17.2TH/s, 1570W Innosilicon announces the most powerful and efficient BTC Miner

[Inno_ASIC]

You're right on everything but the bolded, underlined, and italicized line.

Hey are you against asic boost ?

yes or no.

bitmain has hidden asic boost not saying they use it but I am saying it was hidden.

do you agree yes or no?

Inno_silicon has  asic boost and it is not hidden now it is in use.  this means bitmain can no longer use hidden asic boost (not saying they did use it)
  just saying they have it and they hid it.

So bitmain the king of asic gear finally got fucked over by another company and you are against that company

so please explain to me how you are not for bitmain when you are against asic boost.?

I am willing to listen to an explanation if you have one.

If you go back to my first post in this thread

Is it same chip as the Halong T1 correct?
Will -ck provide firmware to this gear?
Does it only mine BTC?
Is it limited to 5 pools?

I would love to demo one for you if you answer my 4 questions. Above
I don't mind being  limited to the 5 pools above as long as I know this before I buy it.

I don't mind the pool limits because I know all pools will switch to asic boost except for antpool and btc.com

and this is an effective way to attack bitmain.

Thank you philipma1957! Rarely anyone see the truth like you after doing so much reading here! My hat to you for making the thoughtful comments.

Inno is here to listen and make miners, ASIC and services better to help decentralization and break monopoly. In the past, no one beat bitmain in ASIC performance and that is big part of reason why you saw a monopoly. Now Inno makes every ASIC better in every coin to help decentralization. The only thing they did was selling under their cost. $2K miners became $500 to continue short term squeeze of competition. That is fine, we don't mind they selling under their cost. But on the other hand, you should know why they are doing this. It is no charity.  Inno is the progressive force here to stay and help. We reduced our price to help, we are producing better miners every month. It is a huge amount of effort we are making, no matter making money or not, it is not for market monopoly, it is to break it. Inno is a good company with great engineers trying to be better everyday. Respect that please!

BTW, if you go visit www.innosilion.com, we update our price and promotions, AB inside, no question, any SHA256 coins it can mine, we have more pools joining, Poolin is the latest one, we are doing our best to create better ASIC everyday, you can count on our commitment.

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[minefarmbuy]

Thank you philipma1957! Rarely anyone see the truth like you after doing so much reading here! My hat to you for making the thoughtful comments.

Inno is here to listen and make miners, ASIC and services better to help decentralization and break monopoly. In the past, no one beat bitmain in ASIC performance and that is big part of reason why you saw a monopoly. Now Inno makes every ASIC better in every coin to help decentralization. The only thing they did was selling under their cost. $2K miners became $500 to continue short term squeeze of competition. That is fine, we don't mind they selling under their cost. But on the other hand, you should know why they are doing this. It is no charity.  Inno is the progressive force here to stay and help. We reduced our price to help, we are producing better miners every month. It is a huge amount of effort we are making, no matter making money or not, it is not for market monopoly, it is to break it. Inno is a good company with great engineers trying to be better everyday. Respect that please!

BTW, if you go visit www.innosilion.com, we update our price and promotions, AB inside, no question, any SHA256 coins it can mine, we have more pools joining, Poolin is the latest one, we are doing our best to create better ASIC everyday, you can count on our commitment.

$1.1k is fair price for these units, consumers always want best deal though. Not good business to sell at a loss but appreciate the competition and the diversity to our listings none the less. Been easy working with Innosilicon, we would love testing units our tech team writes talking points for inquires that occur very often.

[Rabinovitch]

I won't be having a Innosilicon T2 for review, bought or for free,
their business policy is bad for the community and I also have bad personal experience with them..

Well, it seems that there are no reviews of T2 miner, so I'll make one for the community.

Inno is here to listen and make miners, ASIC and services better to help decentralization and break monopoly
we are doing our best to create better ASIC everyday

Really? What miner software is used in your T2 miner? Does it has any coinbase transaction size limit (like bmminer S9s do) which can prevent T2 work with p2pool normally?

Also, why there are only 2 PCI-E 6pin connectors on each hashing board? Are 3 connectors too much?

Also, why the controller is powered with 2 connectors, PCI-E 6pin 12V for fans and some strange atypical (as for ASIC miners) 4pin connector with different voltages for FPGA? In case of PSU failure the owners of T2 will not be able to simply take any appropriate server PSU and put their miners back into work. They will need an original PSU for replacement. Or they will need to invent something to bypass this constraint...

[-ck]

Really? What miner software is used in your T2 miner? Does it has any coinbase transaction size limit (like bmminer S9s do) which can prevent T2 work with p2pool normally?

If I may chime in, last I checked, the T2 driver and software is based on the T1 software, although I'm not contracted to work on it. Which means it is based on master cgminer code, there are no limitations to coinbase size, but it is asicboost dependent. The T1 works exceptionally well on p2pool, and unless they've screwed something up since the T1 driver, this should too. That doesn't mean I'm recommending this hardware in any way shape or form, just answering your specific questions.

[philipma1957]

As of now I will be waiting on the T2 turbo vs the T2

I may be getting  two other miners

from different companies

an Avalon 851

and a Pangolin M10

I like the T1  and ck's firmware did help it work well.

Plain facts are this Innosilicon has more efficient miners then  bitmain.

They cost more  since bitmain is flooding the markets with cheap miners

If your power cost it very cheap  bitmain works for you.

If you don't have really cheap power innosilicon  is a better choice.

I would be interested in the turbo version of the T2 when it is released.

[minefarmbuy]

Pretty much sum it up the philipma.

Has there bee press on 851?

Can't be to far off from the T2 turbo I believe but isn't the m10 more efficient? Waiting another month for a great upgrade minimum would be in almost everyone interest.

I'll the numbers from the other thread.

[Rabinovitch]

just answering your specific questions.

Thanx CK.

Another surprising fact about T2. You can not change the direction of the air flow by flipping the fans. Firstly, the guarantee seal doesn't allow you to unscrew the front fan (what if I need to replace it?). Secondly, in case you flipped the fans, the miner begins to behave strangely. Judging by the logs, something inside the miner overheats up to 95 C, and the miner sets the fans to 100% speed periodically. 

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Another surprising fact about T2. You can not change the direction of the air flow by flipping the fans. Firstly, the guarantee seal doesn't allow you to unscrew the front fan (what if I need to replace it?). Secondly, in case you flipped the fans, the miner begins to behave strangely. Judging by the logs, something inside the miner overheats up to 95 C, and the miner sets the fans to 100% speed periodically. 

Why is it surprising? Miners are laid out with airflow and resulting interior temps in mind. Of course changing the direction makes them unhappy...
As for the Warranty seal -- if the fan dies, contact the mfgr and get approval (and a new fan from them) to replace it. Easy peasy.

[minefarmbuy]

Yea, the best comment I could come up with was; "Want to reverse the air flow? Turn the unit around.".

[-ck]

Yea, the best comment I could come up with was; "Want to reverse the air flow? Turn the unit around.".

absolutly brilliant answer.  he was probably thinking of something more complex than that. anyway, i was looking over the specs and i did not find anywere any reference to the noise this baby is making. can anyone tell me how much noise one of this things is making ? i live in an apartment and i cannot stand to much noise.

It's just like a T1 with the myrig PSU stuck to the side, meaning it is loud, fucking loud, think vacuum cleaner. In efficient mode it's tolerable... if it's on the other side of a big house behind lots of doors, think hairdryer.

[Inno_ASIC]

Innosilicon's Bitcoin ASIC powered by Samsung’s Low Power FinFET technology to achieve record breaking performance

[Hong Kong, China] – JULY [31], 2018 — Press Release:  Innosilicon, designer of the industry leading crypto currency mining ASIC products, today announced that it has achieved a industry record breaking performance in its Terminator Sha256 Bitcoin mining ASIC series, utilizing Samsung Foundry’s advanced low-power FinFET technology. This ASIC, with a stunning 63W/TH performance on chip, 75W/TH at the wall (25 degree ambient), is currently in mass production and available right away to power a new generation of Bitcoin mining equipments with record breaking energy efficiency. With a complete portfolio of crypto currency ASIC products covering Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, ZCash, Decred, SIA, Dash, and Cryptonight featuring full custom design and innovative dynamic temperature frequency scaling for optimal performance and reliability, Innosilicon is the one stop shop leader in delivering the most advanced crypto mining ASIC solutions using Samsung Foundry’s cutting edge foundry process technologies.

The current Innosilicon Bitcoin mining ASIC has already been used in the most power efficient miner, known as Terminator2 Miner with 17.2TH at 1430W+10%. The newly updated T2-Turbo miner offers enhanced 24TH/s performance per a small tube in normal mode and its power consumption can go as low as 75W/TH at the wall in low-power mode, easily 30% better than the closest competing products in the market. Its latest ZCash mining equipment is up to thirty times more efficient than GPUs. Innosilicon new innovative Ethereum Mining product A10 is set to be a few times more efficient than other ETH Miners in the market.
 
“We are very pleased to provide the upmost low-power solution to Smart Server through Innosilicon to ensure very competitive equipment life time,” said Ryan Sanghyun Lee, vice president of Foundry Marketing Team at Samsung Electronics. "We believe that Innosilicon's T2 Bitcoin mining ASIC, based on Samsung's advanced low power FinFET process, will offer differentiated value to its customers with notable benefits of power efficiency and high-performance.”

“By Collaborating with Samsung Foundry and leveraging its the-state-of-the-art FinFET technology, we are able to deliver a premier next generation Bitcoin mining ASIC that meets the needs of the most demanding user under any market conditions. With today's sharp hash rate growth, the Terminator2 ASIC with its unsurpassed efficiency provides much lower operational risk and much higher ROI over the next 12 to 24 months over the existing generation” said Roger Mao, Vice President of Engineering, Innosilicon. “Improving power efficiency by as much as 30% is nothing short of phenomenal in today's competitive market. Innosilicon has chosen Samsung Foundry because of the outstanding process technology and its extremely solid engineering and production support. Innosilicon and Samsung will go a long way as good partners to deliver many more exciting low power products in the market in the coming years”

The Innosilicon T2-17.2TH and T2-Turbo-24TH featuring the latest ASIC is available right away from Hong Kong. Demo will be available in a worldwide roadshow which covers Japan, China, Russia, USA and Canada among others. Innosilicon is opening up all its latest custom ASIC with software/hardware reference design for interested OEM/ODM buyers to support decentralization and miner DIY (Do It Yourself). Innosilicon also welcomes upstream and downstream suppliers such as power companies, mining farms and institutional investors to join its ROI collaboration programs by taking advantage of its various efficient miners to form a healthy win-win ecosystem.

About Innosilicon
Innosilicon is the worldwide one stop shop industry leader in high speed interface IP and cryptography mining ASIC Miners for Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, ZCash, Decred, SIA, Dash, Cryptonight and other leading digital currencies. Innosilicon's mining equipment and ASIC is unsurpassed in performance worldwide. The HK based company's innovative approach and hardware allows for a new ASIC to be launched every three months. For more information, visit the Company’s Web site at www.innosilicon.com or email us at info@innosilicon.com.
 
About Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. inspires the world and shapes the future with transformative ideas and technologies. The company is redefining the worlds of TVs, smartphones, wearable devices, tablets, digital appliances, network systems, and memory, system LSI, foundry and LED solutions. For the latest news, please visit the Samsung Newsroom at news.samsung.com.
 
About Samsung Foundry
Samsung Foundry, the foundry business unit of Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., has been providing top-notch technology offerings and solutions to support global fabless and IDM semiconductor companies.
For more information about Samsung Foundry, please visit www.samsungfoundry.com.

From: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/27.html

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Innosilicon is opening up all its latest custom ASIC with software/hardware reference design for interested OEM/ODM buyers to support decentralization and miner DIY (Do It Yourself).

THAT is very interesting and almost a throwback to the A1 days when Inno was more than happy to sell chips. You folks should contact Sidehack....

[philipma1957]

THAT is very interesting and almost a throwback to the A1 days when Inno was more than happy to sell chips. You folks should contact Sidehack....

Would be nice  even if they use Asic boost I would love to get a sidehack project going.

[minefarmbuy]

Now all we need are pricing and release dates.

Got it. Looks like a late August release. $1500 per T2 Turbo.

[sidehack]

Definitely interesting. Gonna follow up on that, thanks for the lead Fuzzy.

[Inno_ASIC]

24TH/s, 1980W, the world most powerful and efficient BTC Miner---INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner ready for mass shipment! Shipment will be arranged from 15th August after payment confirmation. First pay, first served! Buy now from http://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-miner/index.html

[Biodom]

Thanks.
Great technical achievement, thanks for pulling it off.

Two points:
1. Why not 1000-1200W PSU and a 12th miner below? With almost 2kw in a small space, I don't know how it works in tight spaces of most hosts.
I suggest to make such turbo-mini (12th), it might become a surprisingly good seller.

2. It works for those with 5c/kwh, it is touch and go for those with 5-8c/kwh, it is not price efficient for 9c/kwh and above (at these btc prices).

[Rabinovitch]

Why is it surprising? Miners are laid out with airflow and resulting interior temps in mind. Of course changing the direction makes them unhappy...

You could freely make this with S7, for example, and S7 performed well for years after that without any problems at all.

As for the Warranty seal -- if the fan dies, contact the mfgr and get approval (and a new fan from them) to replace it. Easy peasy.

Anyway it's a little stupid, don't you think? Should I wait for 2-3 weeks for new fan from Innosilicon? Or I just can take any of my spare fans from the shelf and just put the miner back to work?

Yea, the best comment I could come up with was; "Want to reverse the air flow? Turn the unit around.".

Well, sometimes when you really need to reverse the airflow, you may also want the status led to be still visible... That's why I flip the fans sometimes. Not on every miner I use.

24TH/s, 1980W, the world most powerful and efficient BTC Miner---INNOSILICON T2 Turbo(T2T) Miner ready for mass shipment! Shipment will be arranged from 15th August after payment confirmation. First pay, first served! Buy now from http://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-miner/index.html

Yeah, that's exciting.

2 points:

1) Are the wires from PSU connected directly to the hashing boards? I can't see any PCIe connectors on the photos.
2) The PSU is "custom" again, i.e. you can't take any of spare server PSUS 2+ kWt and replace it in case of failure? Why? Was there any strong need to do this? Apart from your desire to sell us these power supplies ...

[faheshang]

Price on these is 1350 USD but bitcoin price is .200853 which currently is around 1535 USD. Looks like their jacking up the price by almost 200 USD when you use BTC to pay.
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-miner/index.html

[minefarmbuy]

Price on these is 1350 USD but bitcoin price is .200853 which currently is around 1535 USD. Looks like their jacking up the price by almost 200 USD when you use BTC to pay.
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/t2t-miner/index.html

Might be the shipping cost you're seeing?