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July 26, 2018, 06:01:46 AM
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From my point of view, we are in the third quarter of this year, and from this moment , the market seems to release, so it is normal to see the price going up at time like this. Even though whales might have certain impact on the market, I don't actually think they could fully manipulated the price

Definitely, there is whales impact on the market because most of the holder will always manipulate the market according to their benefit. It will be beneficial to people who are holding the coins in long term will always get most benefits from these when the price starts increasing.
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July 26, 2018, 06:15:45 AM
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yes of course the price on the exchange is all very easy to manipulate, if you have a lot of trading capital then you can control the rise and fall of the coin price.
Well about the price manipulation, I think there is manipulation but about the fully price manipulation I am not so sure because the price of the crypto cannot be fully manipulated. Think about the market factors as well. If there were fully manipulation of the price, we would have no fluctuation in the factors like demand in the changing market condition.

Furthermore, the quantity of coins the whale use to affect the market is far low than the quantity of coins held by the remaining users so in one way the effect of manipulation could be subsided if the rest of the users play the game well.
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July 26, 2018, 06:54:30 AM
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Their is no doubt that in the cryptocurrency , prices are manipulated by the whales and the big guys that have a lot of funds but for the exchange registrations, its not related to price manipulation as they couldn't keep up with the registrations.
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July 26, 2018, 07:17:05 AM
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Sometimes most of the people who are holding the coins will manipulate the price but it won't stay much longer there. Soon the price will dump faster and makes the investors lose their money. Don't fall for pump and dump, it will make you lose money when there are manipulations.
So in other words do you mean to say that market forces surpass the effect that is caused by the people who manipulate the prices? Actually the ratio of the whales manipulating the price of crypto in market is far below the number of users and the consumer behavior in market and investor’s behavior in the crypto market can overcome the effect caused by the manipulation of prices if there had been more knowledge about the crypto among the users. Following a good strategy plan helps overcome abrupt fluctuation in the market.
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July 26, 2018, 09:49:18 AM
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I won't claim its 100% manipulated, But yes its being manipulated by whales and some billionaires. I am sure of it 100%.
Even this big and longest bear run is another example of such behavior and manipulation from whales and all other big investors. Actually they can’t control the bitcoin and their transactions but yes they have got authority to control the market of this bitcoin. And they are classically handling it for so long time. So don’t just worry, things might gets fine.
The market conditions say that the Bitcoin has a bad time for those who have invested and are now in loss as the market is down by price currently. The solution to make conditions favorable is to invest more and more so that the buying rate increases and the price activates to follow the increase trend. Market manipulation is important otherwise situations will get more worst for those who have coins and are now in loss.
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July 26, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.


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July 27, 2018, 01:50:34 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
What has happened since January 2018 are redistributing of bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to the new investors because the old holders are selling off there position and new investors are buying them at cheap price.  Manipulatiors are they  in every face of business endeavour and I don't think they control the market hundred percent.




I disagree completely, nothing like that is happening at all, what we are seeing is the old holders getting even stronger, all of those new investors that entered the market at the end of the year were completely slaughtered by the crash in the market while the holders are now buying their coins for a discounted price, after all it seems very unlikely that a bunch of new investors outsmarted the holders in their own game.
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July 27, 2018, 02:20:21 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
What has happened since January 2018 are redistributing of bitcoin and others cryptocurrencies to the new investors because the old holders are selling off there position and new investors are buying them at cheap price.  Manipulatiors are they  in every face of business endeavour and I don't think they control the market hundred percent.




I disagree completely, nothing like that is happening at all, what we are seeing is the old holders getting even stronger, all of those new investors that entered the market at the end of the year were completely slaughtered by the crash in the market while the holders are now buying their coins for a discounted price, after all it seems very unlikely that a bunch of new investors outsmarted the holders in their own game.
I believe you misquote what Arpon said cause he/she was referring to old holders that sell off their holding during the last ATH and new investors who bought during the last ATH sold their holding at lost price to the old holder. Which is why he/she mention 'redistributing of bitcoin'.

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July 27, 2018, 02:58:32 AM
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Sometimes most of the people who are holding the coins will manipulate the price but it won't stay much longer there. Soon the price will dump faster and makes the investors lose their money. Don't fall for pump and dump, it will make you lose money when there are manipulations.
So in other words do you mean to say that market forces surpass the effect that is caused by the people who manipulate the prices? Actually the ratio of the whales manipulating the price of crypto in market is far below the number of users and the consumer behavior in market and investor’s behavior in the crypto market can overcome the effect caused by the manipulation of prices if there had been more knowledge about the crypto among the users. Following a good strategy plan helps overcome abrupt fluctuation in the market.

I guess the "whales" have enough funds to shake the crypto exchange markets significantly. If the price will fall below the support levels, the stop-loss orders will be triggered and the price of crypro currency will fall even deeper. Then people will be very nervous and probably start to panic sell. So the "whales" controlling some mass media can ignite a strong volatility on the crypto exchange markets. My answer is yes, the price is almost fully manipulated by the large investors.
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July 31, 2018, 05:20:52 AM
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The price of every coins is maniulated in some sence. Retain traders can move markets with low liquidity for a short period of time, but it's a market maker who orchestrates the pumps.
For the manipulation of price in favorable direction we need further investment in the current market once the buying rate increases then we will have a market of high value. It would be better if we see this improvement in the upcoming days because we have a lot of coins and now it needs a high market to enrich us with huge profit for which we are struggling here.

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July 31, 2018, 05:24:04 AM
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im sure there is too many speculator but i believe it is impossible to controle %100 because there is too many factor and crypto space is pretty huge .
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July 31, 2018, 07:20:29 AM
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The prices are not manipulated but sometimes they are, and you must be smart.
Sometimes they are but yeah sometimes they are just straight. People have got habit to often blame whales and other big investors for any single or little drop in price market. However, this isn’t right thing. You are always be smart and keeping things according to your plan. This plan must consider all the exceptions and alterations that can happen unfortunately.

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July 31, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
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I'm hesitant to know how. But if manipulated, within the first six months of 2018 will never grow. So it can not be called manipulative
Manipulation isn't  a way to totally control the entire market but could affect prices. Some crypto whales trying to catch newly crypto adopters which isn't have huge knowledge on crypto investment  and mentally they never know how trading fields work.  Isn't just of today's practices, manipulation is happen already since from the start but can't we feel it.
I do believe that price is manipulated in the market and this is not the pure price that results from the market forces but I am not very sure about the fully manipulation of the prices because in the market, the market forces also control the charts and affect the price. Also the influence of the Whales on the price can be controlled by the consumer behavior towards the disturbance that results form the activity of Whales.
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July 31, 2018, 09:52:29 AM
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I don't think it's was manipulated,  it's just the normal demand and supply of it
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July 31, 2018, 10:03:19 AM
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Big whales can manipulate the price of Bitcoin, no doubt. But there are other factors as well IMO, which caused the dump this year.

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I personally do not think, that closing the registrations were part of the market manipulation, it was simply too many new candidates, which they could not handle.

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August 01, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
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The market of crypto-currency is not as large as many people can imagine. At the moment, the Market Cap is only $ 270,556,214,626. Therefore, whales with their billions are very easy to manipulate the price. They do this through news, fluctuations in prices and their influence on certain exchanges. But this is reality. In our world, control is exercised by those who have more money.

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August 01, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
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Sometimes most of the people who are holding the coins will manipulate the price but it won't stay much longer there. Soon the price will dump faster and makes the investors lose their money. Don't fall for pump and dump, it will make you lose money when there are manipulations.
So in other words do you mean to say that market forces surpass the effect that is caused by the people who manipulate the prices? Actually the ratio of the whales manipulating the price of crypto in market is far below the number of users and the consumer behavior in market and investor’s behavior in the crypto market can overcome the effect caused by the manipulation of prices if there had been more knowledge about the crypto among the users. Following a good strategy plan helps overcome abrupt fluctuation in the market.

I guess the "whales" have enough funds to shake the crypto exchange markets significantly. If the price will fall below the support levels, the stop-loss orders will be triggered and the price of crypro currency will fall even deeper. Then people will be very nervous and probably start to panic sell. So the "whales" controlling some mass media can ignite a strong volatility on the crypto exchange markets. My answer is yes, the price is almost fully manipulated by the large investors.
Big investors or just simply the whales would really made such impact on the market price if they would decide up to a same path or motive. They can really head up into those points where they do able to snap out stoploss of retail traders which can definitely create a panic. When the market dumps too much then they would took that opportunity to purchase very cheap coins and tend to rise up the market once again or being hyped up.

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August 01, 2018, 09:44:24 PM
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I think crypto market is not fully manipulated because there's so many circumstances that's why crypto market experience of down trend. But still manipulation will not gone in any investment or trading. Sometimes the cause of always changing the price is some bad news that may affect in the market.

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August 01, 2018, 09:56:31 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I believe that you can see that the crypto market with very low capitalization is only over $ 200 billion and is not controlled by any country, so the bitcoin and altcoin prices are being manipulated. is very easy to understand. So this is a very high risk market, you should only short-term investment and trading day, should not long-term investment.
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