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July 19, 2017, 03:20:33 PM |
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Mist on Windows: how to import last transactions and contracts to new host?
I've given up on Github as these reports are never answered/resolved.
I've built a new computer (all ssd) and copied the ethereum blockchain directory tree to the new host and installed mist there. When running mist with the wallet keystore, the blockchain is all synched and wallet balance also correct. But the transactions history is blank and so are the contracts.
With all other crypto-coin wallets I see the same transactions in all my wallet installations, but with mist each installation is behaving as individual, disconnected and unique istances, apart from the wallet balance which is correct.
I don't understand how contracts and transactions are retrieved/stored by mist and why they are not showing up in mist when the entire blockchain and keystore is copied and in sync on local host.
How do I transfer transactions and contracts from one computer to another?
Hi rosmo01. Did you try to copy Mist's application data from your old installation to the new one (which is not the same than copying the blockchain data)? You can open the folder where the app data is stored by clicking on Mist on Accounts > Backup > Application data. You can also have a look on this issue on Github. If you still don't have your answer, then you should ask on the official subreddit where I'm sure plenty of people are skilled enough to help you. Thanks for your constructive response! I considered copying the application data, but dropped testing it as I am not missing application data but account data. But oddly enough the contracts and transactions are stored there and replacing appdata from first install of mist did the trick. Many thanks for pushing me to test the illogical :-) Mist is most definitely an oddball when it comes to crypto full node wallets and I must say that it makes no sense splitting account info like this and place account specific information in application data! I already considered that there was a delta of the account stored locally, but didn't consider copying the appdata as I run a full node with all wallet/account stored in blockchain, and should thus populate a local delta/app cache using the keystore and local blockchain - but my brain is used to the other wallets that are logical :-). Even the newcomer Ansthares/Neo is more logical. Mist doesn't even have a link to etherscan, so completely understandable that new users are using mew and shun mist. |
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vectisitch
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July 19, 2017, 04:21:12 PM |
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i feel ethereum put life back into gpu mining and has helped a lot of people. can you explain what exactly the difficuly bomb means? what will happen at that time for us miners? diff at the moment is rising so fast even with the drop in price over the last week or so the diff didn't seem to drop.
hopefully pos won't be implemented any time soon.
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July 19, 2017, 04:30:43 PM |
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Mist on Windows: how to import last transactions and contracts to new host?
I've given up on Github as these reports are never answered/resolved.
I've built a new computer (all ssd) and copied the ethereum blockchain directory tree to the new host and installed mist there. When running mist with the wallet keystore, the blockchain is all synched and wallet balance also correct. But the transactions history is blank and so are the contracts.
With all other crypto-coin wallets I see the same transactions in all my wallet installations, but with mist each installation is behaving as individual, disconnected and unique istances, apart from the wallet balance which is correct.
I don't understand how contracts and transactions are retrieved/stored by mist and why they are not showing up in mist when the entire blockchain and keystore is copied and in sync on local host.
How do I transfer transactions and contracts from one computer to another?
Hi rosmo01. Did you try to copy Mist's application data from your old installation to the new one (which is not the same than copying the blockchain data)? You can open the folder where the app data is stored by clicking on Mist on Accounts > Backup > Application data. You can also have a look on this issue on Github. If you still don't have your answer, then you should ask on the official subreddit where I'm sure plenty of people are skilled enough to help you. Thanks for your constructive response! I considered copying the application data, but dropped testing it as I am not missing application data but account data. But oddly enough the contracts and transactions are stored there and replacing appdata from first install of mist did the trick. Many thanks for pushing me to test the illogical :-) Mist is most definitely an oddball when it comes to crypto full node wallets and I must say that it makes no sense splitting account info like this and place account specific information in application data! I already considered that there was a delta of the account stored locally, but didn't consider copying the appdata as I run a full node with all wallet/account stored in blockchain, and should thus populate a local delta/app cache using the keystore and local blockchain - but my brain is used to the other wallets that are logical :-). Even the newcomer Ansthares/Neo is more logical. Mist doesn't even have a link to etherscan, so completely understandable that new users are using mew and shun mist. Yeah I agree with you that Mist isn't necessarily the most ergonomic solution out there but IMHO it certainly does the job. By the way you can open etherscan.io on Mist using the browse tool on the upper left and connect your account to it in order to have a direct access to it on Mist's sidebar. |
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rosmo01
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July 19, 2017, 04:48:21 PM |
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By the way you can open etherscan.io on Mist using the browse tool on the upper left and connect your account to it in order to have a direct access to it on Mist's sidebar.
That would be very useful, but I do not see any "browse" tool, nor do I have anything in "upper left"- The uppermost left is the window control, the line below is the menu toolbar, the line below is the wallet menu items. I've seen many wanting this, so it must be quirky to access. Please advise..... |
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Fargusson
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July 19, 2017, 04:53:44 PM |
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i feel ethereum put life back into gpu mining and has helped a lot of people. can you explain what exactly the difficuly bomb means? what will happen at that time for us miners? diff at the moment is rising so fast even with the drop in price over the last week or so the diff didn't seem to drop.
hopefully pos won't be implemented any time soon.
Here is an article explaining the difficulty bomb. Mostly programmed incentive to switch from PoW to PoS. |
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July 19, 2017, 05:15:00 PM |
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July 19, 2017, 05:18:32 PM |
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By the way you can open etherscan.io on Mist using the browse tool on the upper left and connect your account to it in order to have a direct access to it on Mist's sidebar.
That would be very useful, but I do not see any "browse" tool, nor do I have anything in "upper left"- The uppermost left is the window control, the line below is the menu toolbar, the line below is the wallet menu items. I've seen many wanting this, so it must be quirky to access. Please advise..... On Mist ( not EthereumWallet) 0.8.10 that you can find on github, click on the blue magnifying glass on the upper left, then type "etherscan.io" on the address line (the one showing "400.html" on the screenshot below).  You can then "save" etherscan on your Mist session by linking to your account using the "connect" button on the upper right. You will finally have Etherscan shortcut showing up on the left sidebar.  |
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rosmo01
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July 19, 2017, 06:04:34 PM |
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By the way you can open etherscan.io on Mist using the browse tool on the upper left and connect your account to it in order to have a direct access to it on Mist's sidebar.
That would be very useful, but I do not see any "browse" tool, nor do I have anything in "upper left"- The uppermost left is the window control, the line below is the menu toolbar, the line below is the wallet menu items. I've seen many wanting this, so it must be quirky to access. Please advise..... On Mist ( not EthereumWallet) 0.8.10 that you can find on github, click on the blue magnifying glass on the upper left, then type "etherscan.io" on the address line (the one showing "400.html" on the screenshot below). You can then "save" etherscan on your Mist session by linking to your account using the "connect" button on the upper right. You will finally have Etherscan shortcut showing up on the left sidebar. Thank you for clarifying. This means the wallet is still not providing users any access to etherscan. The extensive fragmentation of core functions and really confusing UI/UX management makes it necessary for me to withdraw from the mist/wallet bubble, as it is so disconnected from UI/UX best practices and have decided not to re-use already well established functionality in long time standing wallets. What made it for me was that when or if I chose to install mist, it has no clue as to the transactions made with the wallet app - on the very same computer. How do I import the transactions from the wallet app to the wallet in mist? In all other wallets the wallet file/keystore provides all that is needed to see all transactions in the wallet gui. The missing verification and reuse of exisiting data from wallet to mist wallet is just not cutting it, and I have to rest my case and use my time on wallets actually helping me administering my wallet/keystore and its transactions. This is so fundamental in UI/UX development, and I would accept it in a beta version, but this is just too much. And as the blockchain is now only possible to be synced fully on ssd drives, it is really not going to be long before the chain is so large that I have no real use for it. BTC blockchain is now 132GB and ETH is 60GB, but the syncing of ETH is becoming increasingly hard on traditional hdds, and even on ssds the wallet just crashes now and then. Fortunately the sync is really fast. Maintaining two apps/code bases is expensive and causes bugs. One app with both functionalities would make things faster and easier. Sometime in the future perhaps...... Thanks for your input, though :-) |
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July 19, 2017, 09:12:10 PM |
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July 19, 2017, 09:37:25 PM |
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Waves is doing an excellent job  Now we can trade ETH in Waves DEX (for the noobs: decentralized exchange in Waves Lite Client wallet) too |
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July 19, 2017, 11:01:00 PM |
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What would you say is the mainpoints of ETH over ETC? Is there really any difference at all besides the first being more expensive than the latter? What do you guys think.
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July 20, 2017, 12:10:56 AM |
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What would you say is the mainpoints of ETH over ETC? Is there really any difference at all besides the first being more expensive than the latter? What do you guys think.
-Development team -Development community -Market penetration I don't think ETC will ever really compete with ETH. The Ethereum chain is already seeing tons more usage than the ETC chain. In 5 years, when many of these projects have launched and are growing, no companies are going to consider using an alternative blockchain, simply because of the above points. |
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July 20, 2017, 01:58:39 AM |
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roselee
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July 20, 2017, 02:35:19 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back |
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July 20, 2017, 03:23:43 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back it has been said that the three addresses affected were addresses related to an incoming ICO ! |
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July 20, 2017, 06:00:29 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back it has been said that the three addresses affected were addresses related to an incoming ICO ! Does anybody know what project token or ICO was effected by this attack? A hardfork isn't the solution though....sloppy code will result in a messy outcome, so the solution is to not take risks with unproven code. This isn't the type of stuff for which a chain should be purposefully forked, right? |
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July 20, 2017, 06:27:54 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back it has been said that the three addresses affected were addresses related to an incoming ICO ! Does anybody know what project token or ICO was effected by this attack? A hardfork isn't the solution though....sloppy code will result in a messy outcome, so the solution is to not take risks with unproven code. This isn't the type of stuff for which a chain should be purposefully forked, right? The Eth developers set a principle when they fixed the DAO mess. Once you decide to move down a slippery slope I think it becomes difficult to operate in God mode to decide who gets saved and who not. It would have been much easier if the DAO hardfork never happened. Who knows going forward when Eth transactions will be safe and when they could be rolled back. How would the Eth team decide if they will save a situation or not? Maybe it depends on whose coins get hacked? Who knows what will come of this? |
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July 20, 2017, 07:53:24 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back it has been said that the three addresses affected were addresses related to an incoming ICO ! Does anybody know what project token or ICO was effected by this attack? A hardfork isn't the solution though....sloppy code will result in a messy outcome, so the solution is to not take risks with unproven code. This isn't the type of stuff for which a chain should be purposefully forked, right? from a tweet of @maraoz reported by zerohedge.com, edgeless casino, swarm city and aeternity blockchain were affected.. |
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July 20, 2017, 08:34:21 AM |
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now there needs to come a hard fork to give that coins back it has been said that the three addresses affected were addresses related to an incoming ICO ! Does anybody know what project token or ICO was effected by this attack? A hardfork isn't the solution though....sloppy code will result in a messy outcome, so the solution is to not take risks with unproven code. This isn't the type of stuff for which a chain should be purposefully forked, right? The Eth developers set a principle when they fixed the DAO mess. Once you decide to move down a slippery slope I think it becomes difficult to operate in God mode to decide who gets saved and who not. It would have been much easier if the DAO hardfork never happened. Who knows going forward when Eth transactions will be safe and when they could be rolled back. How would the Eth team decide if they will save a situation or not? Maybe it depends on whose coins get hacked? Who knows what will come of this? Yup, I was DAO investor....it was a big event. The ERC20 token ICO trend has scaled up quite a bit since then, however, and it's pretty much getting to the point where it's too big to mess with the code base for a mere 30 million dollars....Good point though--the slippery slope--who gets to decide if and how it's remedied? from a tweet of @maraoz reported by zerohedge.com, edgeless casino, swarm city and aeternity blockchain were affected..
Thanks. What amazes me is that if a brick and mortar lost $30M it'd be all over the news....We are in a brave new world! 7 million here! https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-ico-website-hacked-over-7-million-stolen-redirected30 million there! https://blog.zeppelin.solutions/on-the-parity-wallet-multisig-hack-405a8c12e8f7Mew...no biggie! The silence of this space in the mainstream media is deafening sometimes! |
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July 20, 2017, 08:43:30 AM |
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What would you say is the mainpoints of ETH over ETC? Is there really any difference at all besides the first being more expensive than the latter? What do you guys think.
Yes, there is huge difference when it comes to see which is being used and invested in , heavily by big investors. Being similar doesn't make ETC to compete with ETH and it will never do. It will work under ETH continuously as altcoin do for Bitcoin just like LTC. Someone already explained some big points why ETH is more important than ETC. |
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