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June 22, 2021, 12:52:17 PM
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that might be because not everyone is using it as a means for research - some are specifically using it to target addresses in the hope/attempt to steal the funds.
Yes exactly! What's the point in research?
What will research give me? I never had bitcoins, when I had the opportunity to buy BTC for 1-100$, I did not know about it, I found out about bitcoins only in 2017, when video cards were becoming more expensive.
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June 22, 2021, 04:07:57 PM
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that might be because not everyone is using it as a means for research - some are specifically using it to target addresses in the hope/attempt to steal the funds.
Yes exactly! What's the point in research?
What will research give me? I never had bitcoins, when I had the opportunity to buy BTC for 1-100$, I did not know about it, I found out about bitcoins only in 2017, when video cards were becoming more expensive.

If that's what you're trying to do, then you are wasting your time trying to find a match in such a large keyspace.

GPUs can only search up to around 2^40 keyspace in a reasonable time (depending on how many GPUs and the kind you use, it could be even less) while bitcoin private keys exist in 2^256 keyspace. That means that unless someone deliberately posts a small range of the private key you can search in, it will take much, much longer than the human lifetime to exhaust bitcoin's entire keyspace to find some private keys.

Brute forcing has always been this hard, it doesn't become difficult as bitcoin's price goes up (and for the same reason, bitcoin GPU mining has been unprofitable since 2013 or so).

Uninitiated crackers will actually spend more on the hardware itself than the potential reward if they are not careful to buy bargain hardware, not to mention electricity bills. Privkey cracking is about to become a specialized industry, like bitcoin mining.

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June 22, 2021, 04:47:17 PM
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that might be because not everyone is using it as a means for research - some are specifically using it to target addresses in the hope/attempt to steal the funds.
Yes exactly! What's the point in research?
What will research give me? I never had bitcoins, when I had the opportunity to buy BTC for 1-100$, I did not know about it, I found out about bitcoins only in 2017, when video cards were becoming more expensive.

If that's what you're trying to do, then you are wasting your time trying to find a match in such a large keyspace.

GPUs can only search up to around 2^40 keyspace in a reasonable time (depending on how many GPUs and the kind you use, it could be even less) while bitcoin private keys exist in 2^256 keyspace. That means that unless someone deliberately posts a small range of the private key you can search in, it will take much, much longer than the human lifetime to exhaust bitcoin's entire keyspace to find some private keys.

Brute forcing has always been this hard, it doesn't become difficult as bitcoin's price goes up (and for the same reason, bitcoin GPU mining has been unprofitable since 2013 or so).

Uninitiated crackers will actually spend more on the hardware itself than the potential reward if they are not careful to buy bargain hardware, not to mention electricity bills. Privkey cracking is about to become a specialized industry, like bitcoin mining.

I agree - doesnt stop some of them from trying.

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Last edit: June 22, 2021, 08:26:05 PM by yoyodapro
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that might be because not everyone is using it as a means for research - some are specifically using it to target addresses in the hope/attempt to steal the funds.
Yes exactly! What's the point in research?
What will research give me? I never had bitcoins, when I had the opportunity to buy BTC for 1-100$, I did not know about it, I found out about bitcoins only in 2017, when video cards were becoming more expensive.

If that's what you're trying to do, then you are wasting your time trying to find a match in such a large keyspace.

GPUs can only search up to around 2^40 keyspace in a reasonable time (depending on how many GPUs and the kind you use, it could be even less) while bitcoin private keys exist in 2^256 keyspace. That means that unless someone deliberately posts a small range of the private key you can search in, it will take much, much longer than the human lifetime to exhaust bitcoin's entire keyspace to find some private keys.

Brute forcing has always been this hard, it doesn't become difficult as bitcoin's price goes up (and for the same reason, bitcoin GPU mining has been unprofitable since 2013 or so).

Uninitiated crackers will actually spend more on the hardware itself than the potential reward if they are not careful to buy bargain hardware, not to mention electricity bills. Privkey cracking is about to become a specialized industry, like bitcoin mining.

I agree - doesnt stop some of them from trying.


I am currently able to process 2^54.75 Keys/second using a program I've been writing that combines the best of Bitcrack with BSGS using GPU's, at the moment im only capable of getting these speeds while searching public keys, while searching public address compressed Im still getting about 2^38.127 Keys/second. I will be discussing this program more and maybe releasing a copy for public use after I find the 64 address!

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June 23, 2021, 04:13:48 AM
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that might be because not everyone is using it as a means for research - some are specifically using it to target addresses in the hope/attempt to steal the funds.
Yes exactly! What's the point in research?
What will research give me? I never had bitcoins, when I had the opportunity to buy BTC for 1-100$, I did not know about it, I found out about bitcoins only in 2017, when video cards were becoming more expensive.

If that's what you're trying to do, then you are wasting your time trying to find a match in such a large keyspace.

GPUs can only search up to around 2^40 keyspace in a reasonable time (depending on how many GPUs and the kind you use, it could be even less) while bitcoin private keys exist in 2^256 keyspace. That means that unless someone deliberately posts a small range of the private key you can search in, it will take much, much longer than the human lifetime to exhaust bitcoin's entire keyspace to find some private keys.

Brute forcing has always been this hard, it doesn't become difficult as bitcoin's price goes up (and for the same reason, bitcoin GPU mining has been unprofitable since 2013 or so).

Uninitiated crackers will actually spend more on the hardware itself than the potential reward if they are not careful to buy bargain hardware, not to mention electricity bills. Privkey cracking is about to become a specialized industry, like bitcoin mining.

I agree - doesnt stop some of them from trying.


I am currently able to process 2^54.75 Keys/second using a program I've been writing that combines the best of Bitcrack with BSGS using GPU's, at the moment im only capable of getting these speeds while searching public keys, while searching public address compressed Im still getting about 2^38.127 Keys/second. I will be discussing this program more and maybe releasing a copy for public use after I find the 64 address!
I look forward to hearing about the combined bitcrack and bsgs. Maybe post it in project development section to create its own thread.
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July 07, 2021, 02:35:54 PM
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Friends! Why are you all doing hopeless brute-force? Does anyone know other algorithms? Maybe -lenstra_elliptic_curve_method, quadratic_sieve?
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July 07, 2021, 06:03:40 PM
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Friends! Why are you all doing hopeless brute-force? Does anyone know other algorithms? Maybe -lenstra_elliptic_curve_method, quadratic_sieve?

Those are both integer factorization algorithms so won't work against secp256k1 elliptic curves. Pollard Rho, Pohlig-Hellman (though slower than the rest), distinguished points and BSGS are the way to go.

This paper rounds up most of the known algorithms: https://math.mit.edu/classes/18.783/2017/LectureNotes10.pdf

There don't appear to by any public, more recent & novel methods for calculating descrete log on Google Scholar.

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Read carefully...
https://depot.ceon.pl/bitstream/handle/123456789/16676/Lenstra%27s%20Factorization%20Algorithm.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
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July 09, 2021, 11:22:38 PM
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Great job, so looks like these factoring methods really were designed to work on privkey factors as well. So it's a repeated Pollard's rho - 1 in a loop, followed by that algorithm on the right (the curve membership test) if that fails I guess? I suspect the elliptic curve used in the example will also have to be changed to y^2 - x^3 - (or maybe +) 7, right? Since secp256k1 doesn't have the "ax" factor, I'm not sure where "a" is going to be placed to make the algorithm usable.

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July 13, 2021, 06:00:42 PM
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The very last paragraph is interesting.
 http://cr.yp.to/bib/1987/lenstra-fiec.pdf
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July 14, 2021, 01:03:28 AM
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The very last paragraph is interesting.
 http://cr.yp.to/bib/1987/lenstra-fiec.pdf

So is section (1.3)

Finally, something explains in clear terms what an isomorphism is.

(1.3) Isomorphisms and automorphisms. Let E = Ea,b and E'a',b' be elliptic curves over K. An isomorphism E → E' (over K) is defined to be an element u ∈ K* for which a' = u4a and b' = u6b.

So taking this in secp256k1's perspective, a=0 and b=7. So any curve that manipulates b is potentially an isomorphism of secp256k1 since a=0 implies any curve can satisfy the corresponding relation above.

So this means, b=26*7, 36*7, 46*7 ... are all isomorphisms which also means there's an infinite number of secp256k1 isomorphisms we can calculate (of course that would not be efficient though) and we're not stuck with just the six from VanitySearch.

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nice edit  Grin (devtools / console ?)

maybe in a few days... who knows  Roll Eyes

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--keyspace D461A00000000000:D461EFFFFFFFFFFF Done no result at all


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16jY7qLJw2JY2E6dvVyNJwM47abmAnp9mf  D461DE71182A7595
16jY7qLJ8X7fftTDeYbt4fhypkU8nYvNeZ  D461DEA07EC5DF8F
16jY7qLJZhPdcZCmymbkpBbjPAgMbcgPwf  D461DF59533BFE8B
16jY7qLJ6XXF7vhwBeJeGGVcxeSnwHhuxE  D461E0F8636D33CD
16jY7qLJspYkKcvhBEmVZxA7vB4NpvwmDW  D461E474968FBC8E
16jY7qLJmF8KtiEkWj9wc4XupCagn1yxeB  D461E52E98DD447E
16jY7qLJMcbfmz5Vm3KHh4vGLBrhFi5kbQ  D461E5ED75394E7B
16jY7qLJRfXaDBQjzQjFvCQMmWD6DdqHa6  D461E5FF8F7F0503
16jY7qLJKbCERZq4fNdpUoML3WDXj9ya76  D461E644936B6CC6

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July 15, 2021, 06:26:44 PM
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Will we ever see this? Grin Grin

Were you get this SCAM pic ? How mach you was pay to scam seller what send you this pic ?  https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/16jY7qLJnxb7CHZyqBP8qca9d51gAjyXQN

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He changed the numbers himself using Chrome DevTools (inspect element).

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He changed the numbers himself using Chrome DevTools (inspect element).

This is now a popular method of many scammers provide fake pic. bee careful !!!

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July 17, 2021, 05:01:20 PM
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He changed the numbers himself using Chrome DevTools (inspect element).

This is now a popular method of many scammers provide fake pic. bee careful !!!

bee careful !!!

Lolllll Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
It was just a joke. Maybe you do not know where you are, and which people you are telling to be careful, this is a community of programmers, where such small tricks are just taken for fun. So don't prove your stupidity with these childish talks.

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July 17, 2021, 10:48:32 PM
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He changed the numbers himself using Chrome DevTools (inspect element).

This is now a popular method of many scammers provide fake pic. bee careful !!!

bee careful !!!

Lolllll Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
It was just a joke. Maybe you do not know where you are, and which people you are telling to be careful, this is a community of programmers, where such small tricks are just taken for fun. So don't prove your stupidity with these childish talks.
Sometimes people read to quickly or not enough. In your original post, I read the words "Will we ever see this...." the keyword being "Will" so I took as you just asking a question if one will ever find #64's key, nothing scammy, just a question.

I'd say probably...or more than likely, one day; either when enough people join pool/concentrate all their firepower in one place, or equipment or software becomes faster.
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How many mkeys can 3070,3080,3090 do now with one adress and -c mode? cuda or opecl only?
I have 2080ti and ~1500mkeys cuda mode. 1080ti is only 700Mkeys? Tesla v100 is same that 2080ti?
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