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ActiveMining Official Discussion Thread

Introduction
ActiveMining is a virtual identity totally owned by the Active Mining Corporation (Belize) that represents both itself and its profits. ActiveMining's business includes cryptocoin mining and sales of self-built ASIC devices through its wholly owned subsidiary Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC).

Currently, it is expected for interested ActiveMining's public investors to hold 10,000,000 ActiveMining shares (40% of the profits), while Active Mining Corporation owner(s) shall hold 15,000,000 ActiveMining shares (60% of the profits), for a total of 25,000,000 ActiveMining virtual shares that represent 100% of the global profits of ActiveMining.

The issuing of more ActiveMining shares can be allowed in the future, as a last resort measure and after a shareholder's vote, provided there is strong economic justification, mainly on the basis of covering emergent capital needs. Existing shareholders also get the first choice for buying new shares before they are sold on the open market. The volume of new shares shall be kept at a minimum as much as possible and the pricing of them should be such that the total value of all ActiveMining's assets (tangible and intangible) per ActiveMining share does not diminish, protecting shareholders as much as possible from future dilution of value.

Public investor's protection plan
The first 10,000,000 ActiveMining shares have the privilege of getting all profits until BTC0.0025/share is paid, starting from the day when dividends begin to be paid.

How to buy shares
ActiveMining shares will be sold on BitFunder and BTCT.CO and any other exchange, following asset approval or tendered by AMC shares. Existing Active Mining Cooperative (AMC) shareholders will be entitled to tender their shares for ActiveMining shares, on a 1:1 basis and are also covered in the public investor's protection plan.

Dividend payment
The global ActiveMining's income, including mining income, hardware sales via bitcoins, other cryptocoins and fiat transferred to bitcoins, will be paid to ActiveMining shareholders proportionally, when all manufacturing, maintenance, labor costs, R&D, growth and miscellaneous expenses are deducted. The first BTC0.0025/share dividends will only be paid to the first 10,000,000 ActiveMining shares, providing public investors a priority in getting back 100% return of their investment.

Our chips in development
Generation 1: Fast-Hash. 28nm. Each chip's rated frequency is 800 MHz at 1.15V. It translates to 16,000 MH/s because it does 20 hashes per cycle. Chip requires proper handling of heat and power supply. It is expected the chip can be overclocked to 1000 MHz @ 20,000 MH/s.
eASIC Press Release

"Our existing hardware assets from AMC liquidation
  • 6 Avalon miners, currently running on BTC Guild under "Team AMC" for around 430 GH/s;
  • An order of Avalon chips from steamboat's batch #1, for 68 Klondike-16 boards, rated at 68*16*282 = 307 GH/s;

AMC owns Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) which is a manufacturer of Bitcoin Mining Machines:

Virtual Mining Website

VMC Website:

July Visitors:           10,135
August Visitors:       12,676
September Visitors: 26,894 9/19.      



VMC Sales:

2013 sales $6,311,788.33
                
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ActiveMining F.A.Q.

What is ActiveMining?
ActiveMining is the natural evolution of two previous projects: Active Mining Cooperative (creating a bitcoin mining farm) and Virtual Mining Corporation (selling bitcoin mining hardware), that are now unified under the roof of ActiveMining. Both original contract proposals were quite complex, so we decided to rip them apart and start from scratch, using the same tried and tested model of Asicminer. This allows for a much needed flexibility that is key in the bitcoin world.

Where can I buy ActiveMining shares?
Currently, there is only one way to do that:
  • You can buy ActiveMining shares directly from CryptStocks

What is the Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC)?
VMC is a subsidiary of ActiveMining that is in charge of building hardware. Think of it as a department of ActiveMining, with all its profits funneled into ActiveMining shareholders.

So, where can I see the current ActiveMining hashrate and mining profits?
Currently ActiveMining mines on BTC Guild at around ~700GH/s, as User 211435 and as Team AMC. Accumulated mining profits are stored in BTC address 1DJpsvnM7xTnQbWEhLYyCyfxQyxwupEzCa. Here's a graph of that.

What are the current plans for chip development?
ActiveMining is developing a 28nm Bitcoin mining chip using eASIC.
  • Chip samples delivered in 9 weeks;
  • Low-volume chip production starting in 12 weeks, using an e-beam process;
  • Normal volume chip production starting in 16-18 weeks.


Can you please provide some documents as proof of the existing claims?
Engineering Firm quote for the machines that will host the incoming Avalon chips: http://axs.net/AMC/SB-Prototype-Quote.jpg
eASIC chip NDA: http://axs.net/AMC/eAsic-NDA0001.jpg and http://axs.net/AMC/eAsic-NDA0002.jpg
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Active Mining Announcements
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Glad to see a new start, maybe information will be clearer now, clean from continuous trolling.
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Smart move making the announcements section separate, and starting a new thread will help make things clear. I couldn't read that abortion of a thread any longer.
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What happens if there aren't enough funds for the 28nm NRE?
There are several solutions for that. The current and incoming mining hardware should be able to cover that risk and there is still the option of going 45nm where the NRE cost is about half of the 28nm process.

Wasn't this already covered?
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Finally, we won't have to read through a bunch of garbage to get to relevant information and announcements.
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You can buy existing AMC shares (https://bitfunder.com/asset/AMC) or (https://btct.co/security/AMC-PT), and then tender them for ActiveMining shares once the details are published.

Are there any AMC shares existing now?
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"Our existing hardware assets from AMC liquidation
6 Avalon miners, currently running on BTC Guild under "Team AMC" for around 430 GH/s;
An order of Avalon chips from steamboat's batch #1, for 68 Klondike-16 boards, rated at 68*16*282 = 307 GH/s;

When will the Avalon chips from steamboat's batch #1 be available for mining?
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ActiveMining is developing a 28nm Bitcoin mining chip using eASIC.
  • Chip samples delivered in 9 weeks;
  • Low-volume chip production starting in 12 weeks, using an e-beam process;
  • Normal volume chip production starting in 16-18 weeks.

Please confirm: 9, 12, 16-18 weeks from now or do you refer to an earlier date, for example when the eASIC deal was signed?

I'd also like to know more details about what is going to happen after the chips have been received and an estimated timeframe for the process of turning chips into a final product.

I'm willing to delete this post on my own. Please tell me, if you'd like me to do that.

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Thank you very much for this!

It was really painful trying to keep up with the old topic...

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"Our existing hardware assets from AMC liquidation
6 Avalon miners, currently running on BTC Guild under "Team AMC" for around 430 GH/s;
An order of Avalon chips from steamboat's batch #1, for 68 Klondike-16 boards, rated at 68*16*282 = 307 GH/s;

When will the Avalon chips from steamboat's batch #1 be available for mining?

Soon we hope, they will be on the 68 Klondike boards.
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-[ActiveMining/Virtual Mining Corp] Basic facts/summary etc [Self-Moderated]-

---->  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437489.0






USEFUL INFORMATION THREAD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361930.msg3874071#msg3874071

by our dear user: drawingthesun




Active Mining Overview (needs to be updated.)

Objective:  To educate every shareholder and prospective shareholder on the historical timeline of events and future plans of Active Mining Cooperative so that each individual feels empowered to make the best possible decision regarding whether to invest in Active Mining Cooperative or not.

Initial offering – Active Mining Cooperative/Virtual Mining Corporation

The Active Mining Cooperative was initially created as a mining and development cooperative that shareholders could elect to take part in.  It was not, and is not, a mining bond, yet a company with a structured growth plan to increase its own hash rate by the purchases it made previous to the IPO and during the initial IPO.  The CEO’s aim was to protect investors as much as possible, while also giving AMC the ability to profit for itself and its shareholders.  The initial IPO was opened on March 26th, 2013 at 0.0005 per share (5,000,000 shares released to the public) on BitFunder, and another 20,000,000 shares issued which were to be used for the growth and expansion fund, equating to a total of 25 million shares.  At the time of the offering AMC held 6 purchased Avalon batch 2 mining machines, and was able to confirm their existence as AMC awaited shipment.  The initial contract created some descent and the CEO was fielding a lot of questions and concerns, while attempting to put out fires.  It was long, over complicated, and didn’t seem to have a clean cut offering to the potential shareholders.  

The same day, March 26th, a new contract was released in an attempt to correct some of the initial issues.  Virtual Mining Corporation was announced as a subsidiary of AMC to work in tandem with a Major Semiconductor Company to develop its fast hash chips (as we now know, this company was eASIC).  The mining source code to create RTL for the xc6xlt150 FPGA had been developed over the course of the previous year, and was in the process of being ported over to eASIC’s chip that was to be based on the netExtreme family of designs.  AMC was to purchase machines directly from VMC that were developed on the netExtreme families.  The important part of this contract change, that became the beginning stumbling block for AMC/VMC and potential shareholders was the issuing of more shares, the complex contract, and now multiple companies.  100,000,000 shares were to be released in total, but the confusing part of the contract rewrite was 20 million to early adopters and 20 million held by AMC for growth and expansion, with the other 60 million shares to be held by ownership.  Shares were to be released in batches of no less than 5 million at no less than 0.0005.

That is where things began to go sideways.  Many shareholders and members of BitcoinTalk.org were emotional over the changes to the original contract and how some of the questions were being answered and concerns being addressed.
 
Merger/Emergence of Active Mining Umbrella

The CEO, Kenneth Slaughter, seemed to decide that he needed to really listen, and collaborate, with members of the community and implement the changes that were requested, correct some of the concerns, and really paint an overall picture for the value of the company.  A full rewrite was committed and completed, VMC and AMC were merged under the Active Mining umbrella in collaboration with a few dedicated shareholders in the public forum.

The new contract, as it was approved on the forum, was made to be very simple for new shareholders and existing.  It read that 25 million shares were to be issued, 10 million of which were to be purchased by shareholders, the other 15 million would be held by Active Mining.  The new contract also took into account voting, and it is stated that Active Mining can be allowed in the future to issue more shares as a last resort measure after shareholder approval.  Important note here is the Public Investors Protection Plan; the first 10 million Active Mining shares that were released to the public are entitled to all profits until 0.0025/share is paid out in full, beginning from the day dividends begin to be issued.  This means the 15 million shares held by Active Mining will receive no dividends until the first 10 million receive the full investment back of 0.0025.  These few citations were incredibly important to the forum members working together with Active Mining to rewrite this contract.

This rewrite, and issuing only 25 million shares, increased the shareholders percentage of the company to 40%, up from 10% as the initial offering stated (100 million shares, now 25 million).  This is a 4 fold uptick in value for current holders.  The shareholders who previously held AMC shares are given the opportunity to swap their shares on a 1:1 basis and are also covered under the public investor’s protection plan.

Mistakes that were made in the initial days

In the initial offering there were a few mistakes made by the new CEO and AMC as a whole.  Kenneth Slaughter is an Engineer by nature and in heart; he is not an Underwriter, nor a Broker nor a Portfolio Manager.  The public company offering was, as far as I can tell, his first public offering.  The changing of share count, from 25 million to 100 million was mistake one.  Having these multiple companies in the same house also confused investors and sent up red flags.  He also moved blocks of IPO shares around at different prices, first 0.0005, then to 0.0008, and back to 0.0005.  He was seeing the value of his company, and I think with him rushing to get this NRE finished, and the company off the ground, he made this mistake.  Really, I feel the initial IPO should have been at 0.0025 as you could see the ambitious nature of this project, and the potential profits it could have been discovered.

Kenneth’s communication skills at the onset were lacking as well, but I am not going to hold it at this point in time, as we all make mistakes when we are so busy.  The communication, I believe, is what caused all the misunderstandings with investors and their rage.  

The mistakes were corrected with the full rewrite and public offering in collaboration with shareholders and BitcoinTalk.org forum members, including myself.  Communication from Active Mining has been excellent since this merger was first conceived and implemented.  In talks with Ken, I believe there are plans for a PR rep or department to handle some of the questions that arise or concerns.

So where is Active Mining at now? [NOT UPDATED - Read the thread Original Post]

Active Mining is the identity completely owned by Active Mining Corporation (Belize).  The company currently owns 6 Avalon machines for a total of ~430 GH/s.  There is an order of Avalon chips from Steamboats batch 1 group buy already purchased, for 68 Klondike boards rated at ~307 GH/s.  It is estimated these will arrive no later than the end of August.  There is also an order of 20k Avalon chips that were ordered end of May and beginning of June in two 10k purchases for a hashrate of 5,640 GH/s.  In total, around ~6,377 GH/s is expected to come online by the end of August/early September.

Active Mining Corp. also has its already announced relationship with eASIC, an ASIC chip manufacturer, to develop its chips on the 28nm architecture, and is in the process of collecting the funds for the NRE.   As of this writing, my calculations show 6366.47 BTC and $588,635 from pre-orders, which are available for the NRE less expenses, meaning Active Mining is ready, or very close, to finishing off the NRE required for eASIC to begin production of the ASIC chips going into Active Mining’s Fast Hash machines.  These numbers are my own rough estimations (thanks to Vbs!), as Active Mining is not disclosing how close they are to completion of the NRE, and for good reason.

Once production of the chips begin, eASIC states they will deliver sample chips in 9 weeks, low volume chip production in 12 weeks, and full production in 16-18 weeks.  For more information on eASIC please see the links below.

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Question & Answer

Q.  Why did Ken position more shares at 0.0008 then back to 0.0005?

A.  I believe he had stated the IPO was to be at 0.0005, but that later shares would be sold at market price.  However, the wording on the contract was askew and the exchange holder made him release the second round at 0.0005, when the market price was at 0.0008. This angered a lot of speculators.  

Q.  Who is eASIC and why did Ken choose this manufacturer?

A.  eASIC has become one of the leaders and fastest growing semi-conductor manufacturers in North America.  I believe Ken chose them not only because of their reputation in the field of ASIC chip design, but also because of its proximity.  

Q.  What happens if Active Mining does not reach its NRE goal by the deadline of July 31st?

A.  Actually, there is no deadline.  The July 31st date was an estimation that was presented to eASIC for when the NRE would complete.  There is quite a bit of flexibility for the completion of the NRE and eASIC has been following the progress since Ken incorporated.  The NRE is almost complete as of today, so this is a moot point.
 NRE IS COMPLETE

Q.  How long do we have until we cannot transfer our AMC-PT shares to ActiveMining?

A.  The deadling given by Ken was July 31st.

Q.  When does Active Mining, more specifically Virtual Mining Corp, expect to be shipping the Fast-Hash-One miners?

A.  October/November 2013

Q.  Why is Ken using stolen pictures representing his miners?

A.  This is a myth indeed; those pictures are of the chassis the miners will go in.  They are Chenbro rack mount server chassis that can be modified for many different purposes.  The pictures are not stolen and represent to the potential customers what the miner housing will look like.  Follow this link for visual credence https://www.flickr.com/photos/98907028@N08/9282025798/

Q.  What is on the immediate horizon for Active Mining?

A.  Payment for the assembly of the 68 Klondike boards has been accepted as of July 3rd.  The 20k Avalon chips are inbound as well.  The immediate horizon estimates 6,377 GH/s by no later than the end of August.

Q.  What is with all the names, AMC, VMC, Active Mining?

A.  When this venture was first conceived AMC was essentially the entity that the shareholders represented.  VMC was the producer and seller of the miners.  The separate companies threw investors off.  Now, to make it much more simple for investors to understand, Active Mining is the umbrella that all holders are invested in.  VMC should just be seen as the sales division and AMC as the mining division.  As an investor you are invested in all of Active Mining, its sales and mining revenue, hence the merger.

Important Links and updates:

Sorry for the links, some of these just won't hyperlink for some reason

Board announced: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2968841#msg2968841

AMC Tender to Active Mining Dividends payment update:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2900081#msg2900081

August 4th and 5th:  ActiveMining-PR established, Advisory Board in construction, legalities and responsibilities to be determined:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142728;sa=showPosts

Ken returns from the west coast, meets with the Eng. Firm, eASIC, and pays Divs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2857653#msg2857653 Stayed an extra day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2860656#msg2860656 and the plane was delayed:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2857678#msg2857678  Still waiting on the final shares to tender manually.

August 3rd: Auto-Share transfer complete: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2858549#msg2858549

Ukyo updates us on the auto-share transfer and delay:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2852808#msg2852808

July 31st:  Ken announces share swap on Bitfunder in cooperation with Ukyo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2843386#msg2843386

July 29th:  Ken moves 120k shares from BitFunder to BTCT - a major investor (Volcanic Eruptor) pays premium of $5k USD for transfer:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2828719#msg2828719  +  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2828719#msg2828719  +  watch the share count on BF:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2828943#msg2828943

July 26th:  Ken updates us on his meeting with eASIC and hints at an Official Announcement:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2809363#msg2809363

Active Mining Corp Private Placement Memorandum:  http://axs.net/AMC/PPM/AM.pdf  and   http://axs.net/AMC/PPM/AM1.pdf

July 24th: Ken departs for California to meet with eASIC.

Avalon prototypes are about a week behind: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2774323#msg2774323

Babefoot released his report on meeting Ken:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2767646#msg2767646

July 21st:  Ken is to be traveling this week to eASIC and is seeking to hammer down the final steps in getting this chip into production:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2774070#msg2774070

July 19th:  Ken announces the RTL code was tested for feasibility:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206488.msg2765874#msg2765874

July 19th: Well that didnt take long, AMC-PT set a record, I believe today, for the 24 hour volume on BTCT.  As of this writing it sits at 1403697 shares moved over this period.  The wall on BTCT has been completely smashed well ahead of the expected completion date.  Congrats to all!  https://btct.co/security/AMC-PT

Ken announces on July 18th @ 10:11am EST pre-order sales top $580k: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2755486#msg2755486

Ken announces timeline for Klondike and Avalon clones, 3 and 6 weeks respectively: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158806.msg2751822#msg2751822

Here is the Engineering Firm quote for the machines that will host the incoming Avalon chips: http://axs.net/AMC/SB-Prototype-Quote.jpg

This is the eASIC chip NDA on file: http://axs.net/AMC/eAsic-NDA0001.jpg and http://axs.net/AMC/eAsic-NDA0002.jpg

Payment update for Klondike assembly (July 3rd): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158806.msg2647145#msg2647145

Important update on the Klondike assembly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2724773#msg2724773

Update to the dividend payment made on July 12th and the questions surrounding its amount: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2715922#msg2715922

Picture of the office: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2711010#msg2711010

Pictures of Springfield Underground data center: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158806.msg2640041#msg2640041

Update email regarding the prototypes from the engineers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206488.msg2694708#msg2694708

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fast-Hash/319110168218206

Babefoots initial summary of visit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg2725919#msg2725919 and pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/98907028@N08/

eASIC articles:
http://www.easic.com/high-speed-transceivers-low-cost-power-fpga-nre-asic-45nm-easic-nextreme-2/easic-nextreme-2-fast-turnaround-asics-manufacturing/

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1316644

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

http://www.easic.com/easic-rated-third-fastest-growing-semiconductor-company-in-north-america-on-deloittes-2012-technology-fast-500/

http://www.crunchbase.com/company/easic

http://www.easic.com/easic-raises-23-5m-of-growth-capital/

UPDATE:

http://www.easic.com/vmc-uses-easic-to-achieve-24-756-ths-bitcoin-miner/

Bitcoin News Outlets:

http://www.coindesk.com/vmc-closes-deal-for-28nm-asic-chips-in-24-5-thsec-miners/

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/vmc-announces-28nm-asic-chips-with-24-5-thsec-miners-to-be-delivered-in-november/

http://thegenesisblock.com/easic-announces-24-ths-hash-fast-miner-activemining-shares-move-70/

Disclosure:  I am a shareholder of Active Mining, but am no way affiliated with Ken on a personal level.  I only know him through the posts on Bitcointalk.org and private messages back and forth.  I am not paid by Active Mining other than what my shares represent, and only bought in at the 0.0025 second IPO offering.  I started out thinking I didn’t want to miss the boat on another potentially huge investment, like how I missed getting into Bitcoin early.  I became skeptical just as many other potential shareholders early on and jumped ship during the IPO, but as the information came to light, and Ken stepped up his game, I jumped right back in.


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I just sent Ken a detailed message regarding information for the coming phases. See below. I'll post the reply if he sends me anything.

Ken,

I've made my rounds with a few of the larger holders I've come to know in the ActM community and I've come across a few of the same questions/concerns over and over. I thought I'd just write you, as they all seemed to think it fruitless to even inquire. I'm not asking for a direct answer here necessarily, though if you do give me one I will immediately post it to the forums, but these questions would be good to publicly answer.

1. Is there a certain amount of money that MUST be made in sales in order for ActM to move on to assembling devices? There have been rumors that two million is needed to move forward according to plan. Is this the case?

2. Given that we have missed out on early profits due to poor pricing, and that those profits have been taken by competitors, do you have any plans to get ActM caught up to the pack? ~$90K is a terribly small number of sales in the face of $17M between CoinTerra and Hashfast (http://thegenesisblock.com/cointerra-and-hashfast-sell-17m-of-bitcoin-miners-open-second-batch-sales/). Could you address this?

3. Now that the eASIC deal is behind us, could you outline the plan moving forward for assembling the miners? What is your process? How many staff will you have on hand? Where will this be done (I know you've mentioned "the warehouse" in the past, is that it?)

4. Further, could discuss how ActM is going to set itself apart when it comes to shipping devices? Shipping reliability is critical, as you know, and it would be a confidence booster to hear a thoughtful process has been devised.

As you can see, there is a lot of unknowns, even among some of your biggest shareholders. We would like all the dots connected, and to see the plan that you have come up with laid our in a clear way for us. Is there anything you can do to relay what you have in store for these coming phases?

Thanks for your time,
Kleeck

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Ken's answers:

1-
This is under the NDA.

2-
Yes, we are working to get caught up to the pack.  Both CoinTerra and HashFast were is stealth mode and where somewhat ahead of us on their development of their 28nm technology.

Now the ~90K is not revenue, but sales profit.  Our revenue was ~$330,000.  CoinTerra and HashFast post revenue figures, our revenue  figure is a lot higher like theirs; however, how much profit did they really get?

3-
Yes, we have ~2,600 square feet of space which we are turning into a manufacturing site.  This site will be used to assemble the final product.  The number of staff will depend on our sales from now until we start assembling the units.  The more sales the more staff we will need to assemble more units to meet the demand.

4-
Shipping reliability is critical under the current system of mining, that may change in the future. We are working to be competitive  in the market place with shipping. stay tuned for more developments.

We are in the the chip and PCIe board design phase now.  We are also working on increasing sales, as you know we have just announced the easic deal which has given us a lot of respectability.  We have just been added to the "theGenesisBlock" mining calculator.  This has caused us to start receiving a lot of traffic to our website from links like this.

Ken

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg3178763#msg3178763
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September 20, 2013, 12:18:23 AM
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I now understand why self-moderated threads work thanks for that thought experiment and hello to the new thread Smiley

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September 20, 2013, 12:35:18 AM
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Just a note to say that vbs' spreadsheet is very out of date. The hardware profits (not revenues) are unlikely to come anywhere close (given profits pre price cut). Things have changed too much.

Ken, what's the mining plan?

And I know you can't discuss batch sizes, but what is the plan if the minimum workable batch size isn't met from sales?

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Like ffssixtynine said, that spreadsheet is very out of date now (it was made in July) and I haven't updated it anymore. Smiley
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im very happy we started a new thread

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September 20, 2013, 01:40:38 AM
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Just a note to say that vbs' spreadsheet is very out of date. The hardware profits (not revenues) are unlikely to come anywhere close (given profits pre price cut). Things have changed too much.

Ken, what's the mining plan?

And I know you can't discuss batch sizes, but what is the plan if the minimum workable batch size isn't met from sales?


Please clearly address this.

Thanks.


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