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December 20, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
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I would be extremely interested in any evidence you have of "VMC is paying people with promises of discounts and early delivery for defending them".
I should have hyperlinked, but that search button is sooo far away.  Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg3893935#msg3893935

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The fact that their videos/images were photographed in Bulgaria, along with their bank wire transfer info was very much news to me, and added to my less substantial concerns. But I don't follow very closely. If thats all been neatly explained, please toss over a link.

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December 20, 2013, 08:11:28 PM
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I would be extremely interested in any evidence you have of "VMC is paying people with promises of discounts and early delivery for defending them".
I should have hyperlinked, but that search button is sooo far away.  Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg3893935#msg3893935

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If there is any please bring it forward. Right now it seems to be people bringing up old issues that have
The fact that their videos/images were photographed in Bulgaria, along with their bank wire transfer info was very much news to me, and added to my less substantial concerns. But I don't follow very closely. If thats all been neatly explained, please toss over a link.

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You have two companies mixed up,

That is AMT who I believe only ships Bitfury gear on boards they designed themselves.

VMC/AMC/ActM is ActiveMining https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.0

Glad we cleared this up!
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December 20, 2013, 11:26:29 PM
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You have two companies mixed up,
Indeed, AMC vs AMT. Erp!
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December 27, 2013, 11:02:13 PM
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Zte-ASIC scam
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387168.0;topicseen
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December 29, 2013, 04:10:59 AM
Last edit: December 29, 2013, 06:18:43 AM by Anddos
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Mods Please make this thread a sticky so it remains on the top of page 1

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January 05, 2014, 08:47:01 AM
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new year new dodges?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392865.msg4233874#msg4233874
http://www.bitcominers.com/

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January 05, 2014, 08:49:48 AM
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moar scum?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=398394.msg4304272#msg4304272
http://www.bitcoinmininglab.com/

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January 06, 2014, 06:58:46 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361692.msg4337471#msg4337471

a scammy fake reseller of blackarrow gear

http://www.blackarroweurope.com/home/8-prospero-x-1-100ghashsecond-reseller.html

confirmed by ba matt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg4329281#msg4329281

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January 06, 2014, 08:37:25 AM
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January 06, 2014, 09:13:00 AM
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Why is BFL not on this list?
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January 06, 2014, 10:10:41 AM
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BFL delivered before.. just late. haha
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January 06, 2014, 10:23:34 AM
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BFL delivered before.. just late. haha

How they handled refunds was borderline scammy in my opinion. And being 1 year late is not acceptable for any preorder.
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January 06, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
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I feel HashFast belongs on that list..
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January 06, 2014, 11:05:28 AM
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well, soon enough many companies will be in that list. late delivery seems way too common.
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January 06, 2014, 06:22:27 PM
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How come alpha-t.net isnt on the list? Is it only for bitcoin mining hardware?


    Website registered less than 8 months ago
    An 6U rack weighs approx. 12kg - EMPTY. Yet... the 5 x Viper weighs 6kg... approx.
    No name mentioned on website, except partner. No CEO. No engineer-named, albeit the fact that this must be quite a daunting undertaking.
    Picture of company shows banner, they cut-off the door, windows, street... "unwanted" signs?
    So far in the testing of the unit, and they can't show a decent enclosure?
    Website has 90% focus on sell, 2% on product, 8% the rest.
    If you outsource the CHIP-design, your focus must be marketing, so what are the "IT"-people doing? CPU development is a VERY difficult undertaking, so it won't do with people with MS-certifications, but very specialized labs.
    If the product is not yet finnished, how do they know the price now?
    If the product IS finnished, with 70% CM, it would be much more profitable to actually mine yourself because every machine would pay its own cost (with 25USD/LTC and DIFF = 3200) in 20 days or less.
    They know people will scrutinize, why on earth not show yourself + staff with picture, names etc? ANY person? ANY name? ANY photo?
    If you want to look like a scam, then it would look like this. And based on ockhams razor... this is then a scam.
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January 06, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
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How come alpha-t.net isnt on the list? Is it only for bitcoin mining hardware?


    Website registered less than 8 months ago
    An 6U rack weighs approx. 12kg - EMPTY. Yet... the 5 x Viper weighs 6kg... approx.
    No name mentioned on website, except partner. No CEO. No engineer-named, albeit the fact that this must be quite a daunting undertaking.
    Picture of company shows banner, they cut-off the door, windows, street... "unwanted" signs?
    So far in the testing of the unit, and they can't show a decent enclosure?
    Website has 90% focus on sell, 2% on product, 8% the rest.
    If you outsource the CHIP-design, your focus must be marketing, so what are the "IT"-people doing? CPU development is a VERY difficult undertaking, so it won't do with people with MS-certifications, but very specialized labs.
    If the product is not yet finnished, how do they know the price now?
    If the product IS finnished, with 70% CM, it would be much more profitable to actually mine yourself because every machine would pay its own cost (with 25USD/LTC and DIFF = 3200) in 20 days or less.
    They know people will scrutinize, why on earth not show yourself + staff with picture, names etc? ANY person? ANY name? ANY photo?
    If you want to look like a scam, then it would look like this. And based on ockhams razor... this is then a scam.

No accounts filed with Companies House and they are renamed from another company that was dissolved after a year. You can order more info but you have to pay companies house for the fileings etc.

Company Details

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Name & Registered Office:
ALPHA TECHNOLOGY (INT) LTD
66 DICKENSON ROAD
MANCHESTER
ENGLAND
M14 5HF
Company No. 08483921


      
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 11/04/2013

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC):
71121 - Engineering design activities for industrial process and production
72190 - Other research and experimental development on natural sciences and engineering
Accounting Reference Date: 30/04
Last Accounts Made Up To:  (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 11/01/2015
Last Return Made Up To: 30/11/2013
Next Return Due: 28/12/2014
Mortgage: Number of charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 satisfied / 0 part satisfied )
Last Members List: 30/11/2013
Previous Names:
Date of change    Previous Name
22/07/2013    CHESHIRE TECHNOLOGY LTD
UK Establishment Details
There are no UK Establishments associated with this company.
Oversea Company Info
There are no Oversea Details associated with this company.

Name & Registered Office:
CHESHIRE TECHNOLOGY LIMITED
GLOUCESTER HOUSE
CHURCH WALK
BURGESS HILL
WEST SUSSEX
UNITED KINGDOM
RH15 9AS
Company No. 07002975


      
Status: Dissolved 25/05/2010
Date of Incorporation: 27/08/2009

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To:  (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due:
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due:
Mortgage: Number of charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 satisfied / 0 part satisfied )
Previous Names:
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
UK Establishment Details
There are no UK Establishments associated with this company.
Oversea Company Info
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January 08, 2014, 05:41:33 AM
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Another wanna be company claiming to be shipping miners now

http://hashcoins.com

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January 10, 2014, 07:44:49 AM
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I doubt there's really anything anyone can do. But I thought I'd post here to maybe shed some light on "Xtrememiners.net". First of all they've stolen over $200,000 so far.

They are clearly a fraud, and I stupidly sent them $10,000 worth of bitcoin about a month ago. I've come in contact with several other people that have been scammed, and managed to get some info on them.
contact with. They claim to be selling BTC Asic miners, but in reality they, their company, and their product do not exist. They make a good job of making them anonymous/unreachable as well.

Heres the small amount of information I have on them:

ISP: Affinity Internet (Now a subsidiary of Hostway Services)
Domain Security: Hostway Services
Web design service: Wix.com
IP: 10.60.103.211 (Blocked with a proxy) Public IP: 216.185.152.159
Main Bitcoin Wallet used to Launder funds: 18YZ4gSS8n84w9WY57nUW4UQFSQypMb7SV

I've tricked them several times into calling me, so I could bluff/scare them into giving my BTC back, or atleast shutting their website down. No dice. Both times a young woman answered the phone, and gave me a bunch of vague answers to rather probing questions (Why don't you have a VAT, Who is Mr.Berg, etc). The second time she called a few minutes later answering to a different name. I called her out on it, and she became panicky and hung up.

The information listed in their Impressum is false, and I have strong reason to believe they are based out of the U.S. based both on domain (.com/.de) Lack of business registration for Germany, and information gained through calls made to them.
I have tried getting information from Wix.com/Hostway Services/Affinity Internet, but they all say they cannot release information without a court order. I have tried taking this case to law enforcement, but no one has taken any action against these fraudsters, probably due to the murky nature of legislation regarding the currency.
If anyone could offer advice/help, I'd sincerely appreciate it, but I understand at this point I, and the other victims of the scam, pretty much just learned a $10,000 lesson in life.
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January 10, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
Last edit: January 10, 2014, 11:26:26 AM by railzand
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Man you're calm about it. I'd be hopping up and down, and willing to travel, to strangle... enough about me.
Sorry for your loss. Keep all records. Join forces with other scamees. Maybe btc antiscam lawyers will become a thing. There's surely enough loot involved.



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January 10, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
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To anyone who thinks they have found an asic bitcoin miner: sorry, but no, you 99% likely have not.

There are about a dozen known hardware providers, see this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=403459.msg4364939#msg4364939 and half of them are dishonest

otherwise all asic bitcoin miners and manufacturers are scams

edit: okay there are some providers not on either list, maybe 20 or so Chinese resellers of Avalon boards, maybe 10 known ( on this forum ) board and thumb makers, but

if you think you have found an undiscovered asic miner, no, please read here first or you will lose your money

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