zaloultra
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January 22, 2014, 12:27:42 PM |
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You dicegame people are so full of shit. Why don't you get a real job instead of tricking people out of their funds and only make yourselves Rich. You only think aboyt yourselves you psychopathic highway robbers. Quit your lies and veiled threats you naste scumbags.
Stop and think what kind of an image you give out to your potential customers. What, telling the truth about your dicescam. I knew there would be hell to pay taking you dicescammers. My message is simple. Dont play the dicegame. Its a rigged scam. Your much better of playing the lottery where you may actually WIN. What's there not to like about that. Do you dicescammers have a 300,000 1.prize?? The lottery does. All you dicescammers do is make people broke, all but yourselves. How are you going to lie your way around that?? Nobody here is a dice scammer - what everyone is saying here is that you loose less (you do not win either) when you play the dice game on average compared to your lottery game or simply tell me from truin's calculation where he is wrong? Again EV of dicegameis around 0.97, whereas the lottery has an EV of 0.8. Any EV smaller than 1 means that you loose on average. Please take a few classes on probability calculation before you keep posting. I have a degree in economics, how do you like that Anybody playing the dicegame for an hour will lose through their teeth. FACT. Hm,so obviously you could not tell me what is wrong with truin's calculation so I assume you agree with it. To make it clear for all your lottery example first: You will earn 150 (number of tickets) * 4000DGB = 600000DGB You can win a total of + 300000 + 120000 + 60000 = 480000DGB Banks profit is 120000DGB or divided by the number of tickets (120000DGB / 150) = 800DGB bank profit / lose for the gambler per ticket of your lotteryLet's assume a dice game with 2% edge DGB per bet = 4000DGB and 150 draws = 600000DGB total bet to have it similar to your lottery In 48% of the cases I can double my bet (48% of 150 draws are 72) = 72 * 8000 (doubled bet) = 576000DGB - in the other 78 draws I loose Bank profit after 150 draws: 24000DGB which makes 28000/150 = 160DGB profit for the bank / lose for the gamer per draw in a dice gameNo idea where you got your degree from, but if you are that smart then show me the mistake here. Your main mistake is a 150 draws, how many times can you click a mouse in one hour, not to mention two hours- it's a hellofalot more than 150 LOL which would send Your losses skyrocketing. But whatever, should we leave it at at, or should we go on for another hour or two
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Zukii
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January 22, 2014, 12:53:33 PM |
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This argument is retarded.
For a start, playing 1 ticket is the same as rolling the dice once with the same odds of winning. Dice gives you more options and you can repeat bets a lot quicker (instead of waiting for more lottery draws) but the idea is still THE SAME. Just because you *can* continue rolling dice, doesn't mean that the dice game is more rigged than the lottery.
In this example if you took a 1% dice game with 1/150 chance to win (same as the lottery) then the payout would be 150 *0.99 = 148.5x. For a 4,000 DGB bet this equates to: 594,000 DGB. EV of this bet is -40 DGB per roll (you lose 40 DGB every time you click)
That's a one off dice spin of 4,000 DGB with 1/150 chance to win (provided that the site has a high enough bankroll).
The chance of winning the lottery on here is 1/150 but the payout is 300,000 DGB (with 2nd and 3rd prizes that total 180,000). EV of this bet is -800 DGB / ticket.
*edit* - Either way, this isn't the place to discuss how much Digibytes one can lose by gambling.
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Johnster03
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January 22, 2014, 01:11:08 PM |
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This argument is retarded.
For a start, playing 1 ticket is the same as rolling the dice once with the same odds of winning. Dice gives you more options and you can repeat bets a lot quicker (instead of waiting for more lottery draws) but the idea is still THE SAME. Just because you *can* continue rolling dice, doesn't mean that the dice game is more rigged than the lottery.
In this example if you took a 1% dice game with 1/150 chance to win (same as the lottery) then the payout would be 150 *0.99 = 148.5x. For a 4,000 DGB bet this equates to: 594,000 DGB. EV of this bet is -40 DGB per roll (you lose 40 DGB every time you click)
That's a one off dice spin of 4,000 DGB with 1/150 chance to win (provided that the site has a high enough bankroll).
The chance of winning the lottery on here is 1/150 but the payout is 300,000 DGB (with 2nd and 3rd prizes that total 180,000). EV of this bet is -800 DGB / ticket.
*edit* - Either way, this isn't the place to discuss how much Digibytes one can lose by gambling.
Thanks zukii for the support and I could not agree more. zaloultra also forgets that you can buy as many tickets as you want, so let me buy all 150 tickets for 4000 each and I get 3200 per ticket back I believe his "economics degree "refers to his math classes in middle-school. Probability and EV is not a time related value, it is always per bet.
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Gunther
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January 22, 2014, 01:17:17 PM |
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Any updates on real exchanges?
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sammy007
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January 22, 2014, 01:33:18 PM |
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Any updates on real exchanges? What have you done to push DGB to exchanges?
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Gunther
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January 22, 2014, 01:37:50 PM |
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Same as you. Vote, spam, support.
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sammy007
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January 22, 2014, 01:40:00 PM |
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Same as you. Vote, spam, support.
What about mining?
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Gunther
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January 22, 2014, 01:48:34 PM |
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Same as you. Vote, spam, support.
What about mining? Yeah, that too of course. But that isn't supporting, that's just pure greed.
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iikun
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January 22, 2014, 02:10:48 PM |
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Same as you. Vote, spam, support.
What about mining? Yeah, that too of course. But that isn't supporting, that's just pure greed. mining=greed is a new one to me. (and probably the entire crypto community)
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halinyo
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The future is bright with DigiByte.
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January 22, 2014, 02:15:33 PM |
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Buy digibyte and hold it. Very soon to explode!
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Gazza1
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January 22, 2014, 02:18:02 PM |
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Buy digibyte and hold it. Very soon to explode!
agreed, big time
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Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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pickaxe.cc
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January 22, 2014, 02:24:26 PM |
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Buy digibyte and hold it. Very soon to explode!
+1 value is now VERY underestimated
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mikii
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January 22, 2014, 02:32:05 PM |
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Buy digibyte and hold it. Very soon to explode!
until no serious investors in DGB, and without investment it will not explode. dev team need to look for investors, or it will be another failed coin
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sakkosekk
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January 22, 2014, 02:42:21 PM |
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Buy digibyte and hold it. Very soon to explode!
until no serious investors in DGB, and without investment it will not explode. dev team need to look for investors, or it will be another failed coin As long as the community keeps on being active and Digi becomes more popular it might just explode.
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montecristo83
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January 22, 2014, 03:23:00 PM |
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Been mining here for a while. Thanks for providing this pool! It's a great pool that have enhanced security. In order to change any account info you must not only enter your pin, but also confirm the change via email confirmation. Which is something very few pools do! Oh, and there are no fees! (Just realized I'm the top donor btw :p)
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pickaxe.cc
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January 22, 2014, 03:28:50 PM |
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from: support@cryptsy.comThank you for introducing this coin to us. We will take a look at the coin and consider it for addition. BitJohn Operations Manager bitjohn@cryptsy.com
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tootapple
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January 22, 2014, 03:35:15 PM |
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Been mining here for a while. Thanks for providing this pool! It's a great pool that have enhanced security. In order to change any account info you must not only enter your pin, but also confirm the change via email confirmation. Which is something very few pools do! Oh, and there are no fees! (Just realized I'm the top donor btw :p) I mine there as well. Solid pool.
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pickaxe.cc
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January 22, 2014, 03:45:35 PM |
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Let's hope so
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