[ANN]ASICMiner Publicly Looking for Potential Customers/Partners for New Chips

[novello]

I wish they had specified their defition of high volume. It probably would have saved them a lot of PMS and emails, and given us an idea of the requirements for consideration.

I would hazard a guess and say 5 - 10,000. It really doesn't make sense to supply chips in the 10's or 100's, and if they did, it would be through a third party that is buying 1000's, i.e. a distributor, so it's extremely unlikely that you'll be able to buy 10 of these for $64 ($0.5 per gigahash) probably more like $200 ($1.5 per gigahash). That doesn't in any way make them bad value, quite the contrary, but I think that a lot of miners have expectations that they're going to be able to put together a rig for $0,5 per gigahash, and that's simply not going to happen.

Perhaps Asicminer could have worded their initial pitch slightly differently, but good on them for going against the herd and making the most of existing, cheap technologies. True Value Engineering.

[redmonski]

Don't know if this article in cybtc.com is related to ASICMiner's new product.

http://cybtc.com/article-655-1.html

[daddyfatsax]

Google translate is hilarious. "baked cat talk forum"... I had to stop after that.

Don't know if this article in cybtc.com is related to ASICMiner's new product.

http://cybtc.com/article-655-1.html

[Cheshyr]

I wish they had specified their definition of high volume. It probably would have saved them a lot of PMS and emails, and given us an idea of the requirements for consideration.

I would hazard a guess and say 5 - 10,000. It really doesn't make sense to supply chips in the 10's or 100's...

Perhaps Asicminer could have worded their initial pitch slightly differently, but good on them for going against the herd and making the most of existing, cheap technologies. True Value Engineering.

Honestly, standard reel sizes would still be fine.  Reel of 1500 (18PH) for $20k?  Sign me up.  It really leaves the middle-ground design teams in a state of paralysis...  Big might be too big, but small might be too small.  Anyway, hoping to hear something soon.

edit: re article and google translate.  Evidently, they can't decide how to cook the cat.  roast cat, baked cat, grilled cat...

[tntdgcr]

left an email 

[Flashman]

I'm hearing scuttlebutt* that a deal is in progress to supply a Chinese manufacturer.... so just wondering if anyone can point me to details, can't find anything.

I'm just eager to buy miners or at the least boards with AM's new chip.

*rumor

[minerpumpkin]

I'm hearing scuttlebutt* that a deal is in progress to supply a Chinese manufacturer.... so just wondering if anyone can point me to details, can't find anything.

I'm just eager to buy miners or at the least boards with AM's new chip.

*rumor

This one? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg5485359#msg5485359

[bitgtr]

I'm hearing scuttlebutt* that a deal is in progress to supply a Chinese manufacturer.... so just wondering if anyone can point me to details, can't find anything.

I'm just eager to buy miners or at the least boards with AM's new chip.

*rumor

This one? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg5485359#msg5485359

Thanks minerpumpkin. I wonder what us smaller manufacturers have to do to get on AM's radar...

[dairy100]

I'm hearing scuttlebutt* that a deal is in progress to supply a Chinese manufacturer.... so just wondering if anyone can point me to details, can't find anything.

I'm just eager to buy miners or at the least boards with AM's new chip.

*rumor

This one? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg5485359#msg5485359

Thanks minerpumpkin. I wonder what us smaller manufacturers have to do to get on AM's radar...

I think you have to do a song and dance

[bclcjunkie]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

[Teodor]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s
friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

And Bitmine also delivered A1 Coincraft chips so China is full of 1THs miners with even lower consumption that the one in the above link 

[jimmothy]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

[sbfree]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

and when do you predict these gen2 miners to be actually hashing???

[elasticband]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

they are not gen 2, just a under volted build of their current chip, more chips, less watts.

[elasticband]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

and when do you predict these gen2 miners to be actually hashing???

asicminer will be gen 3 not gen 2, gen 2 skipped production.

gen 3 will be close to 1TH 500w $2000

[kendog77]

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

Not if ASICMiner continues to overprice their mining hardware. Given ASICMiner's previous track record pricing hardware so miners have no chance of ROI unless they resell, why would you expect them to do anything differently with Gen3?

I doubt ASICMiner will be able to match Bitmain pricing.

[Flashman]

gen 3 will be close to 1TH 500w $2000

Better be, no way I'm paying more than $2 a Gh now and even that is looking highly short term.

[bclcjunkie]

aaand more competition... here comes avalon gen 3... http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/hardware/A3233/A3233Q48-140313-V01-EN.pdf

768 hash cores, 7 GH/s per chip, 0.75 watts per GH/s, on a 40nm full custom design, not as power efficient as they should be but still adds more pressure..

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

Not if ASICMiner continues to overprice their mining hardware. Given ASICMiner's previous track record pricing hardware so miners have no chance of ROI unless they resell, why would you expect them to do anything differently with Gen3?

I doubt ASICMiner will be able to match Bitmain pricing.

[jimmothy]

aaand more competition... here comes avalon gen 3... http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/hardware/A3233/A3233Q48-140313-V01-EN.pdf

768 hash cores, 7 GH/s per chip, 0.75 watts per GH/s, on a 40nm full custom design, not as power efficient as they should be but still adds more pressure..

in the meantime... bitmain keep delivering kick ass products... https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5 1th for just 3899 USD...Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s

friedcat needs to work harder for his shareholders this time... 

1w/gh is a bit late at this point. AM gen3 is going to put all antminers out of business.

I honestly expected more from bitmain gen2.

Not if ASICMiner continues to overprice their mining hardware. Given ASICMiner's previous track record pricing hardware so miners have no chance of ROI unless they resell, why would you expect them to do anything differently with Gen3?

I doubt ASICMiner will be able to match Bitmain pricing.

0.75/w is hardly competition. Unless these chips sell for dirt cheap I don't see how they can possibly compete with AM chips that are the same die/process size but with twice the hashrate and efficiency.

This all assumes they meet simulated specs.

[jimmothy]

well I hope we get some decent competition, I'd hate to see AM hogging the network

 

If knc 20nm is actually 40% more efficient than their 28nm they might be on par with asicminers efficiency but I doubt they can match the price with 20nm being so much more expensive.