I posted this here but no mod has done anything with it, even for fedora
http://forum.fedoracoin.net/index.php?topic=17.0Well
Ive never created a forum sticky, been a mod or done this kind of thing. Id start a whole new forum for tips, but in doing so it would offend invisible and he could pull the plug.
We have all seen how disorganised this particular thread is. better then nothing. Ive seen some amazing ideas in the last 10 pages but there is no structure and those ideas are lost. Shame for now.
THIS IS HOW THE MARKETING ARM SHOULD BE RUN.....CAN A MOD PLEASE ORGANISE THIS.
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Organise the community like an advertising agency I used to work at.
Bold type is the name of a sticky thread to be created by a modIf there are advertising/ design or promotion areas you think we should be exploiting then, you talk about them in
step 1 Think tank thread Mods and Devs can read the problems or areas we should be targeting, then go the the Announcement thread to call on the community.
So lets say the Devs have a new feature for the coin that was brought to there attention in the think tank. It will be announced in
step 2 Announcements thread.
They announced coin mixing and want people to find out about it. We are also given a deadline.
The community then talks about who is the target audience in the
step 3 Target Audience thread
Once a decision is made on who we want to tell, we will know if we need a banner for a crypto news site, an email to an exchange or a twitter campaign etc.
We now know what we are selling and who we are selling to. This is where we split, Right brained people in the Creative threads. And the left brained people to step 6 Account handler thread. So in
step 4 Creatives Thread
The creatives thread is where we TALK only and have hand drawn ideas only.This prevents wasting the time of graphic designers and shit ideas being polished and agreed on. Keep it simple. The idea has to sound. Once we agree on an idea we write a summery/brief and take that idea to either the Art department or Copywriters thread.
step 5aThe Art department Thread for designers to be briefed correctly to create banners/ads/design. If a photo is needed we use our own photos for copyright reasons. The designer can ask for resource material here.
step 5b Copywriters thread for Email writing and social media copy. left brained people will do well here too. Then to
step 6 Account handler thread is where advertising space is researched, which website will take are ad. Emails and information to spread the message, what size banner do we need. Report back to the art department with specifications. Then if its a banner and we need funds, we tip. Once the amount is raised an Announcements is made in
step 7 Announcements thread at what time the tips will be sold, so we can create a buy wall and absorb the dump.
Once everything is created, a Mod or dev will post the ad/image/email/website/app/tweet lines etc in
step 8 Ad activist thread for you to spread over the internet. websites and links will be provided that came from the Account handler thread. Then to the chillout room to celebrate.
step 9 Chillout room thread where we post fun stuff and celebrate are success and achievements. If some flare war starts in a thread you come here, it's the sometimes fun to watch.
More departments will be added once we get the basics done. A thread for links for voting on the coin to be added to exchanges, research department for news and potential promotion areas, A thread for things for the twitter and Facebook to post.
This simple template and steps I hope will start to organise the community into a structured company.
Also, at some point a mod is going to have to create these sticky threads. Im sure the devs have a lot on there hands but ideally id like to see 10 mods covering all the time zones and watching this forum to report back to Devs. Communication is very important. I don't know how the mods will be picked, but I hope they have some forum management experience.
message to mod... keep the numbers in the title.
QuestionsWhy so many threads? Well its to prevent us from confusing each other. We may have an idea then someone comes along 5 hours later prefers something else or brings up a new problem and we go round in circles. Also we don't need to mix the advertising space finding and email writing together. Think of tips like a client of an advertising agency. This will also prevent wasting the time of designers with bad ideas. The designers are creative and MUST be involved with the coming up with an idea stage. If they're away photoshoping a bad idea we all lose.
Why can't we post photoshoped work in the Creative thread? its to prevent a bad idea being polished and voted on based on the merit of its execution? Its idea first then execution.
Example: The fedora website is orange! I don't know why but it appears the idea is to copy bitcoin orange as the atheist E logo looks like the bitcoin logo. So the idea looks like "copy bitcoin". Thats a bad idea! Tips the brand is not a copy of anything. That idea should have never got to the execution phase. I want ALL the designers involved in the idea stage! said it again.
I have an idea and everyone hates it, how do I convince people to my way of thinking? Well your idea isn't shit as long as its an idea. Does the idea have a reason? Is the idea relevant? Would your mother understand it without any explanation?
How do we know when to go to the next department?A mod will announce the end of the task and move on to the relevant department. The mod will also write the brief for the next department. Consider it the final approval of that current task.
What do you mean by brief?Once ideas in the creative department are flowing a mod will take the best idea and write up a brief for the designers to follow. Ill update with an example later. But the brief will have target audience info, objective, strategy and the idea explained in detail. Reasons for colour etc. Green tones for the website, because it represents money and new! Target audience is the US as they are the biggest tippers, are just examples of things that could go on the brief.
We don't get payed why should I bother to help? You are being payed if you own TIPS. The harder you work now the more your tips will be worth in the future.
SO this is the marketing and promotion arm. We need a technology and development arm for the devs and like minded computer boffins. People have technology ideas then there needs to be structure like this. I
I think you did a great job with your structure suggestion and I think it is necessary for our community to get going in that direction. I also posted a reply on the forum, hoping we start building that. And I suggest somebody who knows more than I do to write in a thread a list of who is who, who is developing, who is responsible for the reddit section and more importantly what positions do we need now, ie. marketing coordination, maybe one official person for each department to announce stuff and give green lights after decisions are made for example after writing the official letter we should be sending to the news sites. We should have this list and have it pinned in the forum so we can go back to it when needed so our work can be coordinated and channeled correctly and not losing the good ideas being suggested on this thread here.
"I would very much like to see this structure built into this forum so we can work in an organized and coordinated way. There were many good ideas suggested on the bitcointalk forum thread that are getting lost now, and we need a structure where we put the interesting ideas into a think tank group of threads to be discussed individually and then push them to the next level until the good ones get realized. The bitcointalk forum is good for ongoing hot discussions and announcements and mobilization, but to organize the ideas and have a structured flow of work that makes our community effective and progressive we need to have such a structure on the fedoracoin (TIPS now) forum page. I hope this gets done. Do we have at least a list of the names, who is who, who is managing the forum, who has the authority to do what, what other positions are needed so we elect people to take certain responsibilities and start building the structure? we need to do that now I suggest. I hope Invisible and those who have been leading the development upto now can chip in soon and give the green light and we get this thing to the next level!
