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January 22, 2014, 11:02:40 AM
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Have we ever wrote to Coins-E? Can't remember. It's currently a bit lifeless.

 I quote from https://anoncoin.net//Exchanges.html

"This is a risky exchange that either works, or simply steals your coins. For this reason use of coins-e is Not Recommended."

Ok, thx.

Probably, we can give a chance to Comkort. At least website looking solid.
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January 22, 2014, 11:04:23 AM
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How in the hell did the equivalent of a "digital raffle" meant to generate some interest in the coin, turn into a full blown argument over it's legitimacy, and odds? When you buy a raffle ticket for $5 do you question who is drawing the ticket, or what the odds are? It's a damn raffle...buy in or don't...Jesus.

Lotteries could get more people interested in DigiByte, especially if the prizes were even bigger. But the community isn't big enough for that yet.
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January 22, 2014, 11:05:24 AM
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Oh, so it IS an official lottery of DGB Devs and your not making any profit at all on the lottery?


Lol, I never claimed I did this for free. People should get something for putting in a lot of time and effort - do you work for free?? Even the guy who did the German "translation" on Google translate got paid 250,000 DGB for his 5 min. of "work".

The dicegames and bet races are complete ripoffs though. In comparison I believe the lottery is fair as it now stands considering risk/reward

The point of lotteries usually is that the prize pool is so big that it will have a significant impact on the players life if he hits the jackpot. For example you get a chance to win 10 000 000 x bet even if the organizer cuts 50% of the pool. Now from your lottery if you hit a jackpot you get a massive 75x your bet which is a real game changer.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with that dieroll place in any way, it's also a -EV game and should be avoided.

If I wanted to gamble for similar sized "jackpot" I would take my bet and decide to flip it 6 times in that dieroll place. If a flip fails I'll just stop playing and move on.

So I would run like this:
bet x 2, 2 x bet x 2, 4 x bet x 2, 8 x bet x 2, 16 x bet x 2, 32 x bet x 2 = 64 x bet
Note that if any of the flips fail, that's it. You didn't win the jackpot and you lost your money, time to move on. Do not even think of devising a "surefire system" as such does not exist.

How high is the chance to nail 6 consecutive slightly rigged flips? I'm assuming 0.5% house edge.
chanceToWin = (49.75%/100%)^6 x 100% = 1.5162%

How high is the return % on this kind of a gamble?
prize x chanceToWin / bet = 64 x bet x 0.015162 / bet = 97.0368%


Your lottery's return % (I'll demonstrate this with 150 player pool)
(300 000 + 120 000 + 60 000)/3 x 3/150 / 4 000
480 000 / 150 / 4 000 = 80%

So which form of gamble has a fairer risk/reward ratio? (both are -EV games and should be avoided IMHO)
Your lottery or slightly rigged die roll game with preset amount of rolls and bet doubling?


If you are going to provide some kind of a gambling service, never, ever start talking about fairness, risk/reward ratios or call your competition a scam to your customers. Your bullshit will be called out quite swiftly and quite often there are fairer ways to gamble. I wouldn't have posted this if you didn't start blabbing about the aforementioned things.

I can see your promoting this scam hard with your lies and bullshit LOL. Any sane person knows the dicegame is a huge lossmaker for anyone that plays it.
It's a scam straighforward.

Did you comprehend what I wrote? Both the dice game and your lottery have -Expected Value from the players perspective
-> You shouldn't play either of the games
Now when you accuse your competition a scam, especially when it's actually a shitload fairer than your provided gambling service, you show how big of a sleazebag you are.
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January 22, 2014, 11:10:17 AM
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Oh, so it IS an official lottery of DGB Devs and your not making any profit at all on the lottery?


Lol, I never claimed I did this for free. People should get something for putting in a lot of time and effort - do you work for free?? Even the guy who did the German "translation" on Google translate got paid 250,000 DGB for his 5 min. of "work".

The dicegames and bet races are complete ripoffs though. In comparison I believe the lottery is fair as it now stands considering risk/reward

The point of lotteries usually is that the prize pool is so big that it will have a significant impact on the players life if he hits the jackpot. For example you get a chance to win 10 000 000 x bet even if the organizer cuts 50% of the pool. Now from your lottery if you hit a jackpot you get a massive 75x your bet which is a real game changer.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with that dieroll place in any way, it's also a -EV game and should be avoided.

If I wanted to gamble for similar sized "jackpot" I would take my bet and decide to flip it 6 times in that dieroll place. If a flip fails I'll just stop playing and move on.

So I would run like this:
bet x 2, 2 x bet x 2, 4 x bet x 2, 8 x bet x 2, 16 x bet x 2, 32 x bet x 2 = 64 x bet
Note that if any of the flips fail, that's it. You didn't win the jackpot and you lost your money, time to move on. Do not even think of devising a "surefire system" as such does not exist.

How high is the chance to nail 6 consecutive slightly rigged flips? I'm assuming 0.5% house edge.
chanceToWin = (49.75%/100%)^6 x 100% = 1.5162%

How high is the return % on this kind of a gamble?
prize x chanceToWin / bet = 64 x bet x 0.015162 / bet = 97.0368%


Your lottery's return % (I'll demonstrate this with 150 player pool)
(300 000 + 120 000 + 60 000)/3 x 3/150 / 4 000
480 000 / 150 / 4 000 = 80%

So which form of gamble has a fairer risk/reward ratio? (both are -EV games and should be avoided IMHO)
Your lottery or slightly rigged die roll game with preset amount of rolls and bet doubling?


If you are going to provide some kind of a gambling service, never, ever start talking about fairness, risk/reward ratios or call your competition a scam to your customers. Your bullshit will be called out quite swiftly and quite often there are fairer ways to gamble. I wouldn't have posted this if you didn't start blabbing about the aforementioned things.

I can see your promoting this scam hard with your lies and bullshit LOL. Any sane person knows the dicegame is a huge lossmaker for anyone that plays it.
It's a scam straighforward.

Did you comprehend what I wrote? Both the dice game and your lottery have -Expected Value from the players perspective
-> You shouldn't play either of the games
Now when you accuse your competition a scam, especially when it's actually a shitload fairer than your provided gambling service, you show how big of a sleazebag you are.

Promoting and spreading lies about the wortless dicegame scam makes you a bandit highway robber AND a sleazebag. LOL
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January 22, 2014, 11:16:35 AM
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Ok Ok Ok.

Enough "sleazebags" and hate, please  Cry Cry

I honestly absolutely love the idea of you doing a lottery.  I really do! 

When I first read it, I considering buying a ticket myself just for an excuse to pop it back to the top of the sub-forum. 

It wasn't until I noticed that the title and colors and wording made it look exactly like the main thread that it started to worry me!

What is so hard about being on the up-and-up and making sure there isn't any connotations of "official" support???

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Ok Ok Ok.

Enough "sleazebags" and hate, please  Cry Cry

I honestly absolutely love the idea of you doing a lottery.  I really do!  

When I first read it, I considering buying a ticket myself just for an excuse to pop it back to the top of the sub-forum.  

It wasn't until I noticed that the title and colors and wording made it look exactly like the main thread that it started to worry me!

What is so hard about being on the up-and-up and making sure there isn't any connotations of "official" support???

THAT started to worry you, thats half the point, so that potential new adopters of the coin would recognize the logos and colors as the thread would pop up in the  
"Alternate cryptocurrencies" section. I think you have misunderstood this whole concept.
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January 22, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
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Promoting and spreading lies about the wortless dicegame scam makes you a bandit highway robber AND a sleazebag. LOL

I'm not affiliated with the dice game in any way. The dice game is a scam if it doesn't allow people to withdraw their coins from the service, and I haven't seen such posts. Same goes for your lottery, if you run with the ticket money or don't pay out the wins after the lottery your service is a scam.

It's really stupid to accuse a form of gambling a scam if it really isn't one. If you started running a lottery in Las Vegas and started shouting that the casinos are scams because they always win in the long run what would you expect to happen? You'd get sued for libel.
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January 22, 2014, 11:26:19 AM
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Oh, so it IS an official lottery of DGB Devs and your not making any profit at all on the lottery?


Lol, I never claimed I did this for free. People should get something for putting in a lot of time and effort - do you work for free?? Even the guy who did the German "translation" on Google translate got paid 250,000 DGB for his 5 min. of "work".

The dicegames and bet races are complete ripoffs though. In comparison I believe the lottery is fair as it now stands considering risk/reward

The point of lotteries usually is that the prize pool is so big that it will have a significant impact on the players life if he hits the jackpot. For example you get a chance to win 10 000 000 x bet even if the organizer cuts 50% of the pool. Now from your lottery if you hit a jackpot you get a massive 75x your bet which is a real game changer.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with that dieroll place in any way, it's also a -EV game and should be avoided.

If I wanted to gamble for similar sized "jackpot" I would take my bet and decide to flip it 6 times in that dieroll place. If a flip fails I'll just stop playing and move on.

So I would run like this:
bet x 2, 2 x bet x 2, 4 x bet x 2, 8 x bet x 2, 16 x bet x 2, 32 x bet x 2 = 64 x bet
Note that if any of the flips fail, that's it. You didn't win the jackpot and you lost your money, time to move on. Do not even think of devising a "surefire system" as such does not exist.

How high is the chance to nail 6 consecutive slightly rigged flips? I'm assuming 0.5% house edge.
chanceToWin = (49.75%/100%)^6 x 100% = 1.5162%

How high is the return % on this kind of a gamble?
prize x chanceToWin / bet = 64 x bet x 0.015162 / bet = 97.0368%


Your lottery's return % (I'll demonstrate this with 150 player pool)
(300 000 + 120 000 + 60 000)/3 x 3/150 / 4 000
480 000 / 150 / 4 000 = 80%

So which form of gamble has a fairer risk/reward ratio? (both are -EV games and should be avoided IMHO)
Your lottery or slightly rigged die roll game with preset amount of rolls and bet doubling?


If you are going to provide some kind of a gambling service, never, ever start talking about fairness, risk/reward ratios or call your competition a scam to your customers. Your bullshit will be called out quite swiftly and quite often there are fairer ways to gamble. I wouldn't have posted this if you didn't start blabbing about the aforementioned things.

I can see your promoting this scam hard with your lies and bullshit LOL. Any sane person knows the dicegame is a huge lossmaker for anyone that plays it.
It's a scam straighforward.

Did you comprehend what I wrote? Both the dice game and your lottery have -Expected Value from the players perspective
-> You shouldn't play either of the games
Now when you accuse your competition a scam, especially when it's actually a shitload fairer than your provided gambling service, you show how big of a sleazebag you are.

Promoting and spreading lies about the wortless dicegame scam makes you a bandit highway robber AND a sleazebag. LOL

he is just telling the truth "the house always wins " ,and you call him a bandit highway robber ,you must be retarded
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January 22, 2014, 11:36:17 AM
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I love this coin, its got developers and interest, but I've got major issues with your "official mascot". That's just some random clipart robot, you can't claim him as a mascot. As anyone with $5 can buy that robots image.
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January 22, 2014, 11:41:23 AM
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Oh, so it IS an official lottery of DGB Devs and your not making any profit at all on the lottery?


Lol, I never claimed I did this for free. People should get something for putting in a lot of time and effort - do you work for free?? Even the guy who did the German "translation" on Google translate got paid 250,000 DGB for his 5 min. of "work".

The dicegames and bet races are complete ripoffs though. In comparison I believe the lottery is fair as it now stands considering risk/reward

The point of lotteries usually is that the prize pool is so big that it will have a significant impact on the players life if he hits the jackpot. For example you get a chance to win 10 000 000 x bet even if the organizer cuts 50% of the pool. Now from your lottery if you hit a jackpot you get a massive 75x your bet which is a real game changer.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with that dieroll place in any way, it's also a -EV game and should be avoided.

If I wanted to gamble for similar sized "jackpot" I would take my bet and decide to flip it 6 times in that dieroll place. If a flip fails I'll just stop playing and move on.

So I would run like this:
bet x 2, 2 x bet x 2, 4 x bet x 2, 8 x bet x 2, 16 x bet x 2, 32 x bet x 2 = 64 x bet
Note that if any of the flips fail, that's it. You didn't win the jackpot and you lost your money, time to move on. Do not even think of devising a "surefire system" as such does not exist.

How high is the chance to nail 6 consecutive slightly rigged flips? I'm assuming 0.5% house edge.
chanceToWin = (49.75%/100%)^6 x 100% = 1.5162%

How high is the return % on this kind of a gamble?
prize x chanceToWin / bet = 64 x bet x 0.015162 / bet = 97.0368%


Your lottery's return % (I'll demonstrate this with 150 player pool)
(300 000 + 120 000 + 60 000)/3 x 3/150 / 4 000
480 000 / 150 / 4 000 = 80%

So which form of gamble has a fairer risk/reward ratio? (both are -EV games and should be avoided IMHO)
Your lottery or slightly rigged die roll game with preset amount of rolls and bet doubling?


If you are going to provide some kind of a gambling service, never, ever start talking about fairness, risk/reward ratios or call your competition a scam to your customers. Your bullshit will be called out quite swiftly and quite often there are fairer ways to gamble. I wouldn't have posted this if you didn't start blabbing about the aforementioned things.

I can see your promoting this scam hard with your lies and bullshit LOL. Any sane person knows the dicegame is a huge lossmaker for anyone that plays it.
It's a scam straighforward.

Did you comprehend what I wrote? Both the dice game and your lottery have -Expected Value from the players perspective
-> You shouldn't play either of the games
Now when you accuse your competition a scam, especially when it's actually a shitload fairer than your provided gambling service, you show how big of a sleazebag you are.

Promoting and spreading lies about the wortless dicegame scam makes you a bandit highway robber AND a sleazebag. LOL

he is just telling the truth "the house always wins " ,and you call him a bandit highway robber ,you must be retarded

You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think about yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags. Your like the mafia.
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January 22, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
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If anyone has a great idea on to what the best way to do the lottery is please let us know. We ourselves were thinking of a fair & transparent way to do this.

1. Payout at least 95%
2. Only accept tickets from users here in the board that created an account more than 2 weeks ago (otherwise the creator of the lottery could easily set up a new account himself that wins)
3. Let digibyte announce the winner
4. Reveal how the draw will be done to prove randomness


1. Why not make it 101% payout  Smiley
2. Great - so about 3 people will buy tickets??
3. He is now.
4. Yeah, put it on CNN

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Any of those dice games or bet races give me a higher chance to win, so no reason for me and many others to participate. The USDE lottery even paid out more than that.Wink

And I believe that all of my 4 points are valid points, but your replies have shown that you do not want to take them serious and even made fun about it, so my little trust in this is now completely gone. Smiley

Maybe, I will start my own lottery where all those 4 points will apply.

I can't see that you even have a single valid point, all I see is that you would like to steal my idea. Please stop trolling, your close to being a Gingermod2.

Those dice games are set up for ALL of you to lose against the "house". They are meant to be played again and again and again in a short period of time and you lose a little almost all the time. If you play that boring dicegame for an hour you will probably have lost 95% of your funds - giving a payout in real termes of 5%. Play the dicegame with 50,000 DGB for an hour and your left with 2,500 DGB, making a loss of 47,500. Any of those dicegames or bet races will make you broke.

Play the DigiByte Lottery on the other hand and you may win up to 300,000 DGB.

Dice games have an house edge of 2-4%, means an 48% that doubles your bet, so the expected outcome is 0.92-0.96DGB for each 1 DGB bet.You are offering a payout of 80%, so the expected outcome is 0.8DGB for each DGB that I bet.

It is simple as that. Neither dice games, nor your lottery makes anyone richer on average, but yours is even worse. truin was so nice to do the above calculation in detail.

By the way, I am not stealing your idea. You are stealing the idea from the USDE board. I wonder why DigiByte even trusts you - would not be surprised if you just keep all the DGB without drawing anything with those kind of respect-less posts in this thread.

As the last couple of pages filled this thread with this pointless and scammy-looking lottery, it damages even the reputation of this coin. And if you take a closer look into my signature, you can be assured that I only want the best for this currency.

The next time I see the Dev around in the IRC, I will encourage him to stop promoting this lottery the way it is. I really see my support for this coin at risk if DigiByte keeps supporting this.
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January 22, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
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If anyone has a great idea on to what the best way to do the lottery is please let us know. We ourselves were thinking of a fair & transparent way to do this.

1. Payout at least 95%
2. Only accept tickets from users here in the board that created an account more than 2 weeks ago (otherwise the creator of the lottery could easily set up a new account himself that wins)
3. Let digibyte announce the winner
4. Reveal how the draw will be done to prove randomness


1. Why not make it 101% payout  Smiley
2. Great - so about 3 people will buy tickets??
3. He is now.
4. Yeah, put it on CNN

 Grin

Any of those dice games or bet races give me a higher chance to win, so no reason for me and many others to participate. The USDE lottery even paid out more than that.Wink

And I believe that all of my 4 points are valid points, but your replies have shown that you do not want to take them serious and even made fun about it, so my little trust in this is now completely gone. Smiley

Maybe, I will start my own lottery where all those 4 points will apply.

I can't see that you even have a single valid point, all I see is that you would like to steal my idea. Please stop trolling, your close to being a Gingermod2.

Those dice games are set up for ALL of you to lose against the "house". They are meant to be played again and again and again in a short period of time and you lose a little almost all the time. If you play that boring dicegame for an hour you will probably have lost 95% of your funds - giving a payout in real termes of 5%. Play the dicegame with 50,000 DGB for an hour and your left with 2,500 DGB, making a loss of 47,500. Any of those dicegames or bet races will make you broke.

Play the DigiByte Lottery on the other hand and you may win up to 300,000 DGB.

Dice games have an house edge of 2-4%, means an 48% that doubles your bet, so the expected outcome is 0.92-0.96DGB for each 1 DGB bet.You are offering a payout of 80%, so the expected outcome is 0.8DGB for each DGB that I bet.

It is simple as that. Neither dice games, nor your lottery makes anyone richer on average, but yours is even worse. truin was so nice to do the above calculation in detail.

By the way, I am not stealing your idea. You are stealing the idea from the USDE board. I wonder why DigiByte even trusts you - would not be surprised if you just keep all the DGB without drawing anything with those kind of respect-less posts in this thread.

As the last couple of pages filled this thread with this pointless and scammy-looking lottery, it damages even the reputation of this coin. And if you take a closer look into my signature, you can be assured that I only want the best for this currency.

The next time I see the Dev around in the IRC, I will encourage him to stop promoting this lottery the way it is. I really see my support for this coin at risk if DigiByte keeps supporting this.

As far as I know, DigiByte/Tate/The Devs do not support the Lottery.  There was a request for them to roll the random number and they agreed figuring some oversight is better than no oversight.  That was, of coarse, before this whole tirade Sad

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January 22, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
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If anyone has a great idea on to what the best way to do the lottery is please let us know. We ourselves were thinking of a fair & transparent way to do this.

1. Payout at least 95%
2. Only accept tickets from users here in the board that created an account more than 2 weeks ago (otherwise the creator of the lottery could easily set up a new account himself that wins)
3. Let digibyte announce the winner
4. Reveal how the draw will be done to prove randomness


1. Why not make it 101% payout  Smiley
2. Great - so about 3 people will buy tickets??
3. He is now.
4. Yeah, put it on CNN

 Grin

Any of those dice games or bet races give me a higher chance to win, so no reason for me and many others to participate. The USDE lottery even paid out more than that.Wink

And I believe that all of my 4 points are valid points, but your replies have shown that you do not want to take them serious and even made fun about it, so my little trust in this is now completely gone. Smiley

Maybe, I will start my own lottery where all those 4 points will apply.

I can't see that you even have a single valid point, all I see is that you would like to steal my idea. Please stop trolling, your close to being a Gingermod2.

Those dice games are set up for ALL of you to lose against the "house". They are meant to be played again and again and again in a short period of time and you lose a little almost all the time. If you play that boring dicegame for an hour you will probably have lost 95% of your funds - giving a payout in real termes of 5%. Play the dicegame with 50,000 DGB for an hour and your left with 2,500 DGB, making a loss of 47,500. Any of those dicegames or bet races will make you broke.

Play the DigiByte Lottery on the other hand and you may win up to 300,000 DGB.

Dice games have an house edge of 2-4%, means an 48% that doubles your bet, so the expected outcome is 0.92-0.96DGB for each 1 DGB bet.You are offering a payout of 80%, so the expected outcome is 0.8DGB for each DGB that I bet.

It is simple as that. Neither dice games, nor your lottery makes anyone richer on average, but yours is even worse. truin was so nice to do the above calculation in detail.

By the way, I am not stealing your idea. You are stealing the idea from the USDE board. I wonder why DigiByte even trusts you - would not be surprised if you just keep all the DGB without drawing anything with those kind of respect-less posts in this thread.

As the last couple of pages filled this thread with this pointless and scammy-looking lottery, it damages even the reputation of this coin. And if you take a closer look into my signature, you can be assured that I only want the best for this currency.

The next time I see the Dev around in the IRC, I will encourage him to stop promoting this lottery the way it is. I really see my support for this coin at risk if DigiByte keeps supporting this.

A dicegamescammer would say something like that - spreading more lies and bullshit. Thats what you do isn't it LOL
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January 22, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.

What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking on you dicescammers.
My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better off playing the lottery where you may actually WIN.

What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 DGB 1.Prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves.

How are you going to lie your way around that??
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January 22, 2014, 12:00:14 PM
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.

What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking you dicescammers.
My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better of playing the lottery where you may actually WIN.

What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 1.prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves.

How are you going to lie your way around that??

Nobody here is a dice scammer - what everyone is saying here is that you loose less (you do not win either) when you play the dice game on average compared to your lottery game or simply tell me from truin's calculation where he is wrong? Again EV of dicegameis around 0.97, whereas the lottery has an EV of 0.8. Any EV smaller than 1 means that you loose on average.

Please take a few classes on probability calculation before you keep posting.
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January 22, 2014, 12:06:28 PM
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.

What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking you dicescammers.
My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better of playing the lottery where you may actually WIN.

What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 1.prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves.

How are you going to lie your way around that??

Nobody here is a dice scammer - what everyone is saying here is that you loose less (you do not win either) when you play the dice game on average compared to your lottery game or simply tell me from truin's calculation where he is wrong? Again EV of dicegameis around 0.97, whereas the lottery has an EV of 0.8. Any EV smaller than 1 means that you loose on average.

Please take a few classes on probability calculation before you keep posting.

I have a degree in economics, how do you like that  Smiley Anybody playing the dicegame for an hour will lose through their teeth. FACT.
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January 22, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.

What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking you dicescammers.
My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better of playing the lottery where you may actually WIN.

What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 1.prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves.

How are you going to lie your way around that??

Oh dear, once again I'm not affiliated with the dicegame.

Also again, you are calling your competition a scam with no proof of it being a scam. (you have the Burden of Proof)

You are destroying your entrepreneuring effort with your rabid posts.

Does your posts put out a professional image of your service?
Step into your potential customers shoes. Would you trust a service provider who calls competitioners scammers with no proof? Would you trust a service provider who lashes out on potential customers?
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January 22, 2014, 12:16:01 PM
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Alright, let's give it a rest. Deal  Smiley
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January 22, 2014, 12:18:26 PM
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.

Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers.

What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking you dicescammers.
My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better of playing the lottery where you may actually WIN.

What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 1.prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves.

How are you going to lie your way around that??

Nobody here is a dice scammer - what everyone is saying here is that you loose less (you do not win either) when you play the dice game on average compared to your lottery game or simply tell me from truin's calculation where he is wrong? Again EV of dicegameis around 0.97, whereas the lottery has an EV of 0.8. Any EV smaller than 1 means that you loose on average.

Please take a few classes on probability calculation before you keep posting.

I have a degree in economics, how do you like that  Smiley Anybody playing the dicegame for an hour will lose through their teeth. FACT.
Hm,so obviously you could not tell me what is wrong with truin's calculation so I assume you agree with it.


To make it clear for all your lottery example first:
You will earn 150 (number of tickets) * 4000DGB = 600000DGB
You can win a total of + 300000 + 120000 + 60000 = 480000DGB
Banks profit is 120000DGB or divided by the number of tickets (120000DGB / 150) =
800DGB bank profit / lose for the gambler per ticket of your lottery

Let's assume a dice game with 2% edge
DGB per bet = 4000DGB and 150 draws = 600000DGB total bet to have it similar to your lottery
In 48% of the cases I can double my bet (48% of 150 draws are 72) = 72 * 8000 (doubled bet) = 576000DGB - in the other 78 draws I loose
Bank profit after 150 draws: 24000DGB which makes 28000/150 =
160DGB profit  for the bank / lose for the gamer per draw in a dice game

No idea where you got your degree from, but if you are that smart then show me the mistake here.
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