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[Artoodeetoo]

12 HR MACD building nicely

Based on history, I think this move up is about 20 - 25% started...

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[Artoodeetoo]

Tim Cook

We have a Human right to privacy... Someone needs to point out Dark Coin to him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11441265/Terrorists-should-be-eliminated-says-Apples-Tim-Cook.html

[Kai Proctor]

Tim Cook

We have a Human right to privacy... Someone needs to point out Dark Coin to him

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11441265/Terrorists-should-be-eliminated-says-Apples-Tim-Cook.html

You can be that someone Is he on twitter ?

[MasterMined710]

It did get stuck on 5 confrmation for about a minute. It was my first instantX and i saw the green circle right after i sent it but then i saw it said confirming 5 of 6. About a minute later it turned to a confirmed green check mark.

I still say instantX is too expensive for small amounts. For a $3 transaction it cost 30 cents. Is there some reason that transactions under 100DRK (or even 50DRK) can't be exempt and just pay a regular 0.01 or 0.001 transaction fee?
Somebody tried to explain it to me already but i still don't understand.

Yes because masternodes confirms 5 out of 6, the last one is a POW block confirmation.
I do think that sending 1-10drk a fee 0,1drk for IX is too HIGH.
There should be some "if then" code fee implemented.

Ok cool, so it did get confirmed instantly like it's supposed to, right?
Edit: Minotaur26 just answered my question, thanks

If possible i would like to see the fee lowered to 0.01 (3 cents) for anything under 100DRK. Only reason i can see for not doing it would be that it could cause some kind of spam attack.

The IX Fee is 0.01, which is 3 cents. Darksend has a 0.01-0.1 DRK fee depending on the amount you're sending (because it doesn't support change). So if you use IX+DS it appears much more expensive, but it's really just DS that's more expensive.

Ok thanks, I remember now someone saying that before. If we could get a 0.01 cap on darksend that would be great. So 6 cents total for a instantX + darksend transaction.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

It did get stuck on 5 confrmation for about a minute. It was my first instantX and i saw the green circle right after i sent it but then i saw it said confirming 5 of 6. About a minute later it turned to a confirmed green check mark.

I still say instantX is too expensive for small amounts. For a $3 transaction it cost 30 cents. Is there some reason that transactions under 100DRK (or even 50DRK) can't be exempt and just pay a regular 0.01 or 0.001 transaction fee?
Somebody tried to explain it to me already but i still don't understand.

Yes because masternodes confirms 5 out of 6, the last one is a POW block confirmation.
I do think that sending 1-10drk a fee 0,1drk for IX is too HIGH.
There should be some "if then" code fee implemented.

Ok cool, so it did get confirmed instantly like it's supposed to, right?
Edit: Minotaur26 just answered my question, thanks

If possible i would like to see the fee lowered to 0.01 (3 cents) for anything under 100DRK. Only reason i can see for not doing it would be that it could cause some kind of spam attack.

The IX Fee is 0.01, which is 3 cents. Darksend has a 0.01-0.1 DRK fee depending on the amount you're sending (because it doesn't support change). So if you use IX+DS it appears much more expensive, but it's really just DS that's more expensive.

Ok thanks, I remember now someone saying that before. If we could get a 0.01 cap on darksend that would be great. So 6 cents total for a instantX + darksend transaction.

This is not possible, due to the solution of the problem brought up here.

With these slightly higher fees, come much greater privacy.

[TanteStefana2]

Whoa...anonymousxx1503... I think that is an excessively harsh and uncalled for rebuttal of Tao's thinking. The Bitcoinrush guy is clearly not everyone's cup of tea but I actually thought the video was pretty good and I appreciate the time and effort the many people involved put into it.

Fortunately you're not the "CEO" as you would have unjustly removed a very hard working member of this team (and demonstrated a fear based culture common to the corporate world that's the very essence of what we're all here trying to move beyond). Tao might not be the world's most sophisticated marketing person but he's put a lot of content out there and brought many new people along to be interested in Darkcoin. His Twitter work and his dedication is admirable; all done off his own bat.

Perhaps you might reconsider your words. It's an open source volunteer community. That means there are going to be many viewpoints on what's appropriate, what's good, what's bad, what we should do and what we shouldn't. Tao's key point on the anniversary/birthday video is that it's created much conversation and much discussion. Yes, there probably will be people that will be turned off and there'll be others that will think it's great (like the many supportive comments in this thread after it first aired). Most product/service/entities make things in their early days which end up having some cringe factor later on; but that's what's so appealing about being involved in the very beginnings of something amazing like Darkcoin.

AMEN

Seriously, keep it up Tao.  And for those that don't like lightweight marketing like Bitcoin Rush (he does consider himself comedy, BTW) I completely agree we do indeed need to put up something straight and serious.  However, I do think that the Bitcoin Rush episode gave DRK a huge boost.  Also, BR updated the video after 2000+ views, then received 1300 more views plus those views on Darkcoin network, nearly 4000 views all together.  That's a LOT.

So lets stop fighting over the darkcoin episode.  It does talk to some people, I very much like it, but I was part of putting it together.  Instead, lets work on more videos.  The more videos, the more types of videos, the better for Darkcoin.  

[stealth923]

Minotaur - if you can organise a professional / animated video for Dark like bitcoin - I will be in to donate to make this happen.

[jiggytom]

-FYI-


MN Payments will begin in approx. 1 hour
(soon as I get home from work)

It was this month that some rogue node was collecting MN payments on the minute... Right?  What if it was minotaur's MN... Will he distribute the wealth?  Lol

[patrolman]

Minotaur - if you can organise a professional / animated video for Dark like bitcoin - I will be in to donate to make this happen.

I'll be happy to contribute as well. A clear and concise animation along the lines of the "What is Bitcoin?" video is exactly what Darkcoin needs

[onetime]

any more suggestions to improve this video?

-onetime

[toknormal]

******** Apple ? Goodbye ************

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972216.msg10616737#msg10616737

[GhostPlayer]

******** Apple ? Goodbye ************

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972216.msg10616737#msg10616737

 Why is that? Do you not believe what Tim Cook says?

[Minotaur26]

Minotaur - if you can organise a professional / animated video for Dark like bitcoin - I will be in to donate to make this happen.

I'll be happy to contribute as well. A clear and concise animation along the lines of the "What is Bitcoin?" video is exactly what Darkcoin needs

Thanks guys, I had time to think about this and will definitely coordinate an animated explanatory video. I was going to wait till Monday to start a discussion on it.  

My  main doubt is whether to do a video that explains Darkcoin by comparing it to Bitcoin and how is DRK different? Or, doing an explanatory video about Darkcoin without referring to BTC?  

Any thoughts?

[oaxaca]

do a video that explains Darkcoin by comparing it to Bitcoin and how is DRK different?

My Vote.  Donation pending.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Whoa...anonymousxx1503... I think that is an excessively harsh and uncalled for rebuttal of Tao's thinking. The Bitcoinrush guy is clearly not everyone's cup of tea but I actually thought the video was pretty good and I appreciate the time and effort the many people involved put into it.

Fortunately you're not the "CEO" as you would have unjustly removed a very hard working member of this team (and demonstrated a fear based culture common to the corporate world that's the very essence of what we're all here trying to move beyond). Tao might not be the world's most sophisticated marketing person but he's put a lot of content out there and brought many new people along to be interested in Darkcoin. His Twitter work and his dedication is admirable; all done off his own bat.

Perhaps you might reconsider your words. It's an open source volunteer community. That means there are going to be many viewpoints on what's appropriate, what's good, what's bad, what we should do and what we shouldn't. Tao's key point on the anniversary/birthday video is that it's created much conversation and much discussion. Yes, there probably will be people that will be turned off and there'll be others that will think it's great (like the many supportive comments in this thread after it first aired). Most product/service/entities make things in their early days which end up having some cringe factor later on; but that's what's so appealing about being involved in the very beginnings of something amazing like Darkcoin.

AMEN

Seriously, keep it up Tao.  And for those that don't like lightweight marketing like Bitcoin Rush (he does consider himself comedy, BTW) I completely agree we do indeed need to put up something straight and serious.  However, I do think that the Bitcoin Rush episode gave DRK a huge boost.  Also, BR updated the video after 2000+ views, then received 1300 more views plus those views on Darkcoin network, nearly 4000 views all together.  That's a LOT.

So lets stop fighting over the darkcoin episode.  It does talk to some people, I very much like it, but I was part of putting it together.  Instead, lets work on more videos.  The more videos, the more types of videos, the better for Darkcoin.  

+1

Thank you both for your support.

I will continue doing what I'm doing, and encourage others to do the same. Spread the word about DRK in whatever way you are comfortable with.

I also think more videos are a good idea. I will contribute to this cause.

 BTW, since our little debate here yesterday, I gained 100 followers! I guess controversy brings interest...

Cheers,

Tao

[MyFarm]

Darkcoin video:

[Video of NSA Headquarters]

[Cut to a room inside the headquarters with a man behind a desk at a computer clicking away and chuckling]

[In walks another man]

"What are you doing Johnson?"

"Checking out people's purchase history."

"New case?"

"No, I'm just bored."

"Umm, isn't that illegal?"

[Looks up ominously] "You know what we do to whistleblowers around here, right?"

[Looks scared for a second] "I'm just kidding Johnson, shit!"

"Come check this out then.  Look, Daniel Boggs in Asheville just bought a 12 inch dildo with his Visa.  HAHAH!"

[both men behind the desk]

"Bonnie Franks of Boise bought a 20 pack of magnum condoms with her Mastercard.  Hahahahahah, SIZE QUEEN!"

"Eric Snyder just donated $50.00 to Planned Parenthood with Bitcoin.  Yep, you're now on the list.  [click]"

"Denise Carpenter just bought lingerie with her Discovercard.  Let's check out her profile... "WOW!"

"HOLY HOT"

[look at each other then both reach for a bottle of lotion on the table at the same time]

[Cuts to black -- Display the following text]

Privacy is a human right.  Keep them in the Dark.

[Next screen]

DARKCOIN

[someredguy]

any more suggestions to improve this video?

-onetime

Very impressive. I like it. A lot. I didn't really like the banner of "drug dealers using it", but any publicity is publicity, I guess.

It might make sense to add a transition to "Darkcoin is being talked about in the media..." before you start to play the media videos.

Any way you could add the video of Evan talking about him devoting his efforts full time until next year? It might be helpful to show/mention that the codebase is based on bitcoin. Whatever features/code bitcoin adds, it will end up in Darkcoin.

Here's the source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin


Darkcoin has quite a few active developers other than Evan. Some of the more active contributors are:
#8vertoe
115 commits / 726,434 ++ / 718,127 --

#11UdjinM6
51 commits / 898 ++ / 699 --

#24crowning-
10 commits / 89 ++ / 35 --

#51schinzelh
4 commits / 122 ++ / 295 --

(Did I miss anyone?)

You may consider adding info about active community.

You could add some keystone retailers are currently accepting DRK like cryptopet and BigR.

Also, please add the 'be your own private bank' logo.

You may consider adding something about sporking.

[onetime]

any more suggestions to improve this video?
-onetime

Very impressive. I like it. A lot. I didn't really like the banner of "drug dealers using it", but any publicity is publicity, I guess.
It might make sense to add a transition to "Darkcoin is being talked about in the media..." before you start to play the media videos.
Any way you could add the video of Evan talking about him devoting his efforts full time until next year? It might be helpful to show/mention that the codebase is based on bitcoin. Whatever features/code bitcoin adds, it will end up in Darkcoin.
Here's the source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Darkcoin has quite a few active developers other than Evan. Some of the more active contributors are:
#8vertoe
115 commits / 726,434 ++ / 718,127 --
#11UdjinM6
51 commits / 898 ++ / 699 --
#24crowning-
10 commits / 89 ++ / 35 --
#51schinzelh
4 commits / 122 ++ / 295 --
(Did I miss anyone?)
You may consider adding info about active community.
You could add some keystone retailers are currently accepting DRK like cryptopet and BigR.
Also, please add the 'be your own private bank' logo.
You may consider adding something about sporking.

Thanks! I'll look at adding all these things to the video soon. Can you give me a link to the video of Evan you're talking about?

-onetime

[tungfa]

any more suggestions to improve this video?
-onetime

Very impressive. I like it. A lot. I didn't really like the banner of "drug dealers using it", but any publicity is publicity, I guess.
It might make sense to add a transition to "Darkcoin is being talked about in the media..." before you start to play the media videos.
Any way you could add the video of Evan talking about him devoting his efforts full time until next year? It might be helpful to show/mention that the codebase is based on bitcoin. Whatever features/code bitcoin adds, it will end up in Darkcoin.
Here's the source: https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin
Darkcoin has quite a few active developers other than Evan. Some of the more active contributors are:
#8vertoe
115 commits / 726,434 ++ / 718,127 --
#11UdjinM6
51 commits / 898 ++ / 699 --
#24crowning-
10 commits / 89 ++ / 35 --
#51schinzelh
4 commits / 122 ++ / 295 --
(Did I miss anyone?)
You may consider adding info about active community.
You could add some keystone retailers are currently accepting DRK like cryptopet and BigR.
Also, please add the 'be your own private bank' logo.
You may consider adding something about sporking.

Thanks! I'll look at adding all these things to the video soon. Can you give me a link to the video of Evan you're talking about?

-onetime

That video should be on here
but I am not sure exactly which one ether
https://www.youtube.com/DarkcoinTV

[Sub-Ether]

Howdy 

Tungfa, regarding cryptsy and at least 1 other exchange for comparision, I got an idea, why not stopwatch 7 or 8 of the major coins for deposit and withdrawal times in real time,I could bang em into a spread sheet or something, am not aware anyone else has done this? Hopefully darkcoin will be at or nr the top already, 30 second block times might take it for now-though they are not always as quick as they appear due to bottlenecks ...