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New videos about Nxt: http://youtu.be/69kaz3D7m4s + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuZH3a5MKik

NxtMarketing account is looking for donators: 2037401990853753795

Press Releases:
3 January 2014: NXT Official Launch ­ NXT Generation of Cryptocurrency Begins Now
18 February 2014: New Nxt Clients (http://bitcoinnewsbrief.com/blog/2014/02/25/press-release-new-nxt-clients/)

Nxt Whitepaper:
In progress: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt

Nxt Videos


Marketing groups:
Sign up: Nxteam gdoc (public gathering) and Volunteer Questionaire (non public gathering)

Recruiting: NXT Mobile Applications Company | Translating Nxt Wiki | Newsletter
Nxt Swarms:

Video projects:
Nxt Video Documentary: Alias (2162214990048874764) Summer
Nxt myths: Salsacz (15003961341330858247) February
Nxt vs. Bitcoin
Nxt vs. Fiat

Graphic projects: NXT Branding Resources, Business cards,  Brochures, Flyers, posters , Infographics, Infographics at the web

Conferences:Austin/Texas (March 5/6), San Francisco (March 25/26), New York (April 7/8), Toronto (April 11/13), Amsterdam (May), Washington (June 20/22), Hong Kong (June 24/25), Melbourne (July 10/11), London (September 10), Shanghai (September), Las Vegas (October 6/7)

Gaming tournaments: Starcraft | Poker (+Pokerstrategy) | Chess tournament (by: kunibopl) | PRO chess | League of Legends, Dota2, Starcraft 2, CoD: Ghost, Battlefield 4, Coraabia online trading card game

Books:
Letitia Gage: Nxt Generation of Cryptocurrency

Our Articles:
Anon136: Why NXT ought to be taken seriously / Chinese (为什么我们应该重视Nxt?) / Miramare's Chinese translation / Spanish / Russian

Come-from-Beyond: Transparent mining, or What makes Nxt a 2nd generation currency

Damelon: Why did I invest in Nxt

Ebereon: Howto Solar forging NXT with Raspberry PI + pictures

frmelin:
- How is Nxtcoin (NXT) Proof of Stake and Transparent Forging better than Proof of Work systems?
- Financial decentralization leads to financial freedom!
- NXT solution to payment terminal
- The more we decentralize, the better… Is it, really?
- NXT Solutions – financial decentralization

Jimmy2011: Nxt: the most decentralized crypto p2p currency

NxtMinnow:
- Open source cryptocurrency Nxt is now finishing testing Asset Exchange and was added on Cryptsy
- Nxt Lowers the Cost of Business
- Nxt: Warning and Invitation to Centralized Exchanges
- An Invitation To Universities and Academic Researchers
- Governance and Stake in Nxt Cryptocurrency Ecosystem
- Try the silky smooth Nxt Asset Exchange today!

Opticalcarrier: Whats NXT in the World of Cryptocurrencies? / Spanish / Chinese / Russian  / German / Dutch

Psybits: What is Nxt (press release)

Romyen: Why Market Capitalization is a bad Metric for Bitcoin

Salsacz:
- Where is Nxt from Original Stakeholders? | Dec 22, 2013 - when Nxt Aliases started
- 1. Nxt is not a scam, it wasn’t created by anonymous developers / Chinese
- 2. The unfair distribution of Nxt / Chinese
- What is Nxt community
- http://justpaste.it/nxt-introduction-4-journalists
- Decentralized internet and Nxt solutions (Chinese)
- (+ Damelon: ) Press Release: New Nxt Clients
- A letter for exchanges and shops sent to: http://i.imgur.com/36PESUM.jpg + http://imgur.com/0GIBHfl

Utopianfuture: What is the monetary value and future of the Nxt alias system? | First document of Nxt asset exchange


Theses:
Hassen Blasquess: What are the economic parameters of Nxt?

hughmanwho et Secondleo: Nxt Network: Energy and Cost Efficiency Analysis

mthcl: The math of Nxt forging

Nxt Crypto Review of Curve25519.java & Crypto.java: https://gist.github.com/doctorevil/9521116

Salsacz: Nxt Myths: What should we know about Nxt generation PoS cryptocurrency



Published articles:
Outperform Magazine
http://www.scribd.com/doc/214163135/Nxt-in-Outperform-Magazine
Bitcoin Magazine
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9826/nxt-proof-stake-new-alternative-altcoin/
Coindesk:
http://www.coindesk.com/altcoin-nxt-listed-bter-exchange/
Cryptocoins news
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/08/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-cryptocurrency-begins-now/
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/17/whats-nxt-world-cryptocurrencies/
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/14/nxt-crypto-coins/ (Russian: http://somewords.ru/next/nxt2.html
Crypto articles
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/2/17/nxt-press-release-february-2014
DC Magnates:
http://www.dcmagnates.com/digital-currencies-2-0-meet-nxt-the-next-ripple/
http://www.dcmagnates.com/nextcoin-yet-another-alt-coin-doubles-in-value-this-weekend/ (Russian: https://cryptohabr.ru/analytics/2014/03/04/decentralizovannyy-internet-i-nxt-chast-1.html)
http://www.dcmagnates.com/the-next-crypto-to-rally-nextcoin-showing-bullish-signs/
http://www.dcmagnates.com/nxt-exchange-dgex-scraps-fees/
Cryptosource
http://cryptosource.org/what-is-nxt-community/
http://cryptosource.org/open-source-cryptocurrency-nxt-is-now-finishing-testing-asset-exchange-and-was-added-on-cryptsy/
Cryptologs
http://cryptologs.com/nxt-nxtcoin-cryptocurrency-altcoin-exchanges/
Others:
http://www.ofnumbers.com/2014/03/04/chapter-3-next-generation-platforms/
http://www.ibusinessstudio.eu/4/post/2014/01/fledgling-altcoin-nxt-now-listed-on-bter-exchange.html
http://btcgeek.com/buy-nxt-coin-nxt-exchanges/
http://bitcoinvista.com/2014/02/03/nxt-proof-of-stake-and-the-new-alternative-altcoin/
http://bitcoinviews.com/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now/
Androklis Polymenis Donates 1 Million NXT Coins to Brain Preservation Foundation
https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2014/03/cryptocurrency-donations-to-alcor-and-the-brain-preservation-foundation.php
http://www.newchainontheblock.com/what-is-nxt-and-why-it-is-different/
http://www.todayscryptocoin.com/Nxt/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:NXT

Blogs
http://blog.gryfencryp.to/2014/03/17/nxt-coin/
http://breekmd.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/nxt-coin/

Czech
http://bitblog.cz/?p=779

German:
http://altcoinmarkt.de/?p=3537
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/alternativen-zu-bitcoin-kryptowaehrungen-boomen-a-955763.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=

Italian
http://www.tomshw.it/cont/news/nextcoin-promettente-criptovaluta-amica-dell-ambiente/53411/1.html

Turkish
http://www.cointrends.org/2014/03/19/nxt-yeni-nesil-kripto-para-birimi-2-0/


Partially about Nxt:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-mt-gox-fire-sale-jamaica-bobsled-rides-again-1436715
http://e27.co/bummed-bitcoin-check-cryptocurrency-alternatives/
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/fd3f9ad6-9a13-11e3-8232-00144feab7de.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/personal-finance/feed//product#axzz2wvSzJ3Pa (picture: http://im.ft-static.com/content/images/c73d3758-9b22-11e3-946b-00144feab7de.img)
http://vint.sogeti.com/bitcoin-2-0-freedom/
http://www.dcmagnates.com/any-coins-resistant-to-malleability-attack-mastercoin-explains-how-it-is/
http://tpbit.blogspot.ca/2014/03/crypto-20-systems.html
http://p2pconnects.us/2014/03/16/experiments-in-cryptocurrency-sustainability-2/

Other languages:
Dutch: http://www.nxtcoins.nl
Chinese: www.nxts.org,  forum: www.nxts.info
Russian:
- http://vk.com/cryptonxt
- http://nxtgirl.ru
- http://nextcoins.ru
- http://nextcoin.su
- http://nxt4all.co.in
Spanish: http://nxtspain.org
Swedish: http://nxtcoin-swe.net/

List of Nxt websites

Stores: http://nxtbay.com/

Gambling:

Visit also: Nxt full feature clients, Nxt web service providers, Nxt security and user interface, Nxt open source code flaw report

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January 12, 2014, 03:08:33 PM
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I'm so proud to be a Nxt'er  Grin

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January 12, 2014, 03:29:32 PM
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Hey salsacz, We should be updating this thread with regular NXT promotional news. We should plan ahead of adding information regarding

1. an interview (report) with NXT representative at Bitcoin Miami conference 1/25-26.
    an interview with NXT representative at Bitcoin conferences at Berlin and Amsterdam (dates ?)
    an interview with NXT representative at Inside Bitcoin conference at New York in April

2. local promotional effort such as in German, Chinese etc. communities

3. your media campaign plan

4. other significant type of promotional events  


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January 12, 2014, 06:14:35 PM
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Can you add the Dutch info site: www.nxtcoins.nl to the list, too?

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January 12, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
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Press Release submission report

Here is a list of websites, where was published our Press Release after I wrote them/registered there and published it myself:

I think we got media attention also thanks to my little media swarm, this is the list 45 hours after I wrote them Cheesy

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/01/08/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-cryptocurrency-begins-now/

http://news.silobreaker.com/nxt-launches-next-generation-of-cryptocurrency-5_2267650407671005227

http://www.mobile-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=91084

http://www.vocalcom.com/blank?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crm-daily.com%2Fstory.xhtml%3Fstory_id%3D91084

http://www.globalne.ws/Latest/D/4028810e436b0fbd01436f5924295921/NXT-Launches-Next-Generation-of-Cryptocurrency#.Us2OwlvuJmk

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/01/08/NXT_Launches_Next_Generation_of_Cryptocurrency/#/related_news

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=01300086TIHO&full_skip=1

http://www.cryptocoinmarkets.com/?p=59

http://virtualcurrenciesnews.com/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now-2/

http://bitcoinowl.com/nxt-official-launch-%E2%80%93-nxt-generation-cryptocurrency-begins-now

http://www.cio-today.com/news/NXT-Intros-Next-Gen-Cryptocurrency/story.xhtml?story_id=01300086TIHO

http://www.toptechnews.com/news/NXT-Intros-Next-Gen-Cryptocurrency/story.xhtml?story_id=01300086TIHO

http://suchcoin.net/2014/01/nxt-launch-next-generation-cryptocurrency/

http://www.quotecoins.com/nxt-official-launch-nxt-genera-381149836.html

http://bitcointradingroom.com/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now/

http://www.data-storage-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=91084

http://bitcoin-tech.com/blogs/entry/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now-1

http://zero-change.com/index.php/722-NXT-Official-Launch-%E2%80%93-NXT-Generation-of-Cryptocurrency-Begins-Now

http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2014/01/04/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now/

http://mobilitybeat.com/mobile-tech-today/157140/nxt-launches-next-generation-of-cryptocurrency/

http://www.bitcoinflex.com/nxt-launches-next-generation-of-cryptocurrency-newsfactor-network

http://www.acticals.com/nxt-launches-next-generation-of-cryptocurrency-newsfactor-network.html

http://blowstamp.co/2014/01/08/nxt-official-launch-nxt-generation-of-cryptocurrency-begins-now/

+ some Facebooks and tweets, like:
https://twitter.com/itnewz/status/420789855694512130

Community Currency Magazine · https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152185539623745&id=199052876795121

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January 12, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
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I wonder how many NXT oriented websites there are? Due to decentralization, impossible to know for sure, but I think it would be an impressive list if we can somehow compile it.

James

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January 12, 2014, 11:22:09 PM
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Nxt is going to be huge.

There is too much support and backing from the community to go unnoticed.

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January 12, 2014, 11:27:50 PM
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Nxt is going to be huge.

There is too much support and backing from the community to go unnoticed.

thanks for setting up this thread.

As of 2014-04-09 I no longer post as "Asian Prepper" and will post under my real name "Tai Zen" to eliminate confusion.

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I wonder how many NXT oriented websites there are? Due to decentralization, impossible to know for sure, but I think it would be an impressive list if we can somehow compile it.

James
I am building a list of Nxt sites in the googledoc, there are also social media sites or parking domains with contacts, I was contacting the owners when we changed the homepage:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=3

(in other sheets are developers, marketing people, all translators, bounties...)

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Great work.
And I will translate some to add them to chinese section of forum.
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Who would like to buy Nxt banknotes? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.17980;topicseen

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Nxt was gloryfied in Bitcoinmagazine by Vitalik Buterin Smiley
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9402/mining-pool-centralization-crisis-levels/

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January 13, 2014, 06:00:21 AM
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Andreas Antonopoulos has now mentioned Nxt a couple of times in videos, but I don't think he's aware of what it is yet (he described it this weekend as a layer on top of Bitcoin).  It would do us well to educate him and get his thoughts.

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This thread is a great idea. I support this.
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From the main thread. Please read, if you are a lurker and want to become a helper instead…  Grin

NXT NEWSLETTER

On the subject of info getting lost and most of us spending hours after hours on catching up on bitcointalk, nxtcoin.org, forum.nxtcrypto +

I have the time to tie a newsletter together a week - if somebody is willing to help me with info. I don't have the time anymore to trawl all the NXT-threads, but I can gather, sample and send the updates out, if I am feeded a resume from the different sources of information. 

NXTers on the mailing list will then get a chance to focus on their own battleground, while still getting the most important headlines from every other field of the NXT development (with links to the sources). Personally I like being up to date - also in the fields I am not capable of contributing to. And another plus: Important announcements for the community can easier reach everybody via a maillinglist.

We need at least one person from:
- Bitcointalk (main thread + various others) 
- Nextcoin forum 
- Forum.nxtcrypto 
to join this project and "feed" the newsletter resumes.
Info sent directly from developers or marketeers is of course also welcomed.

I don't have a thing (or NXT  Smiley) to give you in return, but contributors will get their acc number on their contributions - and more importantly right now: Help to organize the NXT stream of info.

/apenzl

Brainstorm on topics…
- Clients
- Security / interface improvement
- Arbitrary message and mobile app
- Features / source code development
- Promotion and marketing
- Attacks
- Quote of the week
- Bounties (new and ended)
- NXT initiatives / new sites / games / scams Smiley and so on…
- Open discussions (voting system, unclaimed coins, exchanges and so on…)

What this newsletter comes down to is in essence just answering everybody: Where are we now?How can I help? ….. What is NXT? Smiley

PM me if you want to contribute.

I posted this on nextcoin and forum.nxtcrypto too.

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=562
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2915.0.html

Please spread the word to other threads that you know of too, if you want this to happen.

Thanks!

Great. Love the speed of this thread.

Count me in! As you can see from my signature, I have compiled so many links for you Smiley

Thank you. Your compilation is a treause chest. Smiley

This is kind of scary, because I wanted to start a daily summary service for this thread on my blog at the Dutch nxtcoins.nl.
I'll probably still do that, as Dutch people need info, too, but it means I'm gathering topics anyway, so I'm available to help, too.

Great. Hopefully it will go both ways.  Smiley

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utopianfuture
NxtChoice
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Damelon
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January 13, 2014, 01:19:02 PM
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@apenzl, here are some of my thought on the newsletter idea. crossed post in https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=331&p=2432#p2432

We could follow similar template as the peercoin's newsletter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=369239.0, but do it in a more decentralized fashion. That is having many writings by contributors in a magazine style.

The newsletter could be divided into different sections such as : full clients update, new projects, promotional events, merchant adoptions, interviews etc. and we could have each section covered by a contributor.

There should be some editors whose English are fluent because we want the newsletter looking good.

So the organization could be as follow:

Editors: 1-3 people, tasked with proofreading submission, selection of submission, contacting with contributors to request contents
Contributors: 5-6 depending on the level of interest; tasked with writing what they follow and interest and what might be requested by editors.

Following this type organization, we can move from a simple newsletter to full-scale magazine easily when the time comes.

Finance: We should seek financial support from donors at the beginning. Eventually we could have funds from advertisement etc.
Contributors and editors are expected to do volunteer work in the beginning. Other compensations could be discussed later, but I think we need to emphasize on volunteer efforts here. You can't expect to earn anything much at this state or maybe even in the future. So volunteers are welcome, paid mercenary please go away.


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Last edit: January 13, 2014, 01:51:16 PM by utopianfuture
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@apenzl I think what you have in mind is more like a news-feed. I think we could go bigger and make it a bit more in depth magazine style. News feed will be included. But for news-feed only, we already have parallel threads here which act like a news-feed hubs.

So in case you want to stick you a news-feed newsletter only, you can collect update information from these parallel threads. We will try to keep it as updated as possible.

NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412138.0
NXT promotion and marketing progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.0
NXT open source code flaw report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.0
NXT web service providers tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412516.new#new
NXT security and user interface improvement - progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412547.0

NXT API thread 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313082.0 and 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406839

Probably need someone to collect other news from two forums. And that should be it for a news-feed newsletter.


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@ utopianfuture & apenzl : yes, as the main thread become unreadable, we must provide a newsletter. What about a blog ?
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January 13, 2014, 02:33:47 PM
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We could follow similar template as the peercoin's newsletter https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=369239.0, but do it in a more decentralized fashion. That is having many writings by contributors in a magazine style.
I agree. I get the peercoin newsletter too, and I like the simplicity.

The newsletter could be divided into different sections such as : full clients update, new projects, promotional events, merchant adoptions, interviews etc. and we could have each section covered by a contributor.
Exactly my thoughts. If NXT is to be divided into other categories like NXTmessage, NXTExchange and so on for promotional purposes later we can follow. Main thing for now is to get the info organized.

There should be some editors whose English are fluent because we want the newsletter looking good.
You got me. I work as an editor irl - but not in english. Wink

Contributors and editors are expected to do volunteer work in the beginning. Other compensations could be discussed later, but I think we need to emphasize on volunteer efforts here. You can't expect to earn anything much at this state or maybe even in the future.
True, that's important for everyone to understand.

Is Evernote safe to use for gathering and organizing the content? Everybody involved should be able to see, what others contribute with.

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@apenzl I think what you have in mind is more like a news-feed. I think we could go bigger and make it a bit more in depth magazine style. News feed will be included. But for news-feed only, we already have parallel threads here which act like a news-feed hubs.

So in case you want to stick you a news-feed newsletter only, you can collect update information from these parallel threads. We will try to keep it as updated as possible.

NXT full feature clients - progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412138.0
NXT promotion and marketing progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412243.0
NXT open source code flaw report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.0
NXT web service providers tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412516.new#new
NXT security and user interface improvement - progress tracking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412547.0

NXT API thread 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313082.0 and 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406839

Probably need someone to collect other news from two forums. And that should be it for a news-feed newsletter.

These links are great and should be in the newsletter too. But no, I'm not thinking of just distributing these. It could probably be okay with a newsfeed-compilation for the most dedicated in the community, but my idea is to make NXT and the progress of development understandable to "outsiders" too, as we want new adopters, we want to keep investors orientated, and the mainstream media too. They should have something to quote. Yes, writing will have to be done.

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