Housecloud, I'm sorry to hear about your frustrations. We understand that there was an outage of service yesterday evening which affected some users' ability to place wagers for a short period of time. Our tech team was made aware of the issues immediately and sorted out a fix as soon as possible. While it is understandably a frustrating situation, we cannot compensate users for a general site outage or for wagers that would have potentially been made. Until a bet has been place and confirmed by a user, and the game played, there is no way of knowing if a bet would be a win or a loss. I realize that this is not ideal for your situation and I do apologize for any inconvenience caused by this situation. Thanks for your understanding, Calvin
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May 21, 2015, 09:56:20 PM |
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Dota 2 - Canada Cup Grand Finals!! We're just hours away from crowning a new Dota 2 Canada Cup champ. Boreal eSports and the North American Rejects are scheduled to battle it out at 6:40pm ET. Be sure to have your betslips ready!Only at
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