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[FanEagle]

my last sentence was most in general, but the other issue is, is coingaming able to insert probably fairness to all their games?
I enjoy a couple games that are in fiat too, but Idk why seems so hard to add the bitcoin priovably fairness.

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[Repunza]

Hey don't treat Arthur bad! He tries his best to offer support,and if he knows he doesn't has the button it doesn't have it.
You wanna play there? Ok,you don't great,don't.

I'm not treating him badly. I clicked the "thumbs up" and left a positive comment. He's doing a great job, telling the truth and admitting that the casino's advertising is misleading. I salute him for doing what's right rather than trying to cover up for the casino.

Whether I want to play there or not isn't the issue. The issue is that the casino clearly understands what provable fairness is, made a page saying how great it is, claims on that page that their games are provably fair, but in fact they aren't. That's a problem. Why would they do that?

I have to agree with you... They do plenty of false advertisements. The rep here has been saying they was going to implement a wager counter for nearly a year now. Every time you ask him. Its always next month...

[WalkerIVIV]

Hey don't treat Arthur bad! He tries his best to offer support,and if he knows he doesn't has the button it doesn't have it.
You wanna play there? Ok,you don't great,don't.

I'm not treating him badly. I clicked the "thumbs up" and left a positive comment. He's doing a great job, telling the truth and admitting that the casino's advertising is misleading. I salute him for doing what's right rather than trying to cover up for the casino.

Whether I want to play there or not isn't the issue. The issue is that the casino clearly understands what provable fairness is, made a page saying how great it is, claims on that page that their games are provably fair, but in fact they aren't. That's a problem. Why would they do that?

You should think about what are you writing. Provably fair, provably fair, provably fair BLABLABLA ... this games are from providers that can confirm your bet is provably fair and this is THE MOST PROVABLY FAIR OPTION becouse casino who "host" these machines cannot influence their fairness

PS. I'm not defending them I only point what I know .. I believe bitcasino is a scam

[FanEagle]

only because you lost some coins on there? am I right?

[Repunza]

Hey don't treat Arthur bad! He tries his best to offer support,and if he knows he doesn't has the button it doesn't have it.
You wanna play there? Ok,you don't great,don't.

I'm not treating him badly. I clicked the "thumbs up" and left a positive comment. He's doing a great job, telling the truth and admitting that the casino's advertising is misleading. I salute him for doing what's right rather than trying to cover up for the casino.

Whether I want to play there or not isn't the issue. The issue is that the casino clearly understands what provable fairness is, made a page saying how great it is, claims on that page that their games are provably fair, but in fact they aren't. That's a problem. Why would they do that?

You should think about what are you writing. Provably fair, provably fair, provably fair BLABLABLA ... this games are from providers that can confirm your bet is provably fair and this is THE MOST PROVABLY FAIR OPTION becouse casino who "host" these machines cannot influence their fairness

PS. I'm not defending them I only point what I know .. I believe bitcasino is a scam

C'mon now, One of there software provider is BETSOFT and BETSOFT have been caught providing rigged games. Just google it there are plenty of threads on the subject...

[dooglus]

You should think about what are you writing. Provably fair, provably fair, provably fair BLABLABLA ... this games are from providers that can confirm your bet is provably fair and this is THE MOST PROVABLY FAIR OPTION becouse casino who "host" these machines cannot influence their fairness

Confirmation from providers isn't the same as proof.

[Wendigo]

I would love it if you could offer some first deposit bonus for the sportsbook and not only for the casino.

[fox19891989]

I would love it if you could offer some first deposit bonus for the sportsbook and not only for the casino.

+1, currently don't see many bonus about sportsbook, only see cloudbet, jetwin have, can't see others have now, if this casino offers that, that's would be good for attracting players.

[crazyearner]

The more it seems on this site even do I do like it here, each game am using bonus on is winning a fair amount. Then lose streak and end up losing my coins. The games are meant to be at a % ratio to playing gambling and luck I understand however that said, with the live games seems a lot better than video games as seem to be never ending on losing and making the funds back on live games. Maybe fixed or scam who knows am still happy here overall.

[dooglus]

Maybe fixed or scam who knows am still happy here overall.

On https://bitcasino.io/bitcoin-gambling/provably-fair-bitcoin-casino/, bitcasino themselves recommend that you should play on a provably fair casino. They lay out all the reasons why. Why would "maybe fixed or scam" when you don't need to?



How do you make sure they're actually playing fair? You don't.

[I E]

Maybe fixed or scam who knows am still happy here overall.

On https://bitcasino.io/bitcoin-gambling/provably-fair-bitcoin-casino/, bitcasino themselves recommend that you should play on a provably fair casino. They lay out all the reasons why. Why would "maybe fixed or scam" when you don't need to?



How do you make sure they're actually playing fair? You don't.

Hehe this was actually pretty funny  

"How do I know if I’m playing at a provably fair Bitcoin casino?"

"Firstly, make sure you’re playing at a Bitcoin casino"  ... Yeah  

[bitcasino.io]

Hey guys!

I can understand the frustration and really sorry about it! That was a page for SEO purpose, made quite long time ago when we thought how to add provably fair system into our services. I just asked our SEO team to delete this page and put effort not to have these mistakes in the future.

Regarding other questions:
- sportbook bonus. We will add something like that in the near future. Actually I don't want to add any timeframes (already have complaints from other players about it!!!), while I can't control this process and just waiting for our technical team to finish automatic bonus module.

Whole sportsbook is still in beta version, there are plenty of things to fix on the first stage. But we are working hardly to present something special for all sports fans.

- wager counter. Actually that wasn't my goal to give any false statements. In fact it doesn't give us any advertising. I just wanted to show that we are working on it and while I'm not a developer, I can't control this process. Thought it will be faster, but it takes more time then we all think. So I will try not to give any deadlines in the future. It should be ready and we know how important it is - that's it. Next time I will update forum when system goes live.

- international champions cup. I guess you mean football cups? If so, there are lots of events coming and some of them are already live. If you mean something else, let me know and I will discuss it with our sportsbook manager.

[joksim299]

Hey guys!

I can understand the frustration and really sorry about it! That was a page for SEO purpose, made quite long time ago when we thought how to add provably fair system into our services. I just asked our SEO team to delete this page and put effort not to have these mistakes in the future.

It is false advertising and player can think they are playing at fair casino when it is not case.   Archived version of provably fair page https://archive.is/5oEGx

What happened to Novomatic games like Book of Ra?
I can find links on Google but no games https://bitcasino.io/casino/Lord-Of-The-Ocean (redirects to casino games )
https://bitcasino.io/casino/video-slots/Book-of-Ra-Deluxe/ (cant load game)
https://bitcasino.io/casino/video-slots/Sizzling-Hot (cant load game)

You link to the most popular games for SEO purpose too?

Last time I checked you were licensed in Curacao but now you are licensed in Montenegro? What is your office location I want to visit your office in Montenegro.

[bitcasino.io]

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[joksim299]

A murder! Again!
Discover the mystery-packing 'Victorian Villain', one of our latest additions to the choice of slot games!
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Victorian Villain is provably fair game?

[erwin45hacked]

Victorian Villain is provably fair game?

Do you even need to ask before checking it? ofcourse not.

[bitcasino.io]

joksim299, fortunately this page was visited just about 40 times for 2015 year, so compering with total amount of 2.5m visits of bitcasino.io during this year, that had no influence on our players. But thanks for the feedback, our seo managers received a good message.

Regarding links what you found - sounds like you just googled everything As you can see there are no games via these links, so I'm not sure where is an issue. We had these games previously, they are not active for significant amount of months and players can't find them on our site. I guess google just indexed these pages when they were active.

And you are more than welcome to visit the offices of our company in Montenegro where we are licensed at NJEGOŠEVA BR. 97, Cetinje, Montenegro. Further you can make direct contact with our gaming regulator to check the validity and integrity of our operation: https://e-gambling.me/contact

www.bitcasino.io is regulated and licensed by the government of Montenegro.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 5-0615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER) and approval (no. 02/01-118/4), organize and operate games on chance in Montenegro on website www.bitcasino.io, in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and KOPIKAS ENTERPRISES d.o.o. (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97, reg. no. 50714123, TIN: 03022242) on 06 January, 2015.

More details about the license, E-Gambling Montenegro and handling of complaints: e-gambling.me

[fox19891989]

joksim299, fortunately this page was visited just about 40 times for 2015 year, so compering with total amount of 2.5m visits of bitcasino.io during this year, that had no influence on our players. But thanks for the feedback, our seo managers received a good message.

Regarding links what you found - sounds like you just googled everything As you can see there are no games via these links, so I'm not sure where is an issue. We had these games previously, they are not active for significant amount of months and players can't find them on our site. I guess google just indexed these pages when they were active.

And you are more than welcome to visit the offices of our company in Montenegro where we are licensed at NJEGOŠEVA BR. 97, Cetinje, Montenegro. Further you can make direct contact with our gaming regulator to check the validity and integrity of our operation: https://e-gambling.me/contact

www.bitcasino.io is regulated and licensed by the government of Montenegro.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 5-0615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER) and approval (no. 02/01-118/4), organize and operate games on chance in Montenegro on website www.bitcasino.io, in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and KOPIKAS ENTERPRISES d.o.o. (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97, reg. no. 50714123, TIN: 03022242) on 06 January, 2015.

More details about the license, E-Gambling Montenegro and handling of complaints: e-gambling.me

any other famous fiat casinos have license of Montenegro? How much did you spend on the license? I never heard this license before and it is not a famous license in gambling world.

[joksim299]

joksim299, fortunately this page was visited just about 40 times for 2015 year, so compering with total amount of 2.5m visits of bitcasino.io during this year, that had no influence on our players. But thanks for the feedback, our seo managers received a good message.

Regarding links what you found - sounds like you just googled everything As you can see there are no games via these links, so I'm not sure where is an issue. We had these games previously, they are not active for significant amount of months and players can't find them on our site. I guess google just indexed these pages when they were active.

And you are more than welcome to visit the offices of our company in Montenegro where we are licensed at NJEGOŠEVA BR. 97, Cetinje, Montenegro. Further you can make direct contact with our gaming regulator to check the validity and integrity of our operation: https://e-gambling.me/contact

www.bitcasino.io is regulated and licensed by the government of Montenegro.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 5-0615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER) and approval (no. 02/01-118/4), organize and operate games on chance in Montenegro on website www.bitcasino.io, in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and KOPIKAS ENTERPRISES d.o.o. (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97, reg. no. 50714123, TIN: 03022242) on 06 January, 2015.

More details about the license, E-Gambling Montenegro and handling of complaints: e-gambling.me

any other famous fiat casinos have license of Montenegro? How much did you spend on the license? I never heard this license before and it is not a famous license in gambling world.

E-Gambling.me pays fixed fee of 10.000 eur per month for licence but this same licence is used by those sites
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Here is contract http://www.upravazaigrenasrecu.me/1/images/Ugovori/Internet/Egambling.pdf

Minimal payout percentage for online gambling sites licenced in Montenegro is not prescribed by law or I was not able to find it.
http://www.mf.gov.me/ResourceManager/FileDownload.aspx?rid=153784&rType=2&file=Zakon%20o%20igrama%20na%20srecu.pdf

Novomatic games were on site in time when I played at Bitcasino , links are still alive but games are not. Why you took them offline?

Are you sure about 2.4m visits this year? If you exclude US traffic you had roughly 600k visits

[dooglus]

joksim299, fortunately this page was visited just about 40 times for 2015 year, so compering with total amount of 2.5m visits of bitcasino.io during this year, that had no influence on our players. But thanks for the feedback, our seo managers received a good message.

As you said yourself, that page was for SEO purposes, not for players to read.

What that means is that the page's purpose was so that when people did a Google search for "provably fair casino" they would end up at your casino even though it is not provably fair.

Doesn't that seem like a deceptive practice? You have been caught lying about the provable fairness of your games and when challenged about it your defence boils down to "oh, we weren't lying directly to players, we were lying to the search engines so they could lie to players for us; that's better, right guys?"