LIGHTNINGASIC LA100M,100MHS SCRYPT Miner, USD1999; LA1THS, USD1750.shipped out!

[asiabtc]

Hi asiabtc, usually how much do you declare on customs invoice for a LA1THS? Shipping is handled by DHL or other couriers? And last but not least: in case of RMA, customer pay return shipping to china?

the value is up to client.
and we ship by dhl.
yes. in rma, clients pay return shipping to china.we pay to send back if not because of OC, etc.

[asiabtc]

Hi asiabtc, usually how much do you declare on customs invoice for a LA1THS? Shipping is handled by DHL or other couriers? And last but not least: in case of RMA, customer pay return shipping to china?

@RMA
From what I realized this month:
- in case of RMA you have to pay the return shipping to china
- You have a lot of struggle with the provided address
- You cannot find any phone number for the shipment on the website
- DHL fails to deliver at LightningAsic
- If you ask Jack to force DHL to deliver again he will not react (since 24 hours now)

if failed shipment, its because of the express problem.and we cannot force dhl to do anything. we shipped back ram in 48 hours.

[alexrossi]

Hi asiabtc, usually how much do you declare on customs invoice for a LA1THS? Shipping is handled by DHL or other couriers? And last but not least: in case of RMA, customer pay return shipping to china?

the value is up to client.
and we ship by dhl.
yes. in rma, clients pay return shipping to china.we pay to send back if not because of OC, etc.

For a such heavy package, how much dhl charge for a return? (I'm interested to ask basically because if it's very expensive, it can easily kill your ROI)

[bobby35ny]

LIGHTNINGASIC 28NM 100MHS SCRYPT Miner LA100M

In Stock: 4995 Piece
ship out end of Q3, early of Q4

Have you that in stock en you can deliver now or not???

LOL...

Well yes you cant say what your mind really screamed "I'm afraid of scam..convince me you are not BFL"
That is rude and LA has been saying many times that they shipped "million dollar miners" how can you doubt them.

So i'll give a tip for interested parties to help you ask about your doubts in a politically correct manner. The following is an advice from zeusminer founder how to pre-order. The key point is in bold.

In an industry so fraught with scams and costly shipping delays, what advice would you give to consumers looking to invest in mining hardware?

TL: Try to find proofs of legitimacy. Communication definitely helps. Proof of progress, etc. The most important is to look out for the tape-out time. That’s the major milestone. With that done, you can pretty much expect your miner in four months. However, the way the chip is packaged is important as well. Otherwise it will end up like Hashfast, with a super fast chip but no way to build it into [a] miner.

The last answer to the question "have you taped out" is within 4-6 weeks from june 11.
Interested buyers should ask the question from time to time.

The same ZEUSMINER that fucked all their customers because the power use tripled? LOL
-Bobby

[suchmoon]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

[xingqiaoyin]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

Well i'm betting LA is going to royally fuck their pre order, so i am actually on point.

[lightningasic]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

Well i'm betting LA is going to royally fuck their pre order, so i am actually on point.

Please stay away from our topic, you aint no customer of ours, all you do around here is to troll and spread hate.
You have ZERO experience with us, never talked with us, you never ordered from us.

[xingqiaoyin]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

Well i'm betting LA is going to royally fuck their pre order, so i am actually on point.

Please stay away from our topic, you aint no customer of ours, all you do around here is to troll and spread hate.
You have ZERO experience with us, never talked with us, you never ordered from us.

You should learn from zeus and expand your vocabulary don't just say things like
"we are the best"
"we shipped million dollars miners"
"stay away"
"We don't care stop trolling"

I'll paste the convo here i asked them about whether they'll become another cointerra

I'll try to be more specific on concerns
Terry how are you sure you wont encounter  issues like cointerra did ?
Tape out went well, prototype chip hash and watt on target
Their engineer prove it in youtube. Even with convincing videos
At assembly however something went wrong they couldnt make the promised
2TH and if not mistaken the wattage is off as well.

You have taped out well as you claimed but there are steps after tapeout  as well.
Are you convinced yourself you could meet your claim ?

we went through this route a bunch of times so we are very confident in avoiding pitfalls. but honestly, things might happen. aside from iterating through our own btc chip, we purchased a ton (10s of thousands) of chips from other manufacturers such as A1 and Avalon and went from there to see what might go wrong. so that gives us what we have now is not one, not two but three designs with different components just to prevent what might be going wrong. also if i may, we call it s-flex for a reason and we'll explain why in a bit after something soon we will be announcing. our thinking doesn't just stop at delivering a reliable product but also ease your deployment as well.

See that is called addressing concerns properly..improve your vocabulary and you'll convince more people. As other users pointed out zeus went wrong too.. They managed to become a better version of cointerra..they screwed customers with triple power consumption but better it out by delivering on time for most.

Now it's up to you ...  I thought you ignored me LOL...

Try this question

Hey LA i see you havent taped out but as in many preorder cases customers get screwed.. How can you be sure you can be better than zeusminer...they are slightly better than cointerra as they werent late but  that trifold power consumption sucks..i am asking since you HAVE NOT EVEN TAPED OUT yet.

[lightningasic]

We dont care about ZEUS , please stop TROLLING

[asiabtc]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

Well i'm betting LA is going to royally fuck their pre order, so i am actually on point.

Please stay away from our topic, you aint no customer of ours, all you do around here is to troll and spread hate.
You have ZERO experience with us, never talked with us, you never ordered from us.

You should learn from zeus and expand your vocabulary don't just say things like
"we are the best"
"we shipped million dollars miners"
"stay away"
"We don't care stop trolling"

I'll paste the convo here i asked them about whether they'll become another cointerra

I'll try to be more specific on concerns
Terry how are you sure you wont encounter  issues like cointerra did ?
Tape out went well, prototype chip hash and watt on target
Their engineer prove it in youtube. Even with convincing videos
At assembly however something went wrong they couldnt make the promised
2TH and if not mistaken the wattage is off as well.

You have taped out well as you claimed but there are steps after tapeout  as well.
Are you convinced yourself you could meet your claim ?

we went through this route a bunch of times so we are very confident in avoiding pitfalls. but honestly, things might happen. aside from iterating through our own btc chip, we purchased a ton (10s of thousands) of chips from other manufacturers such as A1 and Avalon and went from there to see what might go wrong. so that gives us what we have now is not one, not two but three designs with different components just to prevent what might be going wrong. also if i may, we call it s-flex for a reason and we'll explain why in a bit after something soon we will be announcing. our thinking doesn't just stop at delivering a reliable product but also ease your deployment as well.

See that is called addressing concerns properly..improve your vocabulary and you'll convince more people. As other users pointed out zeus went wrong too.. They managed to become a better version of cointerra..they screwed customers with triple power consumption but better it out by delivering on time for most.

Now it's up to you ...  I thought you ignored me LOL...

Try this question

Hey LA i see you havent taped out but as in many preorder cases customers get screwed.. How can you be sure you can be better than zeusminer...they are slightly better than cointerra as they werent late but  that trifold power consumption sucks..i am asking since you HAVE NOT EVEN TAPED OUT yet.

@xingqiaoyin you just come here broadcast the hate to LA. and you seem work for ZEUS miner. ok, let me give you offer.  if you are real buyer, don't care about the power, just care about the sotck ready, and price. ok, i can give you offer now: 14MHS, 500W blade, usd1100, include shipment.
if you come here again and again, i will make one offer to all ZEUS miner clients, i will give 5% discount based on ZEUS mine offer the same miners based on same chipset.
thanks.
Jack.

[asiabtc]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

Well i'm betting LA is going to royally fuck their pre order, so i am actually on point.

how will you bet it? if we ship out the miner, will you pay for it?
close your mouth, and go to sell your ZEUS MINER.
DON'T push me to public how strong your asic design team.

[asiabtc]

advice from zeusminer founder

Advice from zeusminer customer:

Quoting "zeusminer founder" on the topic of ASIC manufacturing is unlikely to strengthen your argument. You might want to double-check how it turned out for zeus.

i don't know why ZEUS miner guys all like come to this thread to broadcast the rumor of LIGHTNINGASIC.
go back to sell your miners.if you have more stock in hand, drop your price. and ship out it on time.
don't push me to public your things here.
thanks.
jack.

[asiabtc]

new price list:

LA90M - 10000 USD <including all accessories + DHL express shipping>

LA75M - 8300 USD <including all accessories + DHL express shipping>

LA30MB - 3300 USD <including all accessories + DHL express shipping, PSU NOT INCLUDE>

[alexrossi]

My last question: how long the warranty lasts, and the device is covered for factory defects?

[SwissHash]

I have still a broken unit at home a 780 GH AsicGen3 Miner, which was sent to me broken ...

I asked a few times for a compensation as I had first to work on the unit for hours to get 3 of 5 modules to work.

the other 2 modules are useless broken ... the unit runs at 380 GH right now ...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615985.msg7050270#msg7050270


SO I'm assking now here as my skype request aren't beeing answered ...

[04.06.2014 08:03:26] Swiss Crypto Mining: no it's running ... but only at ~400gh
[04.06.2014 14:57:10] Swiss Crypto Mining: it's under 400gh and takes more then 600W ... seems one of the 4 mudules is broken too
[04.06.2014 14:57:24] Swiss Crypto Mining: so only 3 modules working ... 2 broken ...
[04.06.2014 14:57:58] Swiss Crypto Mining: I'm really sad .. I was so happy when package arrived ....
[04.06.2014 15:50:50] Swiss Crypto Mining: so what do you offer me .... ? How can we end this deal with both having a smile in the face?
[05.06.2014 08:27:04] Swiss Crypto Mining: ?
[05.06.2014 09:26:55] Jack,LA300MN, SCRYPT-N miner,Pre-order $7999 only, Shipout Q3.: hi.
[05.06.2014 10:42:57] Swiss Crypto Mining: hi.
[05.06.2014 10:43:15] Swiss Crypto Mining: So what we do. Jack ... any way you can make me feel good again?
[09.06.2014 22:59:05] Swiss Crypto Mining: What are you intending for compensating me for that poor service?

[nemisan]

[05.06.2014 09:26:55] Jack,LA300MN, SCRYPT-N miner,Pre-order $7999 only, Shipout Q3.: hi.      OMG very professionnel.............

[lightningasic]

[05.06.2014 09:26:55] Jack,LA300MN, SCRYPT-N miner,Pre-order $7999 only, Shipout Q3.: hi.      OMG very professionnel.............

1. thats his Skype status , he said "hi" ;
2. professional not professionnel ;
3. are you a customer of ours ?

[asiabtc]

I have still a broken unit at home a 780 GH AsicGen3 Miner, which was sent to me broken ...

I asked a few times for a compensation as I had first to work on the unit for hours to get 3 of 5 modules to work.

the other 2 modules are useless broken ... the unit runs at 380 GH right now ...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615985.msg7050270#msg7050270


SO I'm assking now here as my skype request aren't beeing answered ...

[04.06.2014 08:03:26] Swiss Crypto Mining: no it's running ... but only at ~400gh
[04.06.2014 14:57:10] Swiss Crypto Mining: it's under 400gh and takes more then 600W ... seems one of the 4 mudules is broken too
[04.06.2014 14:57:24] Swiss Crypto Mining: so only 3 modules working ... 2 broken ...
[04.06.2014 14:57:58] Swiss Crypto Mining: I'm really sad .. I was so happy when package arrived ....
[04.06.2014 15:50:50] Swiss Crypto Mining: so what do you offer me .... ? How can we end this deal with both having a smile in the face?
[05.06.2014 08:27:04] Swiss Crypto Mining: ?
[05.06.2014 09:26:55] Jack,LA300MN, SCRYPT-N miner,Pre-order $7999 only, Shipout Q3.: hi.
[05.06.2014 10:42:57] Swiss Crypto Mining: hi.
[05.06.2014 10:43:15] Swiss Crypto Mining: So what we do. Jack ... any way you can make me feel good again?
[09.06.2014 22:59:05] Swiss Crypto Mining: What are you intending for compensating me for that poor service?

dhl damaged the miner. and 2 blade broken. i will give you one free blade ship with next order. you and me stand half to half.
by the way, i cannot reply every skype message on time. you can talk with andy or henry.
thanks.
Jack.

[nemisan]

[05.06.2014 09:26:55] Jack,LA300MN, SCRYPT-N miner,Pre-order $7999 only, Shipout Q3.: hi.      OMG very professionnel.............

1. thats his Skype status , he said "hi" ;
2. professional not professionnel ;
3. are you a customer of ours ?

are you a customer of ours ?
with your vulgarity I would not be one of your customer even if you give you products free......
learn respect.....

[SwissHash]

dhl damaged the miner. and 2 blade broken. i will give you one free blade ship with next order. you and me stand half to half.
by the way, i cannot reply every skype message on time. you can talk with andy or henry.
thanks.
Jack.

To be honest with you ... that is not an answer of a professional hardware seller ... I'm a customer I ordered Hardware at your store.

It's your duty to:

- send me the package, in a secured way which will survive the transport.

It's not the fault of the transport company, the modules where not secured for the transport!

The modules are heavy and should have been either send of separate outside of the miner or secured inside the miner.

You did a poor packaging, you can't blame the transport company for this !!! Your own words.

...
first version of la800g is not good for world wide delivery. we provide hosting for the buyer: 0.2usd/kwh. or refund.

Please offer me a refund, so I can send it back to you.