Giveaway threads are not allowed

[roundrobin]

I don't see how this decision is promoting or helping cryptocurrency the least. It's just counter-intuitive, and a showcase of tiny-minded BOFHism. To increase awareness and use of cryptocurrency people MUST be allowed to promote, as long as they are not scamming miners or traders for their resources. I was spending a lot of time trying to promote a specific coin (which I don't dare to mention here in fear of getting banned by the trigger-happy admin) through a giveaway of my mined earnings, but now me and others are suddenly disallowed this participation.
 
You should make a subforum for it instead of just putting a gag on everyone, that way you get a cleaner announcement forum and we get to keep our ability to promote coins.

[KeyserSozeMC]

I'm expecting for an answer from theymos or anyone else from the staff.

People are waiting me to send them the coins I promised.

I don't want to get banned because I sent coins to people, nor I want those people get banned.

[stompix]

Well , I support this. I clearly do. Why?
Cause the alt section is a mess.

Theymos did something for the alts , he has allowed sub forums , even though it's bitcointalk not altcointalk.
And the result :?

From one huge mess 4 new huge messes.
Mining pools , giveaways , new coins , second launch announcements in the announcement thread.
Mining pools in all the subforums.
Lots of coins have two threads in both ann and in the main subforum.
Giveaways everywhere , and as far as I've seen most of them are scams used to spam the forum to attract people to that coin.

And we should not even talk about random newbies with 1 post that infiltrate the other forums with "buy xxx " "xx coin is the solution".

I know it seems like a harsh decision but some rules need to be enforced here.

He's earning money from that.

Why didn't they think about that when they ''allowed'' (rofl) alt-coins in the forum?

You know , you're making some assumption here.
I hope you're referring to traffic gained not to "%x , percentage of something" cause that might look like a bribery taking part.

Care to clear things up?
Also with an activity as big as mine (or should I say small as) you're pretty demanding.

[shogdite]

Think it's a good idea. I've been trying to research a few of the alt currencies and it's a nightmare sifting through all the giveaway threads.

[KeyserSozeMC]

Well , I support this. I clearly do. Why?
Cause the alt section is a mess.

Theymos did something for the alts , he has allowed sub forums , even though it's bitcointalk not altcointalk.
And the result :?

From one huge mess 4 new huge messes.
Mining pools , giveaways , new coins , second launch announcements in the announcement thread.
Mining pools in all the subforums.
Lots of coins have two threads in both ann and in the main subforum.
Giveaways everywhere , and as far as I've seen most of them are scams used to spam the forum to attract people to that coin.

And we should not even talk about random newbies with 1 post that infiltrate the other forums with "buy xxx " "xx coin is the solution".

I know it seems like a harsh decision but some rules need to be enforced here.

He's earning money from that.

Why didn't they think about that when they ''allowed'' (rofl) alt-coins in the forum?

You know , you're making some assumption here.
I hope you're referring to traffic gained not to "%x , percentage of something" cause that might look like a bribery taking part.

Care to clear things up?
Also with an activity as big as mine (or should I say small as) you're pretty demanding.

Of course I'm talking about traffic. What else could I be talking about?

I'm not demanding, I just want this forum get on its feet with alts. I love bct, I wouldn't damage it.

I do ''business'' on this forum. I'm interested to advertise myself here as well. I even offered my own money for a new HDD/SSD if they can't support a new section

[roundrobin]

Think it's a good idea. I've been trying to research a few of the alt currencies and it's a nightmare sifting through all the giveaway threads.

No. Moving giveaways to a new subforum is a good idea. Killing them is rejecting their promotion and marketing, and that's not a good idea.

[KeyserSozeMC]

Think it's a good idea. I've been trying to research a few of the alt currencies and it's a nightmare sifting through all the giveaway threads.

There's a ''search'' function. Use it : )

[roundrobin]

Another angle to consider for the profiteering part of the yay-voters here is that 99.9% of these altcoins are directed towards BTC-turnover and trade, some of which comes from direct $$$ put into BTC for acquiring another altcoin. Promoting altcoins promotes BTC. There's something fundamentally backwards about forbidding people to share resources.

[Dilapidated]

I think this is a very bad idea and I do not support it. I personally feel as though giveaways are very important to altcoins and deserve their own subforum. Please reconsider or at least let the community vote to decide the outcome.

Thank you

[shogdite]

Think it's a good idea. I've been trying to research a few of the alt currencies and it's a nightmare sifting through all the giveaway threads.

No. Moving giveaways to a new subforum is a good idea. Killing them is rejecting their promotion and marketing, and that's not a good idea.

There's a lot more to marketing than giveaways, the boards are too clogged with them. I wouldn't mind a separate subforum but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen any time soon.

[dogechode]

This is fucking retarded and the admins or posters that support it are stupid

The spam here is bad, but restricting it this way just shows how little you guys understand

1.) There are so many of these stupid threads that it is very hard to have a discussion on any non-spam-giveaway thread topic because the giveaway threads take up the whole page and people post in them every 5 seconds keeping them at the top.

2.) Many of the giveaways don't deliver what they promise.

3.) If it hasn't happened already, someone is BOUND to start using this as a platform to make a malware-infected wallet, do a "giveaway," and get thousands of suckers to download it just to get a few free coins.

At first I did a few giveaways and thought it was an interesting concept, but when I saw that crap that is going on now... like these tards demanding that posters vote them onto cryptsy or give them a referral, and all the ones where people didn't even actually get the giveaway funds... it has become a shit pit let's be frank.

Giveaway threads are not needed to market and promote a new currency and guess what - anyways we would be WAY BETTER OFF if they STOPPED RELEASING A NEW DAMN CRYPTOCURRENCY every day.

[CSM00]

Altcoin subforum has useful information. Altcoin subforum is heavily populated by giveaway threads, reducing usefulness of subforum to those without desire for $.00005 worth of NewAltCoin.

This.

Im here primarily for the altcoin section, but the giveaways for trivial amounts of today's NewAltCoin don't have much value and make it substantially harder to get to the useful posts in the AltCoin section.

For all the people who want the giveaways - have you noticed that its the same people on everyone?  And that those people will know about your coin anyway?  It's a preaching to the choir situation.  If someone sees a giveaway, they've very likely seem the announcement and know about your coin.

An [ANN]  thread really is all the promo needed on BitCoinTalk -- you'd  get more results putting your promo efforts just about anywhere else on the intertubes.

[shogdite]

Think it's a good idea. I've been trying to research a few of the alt currencies and it's a nightmare sifting through all the giveaway threads.

There's a ''search'' function. Use it : )

You're one of the worst spammers on here at the moment. Maybe they will set up a subforum, you could try sending theymos a donation

[KeyserSozeMC]

This is fucking retarded and the admins or posters that support it are stupid

The spam here is bad, but restricting it this way just shows how little you guys understand

1.) There are so many of these stupid threads that it is very hard to have a discussion on any non-spam-giveaway thread topic because the giveaway threads take up the whole page and people post in them every 5 seconds keeping them at the top.

Use search function. There's something called ''bookmark'' as well.

2.) Many of the giveaways don't deliver what they promise.

The fact that people do fake giveaways doesn't affect me at all. I always deliver.

3.) If it hasn't happened already, someone is BOUND to start using this as a platform to make a malware-infected wallet, do a "giveaway," and get thousands of suckers to download it just to get a few free coins.

I never advertise coins I haven't heard of. I'm always doing research before I start promoting something. Wouldn't try to infect anyone and lose my reputation in this forum.

At first I did a few giveaways and thought it was an interesting concept, but when I saw that crap that is going on now... like these tards demanding that posters vote them onto cryptsy or give them a referral, and all the ones where people didn't even actually get the giveaway funds... it has become a shit pit let's be frank.

Stop insulting people with such names. You're nothing better than those people who infect other users.

Giveaway threads are not needed to market and promote a new currency and guess what - anyways we would be WAY BETTER OFF if they STOPPED RELEASING A NEW DAMN CRYPTOCURRENCY every day.

You lost it here. I bet you never got Kinder Egg for free in the super markets when you were a kid. ( I DID! ha )
"STOPPED RELEASING A NEW DAMN CRYPTOCURRENCY every day.'' Oh, you've created so many coins in the past.
Oh, bad inglais, sorry.

[konfet]

+1 for giveaway subforum.

If you ban these posts, so you can lose many people that visit this forum for altcoins, lose the biggest cryptocoin community.
Stop being the world No. 1 cryptocoin forum, if you leave only bitcoin, because it's "only bitcoin talk", not any other sha256 (devcoin, no-no), or scrypt(litecoin, no-no), or quark or something else algorythm.
If you want to say that you only "bitcoin forum", than leave only bitcoin cryptocurrency, don't use double standarts please.
Nowdays it's the biggest forum of all cryptocurrencies, and all information about this focused in one place. And it's good.
Thing that you want to do, shatter this info on many sites. It's not good to open tens sites for news of giveaways, or games, or faucet

So we can think more:
1) Today you ban giveaways.
2) Tomorrow you ban discussion about altcoins and leave only announcement.
3) Day after tomorrow you ban all altcoins on forum ?
Think it's way down.

Also you can exclude altcoin subforum from recent posts list, don't think that it's hard. You must have programmers, that can do it easily.
If you do not have enough moderators to watch on new posts, you can take them more from community.
There many ways that can be done for the comfort of all us.
Dont understand why you don't discuss this step with big community earlier, but put us before a fact ?
Don't understand profits of this strange step.
I understand "reserved posts" ban, but not this.

[Brewins]

Altcoin subforum has useful information. Altcoin subforum is heavily populated by giveaway threads, reducing usefulness of subforum to those without desire for $.00005 worth of NewAltCoin.

This.

Im here primarily for the altcoin section, but the giveaways for trivial amounts of today's NewAltCoin don't have much value and make it substantially harder to get to the useful posts in the AltCoin section.

For all the people who want the giveaways - have you noticed that its the same people on everyone?  And that those people will know about your coin anyway?  It's a preaching to the choir situation.  If someone sees a giveaway, they've very likely seem the announcement and know about your coin.

An [ANN]  thread really is all the promo needed on BitCoinTalk -- you'd  get more results putting your promo efforts just about anywhere else on the intertubes.

+1

[BadBear]

Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?

No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam.

TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked.

[jalmari]

Couldn't you organize a poll and ask if people would like to have a subforum or totally get rid off the giveaways?

[KeyserSozeMC]

Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?

No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam.

TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked.

Stop being such a gangster.

''before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted'' <= Wont happen, ever. Capone.

It's staff's mistake, not people's mistake. They could make a new sub-forum AGES ago, instead of closing threads.

Most of the admins/mods are lazy, bored to move their little finger. That's what happens.


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Make a new section for giveaways.

[KrvnoZrnce]

Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?

No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam.

TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked.

I've seen places without spam... How is that possible? Oh.. I know.. They know how to deal with it without shutting down 70% of their traffic...

Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?

No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam.

TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked.

Stop being such a gangster.

''before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted'' <= Wont happen, ever. Capone.

It's staff's mistake, not people's mistake. They could make a new sub-forum AGES ago, instead of closing threads.

Most of the admins are lazy, bored to move their little finger. That's what happens.


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Make a new section for giveaways.

exactly what most of us are talking about... I know a couple of users on this forum which are only trolls and scammers, nothing good out of them comes out, and I know they were reported to moderators over and over again and that just fuels them more and more because they know moderators won't do anything about it so they come back as bigger jerks every f-in time...
Who cares anyway.. I don't need giveaways and I don't need this forum, but this is just stupid and owners/admins are only one to blame (I know it's not an easy job but it is a JOB and if you can't take it, stap away, somebody can)...