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April 22, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
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Thx, I had heard that Doge turned LTC down (I think it may be because they are considering algorithm change) But I wasn't aware that Noble had been made the same offer. That would be a good thing I would think if we are to stay ASIC friendly.

Lee made the open offer to all coins to merge-mine underneath. In some ways there isn't much he can do to prevent coins forking to be 'compatible'. I agree, it will be a very important step to protect from ASICs, everyone can just mine a 'merger' of dozens of coins and enjoy the payouts from all.
But if a 'normal' miner can than so can an ASIC miner, how would that protect from them?

What he is saying is it protects the network from any one ASIC group coming and creating a 51% attack and forking the chain. The higher the net hash, the more secure.
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April 22, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
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Thx, I had heard that Doge turned LTC down (I think it may be because they are considering algorithm change) But I wasn't aware that Noble had been made the same offer. That would be a good thing I would think if we are to stay ASIC friendly.

Lee made the open offer to all coins to merge-mine underneath. In some ways there isn't much he can do to prevent coins forking to be 'compatible'. I agree, it will be a very important step to protect from ASICs, everyone can just mine a 'merger' of dozens of coins and enjoy the payouts from all.
But if a 'normal' miner can than so can an ASIC miner, how would that protect from them?

What he is saying is it protects the network from any one ASIC group coming and creating a 51% attack and forking the chain. The higher the net hash, the more secure.
Ah yea, now I get it.

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April 22, 2014, 07:54:02 PM
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Thx, I had heard that Doge turned LTC down (I think it may be because they are considering algorithm change) But I wasn't aware that Noble had been made the same offer. That would be a good thing I would think if we are to stay ASIC friendly.

Lee made the open offer to all coins to merge-mine underneath. In some ways there isn't much he can do to prevent coins forking to be 'compatible'. I agree, it will be a very important step to protect from ASICs, everyone can just mine a 'merger' of dozens of coins and enjoy the payouts from all.
But if a 'normal' miner can than so can an ASIC miner, how would that protect from them?

What he is saying is it protects the network from any one ASIC group coming and creating a 51% attack and forking the chain. The higher the net hash, the more secure.
Ah yea, now I get it.
I am 100% fully in support of this idea.

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Hi guys,

Last 36 hours I have been away from my pc and I just read about Rofo's announcement and as far as I can see it's a step forward. To be honest I was a bit hoping for a change to pos. But I am not a technical guy and very well changing to pos might be a bad idea.

The reason for my post is the fact that I read some days ago some posts where communitymembers were asking the dev to change the premine into btc. On this issue, I have an very clear view.
First thing that comes up is of course; when someone is changing noble coins for btc, he is actually saying; I see a better future for btc compared to noble ( otherwise he would have kept the nobles).
From the beginning, I have been supporting noble coin. Reading the bitcointalk forum, I liked the coin, had faith in the dev and still think he does a great job.When noble got listed at coinmarket, I was the guy (noob) that pumped noble from 240 to 320 sat. Then started the big decline to something like 12 sat and I kept accumulating nobles all the time.
I told 8 different people about noble and made them all buy noble coins. I bought gold with noble at coaex and emailed a lot of merchants, asking them if they were willing to sell me their stuff for noble coins. I did these things because I believe in Rofo, I don't invest in noble, I invest people, in this case the dev. Getting noble coin widely known and accepted is important.
Try to imagine how I would feel in the following situation. Recently when noble was listed at mintpal we were trading over a 100 sat. Then we started to go down to 60 and I decided this is enough, I am going to support the coin. I put a 7 btc buywall at poloniex at 58, we went up, I changed to 65, then to 70 and finally to 80. In the meanwhile, I started buying at mintpal as well. We went up to almost a 100 sat, just because I started buying and other people followed. I liked the result, the price went up and we got new people having noble coins. Finally my buywall got broken.  Allthough I had already a lot noble coins, I spend another 12 btc, buying nobles at 80 sat. How would I feel when those coins were sold by the dev of the coin, actually saying buy that shit, btc is a lot better.
How can you ever convince new investors to buy noble coins when a dev himself is selling nobles for btc?
At the moment I have a lot of nobles, too much to sell at a 100 btc volume a day. It's not that I am willing to sell ( I like the way Rofo is doing his job), but it would be more healthier for the coin when I could spread them a bit. For myself I am planning to sell small amounts whenever noble goes  up again above 120 sat or so. I will never sell coins in such an amount that I push the price down ( it's not good for noble and not good for myself). Many coinholders fear big wallets, when they dump, they destroy the price. I can assure you, I will never do that. My wallet is too big to do such a thing. When I sell a small part we are already at 30 sat or so and neither noble nor I would benefit from such an action.
I didn't read any comments from Rofo regarding changing nobles for btc, except the fact that he said that it would have been profitable when he would have done it in the beginning. Of course, we can't deny.
I just hope, that all of us can help, spread the noble coins and get more and more businesses being noble accepted. Now there are just over a 10,000 wallets. Lets all try to tell some friends about noble, lets all try to find new merchants accepting noble, so we will see a nice growth in existing noble wallets.
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April 22, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
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Hi guys,

Last 36 hours I have been away from my pc and I just read about Rofo's announcement and as far as I can see it's a step forward. To be honest I was a bit hoping for a change to pos. But I am not a technical guy and very well changing to pos might be a bad idea.

The reason for my post is the fact that I read some days ago some posts where communitymembers were asking the dev to change the premine into btc. On this issue, I have an very clear view.
First thing that comes up is of course; when someone is changing noble coins for btc, he is actually saying; I see a better future for btc compared to noble ( otherwise he would have kept the nobles).
From the beginning, I have been supporting noble coin. Reading the bitcointalk forum, I liked the coin, had faith in the dev and still think he does a great job.When noble got listed at coinmarket, I was the guy (noob) that pumped noble from 240 to 320 sat. Then started the big decline to something like 12 sat and I kept accumulating nobles all the time.
I told 8 different people about noble and made them all buy noble coins. I bought gold with noble at coaex and emailed a lot of merchants, asking them if they were willing to sell me their stuff for noble coins. I did these things because I believe in Rofo, I don't invest in noble, I invest people, in this case the dev. Getting noble coin widely known and accepted is important.
Try to imagine how I would feel in the following situation. Recently when noble was listed at mintpal we were trading over a 100 sat. Then we started to go down to 60 and I decided this is enough, I am going to support the coin. I put a 7 btc buywall at poloniex at 58, we went up, I changed to 65, then to 70 and finally to 80. In the meanwhile, I started buying at mintpal as well. We went up to almost a 100 sat, just because I started buying and other people followed. I liked the result, the price went up and we got new people having noble coins. Finally my buywall got broken.  Allthough I had already a lot noble coins, I spend another 12 btc, buying nobles at 80 sat. How would I feel when those coins were sold by the dev of the coin, actually saying buy that shit, btc is a lot better.
How can you ever convince new investors to buy noble coins when a dev himself is selling nobles for btc?
At the moment I have a lot of nobles, too much to sell at a 100 btc volume a day. It's not that I am willing to sell ( I like the way Rofo is doing his job), but it would be more healthier for the coin when I could spread them a bit. For myself I am planning to sell small amounts whenever noble goes  up again above 120 sat or so. I will never sell coins in such an amount that I push the price down ( it's not good for noble and not good for myself). Many coinholders fear big wallets, when they dump, they destroy the price. I can assure you, I will never do that. My wallet is too big to do such a thing. When I sell a small part we are already at 30 sat or so and neither noble nor I would benefit from such an action.
I didn't read any comments from Rofo regarding changing nobles for btc, except the fact that he said that it would have been profitable when he would have done it in the beginning. Of course, we can't deny.
I just hope, that all of us can help, spread the noble coins and get more and more businesses being noble accepted. Now there are just over a 10,000 wallets. Lets all try to tell some friends about noble, lets all try to find new merchants accepting noble, so we will see a nice growth in existing noble wallets.

I agree, the minute we stop believing in NOBL as a distinguished form of crypto currency the battle is lost. Coming from someone that also has a large stake in NobleCoin, I wanted to thank you for the continued support ontopicplease. If you ever feel the need to discuss things with us don't hesitate to come chat at #noblecoin on webchat.freenode.net
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April 22, 2014, 09:50:41 PM
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I must admit that initially I was hoping for PoS as well. But than I realized that PoS is not the holy grail. It is more or less a "sit on your coins" system where you can choose to have an increase of funds at x%. Now i know banks do the same but the are actually doing that with a currency which they use to invest and return some of the profits to the saving accounts. PoS is not using any investment only a mining alternative. So from currency perspective it does not add that much to a (crypto) currency.

Regarding the choices Rofo is presenting, I think they are solid.
Regarding the communities support, well I guess we could take a look at how BlackCoin is operating. How did they manage to get the promotions going for example? Why are so many people talking about anything in their forum. I guess the support should not be just buying and stimulating but making a lot of noise as well....

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April 22, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
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Maybe Rofo can set up some sort of standard scrypt, we all can use when contacting merchants for accepting noble coin.
I am asking Rofo, because he prolly knows best what we can say regarding the following pro's reagrding noble compared to other payment options.

Points like;
Fraud risk
Fees that Merchants have to pay to neteller or paypal. Noble is fee-free, I guess.
Payment time.

And probably there are a lot more advantages for merchants when they accept noble coins.

And there are a lot more things that can be done by community members. We can make YouTube video's about noble coin. We can tweet a lot more. I myself set up an twitter-account just for crypto. Started 6 to 8 weeks ago and have 300+ followers now. Every noble tweet, I retweet, but with me there are only a hand full others who do that. We all should retweet every tweet about noble.

Rofo did his work excellent, but the community has to help. Take a look at the activity at doge and let us use this activity as an example.

Regarding marketing, we didn't do enough, imo. I think, there are not a lot really excellent marketeers. You really have to search well. But spending a part of the premine on a really good marketingguy is something I like to see.

Talking about premine. I was also one of the coinex victims. I saw the discussion about wheather or not to use premine for the victims. I personally stand a neutral. I think, it very social from Rofo that he intends to help the victims, something that fits to our noble vision very well. But on the other side, it was our and my own mistake, so why should the community pay for it. When Rofo, gives me back my 3,7 M Nobles I lost at coinex, I will donate 50% back to Rofo and hope he can invest it in some marketingspecialist.
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April 22, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
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Someone here should take this opportunity Wink http://www.reddit.com/r/NobleCoin/comments/23o0fh/noblecoiners_wanna_learn_ondastreet_commercial/

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April 23, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
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What sort of services would you guys like to see from Noblecoin?


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April 23, 2014, 01:23:34 AM
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What sort of services would you guys like to see from Noblecoin?

I got some coin to invest

Im curious to know that also, we're currently getting pretty nicely set up with merchants, the 'Steps' kickstarter coming this week and plenty of places to buy online with NOBL. You have a bit of a speciality in online games and odds yes?

I'd also ask everyone to start asking their regular BTC/altcoin merchants politely if they would be interested in accepting NOBL and mentioning we're on CoinPayments/Mintpal/AGX. A higher volume exchange like Mintpal and a FinCEN/US-based exchange like AGX.io is looked upon favourably. We will be sending out a professional introduction and request for acceptance to all merchants and services again this week.

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April 23, 2014, 03:13:30 AM
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Looking to hear some exciting ideas as well. The more services/merchants we can add, the better.
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April 23, 2014, 03:32:53 AM
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Hi guys,

Last 36 hours I have been away from my pc and I just read about Rofo's announcement and as far as I can see it's a step forward. To be honest I was a bit hoping for a change to pos. But I am not a technical guy and very well changing to pos might be a bad idea.

The reason for my post is the fact that I read some days ago some posts where communitymembers were asking the dev to change the premine into btc. On this issue, I have an very clear view.
First thing that comes up is of course; when someone is changing noble coins for btc, he is actually saying; I see a better future for btc compared to noble ( otherwise he would have kept the nobles).
From the beginning, I have been supporting noble coin. Reading the bitcointalk forum, I liked the coin, had faith in the dev and still think he does a great job.When noble got listed at coinmarket, I was the guy (noob) that pumped noble from 240 to 320 sat. Then started the big decline to something like 12 sat and I kept accumulating nobles all the time.
I told 8 different people about noble and made them all buy noble coins. I bought gold with noble at coaex and emailed a lot of merchants, asking them if they were willing to sell me their stuff for noble coins. I did these things because I believe in Rofo, I don't invest in noble, I invest people, in this case the dev. Getting noble coin widely known and accepted is important.
Try to imagine how I would feel in the following situation. Recently when noble was listed at mintpal we were trading over a 100 sat. Then we started to go down to 60 and I decided this is enough, I am going to support the coin. I put a 7 btc buywall at poloniex at 58, we went up, I changed to 65, then to 70 and finally to 80. In the meanwhile, I started buying at mintpal as well. We went up to almost a 100 sat, just because I started buying and other people followed. I liked the result, the price went up and we got new people having noble coins. Finally my buywall got broken.  Allthough I had already a lot noble coins, I spend another 12 btc, buying nobles at 80 sat. How would I feel when those coins were sold by the dev of the coin, actually saying buy that shit, btc is a lot better.
How can you ever convince new investors to buy noble coins when a dev himself is selling nobles for btc?
At the moment I have a lot of nobles, too much to sell at a 100 btc volume a day. It's not that I am willing to sell ( I like the way Rofo is doing his job), but it would be more healthier for the coin when I could spread them a bit. For myself I am planning to sell small amounts whenever noble goes  up again above 120 sat or so. I will never sell coins in such an amount that I push the price down ( it's not good for noble and not good for myself). Many coinholders fear big wallets, when they dump, they destroy the price. I can assure you, I will never do that. My wallet is too big to do such a thing. When I sell a small part we are already at 30 sat or so and neither noble nor I would benefit from such an action.
I didn't read any comments from Rofo regarding changing nobles for btc, except the fact that he said that it would have been profitable when he would have done it in the beginning. Of course, we can't deny.
I just hope, that all of us can help, spread the noble coins and get more and more businesses being noble accepted. Now there are just over a 10,000 wallets. Lets all try to tell some friends about noble, lets all try to find new merchants accepting noble, so we will see a nice growth in existing noble wallets.

Ok, so I can see your argument for selling some of the premine for BTC. It would look like the community has no faith in the coin.
The only reason that I said it was that when the price was very low (and this is hypothetical as I only guess how the marketplace works), that Noble would have had to be sold in order to pay the 3rd parties that provide the products. This would further push the price down.
I also thought that it could have been used to support the price at times.
But anyways I agree with you, it isn't worth the negative image that it would cast over the coin, and I doubt that it will reach the level that it did last week again.
That is some great work you are doing supporting the coin Smiley I would if I could, but I just dont have any money to put into it at the moment.
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April 23, 2014, 04:09:55 AM
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Just wanted to give you guys some food for thought...

https://twitter.com/miKnutty/status/458750823929872384

@miKnutty " If 500 believers buy .5 BTC worth of @NobleCoin and hold longterm, we will work together to increase our value. "


https://twitter.com/NobleCoin/status/458755753273081856

@NobleCoin " We're always looking for longer-term supporters. We're here to answer tough questions, know us personally, get involved and be rewarded. RT "


If we can build a community who is willing to believe in long-term growth and prosperity we can go above and beyond where we've been in the past.

500 investors at .5 BTC with a price of 50 satoshi is 1 million per investor.
x 500 = 500,000,000 NOBL

That right there accounts for 50% of the total coin supply.
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April 23, 2014, 06:18:44 AM
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Hi guys,

Last 36 hours I have been away from my pc and I just read about Rofo's announcement and as far as I can see it's a step forward. To be honest I was a bit hoping for a change to pos. But I am not a technical guy and very well changing to pos might be a bad idea.

The reason for my post is the fact that I read some days ago some posts where communitymembers were asking the dev to change the premine into btc. On this issue, I have an very clear view.
First thing that comes up is of course; when someone is changing noble coins for btc, he is actually saying; I see a better future for btc compared to noble ( otherwise he would have kept the nobles).
From the beginning, I have been supporting noble coin. Reading the bitcointalk forum, I liked the coin, had faith in the dev and still think he does a great job.When noble got listed at coinmarket, I was the guy (noob) that pumped noble from 240 to 320 sat. Then started the big decline to something like 12 sat and I kept accumulating nobles all the time.
I told 8 different people about noble and made them all buy noble coins. I bought gold with noble at coaex and emailed a lot of merchants, asking them if they were willing to sell me their stuff for noble coins. I did these things because I believe in Rofo, I don't invest in noble, I invest people, in this case the dev. Getting noble coin widely known and accepted is important.
Try to imagine how I would feel in the following situation. Recently when noble was listed at mintpal we were trading over a 100 sat. Then we started to go down to 60 and I decided this is enough, I am going to support the coin. I put a 7 btc buywall at poloniex at 58, we went up, I changed to 65, then to 70 and finally to 80. In the meanwhile, I started buying at mintpal as well. We went up to almost a 100 sat, just because I started buying and other people followed. I liked the result, the price went up and we got new people having noble coins. Finally my buywall got broken.  Allthough I had already a lot noble coins, I spend another 12 btc, buying nobles at 80 sat. How would I feel when those coins were sold by the dev of the coin, actually saying buy that shit, btc is a lot better.
How can you ever convince new investors to buy noble coins when a dev himself is selling nobles for btc?
At the moment I have a lot of nobles, too much to sell at a 100 btc volume a day. It's not that I am willing to sell ( I like the way Rofo is doing his job), but it would be more healthier for the coin when I could spread them a bit. For myself I am planning to sell small amounts whenever noble goes  up again above 120 sat or so. I will never sell coins in such an amount that I push the price down ( it's not good for noble and not good for myself). Many coinholders fear big wallets, when they dump, they destroy the price. I can assure you, I will never do that. My wallet is too big to do such a thing. When I sell a small part we are already at 30 sat or so and neither noble nor I would benefit from such an action.
I didn't read any comments from Rofo regarding changing nobles for btc, except the fact that he said that it would have been profitable when he would have done it in the beginning. Of course, we can't deny.
I just hope, that all of us can help, spread the noble coins and get more and more businesses being noble accepted. Now there are just over a 10,000 wallets. Lets all try to tell some friends about noble, lets all try to find new merchants accepting noble, so we will see a nice growth in existing noble wallets.

I agree, the minute we stop believing in NOBL as a distinguished form of crypto currency the battle is lost. Coming from someone that also has a large stake in NobleCoin, I wanted to thank you for the continued support ontopicplease. If you ever feel the need to discuss things with us don't hesitate to come chat at #noblecoin on webchat.freenode.net

Thanks for the invitation. Of course I like to help. Never was on freenode, will figure out how it works. I will contact you there tonight or tommorow ( actually have a lot of appointments today and tommorow). When our (long term)  views connect a bit. I can spend time on Noble the coming months. Actually I am writing down some ideas right now, but have to go soon.
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April 23, 2014, 06:44:02 AM
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Thx, I had heard that Doge turned LTC down (I think it may be because they are considering algorithm change) But I wasn't aware that Noble had been made the same offer. That would be a good thing I would think if we are to stay ASIC friendly.

Lee made the open offer to all coins to merge-mine underneath. In some ways there isn't much he can do to prevent coins forking to be 'compatible'. I agree, it will be a very important step to protect from ASICs, everyone can just mine a 'merger' of dozens of coins and enjoy the payouts from all.

I have a ticket to DogeCon on the 25th which Charlie Lee is going to if they say anything about it I'll post on here since most of that stuff is probably only going to be floating around the dogecoin reddit.

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Thx, I had heard that Doge turned LTC down (I think it may be because they are considering algorithm change) But I wasn't aware that Noble had been made the same offer. That would be a good thing I would think if we are to stay ASIC friendly.

Lee made the open offer to all coins to merge-mine underneath. In some ways there isn't much he can do to prevent coins forking to be 'compatible'. I agree, it will be a very important step to protect from ASICs, everyone can just mine a 'merger' of dozens of coins and enjoy the payouts from all.

I have a ticket to DogeCon on the 25th which Charlie Lee is going to if they say anything about it I'll post on here since most of that stuff is probably only going to be floating around the dogecoin reddit.

Okay, very nice.
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April 23, 2014, 07:03:29 AM
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Hi guys,

Last 36 hours I have been away from my pc and I just read about Rofo's announcement and as far as I can see it's a step forward. To be honest I was a bit hoping for a change to pos. But I am not a technical guy and very well changing to pos might be a bad idea.

The reason for my post is the fact that I read some days ago some posts where communitymembers were asking the dev to change the premine into btc. On this issue, I have an very clear view.
First thing that comes up is of course; when someone is changing noble coins for btc, he is actually saying; I see a better future for btc compared to noble ( otherwise he would have kept the nobles).
From the beginning, I have been supporting noble coin. Reading the bitcointalk forum, I liked the coin, had faith in the dev and still think he does a great job.When noble got listed at coinmarket, I was the guy (noob) that pumped noble from 240 to 320 sat. Then started the big decline to something like 12 sat and I kept accumulating nobles all the time.
I told 8 different people about noble and made them all buy noble coins. I bought gold with noble at coaex and emailed a lot of merchants, asking them if they were willing to sell me their stuff for noble coins. I did these things because I believe in Rofo, I don't invest in noble, I invest people, in this case the dev. Getting noble coin widely known and accepted is important.
Try to imagine how I would feel in the following situation. Recently when noble was listed at mintpal we were trading over a 100 sat. Then we started to go down to 60 and I decided this is enough, I am going to support the coin. I put a 7 btc buywall at poloniex at 58, we went up, I changed to 65, then to 70 and finally to 80. In the meanwhile, I started buying at mintpal as well. We went up to almost a 100 sat, just because I started buying and other people followed. I liked the result, the price went up and we got new people having noble coins. Finally my buywall got broken.  Allthough I had already a lot noble coins, I spend another 12 btc, buying nobles at 80 sat. How would I feel when those coins were sold by the dev of the coin, actually saying buy that shit, btc is a lot better.
How can you ever convince new investors to buy noble coins when a dev himself is selling nobles for btc?
At the moment I have a lot of nobles, too much to sell at a 100 btc volume a day. It's not that I am willing to sell ( I like the way Rofo is doing his job), but it would be more healthier for the coin when I could spread them a bit. For myself I am planning to sell small amounts whenever noble goes  up again above 120 sat or so. I will never sell coins in such an amount that I push the price down ( it's not good for noble and not good for myself). Many coinholders fear big wallets, when they dump, they destroy the price. I can assure you, I will never do that. My wallet is too big to do such a thing. When I sell a small part we are already at 30 sat or so and neither noble nor I would benefit from such an action.
I didn't read any comments from Rofo regarding changing nobles for btc, except the fact that he said that it would have been profitable when he would have done it in the beginning. Of course, we can't deny.
I just hope, that all of us can help, spread the noble coins and get more and more businesses being noble accepted. Now there are just over a 10,000 wallets. Lets all try to tell some friends about noble, lets all try to find new merchants accepting noble, so we will see a nice growth in existing noble wallets.

I agree, the minute we stop believing in NOBL as a distinguished form of crypto currency the battle is lost. Coming from someone that also has a large stake in NobleCoin, I wanted to thank you for the continued support ontopicplease. If you ever feel the need to discuss things with us don't hesitate to come chat at #noblecoin on webchat.freenode.net

Thanks for the invitation. Of course I like to help. Never was on freenode, will figure out how it works. I will contact you there tonight or tommorow ( actually have a lot of appointments today and tommorow). When our (long term)  views connect a bit. I can spend time on Noble the coming months. Actually I am writing down some ideas right now, but have to go soon.

No worries, its as simple as typing in that address I linked, picking a nickname and under channel, type #noblecoin then connect! Look forward to hearing some of those ideas in the future.
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If a hard fork is issued, currently mined noble coins will be valid after the changes?
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If a hard fork is issued, currently mined noble coins will be valid after the changes?
Yes, they will all stay valid.

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