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So yes there is ideology behind this coin : privacy, liberty, freedom, try to make the world less directed by "power" and more with the heart...
I hope that changing the name will not make the ideology behind it change too, otherwhise it will failed.
There's no ideology in something that nobody uses. The ideology's in the design, not the name. Vertoe is justified in leaving over not being consulted but less so over 'ideology'. It's not a rock song that's being built here it's electronic money. The name can easily be compromised without any loss of principle but the functionality can't. So Evan has got his priorities right in that regard. no. i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base. the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity. i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be. if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning? good luck What took you so long? This coin is nothing but a pump and dumper since the beginning. Same people same hype. Over and over again. Many of us saw this long ago and used this coin for what it really is. A profit generator. Darkcoin, Dashcoin, Shitcoin. Call it whatever you want. It's obvious what's going on. I bought back into this coin not because it has a future but because I knew these insiders were getting ready for another pump. I doubled my investment and am quite happy. Will I hold this shitcoin? No way. Not going to get caught holding the bag when one of the 10% that own 80% of the supply decides to get out. Decentralized? Goldman Sachs is more decentralized than this centralized cryptocurrency controlled by one person with a majority owned by a small group. Then there is the masternode centralization where the majority of the masternodes are owned by a few people. I brought this up a long time ago but was met with chants from the brainwashed cult members of fud fud fud. Well I have a chant of my own Truth Truth Truth! Let it drop back to around $2 and then get back in. It's probably got another pump in it. drop to $2 u must be dreaming bro...
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March 30, 2015, 04:14:17 PM |
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vertoe is very professional and adult. His analysis of why Dash is Digital Trash is very clear. All it takes is one unfortunate bus vs. coredev collision or (another) sudden change of mind, and this project is over. No amount of cultist hand-waving, rah-rahing, or high-fiving will dispel that cloud of well-founded FUD. Since he was the 2nd or 3rd most important DARK core dev, I'll take his word over your "gold donkey" pumping.
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March 30, 2015, 04:17:14 PM |
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Latest release does not compile, seems to be missing a file... configure.ac:114: required file `src/dash-config.h.in' not found any idea? What distro are you on?
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March 30, 2015, 04:17:24 PM |
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Someone wants cheap coins...
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March 30, 2015, 04:18:36 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
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March 30, 2015, 04:19:04 PM |
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March 30, 2015, 04:19:26 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
Welcome in friend Glad to see some hope in humanity,that I'm not alone highly interested on Development and productivity in a coin
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March 30, 2015, 04:21:40 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
Its a shame that a tiny minority of XMR supporters have had such a negative impact on their own interests but nevertheless...WELCOME
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ahoenk
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March 30, 2015, 04:22:28 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
good decision, monero will dump soon.... , when i see it in poloniex, its like only a couple people have a very much monero, so they control market, becarefull !!!! maybe icebreaker one of them he is a chip seller lol
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March 30, 2015, 04:23:47 PM |
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I think Golden Donkey can be the name of the troll of the month.
Someone instamine a golden donkey please.
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March 30, 2015, 04:26:31 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
Its a shame that a tiny minority of XMR supporters have had such a negative impact on their own interests but nevertheless...WELCOME +1 The trolls can troll until they're blue in the face, but the facts don't change. Thank you for joining us. I look forward to seeing you and other rightfully disillusioned former XMR holders around more often.
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March 30, 2015, 04:26:59 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
Thought you'd done that already
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March 30, 2015, 04:31:14 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
vertoe isn't part of the "Monero community" AFAIK. He is next to Evan and Edward an ultimate Darkcoin insider. I trust he knows WTF he's talking about when he says darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.
this currency is lead by a single person.
darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.
fuck this i tell you.
darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.
the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.
the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.
you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.
what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?
But please continue to ragedump XMR. We need those coins to find good solid long-term homes, not be held in the clutches of greedy Cult of the Golden Donkey scammers and pumpers.
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March 30, 2015, 04:31:40 PM |
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Monero community shows its nature, it has no time for developing, but has a lot of time for DASH trolling, so I've sold all my XMR and bought DASH today, because DASH community engaged in development, testing and productive discussions.
Thought you'd done that already I just saw your sig, what's a Tao ratio? How fast I cut down trolls?
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March 30, 2015, 04:42:07 PM |
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I just saw your sig, what's a Tao ratio? How fast I cut down trolls? Tao is a measure of how quick the wallet updates. Tao Ratio = ( seconds of real time spent updating ) / (hours behind of wallet to catch up ) Its a unitless (dimensionless) ratio as its a time divided by a time, (seconds / hours) I introduced it to help benchmark measurements for update times in wallets across various spec machines in order to find the fastest and best coins and configurations. Hope you like the idea https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-versus-bitcoin-versus-darkcoin-wallet-update-benchmark-times.4479/more coins are coming .. Edit : The tao ratio can start off very low, at the start of the genesis block due to the simplicity and size of the blocks, but it will generally increase as the coin ages, consider Tao as a performance indicator of the development of a coin over its lifespan.
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March 30, 2015, 04:43:55 PM |
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darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.
this currency is lead by a single person.
darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.
fuck this i tell you.
darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.
You're constant implication that this is somehow a negative aspect is misinformed at best. Every market/company/currency/whathaveyou on this entire planet can be traced back to either one or a handful of people. This is how the world works.
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March 30, 2015, 04:47:55 PM Last edit: March 30, 2015, 06:06:18 PM by s1gs3gv |
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Besides BitcoinWisdom are there any charting websites that show DASH with Bittrex, Cryptsy, Poloniex and Bitfinex quotes?
My cambioUno integrated asset management platform supports this feature together with integrated trading, alerts, automated tasks and more. An open beta is scheduled for next month sometime. Send me a PM if interested.
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March 30, 2015, 04:49:30 PM |
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upgraded to new wallet without problems on ubuntu. Thanks!
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March 30, 2015, 04:50:27 PM |
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darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity.
this currency is lead by a single person.
darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid.
fuck this i tell you.
darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person.
You're constant implication that this is somehow a negative aspect is misinformed at best. Every market/company/currency/whathaveyou on this entire planet can be traced back to either one or a handful of people. This is how the world works. "Implication?" " FUCK THIS I TELL YOU" is a crystal-clear declaration that vertoe's points are describing negative aspects. I can't believe you'd try to spin something so obviously undesirable as a Good Thing. Try harder, or the Golden Donkey will be displeased!
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