New Report to moderator stats ;) thank you theymos

[TheBeardedBaby]

Here there are

Report to moderator
Use this function to inform the moderators and administrators of an abusive or wrongly posted message.
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You have reported 1073 posts with 100% accuracy (1012 good, 9 bad, 52 unhandled). Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

Update. Now we have also "report history"


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[mdayonliner]

Aha! here is mine 

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[Welsh]

I noticed that things were being changed step by step as I was reporting, and then hit a error for a few seconds thought I might of broken something for a moment. I particularly like the unhandled stats being shown could be useful if your ever wondering why a post hasn't been dealt with.

Hopefully people don't go on a rant when they see that one of their posts got marked bad though. Impressive stats from the both of you considering your relatively new. Good job.

[criz2fer]

Hopefully people don't go on a rant when they see that one of their posts got marked bad though.

It would not be a big deal for the reporter because we are not reporting just for the stat but to make the forum clean from spammers and users that are present in the forum.

Hope we can filter our reports in the future. (Just a suggestion)

[TheBeardedBaby]

I think now Vod and LoyceV will be happy with the new stats. They were the ones pushing for this extra data.
Next step is to get a data dump on the report stats, it will be good to see how many are actively reporting

[InvoKing]

Hopefully people don't go on a rant when they see that one of their posts got marked bad though.

It is legitimate to know why in order to improve our reports quality imo.
Well, i don't ask for it urgently but hopefully it will happens in the future.
I consider this as a good move. Thx theymos.

[Welsh]

I think now Vod and LoyceV will be happy with the new stats. They were the ones pushing for this extra data.
Next step is to get a data dump on the report stats, it will be good to see how many are actively reporting

In addition to this it would be nice to know the average reports per week/month. Could put into perspective how much the moderators are actually dealing with. (hint: a lot)

It would not be a big deal for the reporter because we are not reporting just for the stat but to make the forum clean from spammers and users that are present in the forum.

Hope we can filter our reports in the future. (Just a suggestion)

We've already seen people bring up the issue when their accuracy drops in the past. I feel it could become more common now once someone sees that one of their posts was marked bad. Especially, since before this implementation accuracy didn't fluctuate where as the new system does.

It is legitimate to know why in order to improve our reports quality imo.
Well, i don't ask for it urgently but hopefully it will happens in the future.
I consider this as a good move. Thx theymos.

Yeah, I like the new stats. Although, it could have the opposite effect, and prevent people reporting posts they aren't 100% sure on as the stats are much more accurate now. Hopefully, that isn't the case though.

I remember theymos changing how the report percentage was calculated before to a more precise way. Although, was quickly changed back. Here's the quote:

Since so many people have so many reports, I changed the percentage on the reports page so that it uses proper rounding instead of ceil() and shows 1 decimal. Actually, I changed my mind. This would probably make people feel subconsciously paranoid about reporting.

UPDATE: Seems we have a report history button which shows what reports have been dealt with now. Which I do like, a lot.

[TheBeardedBaby]

@Welsh
I do report what I see, and in the report I often write what I feel is wrong with the post.
I would be very happy to know which are those 9 bad reports. Just for info.
I try to do some research before I report something.

[SFR10]

How far back, we can see these report stats on our "report history" (a week, a month or more)?
- I'm asking this since I've been inactive (recently), in terms of reporting.
Would be nice to see our own comments, somewhere on "report history".

[MadZ]

How far back, we can see these report stats on our "report history" (a week, a month or more)?
- I'm asking this since I've been inactive (recently), in terms of reporting.
Would be nice to see our own comments, somewhere on "report history".

Most of my reports are from years ago and I still have stats on them. Just hit report to moderator and you will see for yourself.

[TheQuin]

How far back, we can see these report stats on our "report history" (a week, a month or more)?
- I'm asking this since I've been inactive (recently), in terms of reporting.

It looks to be one month.


I have to say I'm amazed that such a high number are dealt with. I'd assumed the % of unhandled reports to be much higher. The mods are certainly earning their pennies.

[SFR10]

Most of my reports are from years ago and I still have stats on them. Just hit report to moderator and you will see for yourself.

You may have misunderstood my first post (perhaps I should've included the appropriate link as well).

I was asking for listed reports on "report history".

It looks to be one month.

Thank you.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I see that all the homograph attacks I reported are note handled yet. Why is that? Do you need more proof for those?

[LoyceV]

I think now Vod and LoyceV will be happy with the new stats. They were the ones pushing for this extra data.

I wouldn't call it pushing, but I was curious Abd it is nice to see the stats.

My stats:

You have reported 3093 posts with 98% accuracy (2810 good, 63 bad, 220 unhandled).

That means my 98% is rounded up, I'm 10 bad reports away from falling into 97% territory.

From my history, some of the posts that I considered off-topic and/or trolling are marked as bad reports. Spam or wrong board are all marked as good.

Is this not available for all accounts (yet)? My LoyceBot and LoyceMobile don't show more stats.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I think now Vod and LoyceV will be happy with the new stats. They were the ones pushing for this extra data.

I wouldn't call it pushing, but I was curious Abd it is nice to see the stats.

My stats:

You have reported 3093 posts with 98% accuracy (2810 good, 63 bad, 220 unhandled).

That means my 98% is rounded up, I'm 10 bad reports away from falling into 97% territory.

From my history, some of the posts that I considered off-topic and/or trolling are marked as bad reports. Spam or wrong board are all marked as good.

Yeah OK, maybe pushing was not the right word here. It was also interesting for me to know my stats too.

BTW congrats to the new Merit Source. We need more people like you here

Is this not available for all accounts (yet)? My LoyceBot and LoyceMobile don't show more stats.

Maybe it is also rank related.

[WelshOnTheRoad]

That's interesting. Either rank based or number of reports based. As the majority of users likely wouldnt use this stat unfortunately.

[hilariousetc]

I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.

I see that all the homograph attacks I reported are note handled yet. Why is that? Do you need more proof for those?

They take time to look into. It's best to include the link to the post they copied which makes things much easier. Otherwise staff have to spend time searching for it and they can't always be found easy.

[WelshOnTheRoad]

Anyone who beats my 1 reported post can have a howeycoin on me

I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.

I suppose you haven't reported much on this account? Which would somewhat support my idea of it being tied to number of reports.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.

I see that all the homograph attacks I reported are note handled yet. Why is that? Do you need more proof for those?

They take time to look into. It's best to include the link to the post they copied which makes things much easier. Otherwise staff have to spend time searching for it and they can't always be found easy.

It takes a lot of time for me to change back all Cyrillic letters back to Latin in order to search for copy/paste posts. It's easier to detect the homographs.
This is why I proposed here using of homographs/homoglyphs outside of the Local boards to be forbidden and added into rules. Why would one use such a technique if there is nothing to hide in the text?
This will make both our and Mod's lives easier

[hilariousetc]

I don't think all of them are doing it maliciously though. Maybe that's just the way their keyboard is configured if that's their native language and originally it's genuine users making a post and some other bot is just coming along and copy and pasting that one. Could be wrong but I'm not sure whether people are doing purposely to avoid detection.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I don't think all of them are doing it maliciously though. Maybe that's just the way their keyboard is configured if that's their native language and originally it's genuine users making a post and some other bot is just coming along and copy and pasting that one. Could be wrong but I'm not sure whether people are doing purposely to avoid detection.

No, here you are wrong. I'm using Cyrillic keyboard layout too but for to achieve what they do you need to switch between the two EN/BG (or RU) to change every single letter which has homograph or use Word like program to search and replace those characters.
I have seen this before in my University in order to avoid the plagiarism checker, some students has done that, but they got caught at the end.
If it happens in one word or two it can be taken as mistake but doing this for 15 and more words. Here is an example with proof >

I am utilizing imToken to protect most of my holdings,using these imToken will prevent you from being attacked by these hackers.They are less vulnerable compare to the web wallets that has higher chance and prone to these hackers,imToken are the most secured type of cryptocurrency storage.I am utilizing imToken for about 3 years now and I dont encountered any problem utilizing it. Unless you open your security to programmers...

In my opinion, the best altcoin besides bitcoin is ethereum. It has shown great progress through time and has a lot of tokens using it. The increase in price might be slower compared to bitcoin but it is consistently rising.

New altcoins have a large room for it to gain more value. For me, it is really good to invest in new altcoins but always check the track of the coin if it still growing or if it is slowly decreasing its value. also study other new altcoins how it behave.

You know that investment is always risky weather it is crypto or other project. If you don't have the risk taking ability than you are in the wrong track. You better forget about crypto. It's a market of up and down. When the is very high you keep praising it and when down you keep crying. That's nothing but wasting time.

My most favorite ICo project is onLive, which provides users with revolutionary capabilities when working with streaming video.
early completion of pre-ICo showed that the project is a success and I believe in the success of the tokensale.

I do not think that blockchain projects in the medical industry are a good idea. because it is not a sufficiently studied technology, it is not implemented anywhere 100%. and in general, the medical industry is not one of those that is so easy to change

You can hold some eTH and and buy some alts. Get some cheap coins from the top 50-100. Look into them and see which ones you like and you think have potential for growth.

although bitcoin is very good, it still has disadvantages that can not be overcome. So the altcoin was born with outstanding features and the ability to apply in practice, these altcoins have made the market crypto more diverse and more nuanced.

It is very good time to invest in ICO,you can see zebi 7x profit recently ,you must find all the information about the project and team,read carefully the whitepaper and roadmap ,choose the most interesting and promising  project,
i sure you will win profits too.

I think there has to be a fine balance, never say never but with the current trends and plethora of project it makes sense to see some evidence that the team has the capability to deliver what has been promised at least a test alpha of a product.

Here is the proof of the homographs using the browser auto-correct option.
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[hilariousetc]

I don't think all of them are doing it maliciously though. Maybe that's just the way their keyboard is configured if that's their native language and originally it's genuine users making a post and some other bot is just coming along and copy and pasting that one. Could be wrong but I'm not sure whether people are doing purposely to avoid detection.

No, here you are wrong. I'm using Cyrillic keyboard layout too but for to achieve what they do you need to switch between the two EN/BG (or RU) to change every single letter which has homograph or use Word like program to search and replace those characters.
I have seen this before in my University in order to avoid the plagiarism checker, some students has done that, but they got caught at the end.
If it happens in one word or two it can be taken as mistake but doing this for 15 and more words. Here is an example with proof >

Well I said I might be, but I've seen bots copy these posts with the foreign characters which are seemingly the original post, but where are the original posts they copy and pasted from?

[LTU_btc]

It's very interesting to see how many if my reports was marked as bad and how many are unhandled. But I'm wondering why my report history page is empty, I don't see any posts there, just stats. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

[nev1d]

As for me, the update is very interesting. Although I do not often use this button, I think many liked it. Thank administration for your work!

[LeGaulois]

Good idea: especially the last report's history

April 20, 2018, 02:40:10 PM   Re: What is the best Virtual Credit Card there is?   LeGaulois   Bad

According to the stats I reported my own post  

[LoyceV]

Well I said I might be, but I've seen bots copy these posts with the foreign characters which are seemingly the original post, but where are the original posts they copy and pasted from?

That's the annoying part: to find the original, you have to actually type it again by yourself. The last one from iasenko's list for instance came from this:

I think there has to be a fine balance, never say never but with the current trends and plethora of project it makes sense to see some evidence that the team has the capability to deliver what has been promised at least a test Alpha of a product.

Some are more difficult to find: I can only find parts of the text. If a bot combines a homograph attack with copying parts of different posts, it is very difficult to prove plagiarism.
I'd say they should all be banned. Using a homograph attack is enough reason to assume bad intentions.

[theymos]

Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

This is the one I use:
http://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/languages/europe/cyrillic/cyrillicchart/

@Welsh,   now I saw that you edited it your comment. Why did you remove it now man.

There are more characters see the link I posted, not only the main Cyrillic, like:
CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZE   S   &‌#1029;   &‌#x0405;

[LoyceV]

Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

From my other thread:

I can say about the russian alphabet. It has some cyrillic symbols which can be used in a homograph attack.

Lower case (6 identical symbols):
aбвгдeёжзийклмнoпpcтyфxцчшщъыьэюя
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

Upper case (11 identical symbols):
AБBГДEЁЖЗИЙКЛMHOПPCTУФXЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ
ABCDEFGHIGKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Note that the cyrillic symbols are encoded as 2 bytes in UTF-8, therefore:
1) wallet = 6 unicode symbols = 6 bytes in UTF-8
2) wallet = 6 unicode symbols  = 8 bytes in UTF-8

[Welsh]

Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

This is the one I use:
http://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/languages/europe/cyrillic/cyrillicchart/

@Welsh,   now I saw that you edited it your comment. Why did you remove it now man.

There are more characters see the link I posted, not only the main Cyrillic, like:
CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZE   S   &‌#1029;   &‌#x0405;

I thought yours was a better resource, and therefore mine was redundant.  I was going to initially format a table here on the forum but, decided against that 

[TheBeardedBaby]

I thought yours was a better resource, and therefore mine was redundant.  I was going to initially format a table here on the forum but, decided against that  

Well the more resources, the better. (Not sure if the grammar is correct here). In my link I found other similarities too not only the well known RU/BG Cyrillic. There are letters like S J Y etc. I didn't knew were Cyrillic from Ukrainian, Belarusian, Serbian etc. Hope I can make a list as soon as I get to a pc.

[botany]

These stats are wonderful. Feedback on reporting does make a difference.
The flip side is that there could be a lot more discussions on specific moderating decisions.

[Welsh]

Well the more resources, the better. (Not sure if the grammar is correct here). In my link I found other similarities too not only the well known RU/BG Cyrillic. There are letters like S J Y etc. I didn't knew were Cyrillic from Ukrainian, Belarusian, Serbian etc. Hope I can make a list as soon as I get to a pc.

That's true. But, yours had what mine had in it, and more. So wasn't any point really. I was also unaware of the different languages usage of Cyrillic.

[bitart]

It's very interesting to see how many if my reports was marked as bad and how many are unhandled. But I'm wondering why my report history page is empty, I don't see any posts there, just stats. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

I also have an empty reportlist, but I have stopped reporting as soon as my stats has started to decrease.
I'll start to report again and we'll see if my reportlist will show up or not.
Also from now on, we can learn from our reports and have better stats in the end (hopefully).
EDIT: I've reported one, but it only increased the unhandled, no history still

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It takes a lot of time for me to change back all Cyrillic letters back to Latin in order to search for copy/paste posts. It's easier to detect the homographs.

Damn you're good.

Regarding the new stats, I don't get all pumped up because of the posts I've reported--but this is a nice, new feature.  It's encouraging to know that reported posts are taken seriously enough to make something like this, and maybe it'll motivate new people to report the nonsense they see.  And boy are they ever going to see some nonsense. 

I didn't think my report rate would be anywhere near 99%, but it is.  Then again, I've reported a lot of obvious spam and some reports by what seemed to be bots, and those I'm sure were good reports.  But I've also reported run-of-the-mill shitposts that I wasn't sure mods would agree with, much less take action on.  So keep reporting those shitposts, people.  It'll do the forum some good and probably won't affect your report accuracy all that much.  There isn't much to lose.

[hilariousetc]

Well I said I might be, but I've seen bots copy these posts with the foreign characters which are seemingly the original post, but where are the original posts they copy and pasted from?

That's the annoying part: to find the original, you have to actually type it again by yourself. The last one from iasenko's list for instance came from this:

I think there has to be a fine balance, never say never but with the current trends and plethora of project it makes sense to see some evidence that the team has the capability to deliver what has been promised at least a test Alpha of a product.

Some are more difficult to find: I can only find parts of the text. If a bot combines a homograph attack with copying parts of different posts, it is very difficult to prove plagiarism.
I'd say they should all be banned. Using a homograph attack is enough reason to assume bad intentions.

Thought they might be making composites from several posts by changing sentences around and swapping words etc but notice how they changed hardwallets to imToken and a few other things:

I am using hardwallet to protect most of my holdings,using these hardwallets will prevent you from being attacked by these hackers.They are less vulnerable compare to the app and web wallets that has higher risk and prone to these hackers,hardwallets are the most secured type of cryptocurrency storage.I am using ledger nano s for about 2 years and i dont encountered any problem using it.

I am utilizing imToken to protect most of my holdings,using these imToken will prevent you from being attacked by these hackers.they are less vulnerable compare to the web wallets that has higher chance and prone to these hackers,imToken are the most secured type of cryptocurrency storage.I am utilizing imToken for about 3 years now and I dont encountered any problem utilizing it. Unless you open your security to programmers...

Sneaky bastards.



The red lines are almost the same whilst the green has seemingly been changed quite a bit but is obviously based off the original.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Finally found a tool to convert the homographs back to Latin without having to change every single homograph manually. Easy and simple to use
https://2cyr.com/?7
Here is how to use it, because it is in Bulgarian.
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 Test

Before :

I agree, Bitcoin is the first used and the most valuable crypto currency so it is the king of this currencies, it have also the highest price. eTH is the queen because its considered the second crypto currency after BTC and the first valuable altcoin right now.

After :

I agree, Bitcoin is the first used and the most valuable crypto currency so it is the king of this currencies, it have also the highest price. eTH is the queen because its considered the second crypto currency after BTC and the first valuable altcoin right now.

[khufuking]

Once I saw this thread a good idea come to my mind . What you guys think about getting points ( Merit ) for every successful report ! would that work ?

I think it will be good incentive for people and  encourage them  to report bad behavior .

[Welsh]

Once I saw this thread a good idea come to my mind . What you guys think about getting points ( Merit ) for every successful report ! would that work ?

I think it will be good incentive for people and  encourage them  to report bad behavior .

It's been discussed, and there's two reasons why it's a bad idea:

1. Easy to abuse. For example, users creating alt accounts, and purposely posting something which would result in a good report.

2. Merits are suppose to be used for rewarding a high quality post. Merits shouldn't be used for anything other than the measure of a users post quality.

Having a clean forum should be enough of an incentive.

[funsponge]

I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.

I see that all the homograph attacks I reported are note handled yet. Why is that? Do you need more proof for those?

They take time to look into. It's best to include the link to the post they copied which makes things much easier. Otherwise staff have to spend time searching for it and they can't always be found easy.

I don't have a report history or the amount which is good, bad or unhandled so I don't think it's ranked based. I've made a very small amount of reports though so I'm guessing the more in depth stats become available once you've reported over a certain amount of posts.

[InvoKing]

I don't have a report history or the amount which is good, bad or unhandled so I don't think it's ranked based. I've made a very small amount of reports though so I'm guessing the more in depth stats become available once you've reported over a certain amount of posts.

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Edit : @thequin & welsh : yeah probably.

[TheQuin]

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

It was a long time ago now but I remember when I first started reporting that my accuracy stayed on 0% for a while. I guess it might be a minimum sample size required to make a percentage relevant.

[Welsh]

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Potential reasons could be to prevent users who aren't posting regular enough to complain about their reports not being handled or being marked bad which I expressed my concerns about earlier in the thread. Could also be that users who don't report regular don't need access to the in depth data that the regulars do.

[criz2fer]

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Potential reasons could be to prevent users who aren't posting regular enough to complain about their reports not being handled or being marked bad which I expressed my concerns about earlier in the thread. Could also be that users who don't report regular don't need access to the in depth data that the regulars do.

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?
For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)

[LoyceV]

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?

My guess is, more stats will show up when you report enough.

For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)

As the report page says: "Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports."
In other words, it's better to report 10 posts without being 100% sure they're bad, and get 8 of them deleted, than just reporting the one you're absolutely sure about (which means the remaining 7 bad posts aren't deleted).

[criz2fer]

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?

My guess is, more stats will show up when you report enough.

For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)

As the report page says: "Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports."
In other words, it's better to report 10 posts without being 100% sure they're bad, and get 8 of them deleted, than just reporting the one you're absolutely sure about (which means the remaining 7 bad posts aren't deleted).

Meaning, its better to report than never. 

[WelshOnTheRoad]

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?
For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)

Striving towards 100% is a good attitude, but honestly anything more than 60% is considered good. Your nearly there!

I don't know the number of reports you would have to make for it to appear, but I'm assuming you could just watch the posts after reporting them or if you haven't reported that many your accuracy is likely going to fluctuate a lot, and you can judge whats correct or not from that. By the time your percentage doesn't change all that much you'll probably have access to the more in depth stats.

On my main account I have tonnes of bad reports probably the most on the forum don't worry to much about it. The community would prefer you to make reports you are unsure about rather than ignoring a post that requires an action.  

If the deciding factor of reporting a post or not is because of your accuracy you are doing it all wrong. This I'd why moderators are there to review your report and I'm sure they don't mind having bad reports.

[khufuking]

It's been discussed, and there's two reasons why it's a bad idea:

1. Easy to abuse. For example, users creating alt accounts, and purposely posting something which would result in a good report.

Well lets be honest the current Merits system is easy to abuse too , If we go to any local forum right now I can show the amount of Merits that being giving away for just an Ann translation or literally useless posts

2. Merits are suppose to be used for rewarding a high quality post. Merits shouldn't be used for anything other than the measure of a users post quality.

Having a clean forum should be enough of an incentive.

Well I thought Merits is made to fight and reduce the spam on this forums and I think reporting a spam fall under the same category ( Fighting spam ) .

[Welsh]

Well lets be honest the current Merits system is easy to abuse too , If we go to any local forum right now I can show the amount of Merits that being giving away for just an Ann translation or literally useless posts

This isn't always abuse, rather it's misuse of the merit system. Besides, the initial merit people received will run out, and we'll see less signature campaigns, and announcement threads getting merit. Small amounts aren't too bad in the grand scheme of things.

Well I thought Merits is made to fight and reduce the spam on this forums and I think reporting a spam fall under the same category ( Fighting spam ) .

I disagree. I believe merits should be only used for rewarding high quality posts. I'll give you an example why reports are way to easy to get merits. I have 32k reports if that translated into merit it would mean I would be well above even theymos who has received the most merit. Plus, many other members who post technical, informative, and intriguing content which is unfair to them. This would easily be abused too via users posting with brand new newbie accounts, and reporting it with their main accounts.

We would no longer see people contributing to the forum with high quality posts, instead they would setup automatic bots to post, and report the posts. Thus, the merit system would become useless.

 

[onnz423]

I guess I need to step it up... Only 95% accuracy.

Still it's good to show the users some stats about their work, let them know that what they are doing is actually contributing some value to the forum.

Would be nice to also see a breakdown of who had the most accurate reports, could be like a competition (perhaps to decide the next mod?)

[Welsh]

I guess I need to step it up... Only 95% accuracy.

Still it's good to show the users some stats about their work, let them know that what they are doing is actually contributing some value to the forum.

Would be nice to also see a breakdown of who had the most accurate reports, could be like a competition (perhaps to decide the next mod?)

This is the most recent update(8 months ago):

All time:

Code:

+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+
| realName           | good  | bad | unhandled | accuracy |
+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+
| Lutpin             | 11008 | 167 |       334 |   0.9851 |
| shorena            | 10423 | 359 |       524 |   0.9667 |
| Cyrus              |  4641 | 170 |        90 |   0.9647 |
| botany             |  4568 | 159 |       220 |   0.9664 |
| xandry             |  4271 |  89 |        91 |   0.9796 |
| xhomerx10          |  4098 |  65 |       184 |   0.9844 |
| mexxer-2           |  3936 |  80 |        71 |   0.9801 |
| Foxpup             |  3719 |  21 |        99 |   0.9944 |
| EFS                |  3597 |  74 |       171 |   0.9798 |
| rickbig41          |  3321 |  46 |       367 |   0.9863 |
| Quickseller        |  2982 | 130 |       173 |   0.9582 |
| mprep              |  2794 | 120 |       159 |   0.9588 |
| hilariousandco     |  2723 |  82 |        30 |   0.9708 |
| TheButterZone      |  2430 | 230 |        97 |   0.9135 |
| DannyHamilton      |  2425 |  31 |       111 |   0.9874 |
| Welsh              |  2213 |  42 |        20 |   0.9814 |
| achow101           |  1847 |  29 |        47 |   0.9845 |
| redsn0w            |  1786 | 276 |       118 |   0.8661 |
| -ck                |  1756 |  26 |        14 |   0.9854 |
| subSTRATA          |  1633 |  58 |       121 |   0.9657 |
| mitzie             |  1526 |  65 |        32 |   0.9591 |
| dbshck             |  1523 |  14 |         9 |   0.9909 |
| deadley            |  1495 |  79 |        16 |   0.9498 |
| SFR10              |  1417 |   5 |        14 |   0.9965 |
| EcuaMobi           |  1370 |  13 |        17 |   0.9906 |
| malevolent         |  1317 |  37 |        18 |   0.9727 |
| --Encrypted--      |  1268 |  23 |        28 |   0.9822 |
| tmfp               |  1230 |  39 |        22 |   0.9693 |
| Lauda              |  1197 |  22 |        66 |   0.9820 |
| suchmoon           |  1111 | 119 |       172 |   0.9033 |
| Vod                |  1110 |  17 |        23 |   0.9849 |
| okae               |  1063 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| OmegaStarScream    |  1060 |  17 |        14 |   0.9842 |
| railzand           |   965 |  61 |         3 |   0.9405 |
| mocacinno          |   955 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| austin             |   896 |  46 |         0 |   0.9512 |
| Mitchell           |   895 |  36 |       118 |   0.9613 |
| Muhammed Zakir     |   877 |  71 |        89 |   0.9251 |
| unamis76           |   852 |   2 |         7 |   0.9977 |
| NLNico             |   779 |  20 |         8 |   0.9750 |
| MissCrypto         |   773 |  18 |        14 |   0.9772 |
| xetsr              |   750 |  47 |        44 |   0.9410 |
| dogie              |   725 | 215 |       109 |   0.7713 |
| KWH                |   705 |  72 |        51 |   0.9073 |
| Chris!             |   696 |  37 |        31 |   0.9495 |
| grv                |   677 |  16 |       946 |   0.9769 |
| dihydrogenmonoxide |   647 | 159 |        87 |   0.8027 |
| pedrog             |   643 |   5 |         5 |   0.9923 |
| ocminer            |   617 |  33 |         6 |   0.9492 |
| cr1776             |   606 |  12 |        10 |   0.9806 |
+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+

Last 120 days:

Code:

+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+
| realName            | good | bad | unhandled | accuracy |
+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+
| rickbig41           | 1535 |  24 |       248 |   0.9846 |
| xandry              | 1208 |  25 |         2 |   0.9797 |
| xhomerx10           |  542 |   9 |        31 |   0.9837 |
| Foxpup              |  401 |   2 |        30 |   0.9950 |
| DannyHamilton       |  363 |   7 |        32 |   0.9811 |
| Lutpin              |  341 |   7 |        32 |   0.9799 |
| grv                 |  306 |   6 |       540 |   0.9808 |
| subSTRATA           |  269 |   3 |        18 |   0.9890 |
| mprep               |  248 |   1 |        27 |   0.9960 |
| frodocooper         |  191 |   4 |         5 |   0.9795 |
| The Pharmacist      |  176 |   2 |        20 |   0.9888 |
| -ck                 |  155 |   0 |         4 |   1.0000 |
| EFS                 |  154 |   0 |        14 |   1.0000 |
| vizito              |  145 |   4 |         4 |   0.9732 |
| MissCrypto          |  137 |   0 |        13 |   1.0000 |
| HI-TEC99            |  136 |   1 |         3 |   0.9927 |
| dbshck              |  134 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| OmegaStarScream     |  131 |   1 |         5 |   0.9924 |
| fxpc                |  130 |  42 |        36 |   0.7558 |
| bL4nkcode           |  123 |   9 |        12 |   0.9318 |
| PauloLauro          |  122 | 106 |         3 |   0.5351 |
| Flying Hellfish     |  109 |  10 |         1 |   0.9160 |
| shorena             |  106 |   5 |        12 |   0.9550 |
| Vadi2323            |  105 |  19 |         3 |   0.8468 |
| Meuh6879            |   99 |   4 |         5 |   0.9612 |
| achow101            |   97 |   0 |         4 |   1.0000 |
| Pearls Before Swine |   97 |  11 |         7 |   0.8981 |
| mocacinno           |   86 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| Kubra Dam           |   85 |  13 |         0 |   0.8673 |
| NotFuzzyWarm        |   85 |   2 |         7 |   0.9770 |
| Quickseller         |   83 |   1 |        12 |   0.9881 |
| Mitchell            |   81 |   3 |        17 |   0.9643 |
| Here4Trades         |   78 |   1 |         7 |   0.9873 |
| Joel_Jantsen        |   77 |   3 |        10 |   0.9625 |
| Vod                 |   72 |   0 |         6 |   1.0000 |
| P E K K A           |   71 |  24 |         2 |   0.7474 |
| Blackshadow007      |   68 |   5 |         0 |   0.9315 |
| Byte16              |   66 |   7 |         0 |   0.9041 |
| instacalm           |   66 |   5 |         2 |   0.9296 |
| AT101ET             |   64 |   1 |         0 |   0.9846 |
| odolvlobo           |   62 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| sweetdesirez        |   61 |   3 |         4 |   0.9531 |
| sbogovac            |   61 |   1 |        21 |   0.9839 |
| pooya87             |   59 |   0 |         9 |   1.0000 |
| Lauda               |   59 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| nydiacaskey01       |   58 |   2 |         1 |   0.9667 |
| 110110101           |   57 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| richardivan         |   55 |   7 |         2 |   0.8871 |
| suchmoon            |   54 |   3 |         4 |   0.9474 |
| LeGaulois           |   53 |   2 |         1 |   0.9636 |
+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+

Thanks a lot to all active reporters!

These stats have likely changed dramatically since then though.

[khufuking]

Well lets be honest the current Merits system is easy to abuse too , If we go to any local forum right now I can show the amount of Merits that being giving away for just an Ann translation or literally useless posts

This isn't always abuse, rather it's misuse of the merit system. Besides, the initial merit people received will run out, and we'll see less signature campaigns, and announcement threads getting merit. Small amounts aren't too bad in the grand scheme of things.

  Well when you see someone give other 20+ Merits for just a translation post and the person rewarded the Merits replied by with 20+ Merit to a totally useless post ( All I see here is abuse yes both might be 2 different persons but for me it is not different from making new accounts and report them ) exchange Merit is against the rules ,  Abuse is abuse in all forms   .

I disagree. I believe merits should be only used for rewarding high quality posts. I'll give you an example why reports are way to easy to get merits. I have 32k reports if that translated into merit it would mean I would be well above even theymos who has received the most merit. Plus, many other members who post technical, informative, and intriguing content which is unfair to them.

I totally agree 100% with this point , and yes this point alone is enough to not reward Merits for reports . 

[Welsh]

Well when you see someone give other 20+ Merits for just a translation post and the person rewarded the Merits replied by with 20+ Merit to a totally useless post ( All I see here is abuse yes both might be 2 different persons but for me it is not different from making new accounts and report them ) exchange Merit is against the rules ,  Abuse is abuse in all forms .

Yeah, your obviously referring to a specific scenario here, but if there isn't any trading back, and forth then it might not be abuse. It's annoying to see people send their merit to scam ICOs, or plain bad altcoin announcements, but I can't blame them for doing it if they believe in it.

[botany]

I guess I need to step it up... Only 95% accuracy.

Still it's good to show the users some stats about their work, let them know that what they are doing is actually contributing some value to the forum.

Would be nice to also see a breakdown of who had the most accurate reports, could be like a competition (perhaps to decide the next mod?)

I think the days of choosing a moderator by their reporting stats is well and truly over.
Too many other factors at play - whether there is a requirement, what time of the day moderators are required, etc.

[bitart]

Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

Potential reasons could be to prevent users who aren't posting regular enough to complain about their reports not being handled or being marked bad which I expressed my concerns about earlier in the thread. Could also be that users who don't report regular don't need access to the in depth data that the regulars do.

Agreed to some of extent, but how about include them also?
For example, I want to improve my reporting to have a 100% and my reports are 50% bad. How could I improve it without seeing it?(Just an idea because I would like to report regularly once I bump into one of them)

I had also missed the 'Your report history' link, but I've started to report spam from the Bitcoin Discussion topic 3 days ago (with nearly 0 report count that time). I haven't really paid attention for the number of the reports so close, so I can only guess that the magic number is somewhere around 300 reports, because today I'm over 300 and the 'Your report history' link has appeared. It's good to see which posts were reported in vain...

[Welsh]

I had also missed the 'Your report history' link, but I've started to report spam from the Bitcoin Discussion topic 3 days ago (with nearly 0 report count that time). I haven't really paid attention for the number of the reports so close, so I can only guess that the magic number is somewhere around 300 reports, because today I'm over 300 and the 'Your report history' link has appeared. It's good to see which posts were reported in vain...

Strange number, but I guess it's been implemented to prevent those who only report now, and again from moaning about their reports being bad. Seems to be working so far as I've not seen any complaints.

[botany]

I had also missed the 'Your report history' link, but I've started to report spam from the Bitcoin Discussion topic 3 days ago (with nearly 0 report count that time). I haven't really paid attention for the number of the reports so close, so I can only guess that the magic number is somewhere around 300 reports, because today I'm over 300 and the 'Your report history' link has appeared. It's good to see which posts were reported in vain...

300 reports in 3 days is not bad at all.
There does not seem to be any logic for that the report history link not appearing for those who have made fewer reports...

[funsponge]

I had also missed the 'Your report history' link, but I've started to report spam from the Bitcoin Discussion topic 3 days ago (with nearly 0 report count that time). I haven't really paid attention for the number of the reports so close, so I can only guess that the magic number is somewhere around 300 reports, because today I'm over 300 and the 'Your report history' link has appeared. It's good to see which posts were reported in vain...

300 reports in 3 days is not bad at all.
There does not seem to be any logic for that the report history link not appearing for those who have made fewer reports...

300 reports is very good and I think Bitcoin discussion could do with a new mod! I think there's some logic in restricting who can see in depth stats about reports as I doubt those who don't report much would use it or need it and it would just affect the speed of the forum if it was available to everyone.

[bitart]

...
300 reports in 3 days is not bad at all.
...

Thanks
Well, you can imagine, it's easy to get used to it pretty soon
When I was about to reply to your post I've clicked the 'Report to Mod' link first below your post instead of the Quote button (realized it in time of course )
I have to find the healthy balance between the amount of reporting and replying

[TheQuin]

I have to find the healthy balance between the amount of reporting and replying

I think personally it's somewhere around 50%. Whenever I've reported more posts than I've written I think it's time to take a break and do something else for the rest of the day.

The thing I'm finding most useful about the report history page is I don't have to spend time trying to find things in the modlog to know what happened. I've never really known whether what I consider to be a shitpost is worth reporting, but so far every one I have done has been deleted.

[marlboroza]

52 bad, 208 unhandled

I don't know which reports are unhandled obviously it was waste of time reporting them. 
There are few reports marked as bad - but posts are removed, i guess reports should be marked good? Strange.

Anyway, it is good update, I like stats 

[funsponge]

52 bad, 208 unhandled

I don't know which reports are unhandled obviously it was waste of time reporting them. 
There are few reports marked as bad - but posts are removed, i guess reports should be marked good? Strange.

Anyway, it is good update, I like stats 

Did the thread get deleted? or maybe you reported them for the wrong reasons but were removed for a different reason? It might of got marked bad but later on the thread was deleted.

[botany]

I think personally it's somewhere around 50%. Whenever I've reported more posts than I've written I think it's time to take a break and do something else for the rest of the day.

The thing I'm finding most useful about the report history page is I don't have to spend time trying to find things in the modlog to know what happened. I've never really known whether what I consider to be a shitpost is worth reporting, but so far every one I have done has been deleted.

I still check the modlog to find out about permabans. 
For the subtle reports (say wrong boards), you would largely not find out whether a report was good or bad, unless you went to that very topic again. Now it is very simple.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Does someone have a table of these characters? I can automatically convert non-standard characters to ASCII.

Any updates here? The last time I checked / few days ago/there was no change.

[hilariousetc]

I guess I need to step it up... Only 95% accuracy.

Still it's good to show the users some stats about their work, let them know that what they are doing is actually contributing some value to the forum.

Would be nice to also see a breakdown of who had the most accurate reports, could be like a competition (perhaps to decide the next mod?)

This is the most recent update(8 months ago):

All time:

Code:

+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+
| realName           | good  | bad | unhandled | accuracy |
+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+
| Lutpin             | 11008 | 167 |       334 |   0.9851 |
| shorena            | 10423 | 359 |       524 |   0.9667 |
| Cyrus              |  4641 | 170 |        90 |   0.9647 |
| botany             |  4568 | 159 |       220 |   0.9664 |
| xandry             |  4271 |  89 |        91 |   0.9796 |
| xhomerx10          |  4098 |  65 |       184 |   0.9844 |
| mexxer-2           |  3936 |  80 |        71 |   0.9801 |
| Foxpup             |  3719 |  21 |        99 |   0.9944 |
| EFS                |  3597 |  74 |       171 |   0.9798 |
| rickbig41          |  3321 |  46 |       367 |   0.9863 |
| Quickseller        |  2982 | 130 |       173 |   0.9582 |
| mprep              |  2794 | 120 |       159 |   0.9588 |
| hilariousandco     |  2723 |  82 |        30 |   0.9708 |
| TheButterZone      |  2430 | 230 |        97 |   0.9135 |
| DannyHamilton      |  2425 |  31 |       111 |   0.9874 |
| Welsh              |  2213 |  42 |        20 |   0.9814 |
| achow101           |  1847 |  29 |        47 |   0.9845 |
| redsn0w            |  1786 | 276 |       118 |   0.8661 |
| -ck                |  1756 |  26 |        14 |   0.9854 |
| subSTRATA          |  1633 |  58 |       121 |   0.9657 |
| mitzie             |  1526 |  65 |        32 |   0.9591 |
| dbshck             |  1523 |  14 |         9 |   0.9909 |
| deadley            |  1495 |  79 |        16 |   0.9498 |
| SFR10              |  1417 |   5 |        14 |   0.9965 |
| EcuaMobi           |  1370 |  13 |        17 |   0.9906 |
| malevolent         |  1317 |  37 |        18 |   0.9727 |
| --Encrypted--      |  1268 |  23 |        28 |   0.9822 |
| tmfp               |  1230 |  39 |        22 |   0.9693 |
| Lauda              |  1197 |  22 |        66 |   0.9820 |
| suchmoon           |  1111 | 119 |       172 |   0.9033 |
| Vod                |  1110 |  17 |        23 |   0.9849 |
| okae               |  1063 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| OmegaStarScream    |  1060 |  17 |        14 |   0.9842 |
| railzand           |   965 |  61 |         3 |   0.9405 |
| mocacinno          |   955 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| austin             |   896 |  46 |         0 |   0.9512 |
| Mitchell           |   895 |  36 |       118 |   0.9613 |
| Muhammed Zakir     |   877 |  71 |        89 |   0.9251 |
| unamis76           |   852 |   2 |         7 |   0.9977 |
| NLNico             |   779 |  20 |         8 |   0.9750 |
| MissCrypto         |   773 |  18 |        14 |   0.9772 |
| xetsr              |   750 |  47 |        44 |   0.9410 |
| dogie              |   725 | 215 |       109 |   0.7713 |
| KWH                |   705 |  72 |        51 |   0.9073 |
| Chris!             |   696 |  37 |        31 |   0.9495 |
| grv                |   677 |  16 |       946 |   0.9769 |
| dihydrogenmonoxide |   647 | 159 |        87 |   0.8027 |
| pedrog             |   643 |   5 |         5 |   0.9923 |
| ocminer            |   617 |  33 |         6 |   0.9492 |
| cr1776             |   606 |  12 |        10 |   0.9806 |
+--------------------+-------+-----+-----------+----------+

Last 120 days:

Code:

+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+
| realName            | good | bad | unhandled | accuracy |
+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+
| rickbig41           | 1535 |  24 |       248 |   0.9846 |
| xandry              | 1208 |  25 |         2 |   0.9797 |
| xhomerx10           |  542 |   9 |        31 |   0.9837 |
| Foxpup              |  401 |   2 |        30 |   0.9950 |
| DannyHamilton       |  363 |   7 |        32 |   0.9811 |
| Lutpin              |  341 |   7 |        32 |   0.9799 |
| grv                 |  306 |   6 |       540 |   0.9808 |
| subSTRATA           |  269 |   3 |        18 |   0.9890 |
| mprep               |  248 |   1 |        27 |   0.9960 |
| frodocooper         |  191 |   4 |         5 |   0.9795 |
| The Pharmacist      |  176 |   2 |        20 |   0.9888 |
| -ck                 |  155 |   0 |         4 |   1.0000 |
| EFS                 |  154 |   0 |        14 |   1.0000 |
| vizito              |  145 |   4 |         4 |   0.9732 |
| MissCrypto          |  137 |   0 |        13 |   1.0000 |
| HI-TEC99            |  136 |   1 |         3 |   0.9927 |
| dbshck              |  134 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| OmegaStarScream     |  131 |   1 |         5 |   0.9924 |
| fxpc                |  130 |  42 |        36 |   0.7558 |
| bL4nkcode           |  123 |   9 |        12 |   0.9318 |
| PauloLauro          |  122 | 106 |         3 |   0.5351 |
| Flying Hellfish     |  109 |  10 |         1 |   0.9160 |
| shorena             |  106 |   5 |        12 |   0.9550 |
| Vadi2323            |  105 |  19 |         3 |   0.8468 |
| Meuh6879            |   99 |   4 |         5 |   0.9612 |
| achow101            |   97 |   0 |         4 |   1.0000 |
| Pearls Before Swine |   97 |  11 |         7 |   0.8981 |
| mocacinno           |   86 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| Kubra Dam           |   85 |  13 |         0 |   0.8673 |
| NotFuzzyWarm        |   85 |   2 |         7 |   0.9770 |
| Quickseller         |   83 |   1 |        12 |   0.9881 |
| Mitchell            |   81 |   3 |        17 |   0.9643 |
| Here4Trades         |   78 |   1 |         7 |   0.9873 |
| Joel_Jantsen        |   77 |   3 |        10 |   0.9625 |
| Vod                 |   72 |   0 |         6 |   1.0000 |
| P E K K A           |   71 |  24 |         2 |   0.7474 |
| Blackshadow007      |   68 |   5 |         0 |   0.9315 |
| Byte16              |   66 |   7 |         0 |   0.9041 |
| instacalm           |   66 |   5 |         2 |   0.9296 |
| AT101ET             |   64 |   1 |         0 |   0.9846 |
| odolvlobo           |   62 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| sweetdesirez        |   61 |   3 |         4 |   0.9531 |
| sbogovac            |   61 |   1 |        21 |   0.9839 |
| pooya87             |   59 |   0 |         9 |   1.0000 |
| Lauda               |   59 |   0 |         1 |   1.0000 |
| nydiacaskey01       |   58 |   2 |         1 |   0.9667 |
| 110110101           |   57 |   0 |         0 |   1.0000 |
| richardivan         |   55 |   7 |         2 |   0.8871 |
| suchmoon            |   54 |   3 |         4 |   0.9474 |
| LeGaulois           |   53 |   2 |         1 |   0.9636 |
+---------------------+------+-----+-----------+----------+

Thanks a lot to all active reporters!

These stats have likely changed dramatically since then though.

Are these still the most recent updates on the reporters?

Theymos, could you give us the updated ones for both all time and the past 90/120 days or whatever when you get chance?

For those interested these are the one for Bitcoin Discussion:

Good reports, last 90 days:

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| realName              | rcount |
+-----------------------+--------+
| krishnapramod         |   1255 |
| bitart                |    609 |
| stompix               |    349 |
| pooya87               |    299 |
| OmegaStarScream       |    238 |
| Welsh                 |    205 |
| xhomerx10             |    189 |
| bitcoin revo          |    186 |
| TheQuin               |    148 |
| bitperson             |    135 |
| Lutpin                |    127 |
| LeGaulois             |    117 |
| ralle14               |    116 |
| qwk                   |    103 |