[ANN] Fibonacci Info and questions

[jasinlee]

Posting git for open source pcb. https://github.com/losh11/aura-asic

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[Dabs]

Using this:

0.65$ with 10% discount if paying in LTC at 960 kh/s per chip.

I get this:
Recursion 1 = 960 KH/S = 561.6 USD in LTC
Axiom 16 = 15,360 KH/s = 8,985.60 USD in LTC
Epsilon 32 = 30,720 KH/s = 17,971.20 USD in LTC

And if you ever have 8 chips
"The Dabs Miner" 8 = 7,680 KH/S = 4,492.80 USD in LTC

Or you can label it "The Fiat Killer" too, since he suggested it.

Okay, I'm buying either 8~9~10 "Recursions" or 1 "The Dabs Miner".

[jasinlee]

Using this:

0.65$ with 10% discount if paying in LTC at 960 kh/s per chip.

I get this:
Recursion 1 = 960 KH/S = 561.6 USD in LTC
Axiom 16 = 15,360 KH/s = 8,985.60 USD in LTC
Epsilon 32 = 30,720 KH/s = 17,971.20 USD in LTC

And if you ever have 8 chips
"The Dabs Miner" 8 = 7,680 KH/S = 4,492.80 USD in LTC

Or you can label it "The Fiat Killer" too, since he suggested it.

Okay, I'm buying either 8~9~10 "Recursions" or 1 "The Dabs Miner".

Lmao, whats funny is we had (when this was an FPGA project) created a board with 4 and 8 chips. But they went bye bye when we started working on the ASIC.

[Dabs]

I have 4,700~ USD worth of assorted crypto. Engrave it on the PCB or I mean, print it on the Printed Circuit Board and I'm buying, and paying you now. Shall I send to LTCasicYDKQVGySmG5vwCiqiZFpMcr7oMi in 2.5 minutes?

hehe.

(okay, it's going to take longer than the next block, as it's scattered all over the place.)

[Tomatocage]

Hmm interesting. Is there a limit on the number of Epsilon 32s you'll sell per customer?

[jasinlee]

Hmm interesting. Is there a limit on the number of Epsilon 32s you'll sell per customer?

Yes, we will actually be limiting their production overall. I do not have a figure yet, it will depend on how much of the total networks % we would effect by producing them.

[Dabs]

Some of us will be mining other alt-coins, so don't worry too much about Litecoin. If I ever launch DabsCoin, I'll be sure no one else can 51% it by having 51% myself. LOL.

[jasinlee]

Lol, well that is one way to do it.

[FiatKiller]

Yes, we are all Fiat Killers! whoop whoop

[jasinlee]

This week is going to be fun.

[DimensionsOfHell]

That seems more like a reasonable price. How long before they are available? And by available I mean when will they be actually HASHING? I know they won't be shipped for awhile because of hosting, but when will they be actually hashing? I'm trying to plan out my investments. Any idea on timeframe? Like end of January? Mid February? Early march?

[Dabs]

This one doesn't really have a time limit? I may have missed out on your "non-competition" since I'm still HODLING my cryptocoins.

[Eastwind]

That seems more like a reasonable price. How long before they are available? And by available I mean when will they be actually HASHING? I know they won't be shipped for awhile because of hosting, but when will they be actually hashing? I'm trying to plan out my investments. Any idea on timeframe? Like end of January? Mid February? Early march?

I have the same questions. plus:

Are the chips being made in a IC factory or it is still in design?

When will the PCB be ready?

If they are not ready yet, I would have though it is not Q1 delivery, probably Q3 delivery,

[jasinlee]

As soon as they come out of the foundry we will place them on the PCB and begin testing for about 2-3 days would be my educated guess. The PCB is available inside of 3 days, and has been completed for some time now (you can go look at the Aura open source PCB to see that this is true). Design is finished, we have been working on details to get the company properly established the past week. As soon as all the red tape/paperwork is done then we begin production. We have been aiming for April/May for delivery, this is the beauty of 65nm vs other smaller/newer tech, its a simple matter of using our turn in the queue. Rather than waiting on a spot to open up at one of the 28nm facilities. If anyone would like to confirm the normal production timeline for a 65nm, my engineers tell me 2-4 months. Our aim will be between March-May, and we will be paying for expedited production.

[carface]

Ok well take as long as you have to to get everything good!

[Dabs]

Okay. Sounds good. It seems getting a GPU now is going to take time to ROI simply because of power consumption, no matter what coin I mine.

[FiatKiller]

Ok, stupid question... can someone give me the basics of the nM sizes I keep seeing?
Is a smaller or larger number better and why. lol
I know smaller means less current carrying capacity in the trace, but I would imagine
you can fit more circuitry within a chip which would be good for the size of the final
product. But does it effect speed also?

thanks

[msm595]

Ok, stupid question... can someone give me the basics of the nM sizes I keep seeing?
Is a smaller or larger number better and why. lol
I know smaller means less current carrying capacity in the trace, but I would imagine
you can fit more circuitry within a chip which would be good for the size of the final
product. But does it effect speed also?

thanks

lower nm:
smaller physical size
less energy used
faster (potentially)
more expensive

[newtothescene]

Also usually less heat and ability to increase density of multi chip designs.

[jasinlee]

And lead time is increased due to very few of these facilities that can use the ~28nm processes. Its why we chose to stick to 65nm, the time and availability of the facilities is abundant in comparison.