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May 23, 2018, 08:48:39 AM
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The price of Ethereum breaks the recent shock pattern of the box and enters the next section. 480 dollars may be a good location.
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May 23, 2018, 10:02:49 AM
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I am interested to find out more about ethereum scaling solutions. So far I've read about Raiden Network, Plasma / Plasma Cash, Striim (officially launched this week), Sharding and a bit about Casper.
With Raiden I am not sure why initially it was in the official Ethereum roadmap as "the lightning network of ethereum" or something like that, and now is a separate project. Nobody said anything about that but I think it's an important detail. Anyone knows? Looks like devs are still active on it.
About Plasma the issue with the exponential scalability resides in users having to download/authenticate each plasma block. So with Plasma Cash there would be an extra plasma coin with unique id created for every user every time they, say, deposit on an exchange and whatnot thus compared to Plasma have the only requisite to pay attention to the blocks that contain coins they want to track.
Then there's Striim by Hubii which is gonna bring an ethereum scaling solution and protocol but not too much info on it yet, other than the launch will be in a day or two and the striim tokens will be gradually airdropped to hbt token holders. Positive is their partnership with telenor which is gonna jumpstart the use of it for micropayments.
Differently from off-chain solutions like Striim and Raiden, Sharding is an on-chain scaling solution, i.e. it maintains all transactions on the original blockchain. Sharding basically allows for operations to run not in a linear way but simultaneously which results in higher TPS. In short with sharding the ethereum network is divided in multpile nodes (aka shards), which process all the transactions that occur within that group.
To me it seems sharding will be the most impactful but also will take the longest to implement; but being onchain it is also intrinsecally different from raiden and other offchain solutions which are easier to "plug" in the network do absorb dust transactions right out of the box.
Will offchain solutions continue to exist and be utilised even once solid onchain mechanisms are implemented?
I believe so. Scalability/security/decentralization is not only a trilemma, but really a cat-and-mouse game where you also have to compete against other aspiring networks and protocols which try to boost higher and higher tps (some of which aren't even a blockchain.. cough hashgraph cough..).
I agree with you, namely with your statement
"To me it seems like sharding will be the most impactful, but also on the inside, and on the other hand, it's also intrinsically different from raiden and other offchain solutions that are easier to plug in the network. of the box. "
It is these actions that should be carried out now.

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May 23, 2018, 06:51:48 PM
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I am interested to find out more about ethereum scaling solutions. So far I've read about Raiden Network, Plasma / Plasma Cash, Striim (officially launched this week), Sharding and a bit about Casper.
With Raiden I am not sure why initially it was in the official Ethereum roadmap as "the lightning network of ethereum" or something like that, and now is a separate project. Nobody said anything about that but I think it's an important detail. Anyone knows? Looks like devs are still active on it.
About Plasma the issue with the exponential scalability resides in users having to download/authenticate each plasma block. So with Plasma Cash there would be an extra plasma coin with unique id created for every user every time they, say, deposit on an exchange and whatnot thus compared to Plasma have the only requisite to pay attention to the blocks that contain coins they want to track.
Then there's Striim by Hubii which is gonna bring an ethereum scaling solution and protocol but not too much info on it yet, other than the launch will be in a day or two and the striim tokens will be gradually airdropped to hbt token holders. Positive is their partnership with telenor which is gonna jumpstart the use of it for micropayments.
Differently from off-chain solutions like Striim and Raiden, Sharding is an on-chain scaling solution, i.e. it maintains all transactions on the original blockchain. Sharding basically allows for operations to run not in a linear way but simultaneously which results in higher TPS. In short with sharding the ethereum network is divided in multpile nodes (aka shards), which process all the transactions that occur within that group.
To me it seems sharding will be the most impactful but also will take the longest to implement; but being onchain it is also intrinsecally different from raiden and other offchain solutions which are easier to "plug" in the network do absorb dust transactions right out of the box.
Will offchain solutions continue to exist and be utilised even once solid onchain mechanisms are implemented?
I believe so. Scalability/security/decentralization is not only a trilemma, but really a cat-and-mouse game where you also have to compete against other aspiring networks and protocols which try to boost higher and higher tps (some of which aren't even a blockchain.. cough hashgraph cough..).

They held an ICO for the Raiden network and I'm sure that Vitalik was against it. Among all of these solutions my favourite is Sharding despite the fact that it will take more time to be implemented, I prefer an on chain solution

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May 23, 2018, 07:03:41 PM
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I wrote about Hubii's ethereum scaling solution Striim yesterday and there you go, it was just formally announced a couple of hours ago: https://medium.com/@jacobotoll/striim-hubii-is-scaling-the-ethereum-network-95f555d80fdc
Looks interesting, also for what concerns the "revenue will be generated from the moment Striim is deployed" part. The approach is more pragmatic and action-oriented rather than idealist/theoretical.
Seems like it will be deployed to the Ethereum public testnet in the coming week, and the whitepaper has been already written for what concerns the non-technical part (the rest will be prepared starting next week).

Thoughts?

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May 23, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
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The price of Ethereum breaks the recent shock pattern of the box and enters the next section. 480 dollars may be a good location.
Now the market is too difficult situation. But we will continue to believe that at the end of the year the price will be $ 2000.

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May 23, 2018, 10:36:56 PM
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I wrote about Hubii's ethereum scaling solution Striim yesterday and there you go, it was just formally announced a couple of hours ago: https://medium.com/@jacobotoll/striim-hubii-is-scaling-the-ethereum-network-95f555d80fdc
Looks interesting, also for what concerns the "revenue will be generated from the moment Striim is deployed" part. The approach is more pragmatic and action-oriented rather than idealist/theoretical.
Seems like it will be deployed to the Ethereum public testnet in the coming week, and the whitepaper has been already written for what concerns the non-technical part (the rest will be prepared starting next week).

Thoughts?
Yeah recently i read article about Hubii's ethereum scaling solution Striim. Here is the beginning of Hubii Project, they haven't collected enough funds
but Hubii team managed this project wisely. They haven't spend money to get list on exchanges.
Let's hope Hubii will compete bravely with raiden network. Well i am very excited about Striim and Hubii Film.
Now waiting for Striim airdrop, news will be publish in coming weeks.  Smiley

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May 23, 2018, 10:42:30 PM
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I hope that ethereum can be independent and not dependent with bitcoin, ethereum being the # 1 choice in china and with large transaction volume then when bitcoin price drop then ethereum price should have skyrocketed so soon become # 1.

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May 24, 2018, 02:26:02 AM
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It will not be that easy to immediately overcome bitcoin. Bitcoin is bitcoin. The mother of all coins. But surely, algo of bitcoin is being surpassed by the new coins. Ethereums infrastructure are slowly being layed world wide. When more and more have used it and experienced it. Transaction payments, sending and receiving money. Knowing a much lower transfer fees. May be later, it can surpass bitcoin. Time is an essence for ethereum.

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May 24, 2018, 02:29:08 AM
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I like ETH and mining ETH for everyday. But now mining very hard   Smiley

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May 24, 2018, 03:00:55 AM
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I wrote about Hubii's ethereum scaling solution Striim yesterday and there you go, it was just formally announced a couple of hours ago: https://medium.com/@jacobotoll/striim-hubii-is-scaling-the-ethereum-network-95f555d80fdc
Looks interesting, also for what concerns the "revenue will be generated from the moment Striim is deployed" part. The approach is more pragmatic and action-oriented rather than idealist/theoretical.
Seems like it will be deployed to the Ethereum public testnet in the coming week, and the whitepaper has been already written for what concerns the non-technical part (the rest will be prepared starting next week).

Thoughts?

Was just looking for this.
Good news indeed.
The extent of Striim being a tokenized ethereum raiden-style ethereum scaling solution will possibly determine Buterin's stance on it. However regardless of this, Striim will be utilized since its launch and from there it will be an open-for-adoption protocol which many other projects based on ethereum will be welcome to use.
I think this is a great example on how even a self-motivated (read: evil capitalist) concept can actually help the ethereum network.
If Hubii is successful with Striim (and I am very confident it will be), in the future there will be further similar self-motivated offchain scaling solutions and this will only help ethereum. If to this we add the slow but steady progress of the internal scaling initiatives like sharding, the future of ethereum seems bright, no matter how these recent days of network congestion might have been embarassing and putting ethereum in a bad light (also because of the ressons behind the congestion).

By the way regarding Striim let's see how really tokenized the system will be.. as it looks like in practical terms the only tokens used for transaction will be hubii native ones (hbt) whereas the striim tokens will serve governance purposes.

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May 24, 2018, 04:36:38 AM
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Ethereum has entered a new adjustment cycle, and this adjustment target will be around $488. I have already prepared some USDT to wait for this price to buy.

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May 24, 2018, 04:43:00 AM
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Ethereum has entered a new adjustment cycle, and this adjustment target will be around $488. I have already prepared some USDT to wait for this price to buy.
where did you get this information ? can you share a link to an official source? I'm thinking primarily the price depends on the bitcoin rate and not on the setup

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May 24, 2018, 09:15:14 AM
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hey
someone would know why gas price doen't decrease under 12 Gwei for few weeks now?
i looked for if there was a new stupid kitty game but didnt found

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May 24, 2018, 09:22:00 AM
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hey
someone would know why gas price doen't decrease under 12 Gwei for few weeks now?
i looked for if there was a new stupid kitty game but didnt found

That is very common problem with this network it remain overload all the time so that it required high gas price to get confirmed quickly. I also didn't find any big kind of event on this platform for this problem.






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May 24, 2018, 10:02:15 AM
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hey
someone would know why gas price doen't decrease under 12 Gwei for few weeks now?
i looked for if there was a new stupid kitty game but didnt found

That is very common problem with this network it remain overload all the time so that it required high gas price to get confirmed quickly. I also didn't find any big kind of event on this platform for this problem.

This is not caused by dapps, but the demand to the ethereum is growing a lot. Did you see that the total transaction of ethereum platform has surpassed more than 1 million tx and it's more than bitcoin total transaction. I was monitoring the transaction on the ethereum blockchain anytime. Another real evidence the total transaction fees of ethereum growing a lot.

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May 24, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
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So are you guys gonna sell all the coins directly on exchange? Tongue

No, but seriously how are the coins getting generated if no mining is needed. Or just hold a wallet and keep it synced all the time and get reward?

Will keep an eye on this one!

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May 24, 2018, 03:16:20 PM
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hey
someone would know why gas price doen't decrease under 12 Gwei for few weeks now?
i looked for if there was a new stupid kitty game but didnt found
I also set gas price at 4 but there was no confirm transaction then i increased the gas price and set at 7.
Almost transaction take a 30 mins to get confirmed. I think Gas price will more high in coming months like last year.
Ethereum network need more development. Everybody know that ethereum will be cross ATH price so definitely network will be overload and gas increase.

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May 24, 2018, 04:42:20 PM
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I wrote about Hubii's ethereum scaling solution Striim yesterday and there you go, it was just formally announced a couple of hours ago: https://medium.com/@jacobotoll/striim-hubii-is-scaling-the-ethereum-network-95f555d80fdc
Looks interesting, also for what concerns the "revenue will be generated from the moment Striim is deployed" part. The approach is more pragmatic and action-oriented rather than idealist/theoretical.
Seems like it will be deployed to the Ethereum public testnet in the coming week, and the whitepaper has been already written for what concerns the non-technical part (the rest will be prepared starting next week).

Thoughts?

What's better than raiden here is the fact striim will be widely adopted and fully developed much earlier, and by price being largely end user demand driven, HBT will attract speculative action, the price will go higher, and consequentially VB will likely express some sort of disdain like he did with the raiden team. By the way VB only criticisms were about RDN's token and ICO, not the technology itself. If he hadn't shat on RDN's fund raising ethics, RDN market cap would be much higher than 80 million $.
One thing is for sure - VB will wait to thoroughly read the whitepaper before expressing an opinion. Which I am interested to hear.

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So ETH is going to use sharding to increase transaction speed?

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May 24, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
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So ETH is going to use sharding to increase transaction speed?

There are off chain solutions and on chain solutions, sharding is an on chain one, which is the better one right now, with off chain solutions you have to trust third parties

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