[ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland

[dinobotta]

How much does education cost in Iceland?

Education is free in iceland

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[dinobotta]

Your explanation would also imply the hypothetic whale you talk about would have been extremely lucky to buy these exact amounts from these different wallets and nothing else. It's not possible.

This is not true. The trades that happened on exchange have nothing to do with the amounts in the transaction. That's just the cryptsy wallet... everything is mixed there. cryptsy auroracoind just looks for 100k AUR worth of unspent outputs when the whale withdraws.

if that was the case it would imply 90 people or more deposited in a row to their cryptsy wallets without anyone depositing other things inbetween. But the theory does not even need to be discussed anymore in the light of ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV

I looked at ~25 blocks in a row from around the time manually and >95% of transaction (>100 tx) were of amount 318 (12.5 coinbase excluded). It's not implausible.

only take your time to look at the incoming transactions to this wallet

ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV

I'm not ruling out it's baldur abusing his power, but it could be a big whale accumulating. The incoming transactions you point would be withdraws from the exchange (most likely cryptsy). As you said: the blockchain doesn't look 'natural'. That's because it isn't. Noone is using it for much of anything else than claiming airdrops, depositing and withdrawing from exchanges. Of course it looks like it looks.

I'm tempted to do address clustering to try to (dis-)prove the inputs you point to are coming from cryptsy, but it's a lot of work for me...

keeping an open mind...

Perhaps this whale is the person who scammed some Icelandic people with a fake Facebook game, which is the result of Facebook authentication was closed down on http://claim.auroracoin.org/?

[molecular]

can you stop YELLING, please?

here's a whole bunch of exceptions:

http://explorer.auroracoin.eu/tx/43d0d9c1943a6f20d4a231d177593120baa7d9bd61ae0278dadcbcbe4f413e3c#o0

all mined coins it looks like. This tx outputs to ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV, so it's one of the inputs you claim in huge red letters are purely airdrop coins, which is wrong.

sure, so there is some mined ones - didn't check every single input of course. Doesn't help either interpretation since anyone can mine coins.

Proving things beyond doubt from blockchains alone will be hard though because there can always be doubts constructed. If you want to stick to the lucky whale theory, fine with me aswell. I don't buy that though.

I think it's up to the people to decide for themselves if an incredibly lucky whale was buying 575k coins at exchange (all of them from airdrops directly, only few coins mined but no coins that have been transacted on the chain before between people)
Or the much more likely answer for people who are not biased from holding bags:
Balduro, who is hiding himself and does an unsupervised airdrop is giving coins to himself like everyone would in his situation

Wether people want to buy into a coin with an unaccounted for premine of 50% where there are clear indicators of laundering that for private gain or not will ultimately be up to everyone themselves.

Sorry for yelling. What i hate is corruption and people biased from bagholding is exactly that. Maybe that's why i tend to flip a bit.
I think i'll be watching the discussion from here for a bit while looking around the chain some more. Doubts can always be constructed of course.

I can only say caveate emptor

facts are:

-balduro is as gone as he can be (probably hiding in a cave in the mountains with his laptop)
-the airdrop/premine is not accounted for in the slightest way

Your yelling is excused (I get emotional too from time to time, especially when I suspect people misusing their power to enrich themselves) and I value your your input.

You are right: everyone is biased by his portfolio and it can be extremely hard to accept facts that mean ones position is unprofitable or one has helped a criminal or things like that (see the pirateat40 fiasko for example).

I guess we'll just have to live with the uncertainty for a couple of months. Greatest danger is balduro not burning the remaining premine. Until then, investing in AUR is a gamble with extreme risk (and extreme potential reward). It is anyway because we don't know wether it'll work at all. Everybody has to decide on his own what he does and wether he can live with the potential consequences.

Again: thanks for your input, I'll try to keep an open mind and I'm pondering more intensive blockchain analysis (don't really have the time, though)... I know, it's hard to prove stuff conclusively, but more data would indeed be good.

I'll be digging and keep you posted about new finds.

yes please. in normal font

[BallOOner]

any estimates on how much dev was able to profit from this scam?

hard to say. I think the scam is still in the making and the plan is to dump that premine on much higher marketcap at a later date.

dev was last seen in May. I doubt he still plans to scam some more. There will never be such a hight price as it was when aurora coin was the first of its kind

[venlo]

Does anyone know the story behind baldurs name?

Baldur is the name of one on the nordic gods. He was the son of Ódin and his wife Frigg. Baldur was the most beloved of the gods and was killed by Loki because of jealousy.

people naming themselves after gods tend to have narcissistic personality disorder. A very commen disorder people in crypto have.
aka psychopaths and sociopaths

These people tend to be functional, produce sometimes very good work but in the end fuck it up because they think they can fool the world and they suffer greatly from their dilusions of grandeur but can't see it in themselves.

[mattakazulu]

How much does education cost in Iceland?

Education is free in iceland

Even university?

[molecular]

Let's see if claims pick up in the afternoon.

yes, we'll be watching

they picked up (22 in newest slot 12:00-16:00). for comparison: same slot yesterday had 19 claims.

so: no sharp dropoff.

[forlackofabettername]

Let's see if claims pick up in the afternoon.

yes, we'll be watching

they picked up (22 in newest slot 12:00-16:00). for comparison: same slot yesterday had 19 claims.

so: no sharp dropoff.

let's watch where they go.
I can tell you already where most of them will end up. It'll be here:
AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g

same adress claimed 20k in airdrops yesterday which should be around 80% to 95% of claims of that day

watching now. Thanks for excusing my unorthodox behaviour    Sometimes it's needed.


oh look! He claimed 9 airdrops already to that adress.  

So what now? More prove need it's rigged?

Watch 'em as they roll in:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/address.dws?AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g.htm


bookmark every airdrop claim to another adress (with nothing in it or only other airdrops) - they will all meet each other in a bigger wallet later. I can predict this shit. No joke.  

A very predictable airdrop is this.

Interesting how nobody claims all the time for hours and then 9 claims in one block.

I do not have the slightest doubt this airdrop is as rigged as a game of poker with some pirates

[dinobotta]

How much does education cost in Iceland?

Education is free in iceland

Even university?

Yes.

[forlackofabettername]

and three more.

All night long not a single claim and now suddenly dozens (but mainly to AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g exactly how predicted)

The other airdrops will meet later in another bigger adress.

So here you go. Who is claiming this now?
Is it fully automated with a timer set according to iceland time? Balduro probably lies on the jamaican beach on doesn't give a shit because fully automated.

If this shit is actually predictable who is right then?

[venlo]

Watch 'em as they roll in:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/address.dws?AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g.htm

muhaha
he's actually right.

Keep buying these coins, you are all gamed hardcore  

In plain sight! In front of everyones eyes he launders the premine!

And everyone is in denial. I can't stop laughing.

the coins rolling into that wallet as we speak.

[forlackofabettername]

i recommend you watch every single block for airdrops now.

Half of the claims will go to AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g

the other half will go to these smaller adresses with anly other airdrops in them and no other traffic and will be drawn together later to a few superordinate adresses (within a few days)

likely 95% to 98% of the airdrop  today will in 5 days have ended up in less than 4 wallets (wallets with only premine in them).

So what more prove?

[balu2]

i recommend you watch every single block for airdrops now.

Half of the claims will go to AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g

the other half will go to these smaller adresses with anly other airdrops in them and no other traffic and will be drawn together later to a few superordinate adresses (within a few days)

likely 95% to 98% of the airdrop  today will in 5 days have ended up in less than 4 wallets (wallets with only premine in them).

So what more prove?

these other smaller adresses look fabricated aswell. I think there were at least 5 doubleclaims to smaller adresses now and 10 or more claims to the big one. Wow. It's completely riged.  

[BitcoinNational]

and three more.

All night long not a single claim and now suddenly dozens (but mainly to AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g exactly how predicted)

The other airdrops will meet later in another bigger adress.

So here you go. Who is claiming this now?
Is it fully automated with a timer set according to iceland time? Balduro probably lies on the jamaican beach on doesn't give a shit because fully automated.

If this shit is actually predictable who is right then?

fkin A 8o

[rocanonz]

The name chosen by the creator of auroracoin. Its a pseudonym so where does it come from?

The full pseudonym it's coming from Poetic Edda. A collection of Old Norse poems primarily preserved in the Icelandic mediaeval manuscript Codex Regius and is composed of three norse gods : Baldur Friggjar Óðinsson

Baludur: god of light and purity; the kindest of all nordic gods.
Friggjar (Frigg): goddess associated with foreknowledge and wisdom.
Óðinsson: (Odin); the All-Father of Nordic gods and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also magic and poetry.

The rune SYMBOL 𐌅 (Fé) used for auroracoin means WEALTH.

Every rune has a poem:
WEALTH is a source of discord amongst kin
and fire of the sea
and path of the serpent.

Definitely the DEV knew something about the skies

[balu2]

it is 4:15 pm in Iceland now. So icelanders do not claim all night and all morning a single airdrop but suddenly at 1 pm they all claim dozens of airdrops (mostly to the same adress actually)?

What a BS. Gotta be some fool to believe this.  

look at this one too:
AXuwBHwM44NZ2cuYqB3a3hWk8XVC4zo4n2

that one is getting premine from all over the place - 80k so far

i think it's pretty epic to watch this as it happens. This is better than television. 

[rix5]

b-b-b-b-but i thought Balduro was Jesus coming to safe us from the evil banks with free money raining from the sky  


... no, seriously people: who's going to tell the icelands at facebook they were fooled? Who's going to burst their aurora-bubble-pipedream?

You think this is bad? I think we were lucky to have discovered this before it would have been too late!  

Leave a single man unattended with a 50% premine to distribute to a nation is sure the most smart idea i have ever heard.  

and then there was this thread in march:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=545475.0

this would be funny if it wasn't sad

Quote BCX in 29th march 2014:

"After digging deeper into the coin the only issue I had with AUR was the egregiously blatant potential for the development team to launder the premine for profit using the people of Iceland as mechanism.  To further this was the instant rejection by the founder to show any transparency or legitimacy into the Air Drop process with more than a month lead time pre-Air Drop. That was and still is the issue. "



what baffles me is how stupid someone can be to attempt to launder a premine like this on a public ledger. But what baffles me even more is how gullible and corrupt people on here are.

[rix5]

so this guy -> AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g
managed to get the passport of 120 people?

How many friends do you have who would give you their passport to put their data in some random website on the net?

Also this BS what i have heard of someone walking in bars asking for people to help out. As if people would give a stranger their national ID-card for not even 10$.  

Look at yourself what a bullshit you are talking. Keep defending the scam, you are looking good!

[forlackofabettername]

this received couple of airdrops today:
ALTDfdRoDeAcczUgkG7cbpFZkHN74VfE3d

sends it on to AXuwBHwM44NZ2cuYqB3a3hWk8XVC4zo4n2

i think i have not seen a single legitimate claim of an airdrop today. Everything goes to the same 10 to 15 adresses of which 13 send on to the other two.

all airdrops of today more or less are linked to

AXuwBHwM44NZ2cuYqB3a3hWk8XVC4zo4n2

and

AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g

the wallets receiving premine today and not linked to these two adresses yet, will be linked to them within 72 hours.

these two adresses claim airdrops and receive same time airdrops from other adresses which claim on the same blocks even. So pretty much every claim of an airdrop you saw yesterday and today (and will keep seeing) will end up in one of the two adresses above.


Auroracoin airdrop is predictable. This is a huge bust.

[forlackofabettername]

the two adresses shown above link even to each other:

txid:
26b7626bbbbdcee4d60af6d5521bd4bfc4778c8dc708ea4e151d1baab525bbf0

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/tx.dws?308535.htm


this is it. It's done.